Leeson 54 Posted June 2, 2020 17 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: My MO is to also call clowns clown. Have a good one. Your MO is to double down on your MO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,515 Posted June 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Leeson said: Okay, tough guy. Where have I defended any looting, violence or vandalism. You are defending the violent actions of the police and national guard. A deaf person would have come to the same conclusion watching things unfold yesterday. You seem to have a hard time understanding that 90% of the people protesting are doing so peacefully. But, you want to concentrate on the 10%. Throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Which allows you to ignore the problem and justify attacks. Quit saying peaceful protesters are tearing apart neighborhoods. It's the same as saying all black people are thieves. It's lazy and it's why I call you a racist. Something to keep in mind, there haven't been any deaths to the general public (non protesters) due to these protests. There have been a handful of deaths to protesters being shot (Omaha, Louisville) and there have been law enforcement officers that have died. Those are terrible deaths. My point is, with all the fires being lit, odds are some occupied building would have gone up in flames. But, it hasn't. If ALL the protesters are causing damage, more innocent people would be caught in the crossfire. It's happening, but it's being perpetrated by the police on peaceful protesters and even members of the press (who are also protected by the Constitution). Just want to make sure you have a basement bunker available in case things get too scary for you. So here in this post, you call me scared blah blah. I, in return, point out that you are a clown. Sorry my mean word hurt you, but you know, pot/kettle. Stfu. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,515 Posted June 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, drobeski said: Oh boy. Newbie can’t even get off his ass and do that for the cause. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonS 3,292 Posted June 2, 2020 Absolutely heartbreaking.... Rioters in Seattle are still in jail because threats against the court means they can't have their first appearance before a judge. Bummer. https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/crime/king-county-superior-court-shutters-courthouses-due-to-credible-threats-of-violence/ Dozens of people arrested Saturday for their alleged involvement in rioting and the looting of businesses in downtown Seattle were forced to forgo their first appearances before a judge Monday and so remain jailed due to an emergency closure of the county’s courthouses. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leeson 54 Posted June 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said: So here in this post, you call me scared blah blah. I, in return, point out that you are a clown. Sorry my mean word hurt you, but you know, pot/kettle. Stfu. 5 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Why don’t you just stfu and put on the news without the sound? If your neighborhood was being torn apart I don’t think you’d be playing all high and mighty about amendments and peaceful protesters. Not for a second. I was responding to your concerns. You made it sound like you were in a neighborhood being torn apart. Just looking out for your safety. You're welcome. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leeson 54 Posted June 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Oh boy. Newbie can’t even get off his ass and do that for the cause. Which one of those girls is you? I told you, I'm still hiding from the kung flu. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,515 Posted June 2, 2020 6 minutes ago, Leeson said: I was responding to your concerns. You made it sound like you were in a neighborhood being torn apart. Just looking out for your safety. You're welcome. Nah, you’re just being called out for being a lil whiney bich. And clown. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted June 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Oh boy. Newbie can’t even get off his ass and do that for the cause. That crowd is full of newbies Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leeson 54 Posted June 2, 2020 17 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Nah, you’re just being called out for being a lil whiney bich. And clown. Go hide in your basement. You're the one that's scared of the protesters. Probably because you're a middle aged white guy. Probably upset that you can't have dinner at your favorite restaurant. Even though it's finally opened back up after the Covid shutdown. You poor thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,515 Posted June 2, 2020 Just now, Leeson said: Go hide in your basement. You're the one that's scared of the protesters. Probably because you're a middle aged white guy. Probably upset that you can't have dinner at your favorite restaurant. Even though it's finally opened back up after the Covid shutdown. You poor thing. Ha. I was fighting rioters before you were born , child. Go play a video game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leeson 54 Posted June 2, 2020 23 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Ha. I was fighting rioters before you were born , child. Go play a video game. You don't know shiit. I'm closer to my casket than I am to my crib. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted June 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, Leeson said: You don't know shiit. I'm closer to my casket than I am to my crib. I wouldn't tell people that, we just thought you were young and dumb. Now we know its just the latter. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,934 Posted June 2, 2020 2 hours ago, drobeski said: This is now a cult. When they kill themselves the color of the coolaid will be purple. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leeson 54 Posted June 3, 2020 14 minutes ago, KSB2424 said: I wouldn't tell people that, we just thought you were young and dumb. Now we know its just the latter. I really don't care what any of you think of me. I'd rather you think I'm wrong and dumb. It let's me know I'm not like you. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,322 Posted June 3, 2020 6 hours ago, Leeson said: My peaceful protesters? Why are they mine and not ours? And who told you that the peaceful protesters set the church on fire? Isn't that an oxymoron? As soon as they start the fire, they are no longer peaceful protesters. The same way someone is a lawful gun owner, up until the point he uses that gun to commit a crime. Rioters (non peaceful protesters) attempted to set the church on fire the day before. During yesterday afternoons gathering by peaceful protesters, nobody was trying to set it on fire. We have laws to address rioters that commit arson and we have an Amendment to address the right to peacefully protest. You seem to want to alter them to fit you narrative. They're "yours" and not "ours" because I don't believe systemic racism exists in the US and think what they are protesting over is imaginary demons placed in their head that were whipped up by bad actors in education, the media, Hollywood, and Silicone Valley. Since I think their rage is misplaced, I would not have been out there protesting with them. That said, the have a valid gripe to be upset over how George Floyd died; his death is a bow wrapped gift to grievance peddlers everywhere. They do have a right to assembly and peacefully protest. That said, the White House and everything within a two mile radius is irreplaceable landmarks of great historical significance, so once those started burning and being vandalizing, the protestors needed to be cleared out. Washington DC is the best place in the country to lodge a protest since that's where the national government is. They'd still be there if their colleagues weren't vandalizing the area. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leeson 54 Posted June 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, Voltaire said: They're "yours" and not "ours" because I don't believe systemic racism exists in the US and think what they are protesting over is imaginary demons placed in their head that were whipped up by bad actors in education, the media, Hollywood, and Silicone Valley. Since I think their rage is misplaced, I would not have been out there protesting with them. That said, the have a valid gripe to be upset over how George Floyd died; his death is a bow wrapped gift to grievance peddlers everywhere. They do have a right to assembly and peacefully protest. That said, the White House and everything within a two mile radius is irreplaceable landmarks of great historical significance, so once those started burning and being vandalizing, the protestors needed to be cleared out. Washington DC is the best place in the country to lodge a protest since that's where the national government is. They'd still be there if their colleagues weren't vandalizing the area. Moving the goal posts? Nobody uttered the words systemic racism. Especially me. So, don't confuse your narratives. I think you have a warped sense of value. There are irreplaceable landmarks around the White House. But, you make it sound like they are worth more than a man's life. Yesterday afternoon, nothing was being burned. Same protest is happening right now in DC, why aren't they clearing them out now? It's 2 hours past the point they did it last night. And 90 minutes past curfew. The only reason for doing it yesterday was for Trumps photo op. It wasn't about upholding the law. They saw how bad the optics were and aren't going to make the same mistake twice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,322 Posted June 3, 2020 28 minutes ago, Leeson said: Moving the goal posts? Nobody uttered the words systemic racism. Especially me. So, don't confuse your narratives. I think you have a warped sense of value. There are irreplaceable landmarks around the White House. But, you make it sound like they are worth more than a man's life. Yesterday afternoon, nothing was being burned. Same protest is happening right now in DC, why aren't they clearing them out now? It's 2 hours past the point they did it last night. And 90 minutes past curfew. The only reason for doing it yesterday was for Trumps photo op. It wasn't about upholding the law. They saw how bad the optics were and aren't going to make the same mistake twice. I'll set systemic racism aside then, that's the MSM's mantra and I take it I have falsely attributed it to you. Sorry. The lives lost and honored in those monuments are over a million. If George Floyd ever gets a monument, how would you feel if a sixteen year old BiffTannen wannabee were to come by when the cops weren't looking and decorate it with with a spray paint bottle? That would be pretty upsetting. Well that's how I feel about all those other monuments. I have a different opinion of what they stand for and represent than the people who desecrated them. Once that happens, the time for patience and tollerance is over. GTFO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leeson 54 Posted June 3, 2020 11 minutes ago, Voltaire said: The lives lost and honored in those monuments are over a million. If George Floyd ever gets a monument, how would you feel if a sixteen year old BiffTannen wannabee were to come by when the cops weren't looking and decorate it with with a spray paint bottle? That would be pretty upsetting. Well that's how I feel about all those other monuments. I have a different opinion of what they stand for and represent than the people who desecrated them. Once that happens, the time for patience and tollerance is over. GTFO. Lots of "ifs" in your comment. There is no if, George Floyd is dead. Many of those monuments that you hold as important represent great leadership and sacrifice in hopes that the people of this country would be treated fairly under the Constitution. I'd venture to guess that Abraham Lincoln would gladly watch his monument crumble in order to bring the change protesters are seeking. The war memorials represent the battles on foreign shores to protect the rights and freedoms of American people. How many monuments did we destroy in other countries to protect our democratic freedoms? You've lost all respect by putting monuments over human life. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted June 3, 2020 Just now, Leeson said: Lots of "ifs" in your comment. There is no if, George Floyd is dead. Many of those monuments that you hold as important represent great leadership and sacrifice in hopes that the people of this country would be treated fairly under the Constitution. I'd venture to guess that Abraham Lincoln would gladly watch his monument crumble in order to bring the change protesters are seeking. The war memorials represent the battles on foreign shores to protect the rights and freedoms of American people. How many monuments did we destroy in other countries to protect our democratic freedoms? You've lost all respect by putting monuments over human life. I'm curious. How many unlawful killings have there been of black people by cops over the past 10 years? I wouldn't mind comparing that to the number of murders black people commited in this country over the past 10 years. I don't know the answer at this time but maybe you can give me a hand with that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Masshole 642 Posted June 3, 2020 22 minutes ago, Leeson said: The only reason for doing it yesterday was for Trumps photo op. It wasn't about upholding the law. They saw how bad the optics were and aren't going to make the same mistake twice. Total crap. "The only reason" eh? I can come up with at least 1 other viable reason: It's a national historic site that was vandalized and burned the previous night and the president is coming off a speech where he's made the decision to reinforce rule of law in the country and in DC and restablish order. The physical manifestation of the president walking from that speech directly to that site is powerful and significant. Even if Trump did his usual fumble and poorly handled the photo and vibe at the church and if to be certain it went off without a brawl the security personnel had to use smoke to ensure the way was clear. There's nothing that's gonna happen that isn't going to have some kind of stink. This is "your side's" problem Leeson. You make statements that things are "facts" ("the only reason") that are actually 100% opinion. You can argue with the decision making and thought that lead to the speech/walk/church thing. But to say that the only possible reason it was done was to get Trump a good spot for his campaign is a lie. I don't know for sure what I said here is 100% true, it's my opinion. You don't have any idea if it was a campaign prop circle jerk. One of us calls our opinion fact. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,515 Posted June 3, 2020 5 minutes ago, Utilit99 said: I'm curious. How many unlawful killings have there been of black people by cops over the past 10 years? I wouldn't mind comparing that to the number of murders black people commited in this country over the past 10 years. I don't know the answer at this time but maybe you can give me a hand with that. 10 million people were arrested in the United States last year. 1004 people were killed by police. 41 of them were unarmed. 9 of them were black. (19 were white) Yup, it’s an epidemic . But we all have to accept the lie now. Americans have always been great at lying to themselves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leeson 54 Posted June 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, Utilit99 said: I'm curious. How many unlawful killings have there been of black people by cops over the past 10 years? I wouldn't mind comparing that to the number of murders black people commited in this country over the past 10 years. I don't know the answer at this time but maybe you can give me a hand with that. You're missing one key point in your argument. When a black person murders someone, the legal system investigates and attempts to hold them accountable. When a cop kills someone, it is dismissed. Often times without any accountability. The families have to go through civil process to have a day in court. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leeson 54 Posted June 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said: 10 million people were arrested in the United States last year. 1004 people were killed by police. 41 of them were unarmed. 9 of them were black. (19 were white) Yup, it’s an epidemic . But we all have to accept the lie now. Americans have always been great at lying to themselves. Just this week a black man was shot in Louisville. He was unarmed. The don't have any record of the incident because all the police officers had their body cams turned off. Seems like someone is hiding something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,322 Posted June 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Leeson said: Lots of "ifs" in your comment. There is no if, George Floyd is dead. Many of those monuments that you hold as important represent great leadership and sacrifice in hopes that the people of this country would be treated fairly under the Constitution. I'd venture to guess that Abraham Lincoln would gladly watch his monument crumble in order to bring the change protesters are seeking. The war memorials represent the battles on foreign shores to protect the rights and freedoms of American people. How many monuments did we destroy in other countries to protect our democratic freedoms? You've lost all respect by putting monuments over human life. Maybe you missed it while typing, now it's a few posts up, but I'd edited my post to apologize to assuming you were promoting the systemic racism angle. Apparently that's an argument to be had with CNN and not with you. Unlike you they're not around to pick a bone with. Again sorry. Regarding George Floyd, originally I'd supported Murder One charges (and I still kind of do, but now realize they'll never get him on it) and possibly plea down to Murder 2. When the autopsy came back saying the kneeling didn't cause his death, only then did I grit my teeth and accept Murder 3 charges but it still set me off because what the autopsy says and what my eyes saw were totally at odds. I saw healthy man complain about lack of breathing then dying after being choked for eight minutes using a technique that many police departments around the country have banned. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leeson 54 Posted June 3, 2020 6 minutes ago, Masshole said: Total crap. "The only reason" eh? I can come up with at least 1 other viable reason: It's a national historic site that was vandalized and burned the previous night and the president is coming off a speech where he's made the decision to reinforce rule of law in the country and in DC and restablish order. The physical manifestation of the president walking from that speech directly to that site is powerful and significant. Even if Trump did his usual fumble and poorly handled the photo and vibe at the church and if to be certain it went off without a brawl the security personnel had to use smoke to ensure the way was clear. There's nothing that's gonna happen that isn't going to have some kind of stink. This is "your side's" problem Leeson. You make statements that things are "facts" ("the only reason") that are actually 100% opinion. You can argue with the decision making and thought that lead to the speech/walk/church thing. But to say that the only possible reason it was done was to get Trump a good spot for his campaign is a lie. I don't know for sure what I said here is 100% true, it's my opinion. You don't have any idea if it was a campaign prop circle jerk. One of us calls our opinion fact. Then why aren't they clearing it out today? Why did they allow everyone to hang out at Lafayette Park all day yesterday. But minutes before Trumps walk to the church do they clear out the area. Come on. You can't be that naive. You even confirm it was staged with the bolded statement. He did it to look powerful, but he ended up looking like a dictator. The facts are documented. The timing can't be argued. Trump was hiding in a bunker a couple of days ago. He's weak and scared. He needed some big gesture to try to fix it. Unfortunately, he took a dump on the Constitution to accomplish it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted June 3, 2020 10 minutes ago, Leeson said: When a cop kills someone, it is dismissed. Often times without any accountability. How many of them are those over the past 10 years? I'm just curious is all. You have a very strong opinion on it so I guess you know the numbers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Masshole 642 Posted June 3, 2020 7 minutes ago, Leeson said: Lots of "ifs" in your comment. There is no if, George Floyd is dead. Many of those monuments that you hold as important represent great leadership and sacrifice in hopes that the people of this country would be treated fairly under the Constitution. I'd venture to guess that Abraham Lincoln would gladly watch his monument crumble in order to bring the change protesters are seeking. The war memorials represent the battles on foreign shores to protect the rights and freedoms of American people. How many monuments did we destroy in other countries to protect our democratic freedoms? Agghhhh!!! "Treated fairly under the constitution". Who, what? Who is being denied the right to vote? Who is being denied the right to liberty, free press, due process, etc? Peaceful protests have mostly gone OK. Riots have been poorly put down. Are you really gonna call this a denial of the right to free association? What are you arguing about? George Floyd was killed by either a bad cop or a not good cop making a very bad decision. That cop is going to jail. The other cops lost their jobs and may be prosecuted too. There are 700K cops in the US. They are never going to be perfect, especially not doing what they have to do. And because their occupation is one of the very few that has to make life and death decisions - sometimes their mistakes are life and death. But there are no vigilante cops roaming the streets looking to kill the black man. Why would you want to present that image? Have you ever seen it? Other than the sensationalized images the media beams at you to grab your attention and get you to stare at their screen instead of someone else's? Cops are mostly good people trying to do one of the hardest jobs in the world. Doctors have to make life and death decisions under urgent conditions - do they nail those decisions 100% of the time? Your "Abraham Lincoln" comment is beyond stupid and not worth commenting on. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leeson 54 Posted June 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, Voltaire said: Maybe you missed it while typing, now it's a few posts up, but I'd edited my post to apologize to assuming you were promoting the systemic racism angle. Apparently that's an argument to be had with CNN and not with you. Unlike you they're not around to pick a bone with. Again sorry. Regarding George Floyd, originally I'd supported Murder One charges (and I still kind of do, but now realize they'll never get him on it) and possibly plea down to Murder 2. When the autopsy came back saying the kneeling didn't cause his death, only then did I grit my teeth and accept Murder 3 charges but it still set me off because what the autopsy says and what my eyes saw were totally at odds. I saw healthy man complain about lack of breathing then dying after being choked for eight minutes using a technique that many police departments around the country have banned. Appreciate the correction. It's all good. I don't think the murder 1 charge is a smart move. You can't prove it was premeditated. I don't want them to charge him and then have him get acquitted. That would just cause more problems. The guys life is ruined. His lost his job. His wife divorced him. He's going to be found guilty of manslaughter and will probably get shanked in a prison shower in his first year. The independent autopsy came back differently. This is another questionable action by the investigators involved with this. I would want that city coroner investigated. If he/she is lying, the should be held accountable. I also don't think the other 3 should be charged. Cops in that situation are watching their front and back to keep the situation under control. The two cops that were holding his legs, may not have known about the knee on Floyd's neck. The 4th cop that was watching the crowd shouldn't have been fired. Reprimand and move on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leeson 54 Posted June 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, Utilit99 said: How many of them are those over the past 10 years? I'm just curious is all. You have a very strong opinion on it so I guess you know the numbers. One. Does it matter how many. This is about equal protection under the law. Police are not held to that same standard. Do you think they are? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted June 3, 2020 13 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: 10 million people were arrested in the United States last year. 1004 people were killed by police. 41 of them were unarmed. 9 of them were black. (19 were white) Yup, it’s an epidemic . But we all have to accept the lie now. Americans have always been great at lying to themselves. So 9 of them. Wow. This is way out of hand to the point of we should go out into the public by the 1000's and protest and riot and hurt other people and kill and ruin businesses and etc... I wonder how many murders black people executed successfully last year. Hmm.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,934 Posted June 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Utilit99 said: So 9 of them. Wow. This is way out of hand to the point of we should go out into the public by the 1000's and protest and riot and hurt other people and kill and ruin businesses and etc... I wonder how many murders black people executed successfully last year. Hmm.... Black people are innocent. Anything they do that is wrong is because of a white supremacist. Please report to your local Antifa for your reeducation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted June 3, 2020 10 minutes ago, Leeson said: One. Does it matter how many. This is about equal protection under the law. Police are not held to that same standard. Do you think they are? So you have no idea what you are fighting for here? It doesn't matter that the guy who did this latest one is in prison? You didn't like the fact that the investigators needed time to look at things? Are you suggesting the that the police should not investigate black criminals and just throw them in prison on the spot for all situations without a trial, just public opinion wins? Some times there are bad guys in a profession. If there are only about IDK, 10 bad situations last year of a cop being a bad guy or simply making a bad decision when his life might be on the line, and there were how many murders commited by black folks last year, you want to put the focus on the 10 that this country needs to fix over the thousands and thousands of people that lose their lives simply because of some black dudes wanting to kill someone? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Masshole 642 Posted June 3, 2020 15 minutes ago, Leeson said: The facts are documented. The timing can't be argued. Trump was hiding in a bunker a couple of days ago. He's weak and scared. He needed some big gesture to try to fix it. Unfortunately, he took a dump on the Constitution to accomplish it. Thank you for proving my point*. * That's 100% my opinion. It's not a fact and it can be argued. Just like everything you said before and after "fact", "timing" and "reason". . . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leeson 54 Posted June 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, Masshole said: Agghhhh!!! "Treated fairly under the constitution". Who, what? Who is being denied the right to vote? Who is being denied the right to liberty, free press, due process, etc? Peaceful protests have mostly gone OK. Riots have been poorly put down. Are you really gonna call this a denial of the right to free association? What are you arguing about? George Floyd was killed by either a bad cop or a not good cop making a very bad decision. That cop is going to jail. The other cops lost their jobs and may be prosecuted too. There are 700K cops in the US. They are never going to be perfect, especially not doing what they have to do. And because their occupation is one of the very few that has to make life and death decisions - sometimes their mistakes are life and death. But there are no vigilante cops roaming the streets looking to kill the black man. Why would you want to present that image? Have you ever seen it? Other than the sensationalized images the media beams at you to grab your attention and get you to stare at their screen instead of someone else's? Cops are mostly good people trying to do one of the hardest jobs in the world. Doctors have to make life and death decisions under urgent conditions - do they nail those decisions 100% of the time? Your "Abraham Lincoln" comment is beyond stupid and not worth commenting on. Man, you must be living under a rock. The press has been assaulted and arrested in the past week. I don't remember his name, but the black CNN reporter was arrested in Minneapolis while he was live on the air? The governor admitted the police were wrong. The cops had not answer for why they were arresting him? I've seen numerous reports of police attacking press in different cities. There are a lot of good cops. There are a lot of good people. But, there are also bad people everywhere. When bad people break the law, we have laws to investigate and address it. That doesn't happen to cops as consistently as it does with the general public. We need to revamp our judicial system. I'm also seeing reports of cops covering their badge numbers. Why would they need to do that? There are a bunch of examples over the last week where cops have abused their powers and assaulted protesters.The reason it's being seen now is because of the crowds with cell phones. Logic would tell you that it happens at other times. Away from the crowds and cameras. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,515 Posted June 3, 2020 21 minutes ago, Leeson said: Just this week a black man was shot in Louisville. He was unarmed. The don't have any record of the incident because all the police officers had their body cams turned off. Seems like someone is hiding something. He was not unarmed. There is video of him shooting at police. Why are you spreading a lie? His name was David McAtee. Google and get back to us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leeson 54 Posted June 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, Utilit99 said: So you have no idea what you are fighting for here? It doesn't matter that the guy who did this latest one is in prison? You didn't like the fact that the investigators needed time to look at things? Are you suggesting the that the police should not investigate black criminals and just throw them in prison on the spot for all situations without a trial, just public opinion wins? Some times there are bad guys in a profession. If there are only about IDK, 10 bad situations last year of a cop being a bad guy or simply making a bad decision when his life might be on the line, and there were how many murders commited by black folks last year, you want to put the focus on the 10 that this country needs to fix over the thousands and thousands of people that lose their lives simply because of some black dudes wanting to kill someone? This applies to your comment above. How we got here is part 1. How the police are handling it just confirms the problem and is part 2. 1 minute ago, Leeson said: The press has been assaulted and arrested in the past week. I don't remember his name, but the black CNN reporter was arrested in Minneapolis while he was live on the air? The governor admitted the police were wrong. The cops had not answer for why they were arresting him? I've seen numerous reports of police attacking press in different cities. There are a lot of good cops. There are a lot of good people. But, there are also bad people everywhere. When bad people break the law, we have laws to investigate and address it. That doesn't happen to cops as consistently as it does with the general public. We need to revamp our judicial system. I'm also seeing reports of cops covering their badge numbers. Why would they need to do that? There are a bunch of examples over the last week where cops have abused their powers and assaulted protesters.The reason it's being seen now is because of the crowds with cell phones. Logic would tell you that it happens at other times. Away from the crowds and cameras. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted June 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Leeson said: This applies to your comment above. How we got here is part 1. How the police are handling it just confirms the problem and is part 2. Your comment on the CNN reporter is empty. I don't know what he did but he was talked to and let go. CNN is not good for your mind. And you still don't know what you are fighting for. You can't bring any justifiable numbers to the table to riot in all the cities in the US> If you want, you look up the number of times that police have gotten off of charges for unlawfully killing a black person over the last 10 years, then I'll be willing to look up the numbers on how many murders black people committed over the past 10 years, and we can discuss what is the bigger problem in the US. If your mentor newbie was to whisper the answer for a response to this in your ear, he would say "Don't reply, ignore it and post a Trump tweet you don't like." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leeson 54 Posted June 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: He was not unarmed. There is video of him shooting at police. Why are you spreading a lie? His name was David McAtee. Google and get back to us. I've seen a video. Maybe it's not the same angle or video you've seen. I see the police shooting at the fence. But, I don't see McAttee shooting. If that's the case, then he deserves what he got. I would like to see better video. Perhaps body cam footage. Why did every cop have his body cam turned off? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Masshole 642 Posted June 3, 2020 5 minutes ago, Leeson said: Man, you must be living under a rock. The press has been assaulted and arrested in the past week. I don't remember his name, but the black CNN reporter was arrested in Minneapolis while he was live on the air? The governor admitted the police were wrong. The cops had not answer for why they were arresting him? I've seen numerous reports of police attacking press in different cities. There are a lot of good cops. There are a lot of good people. But, there are also bad people everywhere. When bad people break the law, we have laws to investigate and address it. That doesn't happen to cops as consistently as it does with the general public. We need to revamp our judicial system. I'm also seeing reports of cops covering their badge numbers. Why would they need to do that? There are a bunch of examples over the last week where cops have abused their powers and assaulted protesters.The reason it's being seen now is because of the crowds with cell phones. Logic would tell you that it happens at other times. Away from the crowds and cameras. "I've seen reports". "I can't remember his name reporter" but he was definitely Nelson Mandela'd to prison. Do you actually look anything up? Do you believe everything posted on reddit? They were released within an hour and they were arrested because it was the middle of a fuking riot and the police asked them to move from where they had set up and they didn't and wouldn't. Cops are abusing their powers? You mean like when they stand by and let their town/city be looted and burned? Even for a troll you are poorly informed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites