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10 minutes ago, TimmySmith said:

You realize the Trump voters have been the covid people from day 1. Always most sick, most hospitalized, most dead. This was before the vax. Now it's rinse and repeat.  It's politicized at its core and lying botcuck is one of it's  tools.

No.  Pre vaccine, for the most part the most sick/hospitalized were poor “essential workers,” generally minorities and this was widely discussed.  I’m not sure who the most sick now are, but I’ll admit that the focus seems to be on the (largely Republican) unvaccinated population that now regrets not getting the vax.  I’m sure there are also minorities among the current sick too, but we haven’t heard as much about them as last year.

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2 hours ago, TimHauck said:

No, overall the places where Trump had the highest vote share have the lowest vaccination rates. 

So 65% of black people voted for Trump. Nice. :thumbsup:

And your girl gave out this message. Awesome.

 

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10 minutes ago, Utilit99 said:

So 65% of black people voted for Trump. Nice. :thumbsup:

And your girl gave out this message. Awesome.

 

Huh?  As already discussed, I’m not denying that blacks have a low vaccination rate.  But many White Republican areas are even lower.  Thanks to HT for helping prove my point that blacks in NYC have a higher vax rate than white Republican counties.

And I don’t see what’s wrong with Harris’s statement.  She said she’d take it if doctors said it was safe.

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15 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

No.  Pre vaccine, for the most part the most sick/hospitalized were poor “essential workers,” generally minorities and this was widely discussed.  I’m not sure who the most sick now are, but I’ll admit that the focus seems to be on the (largely Republican) unvaccinated population that now regrets not getting the vax.  I’m sure there are also minorities among the current sick too, but we haven’t heard as much about them as last year.

:lol: Such a lib liar. All their last words are "why didn't Iget the vax?".  :lol:  Do you get all your news from Yahoo's front page, liar?

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Just now, TimmySmith said:

:lol: Such a lib liar. All their last words are "why didn't Iget the vax?".  :lol:  Do you get all your news from Yahoo's front page, liar?

I didn’t say they were the only ones getting sick, I said that’s what the media was focusing on.  I was agreeing with you on that part for what’s going on now.

But that wasn’t the case last year.

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50 minutes ago, joneo said:

I'd be entertained to see a video of Tucker "running insane anti vaccine conspiracy stuff". Sounds like a good watch  :bench:

It’s the same stuff as everything else. Suggesting it doesn’t work, or it’s just population control, stuff like that. Just trying to undermine trust in it for whatever reason. And it works.

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11 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

It’s the same stuff as everything else. Suggesting it doesn’t work, or it’s just population control, stuff like that. Just trying to undermine trust in it for whatever reason. And it works.

Tucker was “just asking questions” and I believe has at least recommended old people get the vaccine.

However there are politicians like MJT that have openly opposed the vaccine as a whole.   At least it seems even most of the GC thinks she’s a nutjob

 

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50 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

It’s the same stuff as everything else. Suggesting it doesn’t work, or it’s just population control, stuff like that. Just trying to undermine trust in it for whatever reason. And it works.

so that would be easy for you to find this/these videos of him saying this? 

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1 hour ago, joneo said:

I'd be entertained to see a video of Tucker "running insane anti vaccine conspiracy stuff". Sounds like a good watch  :bench:

Well, it never happened. Anyone who actually watched knows that. Population control? Never heard that one. 

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13 minutes ago, joneo said:

so that would be easy for you to find this/these videos of him saying this? 

Your Google machine broken?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-democrats-cdc-lying-covid-vaccine.amp

https://m.facebook.com/TuckerCarlsonTonight/videos/226502935951574/

I’m sure there’s more. He was on some weird innuendo-fueled anti vaxx campaign even while Fox News was saying don’t listen to the guy and get vaccinated :wacko:

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35 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Your Google machine broken?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-democrats-cdc-lying-covid-vaccine.amp

https://m.facebook.com/TuckerCarlsonTonight/videos/226502935951574/

I’m sure there’s more. He was on some weird innuendo-fueled anti vaxx campaign even while Fox News was saying don’t listen to the guy and get vaccinated :wacko:

Carlson never said people shouldn’t get vaccinated. It’s a shame that dishonest media operates this way. 

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33 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Your Google machine broken?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-democrats-cdc-lying-covid-vaccine.amp

https://m.facebook.com/TuckerCarlsonTonight/videos/226502935951574/

I’m sure there’s more. He was on some weird innuendo-fueled anti vaxx campaign even while Fox News was saying don’t listen to the guy and get vaccinated :wacko:

Ummmmm...yeah. In one video, he is quoting FACTS from Isreal doctor's findings. I hardly think that qualifies as "insane" of "conspiracy theory"

In the other video, he factually points out the hypocrisy of Biden's statements. Actually..points out the falt out LIES. 

So please try again to point out where Tucker is "running insane anti vaccine conspiracy stuff"

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2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Carlson never said people shouldn’t get vaccinated. It’s a shame that dishonest media operates this way. 

Hey HT, any comment on the Bronx vs Allegany County vaccination rates?

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Just now, TimHauck said:

Hey HT, any comment on the Bronx vs Allegany County vaccination rates?

What’s the population difference? 

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For Fock sakes, Deer are being found with the virus. OMG .....It's coming right for us!  KICK ASS!!!

 

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2 hours ago, TimHauck said:

Oh and Allegany County is apparently 97% white - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegany_County,_New_York

Allegahny county-  15 k.   The Bronx - 1.5 million.  Please stop with your percentage nonsense. I find it insulting when people try to sell their garbage based on that. 

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2 hours ago, TimHauck said:

Huh?  As already discussed, I’m not denying that blacks have a low vaccination rate.  But many White Republican areas are even lower.  Thanks to HT for helping prove my point that blacks in NYC have a higher vax rate than white Republican counties.

And I don’t see what’s wrong with Harris’s statement.  She said she’d take it if doctors said it was safe.

Trump recommended it. She said she wouldn't take it if he did. 

How hard is that to understand?

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1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Allegahny county-  15 k.   The Bronx - 1.5 million.  Please stop with your percentage nonsense. I find it insulting when people try to sell their garbage based on that. 

Lol you were the one that literally said “the Bronx probably has the lowest rate in the country” (bolding mine).  So are you going to admit you were wrong?  They’re not even close to the lowest just in NY.

But I agree, we shouldn’t focus on %’s.  There are many more unvaccinated whites in the country than unvaccinated blacks.  If we want to increase our total # of people vaccinated, we should focus on the unvaccinated white people.

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1 hour ago, Utilit99 said:

Trump recommended it. She said she wouldn't take it if he did. 

How hard is that to understand?

She said she’d take it if doctors recommended it.

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16 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

She said she’d take it if doctors recommended it.

She said she wouldn't take if Trump said to take it. Why did she even say that? And why would she lie if that wasn't true?

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26 minutes ago, Utilit99 said:

She said she wouldn't take if Trump said to take it. Why did she even say that? And why would she lie if that wasn't true?

She was talking about if ONLY Trump said it.

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Honestly, I want this thing to clean house. The earth needs a good Extinction event. Nature is a lot smarter than we are. Every so often it takes a ginormous s*** and things get a lot better.

 

I don't know why it's not burning through shiitholes like Haiti and well, most of the world. - And NASCAR fans. 

 

But frigging get to it already. 

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14 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

She was talking about if ONLY Trump said it.

Love the liberal interpretation techniques. :lol:

She pandered to Trump haters you dolt. And I am sure it had an effect on people. 

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15 minutes ago, wiffleball said:

Honestly, I want this thing to clean house. The earth needs a good Extinction event. Nature is a lot smarter than we are. Every so often it takes a ginormous s*** and things get a lot better.

 

I don't know why it's not burning through shiitholes like Haiti and well, most of the world. - And NASCAR fans. 

 

But frigging get to it already. 

I agreed with you on two posts in a row now!!!

 

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1 minute ago, Utilit99 said:

I agreed with you on two posts in a row now!!!

 

Let's not make it a habit. 

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1 minute ago, wiffleball said:

Let's not make it a habit. 

I'm not worried about that honestly. :lol:

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50 minutes ago, Utilit99 said:

Love the liberal interpretation techniques. :lol:

She pandered to Trump haters you dolt. And I am sure it had an effect on people. 

Of course she pandered to Trump haters.   But she wasn’t saying she wasn’t going to take the vaccine.  (And of course that quote was from October before it was authorized)

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7 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Of course she pandered to Trump haters.   But she wasn’t saying she wasn’t going to take the vaccine.  (And of course that quote was from October before it was authorized)

Jeez. Get over it. She said it. You know it. All your words cannot undo what she said.

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7 minutes ago, Utilit99 said:

Jeez. Get over it. She said it. You know it. All your words cannot undo what she said.

Exactly.  She said she'd take it if doctors recommended it.

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11 hours ago, joneo said:

You are assuming that someone who tests positive for Covid is different than anyone else.  You could be carrying Covid and not test positive. You could be vaccinated and still carry Covid. A person that has Covid is no more likely to pass it to others than other carriers. 

I have had Covid. For discussion sake, let's assume you have not and but have been vaccinated.

 

1. Do you feel I can carry and spread Covid?

2. Do you feel you can carry and spread Covid?

Not really.. But admittedly, I do assume those testing positive for Covid (now) are indeed, non-vaccinated. It's that a fair or accurate assumption? No, not at all. You can certainly still catch it even if you're vaccinated....... But the data suggests about 80% of all new cases are from non-vaccinated people. 

I was never officially diagnosed with Covid, but I'm pretty sure I had it. This was back in Jan., 2020 - well before this thing really got out of hand, well before masks, well before kids were not going to school, well before shutdowns..... I had a nasty cough/nasal congestion/drainage, and headaches for a month. The 3rd week in I lost my sense of taste/smell for 5 days. 

1. I would think anyone with Covid can spread it. If you have it, you could potentially spread it. 

2. I would be the same as you. If I had it, I could spread it. 

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7 hours ago, TimHauck said:

No.  Pre vaccine, for the most part the most sick/hospitalized were poor “essential workers,” generally minorities and this was widely discussed.  

No. The elderly. 

 

Jeesus guys. Barely even a year old yet. Get your s*** straight. 

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52 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Exactly.  She said she'd take it if doctors recommended it.

You just keep denying. :doh:

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Every time I hear this, I think of some freak b!tch I ran into at a Cancun club on Spring Break.  Things started off on the dance floor where she made me finger bang her poop shoot while dancing.  They ended hours later on the beach where I fuked her while she had a butt plug.  

 

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So. In Kamala Harris’ pea brain, there was as scenario where Trump would say take the vaccine and the scientists and doctors wouldn’t say to take it? It would solely be based on Trump saying to take it? And Tim Hack is trying to cover for her. 

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7 hours ago, TimHauck said:

Tucker was “just asking questions” and I believe has at least recommended old people get the vaccine.

However there are politicians like MJT that have openly opposed the vaccine as a whole.   At least it seems even most of the GC thinks she’s a nutjob

 

So what? Carlson never told anyone to not get it and if someone else is opposed to the vaccine, why are you trying to take away their rights?

I personally don't give a shlt who gets it or not. Why do you whine about it incessantly?

This is called freedom. 

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On 8/14/2021 at 9:26 PM, KSB2424 said:

Tubby, do you wear a seat belt?   If you ride a motorcycle do you you wear a helmet?  When you shoot your AR do you wear eye and ear protection?

I'm not trying to be a diick but comments like I just quoted irritate me. 

 

Seat belt: Yes. I'm scared of me dying or my kids or wife being without a dad/husband.
I don't motorcycle.
AR: I wear ear protection 95% of the time when shooting my AR.  No eye protection.  I'm scared of/believe the risks with hearing loss.

Grinding things in my shop: I wear eye protection.  I'm scared of losing an eye.

I wear mosquito repellent not because I'm scared...but because I don't like being bit.

I've never had a flu shot. 

Its pick and choose my battles/my remedies for various reasons. Same for everyone. 

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8 hours ago, wiffleball said:

No. The elderly. 

 

Jeesus guys. Barely even a year old yet. Get your s*** straight. 

For deaths yes, but news stories never cared about their race or political party since it probably effected all old people equally for the most part (maybe slightly more white people since they tend to live longer and be able to afford nursing homes).  But of younger (under 50ish) people, minorities tended to be more impacted.

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8 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

So. In Kamala Harris’ pea brain, there was as scenario where Trump would say take the vaccine and the scientists and doctors wouldn’t say to take it? It would solely be based on Trump saying to take it? And Tim Hack is trying to cover for her. 

I’ll agree with this that her scenario didn’t really make sense, and she was pandering which I already stated.  But she didn’t say she wasn’t going to take it.

There was a dem running for senate in NC that said he’d be hesitant to take it though.  He lost (probably also partly due to his cheating scandal with the wife of an army veteran).

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8 hours ago, Utilit99 said:

So what? Carlson never told anyone to not get it and if someone else is opposed to the vaccine, why are you trying to take away their rights?

I personally don't give a shlt who gets it or not. Why do you whine about it incessantly?

This is called freedom. 

I agree that Carlson technically never told anyone not to get it.

But MJT did (and I believe some other Republican politicians did as well).  You don't see any problem with what she said in that video?  Celebrating a low vaccination rate?  Implying people should shoot someone that knocks on their door?

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11 hours ago, Cruzer said:

Not really.. But admittedly, I do assume those testing positive for Covid (now) are indeed, non-vaccinated. It's that a fair or accurate assumption? No, not at all. You can certainly still catch it even if you're vaccinated....... But the data suggests about 80% of all new cases are from non-vaccinated people. 

I was never officially diagnosed with Covid, but I'm pretty sure I had it. This was back in Jan., 2020 - well before this thing really got out of hand, well before masks, well before kids were not going to school, well before shutdowns..... I had a nasty cough/nasal congestion/drainage, and headaches for a month. The 3rd week in I lost my sense of taste/smell for 5 days. 

1. I would think anyone with Covid can spread it. If you have it, you could potentially spread it. 

2. I would be the same as you. If I had it, I could spread it. 

Agree. Thanks for the input

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