***Wagering thread***

[bostonlager 2,463]

Tonight 

Nevada ML +105 --- Coin flip but they have the guy that could be the first QB drafted next spring 

[bostonlager 2,463]

@Fireballer

@jerryskids

What I am curious about with you guys being in legal wagering states is the taxes. I have not paid a dime in taxes over last decade and a half and should certainly be in prison. 

1. Are these like stocks in that you don't have to pay until you cash out?

2. Are the books going to fock you on these free bets they give you and they will show up on your end as income?

[BeenHereBefore 1,332]

50 minutes ago, bostonlager said:

@Fireballer

@jerryskids

What I am curious about with you guys being in legal wagering states is the taxes. I have not paid a dime in taxes over last decade and a half and should certainly be in prison. 

1. Are these like stocks in that you don't have to pay until you cash out?

2. Are the books going to fock you on these free bets they give you and they will show up on your end as income?

My site will send you a $500 check if you request it. Being in PA. I don't think they tax you as long as your winnings are under $600.

[jerryskids 5,206]

1 hour ago, bostonlager said:

@Fireballer

@jerryskids

What I am curious about with you guys being in legal wagering states is the taxes. I have not paid a dime in taxes over last decade and a half and should certainly be in prison. 

1. Are these like stocks in that you don't have to pay until you cash out?

2. Are the books going to fock you on these free bets they give you and they will show up on your end as income?

Good questions.  I think it’s $600 like BHB said.  Great question on the free bets, I dunno, probably.  This is a learning year, and we aren’t betting a lot anyway.  I presume we’ll get some EOY tax statements and find out.  I’ll certainly let you know.

I don’t quite get your cash out question.  

[bostonlager 2,463]

5 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Good questions.  I think it’s $600 like BHB said.  Great question on the free bets, I dunno, probably.  This is a learning year, and we aren’t betting a lot anyway.  I presume we’ll get some EOY tax statements and find out.  I’ll certainly let you know.

I don’t quite get your cash out question.  

By cash out I mean - you keep the money in your account and keep betting = not tax implications yet. 
 

You cash out and have the book send you a check. Now that you’ve “sold the stock” you must pay on the winnings/profit 

[KSB2424 3,083]

I'm debating of becoming a full time Black Jack player.  

I don't lose, and trust me I fully realize how weird that sounds and how that is bad karma.  'tis true though.  And yes I know BJ is the simplest of games....thats why its the easiest house game.   

  1.  You must play by the book

2.  You gotta have a deep bankroll 

3.  The key is the betting amount strategy.  Firing on runs, reading the the cards of the table (other players), and doubling down / splitting at all times when the odds switch.  

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6 minutes ago, KSB2424 said:

I'm debating of becoming a full time Black Jack player.  

I don't lose, and trust me I fully realize how weird that sounds and how that is bad karma.  'tis true though.  And yes I know BJ is the simplest of games....thats why its the easiest house game.   

  1.  You must play by the book

2.  You gotta have a deep bankroll 

3.  The key is the betting amount strategy.  Firing on runs, reading the the cards of the table (other players), and doubling down / splitting at all times when the odds switch.  

I would be interested in hearing your strategy. I’ve never messed with it bc everything I’ve ever read said even is you play perfect you’re always at a minimum 3% disadvantage to the house. 

[Fireballer 2,383]

8 minutes ago, KSB2424 said:

I'm debating of becoming a full time Black Jack player.  

I don't lose, and trust me I fully realize how weird that sounds and how that is bad karma.  'tis true though.  And yes I know BJ is the simplest of games....thats why its the easiest house game.   

  1.  You must play by the book

2.  You gotta have a deep bankroll 

3.  The key is the betting amount strategy.  Firing on runs, reading the the cards of the table (other players), and doubling down / splitting at all times when the odds switch.  

I love blackjack, but I fuking despise playing with idiots who don't know how to play.

[bostonlager 2,463]

10 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

I love blackjack, but I fuking despise playing with idiots who don't know how to play.

What plays did you go with for the free bets?

[Fireballer 2,383]

Just now, bostonlager said:

What plays did you go with for the free bets?

Nothing yet. I was waiting on a juicy play from you early tomorrow 

[bostonlager 2,463]

1 minute ago, Fireballer said:

Nothing yet. I was waiting on a juicy play from you early tomorrow 

Definitely get Wake at 4.5 tonight. It will likely go down by tomorrow. 

[bostonlager 2,463]

2 minutes ago, bostonlager said:

Definitely get Wake at 4.5 tonight. It will likely go down by tomorrow. 

This could be a trap game and you know I hate sides/totals, but this would be my blow out winner for tomorrow. Clemson can’t score on a high school team. I don’t get how they are favored. I know Wake’s defense sucks, but still. 

[bostonlager 2,463]

Justyn Ross is hurt too. He will likely play, but won’t be 100%. That hurts an already crappy Clemson offense. 

[Fireballer 2,383]

1 minute ago, bostonlager said:

Justyn Ross is hurt too. He will likely play, but won’t be 100%. That hurts an already crappy Clemson offense. 

They actually did a good analysis of this game on the Bet the Board podcast yesterday.  It scared me off of WF. It's at 46:00

 

[Fireballer 2,383]

I shoulda jumped on Bama

I can get HOU at -6.5 in a 0-0 game.  Or under 45.5

 

Fuk!  Just missed -6.5

[bostonlager 2,463]

24 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

They actually did a good analysis of this game on the Bet the Board podcast yesterday.  It scared me off of WF. It's at 46:00

 

I will go back to the drawing board between now and tomorrow morning.

[Fireballer 2,383]

18 minutes ago, bostonlager said:

I will go back to the drawing board between now and tomorrow morning.

What you think about UNLV u 135.5?

[bostonlager 2,463]

22 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

What you think about UNLV u 135.5?

I don’t have enough info on CBB to be looking at totals yet. That’s a business I don’t usually walk-in to until February 

[jerryskids 5,206]

3 hours ago, bostonlager said:

By cash out I mean - you keep the money in your account and keep betting = not tax implications yet. 
 

You cash out and have the book send you a check. Now that you’ve “sold the stock” you must pay on the winnings/profit 

Gotcha.  Another good question.  My guess is that the tax man will want his pound of flesh independent of moving the money out, but I don't know.

[BeenHereBefore 1,332]

1 hour ago, bostonlager said:

Definitely get Wake at 4.5 tonight. It will likely go down by tomorrow. 

I like this for tomorrow as well and also like SMU with the points and Cinci can't cover the points the last 3 weeks. Why cause their D is not good. Heck wouldn't surprise me if that is the upset of the week and SMU out right wins the game.

[BeenHereBefore 1,332]

14 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Gotcha.  Another good question.  My guess is that the tax man will want his pound of flesh independent of moving the money out, but I don't know.

I think if you just cash out now and then under the state limit to be tax most are probably good doing that. I'm like you and not betting a ton so not worried about it. I also think there is nothing to worry about the free bet money the sites give you cause you aren't allowed to cash that out anyways on the sites.

[bostonlager 2,463]

16 hours ago, bostonlager said:

Friday Night College

Memphis - Houston 

Nathaniel Dell u 77.5 receiving

Clayton Tune u 249.5 passing 

Seth Henigan o 285.5 passing 

Alton McCaskill u 89.5 rushing 

Calvin Austin u 6 receptions

2-3 

Get it back today

[bostonlager 2,463]

Considering Michigan State's crappy pass defense - o 69.5 worth a look

[bostonlager 2,463]

Noon

Iowa State - Oklahoma 

Jado Haselwood u 38.5 receiving 

Jado Haselwood u 3.5 receptions

Marvin Mims u 50.5 receiving

Caleb Williams u 45.5 rushing 

Brock Purdy o 260.5 passing 

Michigan State - Ohio State 

Garrett Wilson o 5 receptions

Jaxon Smith-Njigba o 5.5 receptions

Jayden Reed o 4.5 receptions

Jayden Reed o 68.5 receiving 

Kenneth Walker u 120.5 rushing 

Wake Forest - Clemson 

AT Perry u 77.5 receiving 

Jaquari Roberson u 79.5 receiving

[Fireballer 2,383]

11 hours ago, Fireballer said:

What you think about UNLV u 135.5?

I ended up betting this and won by .5.

[bostonlager 2,463]

Just now, Fireballer said:

I ended up betting this and won by .5.

Nice. 

Nothing on the board really sticks out today. I wish I could be more help, but its a tough slate. 

[bostonlager 2,463]

Mid-Day

Arkansas - Alabama 

John Metchie u 70.5 receiving

John Metchie u 6.5 receptions

Trelon Burks u 70.5 receiving

KJ Jefferson u 205.5 passing 

KJ Jefferson u 37.5 rushing 

[bostonlager 2,463]

Late

Oregon - Utah 

Brant Kuithe u 37.5 receiving

Brant Kuithe u 3.5 receptions 

Travis Dye u 30.5 receiving

Cameron Rising u 200.5 passing

 

Looks like this is it. They didn't offer much today 

 

[bostonlager 2,463]

Ohio State o 1000 passing 

[bostonlager 2,463]

5 hours ago, bostonlager said:

Noon

Iowa State - Oklahoma 

Jado Haselwood u 38.5 receiving 

Jado Haselwood u 3.5 receptions

Marvin Mims u 50.5 receiving

Caleb Williams u 45.5 rushing 

Brock Purdy o 260.5 passing 

Michigan State - Ohio State 

Garrett Wilson o 5 receptions

Jaxon Smith-Njigba o 5.5 receptions

Jayden Reed o 4.5 receptions

Jayden Reed o 68.5 receiving 

Kenneth Walker u 120.5 rushing 

Wake Forest - Clemson 

AT Perry u 77.5 receiving 

Jaquari Roberson u 79.5 receiving

Noon: 7-5

College Week: 9-8

[bostonlager 2,463]

Homer bet: Utah -3

A Utes win puts the Cincy Bearcats in the driver’s seat 

[bostonlager 2,463]

Going to need a miracle to avoid my 2nd losing week of the year. I’m getting drunk the rest of the evening and will update results in the morning. 
 

full slate of NFL props coming if today ends up being a loser. 

[BeenHereBefore 1,332]

Take the Browns today minus the points.

[Fireballer 2,383]

4 minutes ago, BeenHereBefore said:

Take the Browns today minus the points.

I took it Thurs at -10 when grumblings of Goff being out started.

[BeenHereBefore 1,332]

2 hours ago, Fireballer said:

I took it Thurs at -10 when grumblings of Goff being out started.

Cool but they win by 17 either way all good.

[BeenHereBefore 1,332]

2 hours ago, Fireballer said:

I took it Thurs at -10 when grumblings of Goff being out started.

Ain't Casey the back up and not to bad? Opps my bad  and don't know who Goff back up is.

[BeenHereBefore 1,332]

Point being I think the Browns have the best back up QB in the NFL.

[bostonlager 2,463]

19 hours ago, bostonlager said:

Mid-Day

Arkansas - Alabama 

John Metchie u 70.5 receiving

John Metchie u 6.5 receptions

Trelon Burks u 70.5 receiving

KJ Jefferson u 205.5 passing 

KJ Jefferson u 37.5 rushing 

 

18 hours ago, bostonlager said:

Late

Oregon - Utah 

Brant Kuithe u 37.5 receiving

Brant Kuithe u 3.5 receptions 

Travis Dye u 30.5 receiving

Cameron Rising u 200.5 passing

 

Looks like this is it. They didn't offer much today 

 

Mid and Late: 3-6

College Week: 12-14

College Season: 270-171-6 

 

[bostonlager 2,463]

1:00

Green Bay - Minnesota 

Adam Thielen u 60.6 receiving 

Tyler Conklin u 40.5 receiving

Justin Jefferson u 6.5 receptions

Marquez Valez-Scantling u 39.5 receiving

Marquez Valdez-Scantling u 3 receptions

Aaron Rodgers u 275.5 passing

Kirk Cousins u 269.5 passing 

Houston - Tennessee 

Anthony Firkser u 23.5 receiving

Marcus Johnson o 35.5 receiving

Brandon Cooks u 70.5 receiving

Brandon Cooks u 5.5 receptions

Tyrod Taylor u 239.5 passing

Indianapolis - Buffalo 

Carson Wentz u 225.5 passing 

Jonathan Taylor u 77.5 rushing

Jonathan Taylor u 105.5 rushing + receiving

Miami - NYJ

Joe Flacco o 230.5 passing 

Myles Gaskin u 48.5 rushing 

New Orleans - Philadelphia 

Mark Ingram u 4.5 receptions

Mark Ingram u 29.5 receiving

Deonte Harris o 40.5 receiving

Trequan Smith u 40.5 receiving 

San Francisco - Jacksonville 

Jeff Wilson u 77.5 rushing

Deebo Samuel o 77.5 receiving

Redskins - Carolina

Cam Newton u 27.5 rushing 

DeAndre Carter u 28.5 receiving 

Taylor Heineke u 230.5 passing

[Fireballer 2,383]

Thoughts on Dallas game? I know this line is based on the thought that the "Chiefs are back" after beating up on the Raiders. All I've been reading this week, though, is that the Raiders didn't follow the blueprint on defense that had slowed the Chiefs in the previous weeks. The public looks to be about 50-50 on this game.  I really want to lean Dallas here.