Ukraine - Doomsday

[Gepetto 1,340]

6 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

Way to go, scoop. No one previously knew that NPR received government funding. (Psssst, it received government funding under Trump.)

Way to deflect.  So you already knew about NPR and still claim you believe their throw in sentence that documents were altered without any in depth explanation of that assertion at all by them.

[Pimpadeaux 2,405]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

I’ll say it again and expand:  Tell Putin Ukraine won’t be joining NATO, no long range missiles in Ukraine, no bio labs. Russia gets to keep what they have annexed if they want, and Nordstream 2 gets repaired. 

Ukraine isn't going to go for that, seeing as they get pretty much nothing out of that other than the end of the war, which it is winning at this point. Russia gives up nothing here.

Try again.

[Pimpadeaux 2,405]

Just now, Gepetto said:

Way to deflect.  So you already knew about NPR and still claim you believe their throw in sentence that documents were altered without in any depth explanation of that assertion at all by them.

You post that government funding of NPR is some breaking-news gotcha. I pointed out that government funds NPR, including under Trump. This isn't a deflection. It's an infosmash of your assertion. 

And the news entities' reporting on the altered infoleak still trumps an unsubstantiated opinion, likely based on some conspiracy theory, even though the leak source is a 21-year-old MAGAtard with an agenda.

[GobbleDog 989]

10 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Who did it then? Gremlins? 

I have no idea. My guess would be Russia first, and second a pro-Ukraine group. There's talk of Poland, other NATO countries, and even the U.S., but those suspects seems highly improbable.

I sure as hell hope the U.S. didn't have anything to do with it. I didn't vote for Biden and don't love some domestic policies, but I don't believe he'd do that. The U.S. makes mistakes occasionally (usually with good intentions), but terrorism?  I don't believe it.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,196]

9 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

Ukraine isn't going to go for that, seeing as they get pretty much nothing out of that other than the end of the war, which it is winning at this point. Russia gives up nothing here.

Try again.

Oh. You want victory. I thought you wanted peace.  You can’t have your victory, obviously.  So what are you prepared to do? 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,196]

4 minutes ago, GobbleDog said:

I have no idea. My guess would be Russia first, and second a pro-Ukraine group. There's talk of Poland, other NATO countries, and even the U.S., but those suspects seems highly improbable.

I sure as hell hope the U.S. didn't have anything to do with it. I didn't vote for Biden and don't love some domestic policies, but I don't believe he'd do that. The U.S. makes mistakes occasionally (usually with good intentions), but terrorism?  I don't believe it.

Russia blew up its own pipeline? They didn’t want to sell gas anymore? 

[Pimpadeaux 2,405]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

Oh. You want victory. I thought you wanted peace.  You can’t have your victory, obviously.  So what are you prepared to do? 

No deflection. I'd love for Ukraine to give up some turf in exchange for peace, but they're not going to do it, any more than we'd give up a piece of nation if someone attacked and held it. 

Keep trying. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,196]

Just now, Pimpadeaux said:

No deflection. I'd love for Ukraine to give up some turf in exchange for peace, but they're not going to do it, any more than we'd give up a piece of nation if someone attacked and held it. 

Keep trying. 

Then the war continues. But if you were in charge, what would you do to stop the war? Send in the troops? 

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6 hours ago, Pimpadeaux said:

No deflection. I'd love for Ukraine to give up some turf in exchange for peace, but they're not going to do it, any more than we'd give up a piece of nation if someone attacked and held it. 

Keep trying. 

This isn't Ukraine's war, it's ours. Until you accept that, you'll never understand what's happening. 

[GobbleDog 989]

15 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Russia blew up its own pipeline? They didn’t want to sell gas anymore? 

It's strange, but the theory is Russia mainly wanted to provoke pre-winter panic in Europe. The pipeline was shut down for a month prior to the explosion anyway because Russia said there were technical issues, the EU said that was a lie. Also Nord Stream 2 pipelines had never been used and immediately after the attack, Russia's energy minister offered Europe to get that pipeline up and running, which was declined. Putin also said the attack showed "any infrastructure in transport, energy or communication is under threat - regardless of where it's located" - which to some sounded like veiled threat.

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[Mr Fantasy 67]

Sensitive American nuclear technology 

 

 

[GobbleDog 989]

2 hours ago, Mr Fantasy said:

Sensitive American nuclear technology

"Sensitive American nuclear technology" ... meaning power plant equipment or nuclear weapons as Tucker preaches?

What's so secrete about technology in a nuclear power plant?  Nearly every country can run a nuke plant. Can't be too sensitive, they let the Ukrainians handle it.

On the flip side... nuclear weapons inside a power plant?  Does that mean building nukes or launching nukes?  Either way, seems far fetched for the US to do that there and let Ukrainians handle it.

Most likely nobody wants Russians running a nuke plant on Ukraine soil which could easily turn into an "accidental" bomb.

[seafoam1 2,891]

3 minutes ago, GobbleDog said:

"Sensitive American nuclear technology" ... meaning power plant equipment or nuclear weapons as Tucker preaches?

What's so secrete about technology in a nuclear power plant?  Nearly every country can run a nuke plant. Can't be too sensitive, they let the Ukrainians handle it.

On the flip side... nuclear weapons inside a power plant?  Does that mean building nukes or launching nukes?  Either way, seems far fetched for the US to do that there and let Ukrainians handle it.

Most likely nobody wants Russians running a nuke plant on Ukraine soil which could easily turn into an "accidental" bomb.

Go ask whatever tranny joe put in as head of nuclear energy if you have questions. Be warned though, joe is batting .000 on all of his appointments so far. 

[Voltaire 5,279]

8 hours ago, seafoam1 said:

Go ask whatever tranny joe put in as head of nuclear energy if you have questions. Be warned though, joe is batting .000 on all of his appointments so far. 

He got fired for stealing women's suitcases at the airport but is avoiding prison time despite being a serial offender. https://nypost.com/2023/04/19/sam-brinton-to-undergo-mental-health-evaluation/

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[Hardcore troubadour 15,196]

On 4/19/2023 at 10:51 PM, GobbleDog said:

"Sensitive American nuclear technology" ... meaning power plant equipment or nuclear weapons as Tucker preaches?

What's so secrete about technology in a nuclear power plant?  Nearly every country can run a nuke plant. Can't be too sensitive, they let the Ukrainians handle it.

On the flip side... nuclear weapons inside a power plant?  Does that mean building nukes or launching nukes?  Either way, seems far fetched for the US to do that there and let Ukrainians handle it.

Most likely nobody wants Russians running a nuke plant on Ukraine soil which could easily turn into an "accidental" bomb.

Well, it’s the Biden regime that said it was sensitive.  Are you saying they aren’t being honest? 

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[JustinCharge 2,397]

1.  Russia made some pretty strong advances in Bakhmut in the last 24 hours and controls most of the city.  
2.  Still waiting on the Ukraine Counteroffensive, supposedly on Crimea.  Citizens are evacuating Crimea.
3.  Rumor is that Ukraine was going to stage some sort of massive drone attack on Moscow but was talked out of it ... who knows.

[GobbleDog 989]

On 4/21/2023 at 2:41 PM, Hardcore troubadour said:

Well, it’s the Biden regime that said it was sensitive.  Are you saying they aren’t being honest? 

"Sensitive equipment" -vs- "We won't let Russians weaponize a potential nuclear catastrophe."

The world accepts that little white lie.

[GobbleDog 989]

6 hours ago, JustinCharge said:

1.  Russia made some pretty strong advances in Bakhmut in the last 24 hours and controls most of the city.  
2.  Still waiting on the Ukraine Counteroffensive, supposedly on Crimea.  Citizens are evacuating Crimea.
3.  Rumor is that Ukraine was going to stage some sort of massive drone attack on Moscow but was talked out of it ... who knows.

Seriously doubt they'd actually attack Moscow and risk weakening Western support. But that counter-offensive could start any second now, or not for another month or two. Suspense on both sides as it's about to get a lot bloodier.

Ukraine is pushing in all their chips. If the counter doesn't achieve amazing results, western support may falter ending any chance of re-annexing Crimea, and perhaps Donbass. A short-term tie still is a Ukraine loss.

I think Russia's goal now is to weather the storm and hang on a few years.  See who's U.S. President next and how the West feels about funding an old war with little results.

[Pimpadeaux 2,405]

13 minutes ago, GobbleDog said:

Seriously doubt they'd actually attack Moscow and risk weakening Western support. But that counter-offensive could start any second now, or not for another month or two. Suspense on both sides as it's about to get a lot bloodier.

Ukraine is pushing in all their chips. If the counter doesn't achieve amazing results, western support may falter ending any chance of re-annexing Crimea, and perhaps Donbass. A short-term tie still is a Ukraine loss.

I think Russia's goal now is to weather the storm and hang on a few years.  See who's U.S. President next and how the West feels about funding an old war with little results.

You're one of the few here whose insight for which I hit F5. I don't believe Russia wins the weather-the-storm thing, though. NATO is at a crossroads with this Russian aggresion, for which this crisis exist in the first place. We're not exactly suffering for what we've provided Ukraine. This is an ideological fight I'm of the opinion is critical for us to win. Expanionsim needs to be a thing of the past, and how about we just say let's just work together to not fock up the planet. Geebus.

[seafoam1 2,891]

pimpledoosh's biggest fear is that a conservative gets into the White House in 2024 and fixes biden's mess up of Ukraine by being tough on Russia and showing what it's like to be a real world leader while biden continues wandering in circles drooling and touching little girls.

 

 

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[Hardcore troubadour 15,196]

So noble and brave of Biden to say “ as long as it takes”.  Easy for him to live through. 

[Pimpadeaux 2,405]

18 hours ago, seafoam1 said:

pimpledoosh's biggest fear is that a conservative gets into the White House in 2024 and fixes biden's mess up of Ukraine by being tough on Russia and showing what it's like to be a real world leader while biden continues wandering in circles drooling and touching little girls.

 

 

RENT FREE!

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[seafoam1 2,891]

1 hour ago, Pimpadeaux said:

RENT FREE!

Oh, good one. 

Doesn't change the fact:

pimpledoosh's biggest fear is that a conservative gets into the White House in 2024 and fixes biden's mess up of Ukraine by being tough on Russia and showing what it's like to be a real world leader while biden continues wandering in circles drooling and touching little girls.

[Pimpadeaux 2,405]

1 hour ago, seafoam1 said:

Oh, good one. 

Doesn't change the fact:

pimpledoosh's biggest fear is that a conservative gets into the White House in 2024 and fixes biden's mess up of Ukraine by being tough on Russia and showing what it's like to be a real world leader while biden continues wandering in circles drooling and touching little girls.

Keep repeating yourself, seachoad. 

[seafoam1 2,891]

1 hour ago, Pimpadeaux said:

Keep repeating yourself, seachoad. 

Will do generalpimpledoosh.

pimpledoosh's biggest fear is that a conservative gets into the White House in 2024 and fixes biden's mess up of Ukraine by being tough on Russia and showing what it's like to be a real world leader while biden continues wandering in circles drooling and touching little girls.

[Pimpadeaux 2,405]

1 minute ago, seafoam1 said:

Will do generalpimpledoosh.

pimpledoosh's biggest fear is that a conservative gets into the White House in 2024 and fixes biden's mess up of Ukraine by being tough on Russia and showing what it's like to be a real world leader while biden continues wandering in circles drooling and touching little girls.

seachoad gonna seachoad.

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9 hours ago, Pimpadeaux said:

seachoad gonna seachoad.

 

  LIGHT A CANDLE FOR UKRAINE 

[Pimpadeaux 2,405]

Wagner founder says his group is close to kaput.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russias-wagner-group-could-soon-cease-exist-founder-tells-blogger-2023-04-28/

 

[League Champion 1,909]

1 minute ago, Pimpadeaux said:

Wagner founder says his group is close to kaput.

LIGHT A CANDLE FOR UKRAINE

I think if we send them 500 billion more dollars they'll be just fine. 

[Gepetto 1,340]

Ukraine attacks Crimea 

Ukrainian drones hit oil depot in Crimea, Russian official says (msn.com)

[GobbleDog 989]

2 hours ago, Gepetto said:

Ukraine attacks Crimea 

Ukrainian drones hit oil depot in Crimea, Russian official says (msn.com)

Sevastopol, south Crimea. 140+ miles from Ukraine front. Supposedly both water and air drones.

"Ukrainian uncrewed surface vessel (USV) and aerial drone attack." 

Ukraine can attack big from big distance. No idea the military significance of that depot, but I wonder about the start of the spring offensive whenever I see war news now.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,196]

Americans enjoy being lied to it seems. 

[GobbleDog 989]

20 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Americans enjoy being lied to it seems. 

"A Russia-appointed official in Crimea says a massive fire erupted at an oil depot there after it was hit by two Ukrainian drones..."

"Ukraine’s Defense Intelligence called the fire “God’s punishment,” particularly for the civilians killed in the Ukrainian city of Uman, where a Russian strike Friday left at least 23 people dead..."

Both sides admit and it's being covered by every major news station around the world. What lie?

[Hardcore troubadour 15,196]

2 hours ago, GobbleDog said:

"A Russia-appointed official in Crimea says a massive fire erupted at an oil depot there after it was hit by two Ukrainian drones..."

"Ukraine’s Defense Intelligence called the fire “God’s punishment,” particularly for the civilians killed in the Ukrainian city of Uman, where a Russian strike Friday left at least 23 people dead..."

Both sides admit and it's being covered by every major news station around the world. What lie?

Sorry.  I was talking about our government. But please, continue to root for a side in a conflict that will never be decided on the battlefield.  What a waste.  

[seafoam1 2,891]

Ukraine getting their asses kicked with no end in sight. Keep sending American money Joe, this country has no problems of it's own to take care of.