Ukraine - Doomsday

[Pimpadeaux 2,404]

2 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

here's where I go back to my original point, of I don't give a flying fock about Ukraine, Nato, Russia or any other country

 

Ignorance is bliss, but isolationism has never worked in our country's history. We wind up involved in something worse than if we'd nipped it in the bud early on. The last thing the United States and the world needs is a power- and land-hungry Russia putting the U.S.S.R. back together and igniting a world war that you'll be whining about and blindly blaming anyone but MAGAnazis for skyrocketing gas and grocery prices.

[The Real timschochet 6,416]

2 hours ago, League Champion said:

NEWS FLASH: Innocent civilians get killed in War, ANY WAR. 

One of the ways to distinguish right and wrong in modern history is to divide societies by those who kill innocent civilians as unintended casualties of war, and those who kill innocent civilians deliberately. Only the latter is an evil act. 
 

Some examples: the Japanese rape of Nanking was an evil act. The United States bombing Hiroshima was not an evil act. What Hamas did on Oct. 7 was an evil act. Israel’s retaliation in Gaza is not an evil act. 
 

What Putin has done in Ukraine is an evil act. If you consider yourself to be a moral person there really is no other way to look at this. 

[Pimpadeaux 2,404]

5 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

One of the ways to distinguish right and wrong in modern history is to divide societies by those who kill innocent civilians as unintended casualties of war, and those who kill innocent civilians deliberately. Only the latter is an evil act. 
 

Some examples: the Japanese rape of Nanking was an evil act. The United States bombing Hiroshima was not an evil act. What Hamas did on Oct. 7 was an evil act. Israel’s retaliation in Gaza is not an evil act. 
 

What Putin has done in Ukraine is an evil act. If you consider yourself to be a moral person there really is no other way to look at this. 

MAGAnazis' inability to process the deep worldwide consequences of a Russian victory remains puzzling. They saw it for themselves with high gas prices, yet they blamed a president who didn't cause the soaring prices but actually did things to bring them down. Yet the MAGAnazi whines, whines and whines, because they take dysfunctional comfort in whining.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,933]

14 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

One of the ways to distinguish right and wrong in modern history is to divide societies by those who kill innocent civilians as unintended casualties of war, and those who kill innocent civilians deliberately. Only the latter is an evil act. 
 

Some examples: the Japanese rape of Nanking was an evil act. The United States bombing Hiroshima was not an evil act. What Hamas did on Oct. 7 was an evil act. Israel’s retaliation in Gaza is not an evil act. 
 

What Putin has done in Ukraine is an evil act. If you consider yourself to be a moral person there really is no other way to look at this. 

Ukraine bombed their own people prior to Russia invading. Thoughts? 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,237]

1 hour ago, Pimpadeaux said:

Ignorance is bliss, but isolationism has never worked in our country's history. We wind up involved in something worse than if we'd nipped it in the bud early on. The last thing the United States and the world needs is a power- and land-hungry Russia putting the U.S.S.R. back together and igniting a world war that you'll be whining about and blindly blaming anyone but MAGAnazis for skyrocketing gas and grocery prices.

socialism and communism has never worked either but you dummies keep voting for it

and I would only cry cause dumb dumbs decided to make us not net exporters in energy, but hey keep it up

 

[GobbleDog 984]

Every military around the world is watching the Ukraine war. 

One big lesson...  high-tech tanks costing $5+ mil (plus crew training) are being destroyed by $500 drones. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,933]

Update?

[seafoam1 2,799]

On 12/26/2023 at 9:08 PM, Pimpadeaux said:

MAGAnazis' inability to process the deep worldwide consequences of a Russian victory remains puzzling. They saw it for themselves with high gas prices, yet they blamed a president who didn't cause the soaring prices but actually did things to bring them down. Yet the MAGAnazi whines, whines and whines, because they take dysfunctional comfort in whining.

What an idiot. 

[GobbleDog 984]

Wonder if Putin has the guts to visit the front lines and award medals to troops brandishing machine guns? 

[seafoam1 2,799]

2 minutes ago, GobbleDog said:

Wonder if Putin has the guts to visit the front lines and award medals to troops brandishing machine guns? 

Wondering if Zelensky has the guts to admit his country is the human trafficking nation of the world.

[GobbleDog 984]

1 hour ago, seafoam1 said:

Wondering if Zelensky has the guts to admit his country is the human trafficking nation of the world.

You can't give him props for going to the front line and doing that?  Human trafficking? What does that have to do with anything?

Ya know I've never seen you post anything interesting. Not once. And you post a lot. Even an idiot gets lucky once in a while, but not you. I've never blocked anyone on this site in 20+ years here and I've read a lot of crap, but nothing you post is ever worth reading.  Later kid. 

[Pimpadeaux 2,404]

34 minutes ago, GobbleDog said:

You can't give him props for going to the front line and doing that?  Human trafficking? What does that have to do with anything?

Ya know I've never seen you post anything interesting. Not once. And you post a lot. Even an idiot gets lucky once in a while, but not you. I've never blocked anyone on this site in 20+ years here and I've read a lot of crap, but nothing you post is ever worth reading.  Later kid. 

Hence his status as WOAT at the Geek Club. 

Ukraine is anything but the world's most egregious human-trafficking country, but Russia is pretty high up on the list.

He could learn this with a simple Google search, but he clings to his childish, ignorant mindset like a crab on a fish carcass.

This place was so much better during his recent suspension, or whatever that was. 

He's as useless as teets on a grasshopper.

[seafoam1 2,799]

5 hours ago, GobbleDog said:

You can't give him props for going to the front line and doing that?  Human trafficking? What does that have to do with anything?

Ya know I've never seen you post anything interesting. Not once. And you post a lot. Even an idiot gets lucky once in a while, but not you. I've never blocked anyone on this site in 20+ years here and I've read a lot of crap, but nothing you post is ever worth reading.  Later kid. 

20+ years of nothing from you corky.  

Keep sending your money (the little you have) to zelensky's bank account Bozo. Good for you. 

[seafoam1 2,799]

4 hours ago, Pimpadeaux said:

Hence his status as WOAT at the Geek Club. 

Ukraine is anything but the world's most egregious human-trafficking country, but Russia is pretty high up on the list.

He could learn this with a simple Google search, but he clings to his childish, ignorant mindset like a crab on a fish carcass.

This place was so much better during his recent suspension, or whatever that was. 

He's as useless as teets on a grasshopper.

Get your facts straight peanut. Then try again. 

[Pimpadeaux 2,404]

Zelensky invites Clownzo to come end the war like he said he would.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/zelensky-invites-trump-ukraine-013500430.html

DO EET, CLOWNZO!

[IGotWorms 4,057]

We’re donezo. Ceding Ukraine to Russia. Taiwan already seeing they can’t rely on us as allies, Europe, Japan etc will draw the same conclusion. Why wouldn’t you shift away from US alliance and towards China? Might have to hold your nose but that’s what you’re gonna do 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,933]

2 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

We’re donezo. Ceding Ukraine to Russia. Taiwan already seeing they can’t rely on us as allies, Europe, Japan etc will draw the same conclusion. Why wouldn’t you shift away from US alliance and towards China? Might have to hold your nose but that’s what you’re gonna do 

So Russia is the evil of the earth, but we should make friends with China. I thought this was all about democracy? 

[seafoam1 2,799]

4 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

We’re donezo. Ceding Ukraine to Russia. Taiwan already seeing they can’t rely on us as allies, Europe, Japan etc will draw the same conclusion. Why wouldn’t you shift away from US alliance and towards China? Might have to hold your nose but that’s what you’re gonna do 

So biden failed at everything he tried to do. Including here at home. 

I agree. 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,237]

5 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

We’re donezo. Ceding Ukraine to Russia. Taiwan already seeing they can’t rely on us as allies, Europe, Japan etc will draw the same conclusion. Why wouldn’t you shift away from US alliance and towards China? Might have to hold your nose but that’s what you’re gonna do 

https://www.reuters.com/world/biden-us-does-not-support-taiwan-independence-2024-01-13/#:~:text=WASHINGTON%2C Jan 13 (Reuters),party a third presidential term.

maybe you should worry about what your president is doing rather than Trump

 

[Cdub100 3,838]

The world is about to learn what the saying, "Weak men make hard times" actually means.

[IGotWorms 4,057]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

So Russia is the evil of the earth, but we should make friends with China. I thought this was all about democracy? 

No, dumbass, we should not make friends with China. We should stand up to them, but since we won’t even stand up to their flunky friends the Russians, it ain’t looking pretty

https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-china-brink-military-alliance-may-overwhelm-us-putin-xi-2023-12?amp

[IGotWorms 4,057]

1 minute ago, seafoam1 said:

So biden failed at everything he tried to do. Including here at home. 

I agree. 

No, Biden did the right thing. You MAGAtards sabotaged democracy to give a gift to Putin, because he’s Trump’s butt buddy

[Hardcore troubadour 14,933]

Just now, IGotWorms said:

No, Biden did the right thing. You MAGAtards sabotaged democracy to give a gift to Putin, because he’s Trump’s butt buddy

How? 

[seafoam1 2,799]

2 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

No, Biden did the right thing. You MAGAtards sabotaged democracy to give a gift to Putin, because he’s Trump’s butt buddy

Why do you think continuously calling everyone you disagree with a "MAGAtard" is a good way to make a bad point?

[IGotWorms 4,057]

4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

How? 

Cutting off vital military aid. You know full well that kneecaps Ukraine.

I don’t think you fully understand the stakes though. You perceive it as somehow helpful to Trump and you don’t care about Ukraine, but it goes much further than that 

[IGotWorms 4,057]

3 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

Why do you think continuously calling everyone you disagree with a "MAGAtard" is a good way to make a bad point?

This one has MAGA all over it

[Hardcore troubadour 14,933]

11 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Cutting off vital military aid. You know full well that kneecaps Ukraine.

I don’t think you fully understand the stakes though. You perceive it as somehow helpful to Trump and you don’t care about Ukraine, but it goes much further than that 

 No aid has been cut off. It’s still being negotiated. They still have plenty of money to spend. Have the nato countries cut off aid too? They’re gonna get their money. Biden needs to negotiate. That’s how it works. It’s not a monarchy. 

[IGotWorms 4,057]

4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

 No aid has been cut off. It’s still being negotiated. They still have plenty of money to spend. Have the nato countries cut off aid too? They’re gonna get their money. Biden needs to negotiate. That’s how it works. It’s not a monarchy. 

So you think it’s posturing and that it will get done.

I don’t think it will. I believe they mean what they say.

Posturing alone is bad enough, we should not be playing a game of chicken with US national security interests and destroying faith in our global leadership in the process. That is very dangerous.

But like I said, I don’t think it even stops there. I’m not sure you fully comprehend the danger of what you’ve sided with 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,933]

4 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

So you think it’s posturing and that it will get done.

I don’t think it will. I believe they mean what they say.

Posturing alone is bad enough, we should not be playing a game of chicken with US national security interests and destroying faith in our global leadership in the process. That is very dangerous.

But like I said, I don’t think it even stops there. I’m not sure you fully comprehend the danger of what you’ve sided with 

Anything is possible. But I’m confident Ukraine will get their funding. I haven’t sided with anyone. I’ve been quite clear that I think there are no good guys here. 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,237]

29 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

No, Biden did the right thing. You MAGAtards sabotaged democracy to give a gift to Putin, because he’s Trump’s butt buddy

where did we sabotage democracy?  If you are referring to the overthrow that Obama and Biden were part of in Ukraine I might agree with you

 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,237]

23 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Cutting off vital military aid. You know full well that kneecaps Ukraine.

I don’t think you fully understand the stakes though. You perceive it as somehow helpful to Trump and you don’t care about Ukraine, but it goes much further than that 

why is Ukraine our issue?  And before you act all stupid Tim level, where is Israel our issue, I am against all funding, Allies or not, but moreso non allies, especially when we start the chaos that has insued

 

[IGotWorms 4,057]

6 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Anything is possible. But I’m confident Ukraine will get their funding. I haven’t sided with anyone. I’ve been quite clear that I think there are no good guys here. 

That’s where you are mostly wrong. There may not be good guys (it’s rarely that easy), but there are much worse guys and much bigger threats. And that’s Putin, Xi, and the Russia/China anti-western alliance 

[IGotWorms 4,057]

6 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

why is Ukraine our issue?  And before you act all stupid Tim level, where is Israel our issue, I am against all funding, Allies or not, but moreso non allies, especially when we start the chaos that has insued

 

Yes, I get it, you want to cede US world leadership and see what happens when China is running the show. That is a terrible focking idea though I do agree that you do at least seem to be mostly consistent on that stance 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,933]

1 minute ago, IGotWorms said:

That’s where you are mostly wrong. There may not be good guys (it’s rarely that easy), but there are much worse guys and much bigger threats. And that’s Putin, Xi, and the Russia/China anti-western alliance 

This conflict has pushed Russia into Chinas arms. Who do you think is buying all their oil? At a discount? 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,237]

1 minute ago, IGotWorms said:

Yes, I get it, you want to cede US world leadership and see what happens when China is running the show. That is a terrible focking idea though I do agree that you do at least seem to be mostly consistent on that stance 

I am all for it, when our own house is ok, but it isn't.  China is already running the show

[Hardcore troubadour 14,933]

4 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

That’s where you are mostly wrong. There may not be good guys (it’s rarely that easy), but there are much worse guys and much bigger threats. And that’s Putin, Xi, and the Russia/China anti-western alliance 

I think Taiwan  are good guys. I’d support helping them. 

[IGotWorms 4,057]

6 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

I am all for it, when our own house is ok, but it isn't.  China is already running the show

So you’re waving the white flag

[IGotWorms 4,057]

8 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

This conflict has pushed Russia into Chinas arms. Who do you think is buying all their oil? At a discount? 

And the answer is/was…? You act like Ukraine invaded Russia and not the other way around 

[seafoam1 2,799]

15 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

And the answer is/was…? You act like Ukraine invaded Russia and not the other way around 

Ukraine is one of the biggest human trafficking countries on the planet. Another word for human trafficking is slavery. They are right up there with Africa. 

Who cares about Ukraine as long as the rest of East Europe takes care of their own? They could make it hell for Russia if they actually wanted to participate in doing so. And what the heck is the rest of Europe doing? 

Why the US is sending so much money and supplies there makes no sense. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,933]

11 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

And the answer is/was…? You act like Ukraine invaded Russia and not the other way around 

And you act like Russia didn’t warn our neocons to back off.