Boom! Disney getting canceled 🤣😅

[Shooter McGavin 618]

3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

How can I win if you can never lose? And dumb dumb, I’m not that much older than you. But much, much wiser. Experience =wisdom.  You don’t get much in a cubicle. 

Yes you're much, much wiser, you spend your retired days arguing with people on a lightly trafficked FF message board.  So wise.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

4 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said:

Yes you're much, much wiser, you spend your retired days arguing with people on a lightly trafficked FF message board.  So wise.

Semi retired. I have a lot of time on my hands at work. I did the hard stuff already, I didn’t spend those years here like you.  You keep on trucking though, spending your earning years arguing on multiple message boards. 

[TimHauck 2,931]

10 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Amazon is laying off 10,000 people.  

It’s because they went woke too, duh

[Voltaire 5,322]

This isn't the Disney we grew up with and I'm glad they're losing money because they are actively promoting the LGBTQ agenda to kids.

We can speculate as to why. I hope that it's because they went woke, which means they'll have to course correct or continue to lose money. It's not unreasonable to think that it's because people are tightening their belts due to the economy. If' that's the primary driver, then they'll be able to continue on the course they're on and recover when thing improve.

All I can control is my own spending. They won't be seeing a penny from my household any time soon and I encourage others who feel the same to likewise deprive them.

 

[Hawkeye21 2,404]

51 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

This isn't the Disney we grew up with and I'm glad they're losing money because they are actively promoting the LGBTQ agenda to kids.

We can speculate as to why. I hope that it's because they went woke, which means they'll have to course correct or continue to lose money. It's not unreasonable to think that it's because people are tightening their belts due to the economy. If' that's the primary driver, then they'll be able to continue on the course they're on and recover when thing improve.

All I can control is my own spending. They won't be seeing a penny from my household any time soon and I encourage others who feel the same to likewise deprive them.

 

They have awesome series and movies.  I'm not letting stupid crap like that determine what I watch.

[Raven Fan 362]

53 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

This isn't the Disney we grew up with and I'm glad they're losing money because they are actively promoting the LGBTQ agenda to kids.

We can speculate as to why. I hope that it's because they went woke, which means they'll have to course correct or continue to lose money. It's not unreasonable to think that it's because people are tightening their belts due to the economy. If' that's the primary driver, then they'll be able to continue on the course they're on and recover when thing improve.

All I can control is my own spending. They won't be seeing a penny from my household any time soon and I encourage others who feel the same to likewise deprive them.

 

What is the LGBTQ agenda and how are they promoting it?  Are you suggesting they're trying to turn kids into LGBTQ?  Wouldn't that go against their business model though as much of their income is generated by parents dragging their kids around.  And more LGBTQ means fewer kids.  Why would they work against themselves? 

Unless you mean having the audacity to actually acknowledge that some people are gay that is somehow promoting an agenda? 

[Hawkeye21 2,404]

2 minutes ago, Raven Fan said:

And more LGBTQ means fewer kids.

Someone needs to adopt the babies that are going to be forced to be born.

[Voltaire 5,322]

10 minutes ago, Raven Fan said:

What is the LGBTQ agenda and how are they promoting it?  Are you suggesting they're trying to turn kids into LGBTQ?  Wouldn't that go against their business model though as much of their income is generated by parents dragging their kids around.  And more LGBTQ means fewer kids.  Why would they work against themselves? 

Unless you mean having the audacity to actually acknowledge that some people are gay that is somehow promoting an agenda? 

There were plenty of clips released from this meeting a few months back where Disney executives one after the other praised the LGBTQ agenda, the one I tImestamped for you at 0:54 being the most egregious but it wasn't just this lady and it's clear they all buy in. I've paused this five minute video at the 1:40 mark, hopefully the next three minutes add to it.

[Voltaire 5,322]

 

21 minutes ago, Raven Fan said:

What is the LGBTQ agenda and how are they promoting it?  Are you suggesting they're trying to turn kids into LGBTQ?  Wouldn't that go against their business model though as much of their income is generated by parents dragging their kids around.  And more LGBTQ means fewer kids.  Why would they work against themselves? 

Unless you mean having the audacity to actually acknowledge that some people are gay that is somehow promoting an agenda? 

 

 

Here's more Disney executives, one after the other, explaining their position in their own words.

[Reality 3,121]

16 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

There were plenty of clips released from this meeting a few months back where Disney executives one after the other praised the LGBTQ agenda, the one I tImestamped for you at 0:54 being the most egregious but it wasn't just this lady and it's clear they all buy in. I've paused this five minute video at the 1:40 mark, hopefully the next three minutes add to it.

8 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

 

 

 

Here's more Disney executives, one after the other, explaining their position in their own words.

Well, besides that. What proof ya got?

 

[Raven Fan 362]

So what's Disney's endgame doyathink?  Just go straight LGBTQ from now on?  Where do you see them going?

[RLLD 4,256]

20 minutes ago, Raven Fan said:

So what's Disney's endgame doyathink?  Just go straight LGBTQ from now on?  Where do you see them going?

If history suggests, thinking back to Gillette, they may at least stop pounding their chest and perhaps more quietly subvert society.

BUT....I rather doubt that their issues are an outcome of their support for the mentally disabled.  A uni-varied analysis is never accurate. 

I would think that while their misplaced actions around the disabled are perhaps some contributor, it is likely true that it is small. A far bigger influence is going to be cost.

Inflation is crushing a number of people and industries.  A trip to Disney is likely one of the first things you take out of your family budget.  Sadly, the President has already asserted no changes and he plans to maintain his speed toward the iceberg, so the troubles for Disney are likely to continue into the next year at least. 

[Shooter McGavin 618]

1 hour ago, Raven Fan said:

What is the LGBTQ agenda and how are they promoting it?  Are you suggesting they're trying to turn kids into LGBTQ?  Wouldn't that go against their business model though as much of their income is generated by parents dragging their kids around.  And more LGBTQ means fewer kids.  Why would they work against themselves? 

Unless you mean having the audacity to actually acknowledge that some people are gay that is somehow promoting an agenda? 

Voltaire has a history of fear and hatred for gays.  He's scared that if his kids see gay people, then they will turn gay, then he'll have to beat the gay out them, and he doesn't want to do that.

[Voltaire 5,322]

1 hour ago, Raven Fan said:

So what's Disney's endgame doyathink?  Just go straight LGBTQ from now on?  Where do you see them going?

For the short term future, I think so. The same people are in charge which means that the same policies will be in place for a while. Sure they had a bad quarter, but a lot of companies did. It's also not clear to us that it was embracing woke which cost them the revenue lost or just the broader malaise of a slumping economy where entertainment expenses get cut back. It's their business in which they have paid analysts with a finger on the company's pulse, trying to figure out what went wrong. They ought to know better than people with anecdotal evidence that poke their nose in for five minutes every three months and think they know what is going on. 

They aren't changing anything from what I can tell, so it looks like they're choosing to continue riding the woke horse. If that offends folks: boycott. Don't give them your money. If it doesn't, feel free to consume as much content as suits your budget and let them figure out where to go from here.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

It’s not their endgame. It’s people in positions of power imposing their ideology and no one will stop them for fear of being labeled. The ones imposing it care more about their movement than profits. Pretty simple. 

[Shooter McGavin 618]

2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

It’s not their endgame. It’s people in positions of power imposing their ideology and no one will stop them for fear of being labeled. The ones imposing it care more about their movement than profits. Pretty simple. 

So the only reason to not oppose LGBTQ people is because you don't want to be called a bigot?  Brave people like you have no problem being called a bigot?

[Shooter McGavin 618]

The only reason we don't have countless murders is because people are scared to be labeled a murderer 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

23 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said:

So the only reason to not oppose LGBTQ people is because you don't want to be called a bigot?  Brave people like you have no problem being called a bigot?

Ok, let’s dispense with the vitriol for a little bit. When the people in charge of the programming got to the level where they would be making the decisions, do you think that they considered that going this route would hurt the bottom line? 

[Hawkeye21 2,404]

Looks like the movie industry has to make two different versions of their films now.  One than is inclusive for the LGBTQ community and one for all the people are offended by it.

[Shooter McGavin 618]

23 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Ok, let’s dispense with the vitriol for a little bit. When the people in charge of the programming got to the level where they would be making the decisions, do you think that they considered that going this route would hurt the bottom line? 

I have no idea, maybe?  Maybe they thought it would help too.  Maybe they were just scared to be called a name.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

6 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said:

I have no idea, maybe?  Maybe they thought it would help too.  Maybe they were just scared to be called a name.

They weren’t afraid of being labeled. The ones who would point out that this would cost them profits were.  So they stayed silent. So you really think the ones that injected the lgbtq agenda into the programming didn’t know it would cost, but they did it anyway because they thought it was the right thing to do? 

[Shooter McGavin 618]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

They weren’t afraid of being labeled. The ones who would point out that this would cost them profits were.  So they stayed silent. So you really think the ones that injected the lgbtq agenda into the programming didn’t know it would cost, but they did it anyway because they thought it was the right thing to do? 

We don't know how it has impacted them financially, it probably hasn't.  I don't know what goes on in those meetings, neither do you.  This mall cop line of questioning is stupid 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

3 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said:

We don't know how it has impacted them financially, it probably hasn't.  I don't know what goes on in those meetings, neither do you.  This mall cop line of questioning is stupid 

See, I asked to dispense worth the vitriol for a little bit and you couldn’t do it. And it most definitely has. When many of your products are out of the biggest market in the world that hurts the bottom line. Continue being a scumbag, scum bag. 

[Shooter McGavin 618]

11 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

See, I asked to dispense worth the vitriol for a little bit and you couldn’t do it. And it most definitely has. When many of your products are out of the biggest market in the world that hurts the bottom line. Continue being a scumbag, scum bag. 

Why are you so scared of gay people?

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

1 minute ago, Shooter McGavin said:

Why are you so scared of gay people?

I’m not. From the beginning it’s been about business. I have contended that going woke cost them money. And it has. I never said they were going broke. That’s impossible. Why would I be scared of gay people?  And this coming from a guy that has spewed homophobic hate speech on this site. Hypocrite much? 

[Voltaire 5,322]

12 hours ago, Hawkeye21 said:

They have awesome series and movies.  I'm not letting stupid crap like that determine what I watch.

 Since you enjoy indoctrinating your young children with LBGTQ crap deliberately inserted into exciting new Disney movies for no reason, I have the perfect movie for you opening next week. The trailer seems like a lot of fun but we won't be seeing it.

https://archive.ph/ks9AF

They've told us well in advance that they were going to do it and that they're doing it deliberately. Put on your helmet for if/when your kids start questioning their gender because that's on you.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

11 hours ago, Hawkeye21 said:

They have awesome series and movies.  I'm not letting stupid crap like that determine what I watch.

What’s your favorites?

[Raven Fan 362]

Disney raising prices again.  Weird how this failing company is so damn busy that they can just raise prices constantly.

I guess go woke, experience massive crowds and raise prices?  Doesn't exactly roll off the tongue does it?

[Voltaire 5,322]

26 minutes ago, Raven Fan said:

Disney raising prices again.  Weird how this failing company is so damn busy that they can just raise prices constantly.

I guess go woke, experience massive crowds and raise prices?  Doesn't exactly roll off the tongue does it?

I don't pay enough attention to know if you're right or not about raising prices, but companies are always going to be on the hunt for finding the equilibrium balance between price and demand that will net them the most profit.

It's true that ECON 101 teaches us that rising prices indicates rising demand. It's also true that they lost market shares to the lowest value is years and last week they announced that they are laying off lots of staff, implementing a hiring freeze and limiting corporate travel... so somewhere in there is the truth.

 

[Hawkeye21 2,404]

40 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

What’s your favorites?

I like almost all the Marvel and Star Wars movies. The Mandalorian series is awesome. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

2 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

I like almost all the Marvel and Star Wars movies. The Mandalorian series is awesome. 

That’s the superhero and spaceman stuff? 

[Hawkeye21 2,404]

3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

That’s the superhero and spaceman stuff? 

Why do you even comment on this stuff? You obviously don’t know much about it. 

[Shooter McGavin 618]

18 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Why do you even comment on this stuff? You obviously don’t know much about it. 

He's trying to make fun of you.

[RLLD 4,256]

1 hour ago, Raven Fan said:

Disney raising prices again.  Weird how this failing company is so damn busy that they can just raise prices constantly.

I guess go woke, experience massive crowds and raise prices?  Doesn't exactly roll off the tongue does it?

I would not presume that raising prices is a sign of success.

If it is true that patronization of the parks is flagging then the laws of supply/demand kick in. The costs are still there, but the patrons are not so the prices must rise to keep pace with the costs.  Those who can afford to go will now have to pay more as they seek to close the gap. 

[Hawkeye21 2,404]

1 hour ago, Shooter McGavin said:

He's trying to make fun of you.

It didn’t work though. It’s never worked. Also, he’s never watched any of these movies or shows so how can he form an opinion on them?

[Voltaire 5,322]

24 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

It didn’t work though. It’s never worked. Also, he’s never watched any of these movies or shows so how can he form an opinion on them?

I know you're talking about HT, not myself.

I don't know fock all about the Mandalorian and I never will, but I do know that Gina Carano use to be on that show until she got blacklisted for incorrect political thought. It's another reason Disney disgusts me, they inflict LBTQ garbage into places it doesn't belong and they fire actors from roles for having mainstream conservative opinions online. Tim Allen got bumped from being Buzz Lightyear in favor of a more expensive actor for what appears to be the same reason. 

Go ahead and continue giving them your money if this doesn't bother you, just be aware it is going on, that it is what you're funding, and understand there's a reason that a lot of us aren't following suit.

[TimHauck 2,931]

3 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

Tim Allen got bumped from being Buzz Lightyear in favor of a more expensive actor for what appears to be the same reason. 

 

Fake news.  We already had this discussion. Tim Allen was “bumped” for the same reason the movie didn’t perform well - it wasn’t about Buzz Lightyear the toy, it was about Buzz Lightyear the person 

[Hawkeye21 2,404]

5 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

I know you're talking about HT, not myself.

I don't know fock all about the Mandalorian and I never will, but I do know that Gina Carano use to be on that show until she got blacklisted for incorrect political thought. It's another reason Disney disgusts me, they inflict LBTQ garbage into places it doesn't belong and they fire actors from roles for having mainstream conservative opinions online. Tim Allen got bumped from being Buzz Lightyear in favor of a more expensive actor for what appears to be the same reason. 

Go ahead and continue giving them your money if this doesn't bother you, just be aware it is going on, that it is what you're funding, and understand there's a reason that a lot of us aren't following suit.

I hated that they got rid of her and disagreed with it. I can still disagree with them and enjoy the show though. It didn’t make it worse. Not watching the show strictly based on that is just being petty.

The Lightyear movie struggled for numerous reasons. I don’t think woke was the reason. I never watched it and never had much interest in it from the start. The original Toy Story movies can’t be beat. 

[Voltaire 5,322]

7 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Fake news.  We already had this discussion. Tim Allen was “bumped” for the same reason the movie didn’t perform well - it wasn’t about Buzz Lightyear the toy, it was about Buzz Lightyear the person 

If you follow the blinking neon trail, you'll detect a pattern but can believe what you want.

[TimHauck 2,931]

31 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

If you follow the blinking neon trail, you'll detect a pattern but can believe what you want.

Right back at ya