Hardcore troubadour 15,517 Posted November 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Shooter McGavin said: This dude is still clueless Sure. Except you’re one of the clued in ones that’s all over this thread saying Disney is doing great. Remember how you told us the park was packed and that not being able to sell to China was no big deal, the movie turned a profit? Well, the BOD just let you know you don’t know shite. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,256 Posted November 21, 2022 10 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said: The reason I ask is because many of the magatards here claim that Disney is in financial trouble because of woke policies. If you say they are now a buy, then I would think then the woke policies would go away, unless you're not a Magatard, but I'm pretty sure you are... I see, I did not realize you used such simplistic views in terms of investing. In order for your assertion to be correct, the immediate response of the rise in market value would then suggest that most of the investment community is looking only at the silly things they say to pander to special interest groups. I rather doubt this is true. The most telling aspect was the way that the departed leader was addressing the lagging performance. He was more of a complainer than a leader. He whined about season ticket holders and their spending patterns at the parks and how that hurt performance, this was inane.....instead of delivering a plan of how he was going to meet the challenges, he just whined that it was something else he could not control. Investors do not respond well to this behavior. Hence the change and the corresponding positive change as a result of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,517 Posted November 21, 2022 On 6/17/2022 at 9:38 AM, Hardcore troubadour said: “Is Disney losing viewers”. I asked google that. They said yes. Take it up with google. But it’s just so weird in a business that is booming like you all claim their stock has plummeted. Bad enough that shareholders are calling for heads. This guy knew what was up. Gutterboy and the rest of the crew were too busy sky screeching to listen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,984 Posted November 21, 2022 I guess trying to take a victory lap when you are still demonstrably wrong is a choice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,517 Posted November 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: I guess trying to take a victory lap when you are still demonstrably wrong is a choice. Yeah, you can keep saying it all you like. Disney has taken a beating while your crew has repeatedly claimed they are doing great. They didn’t toss the boss because they are doing great. Just the opposite. And the woke crap has hurt their business. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,936 Posted November 21, 2022 57 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: I don't think bringing Iger back is good for Disney. Who do you think brought in all those SJW employees? It wasn't Chapek. All of the sh1tty movies coming out now were green-lit under Iger. Most of the changes at the Disney parks were also Iger. Chapek sorta stood up to the SJW employees and tried to run the company in a natural way. And he actually did well for the bottom line. Sure Chapek was a penny pincher and ruining Disney in his own way. No, this wasn't a win for normal people. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shooter McGavin 618 Posted November 21, 2022 25 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Sure. Except you’re one of the clued in ones that’s all over this thread saying Disney is doing great. Remember how you told us the park was packed and that not being able to sell to China was no big deal, the movie turned a profit? Well, the BOD just let you know you don’t know shite. They were doing great, they told us that with their earnings. And then things took a turn, and they had a bad qtr and bad guidance. Their expenses are too high. Has nothing to do with woke or movies in China. You were proven wrong multiple times, first by saying they lost subscribers and then by saying their revenues would drop, and neither happened. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,517 Posted November 21, 2022 5 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said: They were doing great, they told us that with their earnings. And then things took a turn, and they had a bad qtr and bad guidance. Their expenses are too high. Has nothing to do with woke or movies in China. You were proven wrong multiple times, first by saying they lost subscribers and then by saying their revenues would drop, and neither happened. I admitted I ws wrong about the subscriptions. That’s what a man does. A man boy like you keeps beating the drum when you have been proven to be so obviously wrong. Bad quarter. Yeah, just one. Lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,984 Posted November 21, 2022 6 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Yeah, you can keep saying it all you like. Disney has taken a beating while your crew has repeatedly claimed they are doing great. They didn’t toss the boss because they are doing great. Just the opposite. And the woke crap has hurt their business. And you can keep trying to claim victory all you want but it doesn't mean you are right. They are continuing to lose money on the production side of Disney+ (not subscribers- but the money spent to produce works for the service...Chapek took heat for some of the stuff like greenlighting a second season of The MIghty Ducks show which surprised a ton of people in Disney). The word in business circles is that Chapek handled the quarterly call really poorly this last go around and then stunned people by announcing layoffs and stuff like that without running it by people. Chapek also led Disney into a lawsuit against Scarlett Johannsen which messed up business in part of the Marvel universe. The Genie+ app pissed off people in and out of Disney as monetizing one of the best features of the parks app. His organization restructuring pissed off a lot of people in how he reorganized responsibility to distribution. While Disney revenue was up 9% year-over-year it was lower than investors anticipated and they were pissed. Also, Iger said this about the bill DeSantis introduced- he retweeted Biden's quote and said : Quote "I'm with the President on this! If passed, this bill will put vulnerable, young LGBTQ people in jeopardy." You have been wrong countless times in this thread and you still can't see it. It's baffling how dug in you are on this and how devoted you are to proving you are wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,517 Posted November 21, 2022 15 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: And you can keep trying to claim victory all you want but it doesn't mean you are right. They are continuing to lose money on the production side of Disney+ (not subscribers- but the money spent to produce works for the service...Chapek took heat for some of the stuff like greenlighting a second season of The MIghty Ducks show which surprised a ton of people in Disney). The word in business circles is that Chapek handled the quarterly call really poorly this last go around and then stunned people by announcing layoffs and stuff like that without running it by people. Chapek also led Disney into a lawsuit against Scarlett Johannsen which messed up business in part of the Marvel universe. The Genie+ app pissed off people in and out of Disney as monetizing one of the best features of the parks app. His organization restructuring pissed off a lot of people in how he reorganized responsibility to distribution. While Disney revenue was up 9% year-over-year it was lower than investors anticipated and they were pissed. Also, Iger said this about the bill DeSantis introduced- he retweeted Biden's quote and said : You have been wrong countless times in this thread and you still can't see it. It's baffling how dug in you are on this and how devoted you are to proving you are wrong. What have I been wrong about again? The subscriptions? Yup. What else? And while we are at it, have you been wrong about anything? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,984 Posted November 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: What have I been wrong about again? The subscriptions? Yup. What else? And while we are at it, have you been wrong about anything? You are wrong about the woke angle you took in all of this. You were wrong about the subscribers. You were wrong about the money aspect of things over and over. I have not been wrong in this thread yet. When I am- I will point it out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,517 Posted November 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: You are wrong about the woke angle you took in all of this. You were wrong about the subscribers. You were wrong about the money aspect of things over and over. I have not been wrong in this thread yet. When I am- I will point it out. So not being able to sell in China didn’t cost Disney any profit? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,984 Posted November 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said: So not being able to sell in China didn’t cost Disney any profit? I outlined this all already. You read it.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,517 Posted November 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Sean Mooney said: I outlined this all already. You read it.. So no? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,984 Posted November 21, 2022 Just now, Hardcore troubadour said: So no? Again- I outlined all of this already. You read it. Go back and find it and see how you were wrong that time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,517 Posted November 21, 2022 Just now, Sean Mooney said: Again- I outlined all of this already. You read it. Go back and find it and see how you were wrong that time. Nope.Done with you too. You can act like a bich with others now. 42 pages I’m not pouring through when you can just say yes or no. You’re tedious and boring and need to go do some work. I win, sayonara. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,984 Posted November 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Nope.Done with you too. You can act like a bich with others now. 42 pages I’m not pouring through when you can just say yes or no. You’re tedious and boring and need to go do some work. I win, sayonara. So you get off on relitigating stuff that we already discussed is what you are saying? Again- you were wrong already. I showed you how. You refuse to go back and relive your embarrassment because you want to try and pretend you have won now with your trophy emojis. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,932 Posted November 21, 2022 55 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: So not being able to sell in China didn’t cost Disney any profit? So you think not being able to sell in China is why they brought back their CEO who just left less than 3 years ago? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,984 Posted November 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, TimHauck said: So you think not being able to sell in China is why they brought back their CEO who just left less than 3 years ago? Honestly- he doesn't know what he thinks. He is so far gone in this thread he is just tilting at windmills trying to stay ahead of it all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shooter McGavin 618 Posted November 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Sean Mooney said: Honestly- he doesn't know what he thinks. He is so far gone in this thread he is just tilting at windmills trying to stay ahead of it all. He's a childish piece of sh1t 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,517 Posted November 21, 2022 On 6/20/2022 at 9:26 AM, GutterBoy said: You have completely failed to show any correlation with the Disney/Desantis fight and any negative impact against Disney. You tried market cap, and were proven wrong. Then you tried subscribers, proven wrong again. Park attendance? Wrong. All you do is fail and look stupid, but you keep coming back for me. I'll give you a tip, just walk away. To be fair, let's wait until the next earnings come out, then maybe you'll have some evidence to support your theory. I doubt it, but we'll see. Until then, all this fighting you're doing is useless. Report is out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shooter McGavin 618 Posted November 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Report is out. The earnings were out and they were good, and you were proven wrong again. Now we're going into a recession, and they're not good. So now it's because woke? You're an absolute joke, an immature sad old man. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,517 Posted November 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Shooter McGavin said: The earnings were out and they were good, and you were proven wrong again. Now we're going into a recession, and they're not good. So now it's because woke? You're an absolute joke, an immature sad old man. So no evidence then. How’s that doubt working out for you? But you said you would be fair! Lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,158 Posted November 21, 2022 4 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Sure. Except you’re one of the clued in ones that’s all over this thread saying Disney is doing great. Remember how you told us the park was packed and that not being able to sell to China was no big deal, the movie turned a profit? Well, the BOD just let you know you don’t know shite. Kind of reminds of the guy on the old Football Gheys forum who proclaimed that Antifa/BLM were not burning down cities, looting and murdering people because when he went for a walk around his block he didn't see anything. Probably was Squirter McGavin's alias over there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,517 Posted November 21, 2022 Gutterpedo - I doubt it will go down you moron It goes down Gutterpedo- You’re a stupid head. Waaaaaa! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,517 Posted November 21, 2022 1 minute ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: Kind of reminds of the guy on the old Football Gheys forum who proclaimed that Antifa/BLM were not burning down cities, looting and murdering people because when he went for a walk around his block he didn't see anything. Probably was Squirter McGavin's alias over there. Baghdad Pedo 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craftsman 1,045 Posted November 21, 2022 Disney CEO Bob Iger has long history of cozying up to China while bashing conservative efforts in the US Iger’s ties to China came under scrutiny after the 2020 presidential election when his name was being floated as the possible U.S. ambassador to China under President Biden. His history in China dates back to the 1990s, when he and then-Disney CEO Michael Eisner embarked on an apology tour in the Communist country for Martin Scorsese’s biographical film about the Dalai Lama, "Kundun." Eisner at the time called the film a "stupid mistake" and promised the Chinese that Disney wouldn’t do anything in the future that "insults our friends." Several years later, Iger was named CEO and in 2010, he reportedly met with China’s propaganda minister and pledged to use the company’s global platform to "introduce more about China to the world." https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/disney-ceo-bob-iger-long-history-cozying-china-bashing-conservative-efforts-us Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,158 Posted November 21, 2022 52 minutes ago, craftsman said: Disney CEO Bob Iger has long history of cozying up to China while bashing conservative efforts in the US Iger’s ties to China came under scrutiny after the 2020 presidential election when his name was being floated as the possible U.S. ambassador to China under President Biden. His history in China dates back to the 1990s, when he and then-Disney CEO Michael Eisner embarked on an apology tour in the Communist country for Martin Scorsese’s biographical film about the Dalai Lama, "Kundun." Eisner at the time called the film a "stupid mistake" and promised the Chinese that Disney wouldn’t do anything in the future that "insults our friends." Several years later, Iger was named CEO and in 2010, he reportedly met with China’s propaganda minister and pledged to use the company’s global platform to "introduce more about China to the world." https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/disney-ceo-bob-iger-long-history-cozying-china-bashing-conservative-efforts-us Yep. I may have been wrong about Chapek. All of this woke nonsense actually started under Iger. Chapek is the one who is paid for it and now Iger gets to come in and look like the hero for the mess he created. Although, Chapek doesn't come out of this unscathed either with his genuflecting to the alphabet mob. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,517 Posted November 21, 2022 Looks like the bought Iger back to mend the fences with China. Smart play. Not having full access to China was hurting their profits bigtime. China wins. #metoo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,984 Posted November 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Gutterpedo - I doubt it will go down you moron It goes down Gutterpedo- You’re a stupid head. Waaaaaa! It didn't go down though. Their money was up 9% year over year. It wasn't up as much as they wanted. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shooter McGavin 618 Posted November 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Sean Mooney said: It didn't go down though. Their money was up 9% year over year. It wasn't up as much as they wanted. Revenue wasn't bad, expenses were bad, guidance was low due to recession Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,322 Posted November 22, 2022 8 hours ago, Shooter McGavin said: So this means they're not woke anymore? I don't recall when the woke started. I just know that if the executive bragging about making a point of stuffing LGBTQ ideology and themes in movies gets fired, and the movies themselves stop promoting LGBTQ ideology, then I would stop boycotting them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shooter McGavin 618 Posted November 22, 2022 1 minute ago, Voltaire said: I don't recall when the woke started. I just know that if the executive bragging about making a point of stuffing LGBTQ ideology and themes in movies gets fired, and the movies themselves stop promoting LGBTQ ideology, then I would stop boycotting them. I don't think Disney cares about your boycott Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,517 Posted November 22, 2022 10 minutes ago, Voltaire said: I don't recall when the woke started. I just know that if the executive bragging about making a point of stuffing LGBTQ ideology and themes in movies gets fired, and the movies themselves stop promoting LGBTQ ideology, then I would stop boycotting them. Same here. They get no more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,984 Posted November 22, 2022 From Forbes: Quote Disney is in danger of shutting down due to the boycott led by some members of a Fantasy Football message board. https://tinyurl.com/yk77hh7a Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craftsman 1,045 Posted November 22, 2022 6 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: From Forbes: https://tinyurl.com/yk77hh7a I could see you knowing this music and enjoying the video. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,936 Posted November 22, 2022 14 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Looks like the bought Iger back to mend the fences with China. Smart play. Not having full access to China was hurting their profits bigtime. China wins. #metoo They brought back Iger to appease the woke crowd and the ESG investors. As much as I disliked Chapke and his penny pinching, Iger is worse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,517 Posted November 22, 2022 1 minute ago, Cdub100 said: They brought back Iger to appease the woke crowd and the ESG investors. As much as I disliked Chapke and his penny pinching, Iger is worse. Oh yeah, Iger started all this, and Chapke had other ideas but bowed down to his wokesters with the whole don’t say gay thing. Can’t have it both ways. But on the business end, the first thing they have to do is figure out a way to get the Chinese market back, and Iger has a history with them. He doesn’t care about the slavery and human rights abuses there. And neither do ESG investors, another scam. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,694 Posted November 22, 2022 17 hours ago, Shooter McGavin said: Revenue wasn't bad, expenses were bad, guidance was low due to recession You keep saying this. If guidance was really low due to recession, they wouldn't have replaced the CEO. Does Iger somehow make Disney's future earnings recession proof? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,517 Posted November 22, 2022 Disney stock is down 19 pct since the former CEO took over. The s&p is up 34 pct over the same period. Bad Quarter! Recession! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites