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[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

Target, another woke corporation, taking a beating. One of the reasons given is rampant shoplifting. Good. 

[RLLD 4,255]

10 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Target, another woke corporation, taking a beating. One of the reasons given is rampant shoplifting. Good. 

Are you able to source that assertion, I had not read about that yet and would welcome the opportunity to become more informed. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

1 minute ago, RLLD said:

Are you able to source that assertion, I had not read about that yet and would welcome the opportunity to become more informed. 

You can put target in the google. It’s the first story followed by many. Take your pick 

[RLLD 4,255]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

You can put target in the google. It’s the first story followed by many. Take your pick 

You're a meaner......

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

Just now, RLLD said:

You're a meaner......

It’s not that, I’m here for discussion of basic facts.  That’s what I lay out. The rest is just spin. The internet can provide any side you’re looking for. What can’t be spun is target is woke, and via their own statement they are losing money due to rampant shoplifting, and this makes me glad. 

[RLLD 4,255]

4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

It’s not that, I’m here for discussion of basic facts.  That’s what I lay out. The rest is just spin. The internet can provide any side you’re looking for. What can’t be spun is target is woke, and via their own statement they are losing money due to rampant shoplifting, and this makes me glad. 

Yeah, I am looking, having some struggled locating anything on it, but some of what I found is leading me to look at the SEC filings, which can often be interesting. 

[Hawkeye21 2,401]

29 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

It’s not that, I’m here for discussion of basic facts.  That’s what I lay out. The rest is just spin. The internet can provide any side you’re looking for. What can’t be spun is target is woke, and via their own statement they are losing money due to rampant shoplifting, and this makes me glad. 

Can you prove that being woke is the reason behind it?  Just saying it doesn't make it true.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

4 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Can you prove that being woke is the reason behind it?  Just saying it doesn't make it true.

You’re disputing if target is a woke corporation? Really? I guess you win then. Nice work. 

[Hawkeye21 2,401]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

You’re disputing if target is a woke corporation? Really? I guess you win then. Nice work. 

No, I made it obvious that I was asking if being woke was the reason for them taking a beating.  You have a tendency to suggest that anytime a "woke" company has any struggles.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

Just now, Hawkeye21 said:

No, I made it obvious that I was asking if being woke was the reason for them taking a beating.  You have a tendency to suggest that anytime a "woke" company has any struggles.

Really. Never mentioned woke being a reason for them losing money. I said they are woke, and one of the reasons they are losing money is due to shoplifting. Rampant shoplifting. Go read it again. 

[Hawkeye21 2,401]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Really. Never mentioned woke being a reason for them losing money. I said they are woke, and one of the reasons they are losing money is due to shoplifting. Rampant shoplifting. Go read it again. 

What's the point of saying woke then?  It adds nothing to your post, other than show your bias.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

2 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

What's the point of saying woke then?  It adds nothing to your post, other than show your bias.

I wasn’t trying to hide my bias. Newsflash: I don’t like woke corporations. I wish ill on them all and hope their non woke competition absorbs all of their customers. 

[Hawkeye21 2,401]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I wasn’t trying to hide my bias. Newsflash: I don’t like woke corporations. I wish ill on them all and hope their non woke competition absorbs all of their customers. 

I'm starting to understand you more.  Your numerous biases are perfectly fine but my bias against Trump is bad.  Got it.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

5 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

I'm starting to understand you more.  Your numerous biases are perfectly fine but my bias against Trump is bad.  Got it.

So you focked up, again, and made a claim I said something I hadn’t and just brushed past that and made it about me. Meanwhile, if you actually read what I wrote instead of seeing what you wanted to see I wouldn’t be engaged in this tedious, annoying back and forth with you. And they say I’m the one that only wants to argue. Whatever. 

[Voltaire 5,322]

2 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

You’re disputing if target is a woke corporation? Really? I guess you win then. Nice work. 

You're the one making the accusation, you're the one that needs to provide the proof. If you come with a dig and provide no evidence, he's within his rights to doubt you.

Now you could come up with a link to a right wing source ...

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/ari-j-kaufman/2021/10/13/target-continues-woke-crusades-gives-another-100-million-to-black-led-organizations-n1523701

... that would work for me. There are few unbiased sources out there on the internet, sadly. Leftwing corporate MSM sources would be better. But the best place is directly from them. If you do a minute's worth of homework, their own website is the perfect place to look:

 

 

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Here's Target's DEI Statement: https://corporate.target.com/sustainability-ESG/diversity-equity-inclusion

Here's their ESG Commitment : https://corporate.target.com/sustainability-ESG

Here's their commitment to Social "Justice": https://corporate.target.com/press/Fact-Sheets/2020/12/Fact-Sheet-Target-s-Giving-to-Support-Social-Justi

 

[TimHauck 2,931]

3 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Really. Never mentioned woke being a reason for them losing money. I said they are woke, and one of the reasons they are losing money is due to shoplifting. Rampant shoplifting. Go read it again. 

So you don’t know if being woke is the reason for Target taking a beating, but you do know being woke is the reason for Disney taking a beating?

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

19 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

You're the one making the accusation, you're the one that needs to provide the proof. If you come with a dig and provide no evidence, he's within his rights to doubt you.

Now you could come up with a link to a right wing source ...

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/ari-j-kaufman/2021/10/13/target-continues-woke-crusades-gives-another-100-million-to-black-led-organizations-n1523701

... that would work for me. There are few unbiased sources out there on the internet, sadly. Leftwing corporate MSM sources would be better. But the best place is directly from them. If you do a minute's worth of homework, their own website is the perfect place to look:

 

 

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Here's Target's DEI Statement: https://corporate.target.com/sustainability-ESG/diversity-equity-inclusion

Here's their ESG Commitment : https://corporate.target.com/sustainability-ESG

Here's their commitment to Social "Justice": https://corporate.target.com/press/Fact-Sheets/2020/12/Fact-Sheet-Target-s-Giving-to-Support-Social-Justi

 

No. It is known, there’s no homework necessary, even though I did look up their statements on the woke crap. If you don’t know find out for yourself. Or don’t. IDGAF. And It’s message board , I don’t need to do anything.  You are free to do what you like, which includes passing over my posts. HTH. 

[Sean Mooney 1,984]

On 11/15/2022 at 11:16 PM, Voltaire said:

Tim Allen got bumped from being Buzz Lightyear in favor of a more expensive actor for what appears to be the same reason. 

 

I'm not sure why you guys keep on believing this and trying this line of thinking. It is wrong.

Further proof it is wrong? I know you wouldn't know because you don't follow but Tim Allen's show "The Santa Clauses" debuts on Disney+ this week. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Santa_Clauses

[Sean Mooney 1,984]

14 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

No. It is known, there’s no homework necessary, even though I did look up their statements on the woke crap. If you don’t know find out for yourself. Or don’t. IDGAF. And It’s message board , I don’t need to do anything.  You are free to do what you like, which includes passing over my posts. HTH. 

I know you don't care but....if you make statements and don't support them with any kind of fact it makes you look less than reliable on this stuff. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

Just now, Sean Mooney said:

I know you don't care but....if you make statements and don't support them with any kind of fact it makes you look less than reliable on this stuff. 

Like I  always say, I could state the sky is blue and my fan club would argue the point. Target is woke. It’s not up for debate. If you’re not aware of this then go make yourself aware. Funny no one has claimed they aren’t. 

[Sean Mooney 1,984]

3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Like I  always say, I could state the sky is blue and my fan club would argue the point. Target is woke. It’s not up for debate. If you’re not aware of this then go make yourself aware. Funny no one has claimed they aren’t. 

No this is you playing the martyr when you get called on something. The color of the sky is a visual fact. You state this ideas and then when asked to provide evidence of it you say "Go to Google and look at the results." That is basically you saying "I'll say whatever I want and let others prove it."

"Being woke" has very little to do with the relative success or failure of a company. It is just a company choosing to boost their profile by appealing to a segment of the population. It is nothing more, nothing less. 

In this post: 

19 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Target, another woke corporation, taking a beating. One of the reasons given is rampant shoplifting. Good. 

you basically throw in the "woke" word to basically shite stir.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

1 minute ago, Sean Mooney said:

No this is you playing the martyr when you get called on something. The color of the sky is a visual fact. You state this ideas and then when asked to provide evidence of it you say "Go to Google and look at the results." That is basically you saying "I'll say whatever I want and let others prove it."

"Being woke" has very little to do with the relative success or failure of a company. It is just a company choosing to boost their profile by appealing to a segment of the population. It is nothing more, nothing less. 

In this post: 

you basically throw in the "woke" word to basically shite stir.

I throw it in because I don’t like them and take glee in their misfortune. Shoot me. 

[Sean Mooney 1,984]

11 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I throw it in because I don’t like them and take glee in their misfortune. Shoot me. 

So you admit then that "being woke" has nothing to do with them losing money?

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

31 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

So you admit then that "being woke" has nothing to do with them losing money?

Is that what I said or is that what you wish I said? The sky is blue. Let’s stick to what I actually said. A company can be woke and make money because they are.  Like FTX. People like Target because it’s not Wal- mart. Same crap, different package. 

[Raven Fan 362]

1 hour ago, Sean Mooney said:

I'm not sure why you guys keep on believing this and trying this line of thinking. It is wrong.

Further proof it is wrong? I know you wouldn't know because you don't follow but Tim Allen's show "The Santa Clauses" debuts on Disney+ this week. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Santa_Clauses

hahahahahahaha

[Sean Mooney 1,984]

13 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Is that what I said or is that what you wish I said? The sky is blue. Let’s stick to what I actually said. A company can be woke and make money because they are.  Like FTX. People like Target because it’s not Wal- mart. Same crap, different package. 

 

19 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Really. Never mentioned woke being a reason for them losing money. I said they are woke, and one of the reasons they are losing money is due to shoplifting. Rampant shoplifting. Go read it again. 

Maybe if you didn't dig your heels in and go round and round on this inanity you would be able to keep up on what you are saying?

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

4 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

 

Maybe if you didn't dig your heels in and go round and round on this inanity you would be able to keep up on what you are saying?

I said they are woke. Never mentioned that as being a factor. I think they make money because they are. Nice try. 

[Shooter McGavin 618]

14 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I said they are woke. Never mentioned that as being a factor. I think they make money because they are. Nice try. 

Being woke isn't a factor, but they make money because they are woke, but Disney loses money because they are woke?

Time for a break, old man.

[TimHauck 2,931]

42 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I said they are woke. Never mentioned that as being a factor. 

But being woke is why Disney’s stock is down, correct?

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

1 hour ago, Shooter McGavin said:

Being woke isn't a factor, but they make money because they are woke, but Disney loses money because they are woke?

Time for a break, old man.

Nope. That’s exactly what I think. So this whole notion that I claim target loses money by being woke is false. That was a fantasy my fan club made up. You guys do it a lot. I think it has benefited them. Just like some other corporations. Sorry you can’t grasp that. 

[Voltaire 5,322]

12 hours ago, Sean Mooney said:

I'm not sure why you guys keep on believing this and trying this line of thinking. It is wrong.

Further proof it is wrong? I know you wouldn't know because you don't follow but Tim Allen's show "The Santa Clauses" debuts on Disney+ this week. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Santa_Clauses

I have to admit, that's pretty conclusive proof.

[Sean Mooney 1,984]

10 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I said they are woke. Never mentioned that as being a factor. I think they make money because they are. Nice try. 

Do you even know what you are arguing at this point anymore?

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

2 hours ago, Sean Mooney said:

Do you even know what you are arguing at this point anymore?

I know exactly what I’m saying, there is no argument. Companies can benefit financially by being woke. Target is one of them. Can you not grasp that? There is a market for this woke stuff. Do you deny that? Disney is about entertainment for kids and families. Many people don’t want that woke shite mixed in with family entertainment.  That cost them. This ain’t difficult man. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

My new fan club members aren’t nearly as interesting or sharp as my older ones are. The original crew were the Spice Girls. This new troupe is more like the golden girls. 

[Sean Mooney 1,984]

5 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I know exactly what I’m saying, there is no argument. Companies can benefit financially by being woke. Target is one of them. Can you not grasp that? There is a market for this woke stuff. Do you deny that? Disney is about entertainment for kids and families. Many people don’t want that woke shite mixed in with family entertainment.  That cost them. This ain’t difficult man. 

This is literally the opposite of what you've been arguing this entire thread. It is good though you've finally 180'ed on it on page 40.

5 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

My new fan club members aren’t nearly as interesting or sharp as my older ones are. The original crew were the Spice Girls. This new troupe is more like the golden girls. 

Yet you are the one acting like you've got Alzheimer's. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

1 hour ago, Sean Mooney said:

This is literally the opposite of what you've been arguing this entire thread. It is good though you've finally 180'ed on it on page 40.

Yet you are the one acting like you've got Alzheimer's. 

Explain how it’s the opposite? Every company and what they sell is different. 

[Sean Mooney 1,984]

3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Explain how it’s the opposite? Every company and what they sell is different. 

You have said Disney and Target are losing money because they went woke....now you are saying well companies can make money by going woke- Target is one of them...yet you were criticizing their going woke this thread. This line of argument also ignores that Disney is still making a ton of money DESPITE going woke which you say would hurt them.

I'm not making this up...people can look through this entire thread (if they are that big of a masochist) and see the argument you have put forward at all turns.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

5 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

You have said Disney and Target are losing money because they went woke....now you are saying well companies can make money by going woke- Target is one of them...yet you were criticizing their going woke this thread. This line of argument also ignores that Disney is still making a ton of money DESPITE going woke which you say would hurt them.

I'm not making this up...people can look through this entire thread (if they are that big of a masochist) and see the argument you have put forward at all turns.

Ok, didn’t get past the first sentence. I never said Target is losing money due to being woke. Correct that and start over if you wish to continue. Otherwise take the L. 

[Sean Mooney 1,984]

9 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Ok, didn’t get past the first sentence. I never said Target is losing money due to being woke. Correct that and start over if you wish to continue. Otherwise take the L. 

Dude- you are just being dishonest at this point. You pulled away from the questions on the bet I proposed. Now you want to try to shift your argument here and hope no one notices. I'm sorry you need to have a win that bad. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

3 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Dude- you are just being dishonest at this point. You pulled away from the questions on the bet I proposed. Now you want to try to shift your argument here and hope no one notices. I'm sorry you need to have a win that bad. 

I’ll take the win then. Unless, of course, you can show where I stated that target is losing money due to being woke. But that is impossible, you made it up/ lied. Sad