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2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Like I have pointed out here numerous times, you seem to think nit having access to the largest market in the Fockin world, that Disney has made boatloads on, womt have a significant affect on profits. It’s right in this thread. I’m bored with beating you and the other moron over your thick skulls with it. 

Disney doesn't make movies for China.  Who the fock cares.  Why do you keep raging about this? 😂

You're such a weirdo 

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2 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Disney doesn't make movies for China.  Who the fock cares.  Why do you keep raging about this? 😂

You're such a weirdo 

You’re a funny guy.  You amuse me. You’re a clown for me.  Thanks. 

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5 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

You clearly don't.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/news/disney-set-to-lose-millions-as-the-little-mermaid-tanks/ar-AA1c9dWq

This one piece here says it needs 800 million so, you're right, I was about 100-150 million dollars UNDER. The problem is you're moving the goal posts trying to find every excuse under the sun and making things up so your princess movie looks good.

You literally have no idea what your talking about and how movie budgets, box office and profits work.  You literally think Disney is getting all $472 million dollars.  :lol:

You're insane :lol:

I never said any of that.

Also in your article...

According to financial sources, The Little Mermaid, with a reported production cost of $250 million and a global marketing expenditure of $140 million, has a strong chance of reaching the break-even point.

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6 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

You're insane :lol:

I never said any of that.

Also in your article...

According to financial sources, The Little Mermaid, with a reported production cost of $250 million and a global marketing expenditure of $140 million, has a strong chance of reaching the break-even point.

So you quote "financial sources" but don't link it?  making it up again?  :lol:

It will not break even, even with the most generous of estimates.  It will barely make $500 million.  Go back to school - take some math and finance courses so next time you enter into one of these conversations you don't look like a f'n fool.  HTH.

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2 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

So you quote "financial sources" but don't link it?  making it up again?  :lol:

It will not break even, even with the most generous of estimates.  It will barely make $500 million.  Go back to school - take some math and finance courses so next time you enter into one of these conversations you don't look like a f'n fool.  HTH.

Show him some pity. He has a severe case of HTDS. It’s raging. So does his sidekick, the boy blunder Mooney. They would say the moon is square if I said it was round. 

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4 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

So you quote "financial sources" but don't link it?  making it up again?  :lol:

It will not break even, even with the most generous of estimates.  It will barely make $500 million.  Go back to school - take some math and finance courses so next time you enter into one of these conversations you don't look like a f'n fool.  HTH.

I quoted your article you focking idiot 😂

This has to be an act.  No one is this stupid.

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1 hour ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

$250 million budget + $190 million Marketing = $390 million.  Do you not know how math works?

250 +190 does not equal 390...You are a dope.

Also, show where you got the 190 number

1 hour ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

You clearly don't.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/news/disney-set-to-lose-millions-as-the-little-mermaid-tanks/ar-AA1c9dWq

This one piece here says it needs 800 million so, you're right, I was about 100-150 million dollars UNDER. The problem is you're moving the goal posts trying to find every excuse under the sun and making things up so your princess movie looks good.

You literally have no idea what your talking about and how movie budgets, box office and profits work.  You literally think Disney is getting all $472 million dollars.  :lol:

Not at all what I said. You and HT have this circle jerk of stupidity you seem to love to dance around. 

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2 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

250 +190 does not equal 390...You are a dope.

Also, show where you got the 190 number

Not at all what I said. You and HT have this circle jerk of stupidity you seem to love to dance around. 

Go away chump, you got crushed. Ooof

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8 hours ago, Sean Mooney said:

250 +190 does not equal 390...You are a dope.

Also, show where you got the 190 number

Not at all what I said. You and HT have this circle jerk of stupidity you seem to love to dance around. 

You are correct.  250 + 190 does not equal 390.  The reported TOTAL budget was $390 million, including marketing, with $250 million of that for production and $140 million for marketing.  I typed a "9" instead of a "4".  But $390 is the estimated total budget - that was correct.

Again, YOUR math did not include the take from the movie theatres AND from foreign governments.  You seem to think Disney is going to ACTUALLY get $472 million.  That $472 million represents the worldwide box office BEFORE everyone takes their cut and hands the rest to Disney.  And of the overseas total, Disney gets only 20% of the box office in China alone.  So if a movie makes $100 million in China, Disney only gets $20 million.  That's just ONE country.  How much did it make in China again?

In fact, for decades the rule was a movie needs to make 2.5x it's production budget to break even - which would put it right at about $625 million -  but you Defenders of Woke are suddenly throwing all those known calculations out the window or are pretending this thing is putting up Avatar-like numbers.  It will barely make $500 million TOTAL - before cuts - on a budget of $390 million.  Where on earth did you ever get that idea it would suddenly and magically make $250-$300 million in profit?  Again, it needs to hit about $625 million  or so to just break even and you're suggesting it will magically find another $250-$300 million somewhere as profit?  GTFO with your nonsense.

So any way you cut it, this movie is a absolutely and inarguably a financial flop as well as (arguably) a critical flop - along with Elemental.

Apparently, "Get Woke, Go Broke" also means "Get Woke, Go Broke and Lose All Basic Functions of your Mind in Defense of Woke".

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Anyway, it is pretty sad that the apparent reason for the lackluster performance is because they cast a black girl instead of a white girl.  I hate people.

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8 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Go away chump, you got crushed. Ooof

You are an idiot. Delete your account and go touch grass

1 hour ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

You are correct.  250 + 190 does not equal 390.  The reported TOTAL budget was $390 million, including marketing, with $250 million of that for production and $140 million for marketing.  I typed a "9" instead of a "4".  But $390 is the estimated total budget - that was correct.

Again, YOUR math did not include the take from the movie theatres AND from foreign governments.  You seem to think Disney is going to ACTUALLY get $472 million.  That $472 million represents the worldwide box office BEFORE everyone takes their cut and hands the rest to Disney.  And of the overseas total, Disney gets only 20% of the box office in China alone.  So if a movie makes $100 million in China, Disney only gets $20 million.  That's just ONE country.  How much did it make in China again?

In fact, for decades the rule was a movie needs to make 2.5x it's production budget to break even - which would put it right at about $625 million -  but you Defenders of Woke are suddenly throwing all those known calculations out the window or are pretending this thing is putting up Avatar-like numbers.  It will barely make $500 million TOTAL - before cuts - on a budget of $390 million.  Where on earth did you ever get that idea it would suddenly and magically make $250-$300 million in profit?  Again, it needs to hit about $625 million  or so to just break even and you're suggesting it will magically find another $250-$300 million somewhere as profit?  GTFO with your nonsense.

So any way you cut it, this movie is a absolutely and inarguably a financial flop as well as (arguably) a critical flop - along with Elemental.

Apparently, "Get Woke, Go Broke" also means "Get Woke, Go Broke and Lose All Basic Functions of your Mind in Defense of Woke".

1.) Show your work on the 390 million number. 

2.) You forgot to factor in the licensing deals they signed that offsets some of the cost of marketing.

3.) Please show where I said Disney gets all the money. You and HT love to do this- take something and add your own spin to it to create a strawman. 

4.) I'm sorry numbers and logic are hard for you. 

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Crazy how MAGAtards are now movie experts and all hate Disney now.

Anyone who thinks the Little CultistTriggerMaid will lose money after it makes $300M domestic is beyond stupid.  The studios get the bulk of the domestic BO, much larger % than the foreign BO.  There's also all the Little CultistTriggerMaid merchandise they'll sell, streaming rights, etc.

Elementals will actually lose money.  Strange World and Lightyear lost money quite bigly.  Not the Little CultistTriggerMaid.  In fact cultist, Disney recorded a $1B profit last quarter and $4B the last year.  Up quite bigly from the prior year.  DESPITE having two actual flop movies.

LOL at cultist...SMH

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2 hours ago, Sean Mooney said:

You are an idiot. Delete your account and go touch grass

1.) Show your work on the 390 million number. 

2.) You forgot to factor in the licensing deals they signed that offsets some of the cost of marketing.

3.) Please show where I said Disney gets all the money. You and HT love to do this- take something and add your own spin to it to create a strawman. 

4.) I'm sorry numbers and logic are hard for you. 

It feels like the cultist are winning this argument.

He did show his work on the 390M... 

In one of the original posts, someone (maybe you), brought up licensing at 40ish million and said throw that out.

You didn't really need to say you thought they got all the gross box office.  Your team's posts seem to think saying they made 472M was a mic drop moment.

Then someone brought up streaming licensing, but Disney+ would comprise most of that, and that isn't a profit generator for the movie... They aren't going to pay themselves to stream it and it would be pretty hard to argue that this movie would be a subscription driver.

And now gutter is conceding essentially, saying that it didn't do well because racist.  Which would imply that if you're not woke, you're racist since the larger argument is that people are tired of Disney pushing woke for the sake of woke, and it's costing them money.

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Maybe we can huddle up and come back with a better argument.

There's two ways that I see we could go...

  1. It's too early to claim defeat.  While it's not a box office smash, it will eventually end up in the black.
  2. It may be useful to look at Disney's hit rate of movies of this size by year and try to compare pre-woke to post-woke and see if the hit rate is materially different.  Then there is some hand-wavey arguments to be made if the data doesn't go our way that streaming and covid have changed movie watching habits.  This would at least force the other team to go down a rabbit hole finding other movie franchise hit rates like fast and furious, etc. 
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2 hours ago, Sean Mooney said:

You are an idiot. Delete your account and go touch grass

1.) Show your work on the 390 million number. 

2.) You forgot to factor in the licensing deals they signed that offsets some of the cost of marketing.

3.) Please show where I said Disney gets all the money. You and HT love to do this- take something and add your own spin to it to create a strawman. 

4.) I'm sorry numbers and logic are hard for you. 

  1. https://www.worldofreel.com/blog/2023/6/0rjfvq7cy3675lwj4z75h8v92vmjsw#:~:text=Not so much.,loss of around %2420M.
    1. It's available on Google for you and for me and everyone else.  Not sure how you missed that.
  2. What licensing deals?  Show YOUR work on what those licensing deals are AND the $$$ said licensing deals offsets - not just some made up number you're guessing at.
  3. Your posts imply that Disney is going to get all the money since you clearly didn't take into account that movie theatres and foreign governments get a percentage of the cuts.   Not only that, you LITERALLY said it was going to magically find another $250-$300 million in profit.  :lol:
    1. Overseas those same two take at least 50% and some take up to 80%.
  4. You're the one with numbers and logic issues since you literally didn't include theatres and foreign governments taking their cuts.  :lol:

 

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9 minutes ago, nobody said:

And now gutter is conceding essentially, saying that it didn't do well because racist.  Which would imply that if you're not woke, your racist since the argument is that people are tired of Disney pushing woke for the sake of woke, and it's costing them money.

You walked right into their trap by saying I conceded anything, but I never argued against anything.  All I said was "It's doing fine", which it is, looks like it will at worst break even at the box office, and then of course anything on top of that.

If you go back to how this all started, All I asked was if google was broke, and then I was told my position is that I'm "making excuses for the flop", which I never did.  Then when I give a reason as to why it failed, you call that a concession.  Your logic skills are subpar.

So just to be clear, it's probably gonna break even or make little, not flop.  Obviously they didn't make the movie to break even, so if you wanna call that a flop, then go ahead.

A better argument would have been Elemental.  Disney haters should go after that because that looks like a true flop.

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8 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Deliberately modifying people's posts to deceive is against the forum rules.

So is calling someone a racist POS.  I didn't report you, are you gonna report me?

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13 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

You walked right into their trap by saying I conceded anything, but I never argued against anything.  All I said was "It's doing fine", which it is, looks like it will at worst break even at the box office, and then of course anything on top of that.

If you go back to how this all started, All I asked was if google was broke, and then I was told my position is that I'm "making excuses for the flop", which I never did.  Then when I give a reason as to why it failed, you call that a concession.  Your logic skills are subpar.

So just to be clear, it's probably gonna break even or make little, not flop.  Obviously they didn't make the movie to break even, so if you wanna call that a flop, then go ahead.

A better argument would have been Elemental.  Disney haters should go after that because that looks like a true flop.

It's very clear, that you want Disney to succeed to stick it to the anti-wokes.  And yes, spending hundreds of millions on a movie and barely breaking even is a flop.

And, yes, you saying the movie isn't doing well because of racists is a concession.  

Man, I'm about to be front lined managed to death.  

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3 minutes ago, nobody said:

It's very clear, that you want Disney to succeed to stick it to the anti-wokes.  And yes, spending hundreds of millions on a movie and barely breaking even is a flop.

And, yes, you saying the movie isn't doing well because of racists is a concession.

It's really not that important to me, which is why I find it funny to see these apes put so much passion into this.

In order for me to concede that the movie isn't doing well I would have first needed to argue that it was doing well, which I never did, if you can read.

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53 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

You walked right into their trap by saying I conceded anything, but I never argued against anything.  All I said was "It's doing fine", which it is, looks like it will at worst break even at the box office, and then of course anything on top of that.

If you go back to how this all started, All I asked was if google was broke, and then I was told my position is that I'm "making excuses for the flop", which I never did.  Then when I give a reason as to why it failed, you call that a concession.  Your logic skills are subpar.

So just to be clear, it's probably gonna break even or make little, not flop.  Obviously they didn't make the movie to break even, so if you wanna call that a flop, then go ahead.

A better argument would have been Elemental.  Disney haters should go after that because that looks like a true flop.

No one was coming in here and bragging how good elemental was doing like you did with little mermaid. Facial. 

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4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

No one was coming in here and bragging how good elemental was doing like you did with little mermaid. Facial. 

bragging? :lol:

I was just reporting box office numbers.  I had nothing to do with this movie and I don't own any DIS stock (directly), so I have nothing to brag about.

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15 hours ago, Sean Mooney said:

Of course that isn't exactly what was said...but HT has his narrative he has to hit.

He also wants US companies to bend the knee to China and their mentalities. I thought he was a patriot. 

Also, you blind idiots can dispense with this line of thinking and half assed virtue signaling until  Disney stops making all the junk the sell in China. The Use of Slave labor robs you of any moral high ground. 

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Does anybody have a towel? Now would be a good time to throw it. Holy focking curb-stomping...

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On 5/29/2023 at 8:57 PM, GutterBoy said:

Disney’s live-action movie “The Little Mermaid” brought in $117.5 million at the US box office in the fifth-best opening for Memorial Day weekend in history, according to Box Office Mojo.

Go woke...

Yes, bragging. Go woke…..

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36 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Yes, bragging. Go woke…..

And there is still no going broke.  You lose.

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3 hours ago, nobody said:

It feels like the cultist are winning this argument.

He did show his work on the 390M... 

He is using a number to get to 390 that has not been confirmed anywhere legitimate. Also, I never said they get all of the money, I never mentioned the word "profit"....they are adding that to make their argument. If you have to lie to make your case you ain't winning. Also, there were articles written that some places overseas saw low viewership because they cast a black Ariel. 

3 hours ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:
  1. https://www.worldofreel.com/blog/2023/6/0rjfvq7cy3675lwj4z75h8v92vmjsw#:~:text=Not so much.,loss of around %2420M.
    1. It's available on Google for you and for me and everyone else.  Not sure how you missed that.
  2. What licensing deals?  Show YOUR work on what those licensing deals are AND the $$$ said licensing deals offsets - not just some made up number you're guessing at.
  3. Your posts imply that Disney is going to get all the money since you clearly didn't take into account that movie theatres and foreign governments get a percentage of the cuts.   Not only that, you LITERALLY said it was going to magically find another $250-$300 million in profit.  :lol:
    1. Overseas those same two take at least 50% and some take up to 80%.
  4. You're the one with numbers and logic issues since you literally didn't include theatres and foreign governments taking their cuts.  :lol:

 

"Alternative movie news" Again- I said the number is between 100-150 million reported everywhere AND I included that number. 

There are plenty of licensing deals they signed- 

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–McDonald’s launched a Happy Meal program supported by an “under the sea fun” themed drive-thru.

–HSN and Disney teamed up with Regal to launch the first shoppable augmented reality experience of its kind for a collectible ticket, supported by a two-hour special.

–Mattel broke new ground with its manufacturing to create doll hair that depicts Ariel’s. The item was so hot, that the social presale drop sold out within 24 hours and was ranked No. 1 best seller in dolls across various retailers. In addition, they’ve created eight dolls to support the launch of the Mom Influencer Campaign focused on Black mothers, and launched a first-time global partnership to develop a custom TV spot.

–BOOKING.COM designed a bespoke listing for the Ultimate Little Mermaid Getaway that brought the ocean’s aesthetic to a home on land.

–ULTA partnered with two beauty brands, including Black Girl Sunscreen and Pacifica, for the first time ever and created a licensed collection of beauty products inspired by the film. Separately, Gelish created 36 film-inspired nail colors with 250k+ bottles available globally and a custom spot featured at Times Square.

–Kellogg’s made a splash at nearly 4K Walmart Stores with exclusive packs of Mermazing Berry, inspired by the film, as well as adding on-pack movie ticket offers to fan favorite cereals.

–Annie’s created a limited-edition line of snacks and pasta products featuring Ariel on-pack and a movie ticket offer on 4.1M+ packs.

–Pandora developed a custom The Little Mermaid collection with a global ad campaign over 80 markets.

–Carol’s Daughter – the first hair care brand to be on exhibit in the Smithsonian National Museum of African American History and Culture- developed a limited-edition line of products accompanied by a campaign called Let Your Curls Sing with activations at mass and boutique retail, including a Movie Ticket Offer and influencer support.

 

They got paid to various degrees for all of them which is why I said that number is reported between 40-80 million. That offsets some of the marketing costs.

My posts did not imply anything. You are reading into them to create your argument. 

If it brings in 570 million it does make 200 million. Disney doesn't get all of that obviously. But that was not what we were discussing. Any movie has many masters to please. That isn't news. 

When you say 250 +190 equals 390 you should not be accusing people of math issues. 

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8 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

 

When you say 250 +190 equals 390 you should not be accusing people of math issues. 

B)

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Disney made $1B last quarter and $4B the last year.

For a company that's so woke they sure are hardly broke.

Stupid moron cultist...SMH

How many of you clowns were protesting outside disney the other day?  Racist, uneducated tards.

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7 hours ago, Sean Mooney said:

He is using a number to get to 390 that has not been confirmed anywhere legitimate. Also, I never said they get all of the money, I never mentioned the word "profit"....they are adding that to make their argument. If you have to lie to make your case you ain't winning. Also, there were articles written that some places overseas saw low viewership because they cast a black Ariel. 

"Alternative movie news" Again- I said the number is between 100-150 million reported everywhere AND I included that number. 

There are plenty of licensing deals they signed- 

They got paid to various degrees for all of them which is why I said that number is reported between 40-80 million. That offsets some of the marketing costs.

My posts did not imply anything. You are reading into them to create your argument. 

If it brings in 570 million it does make 200 million. Disney doesn't get all of that obviously. But that was not what we were discussing. Any movie has many masters to please. That isn't news. 

When you say 250 +190 equals 390 you should not be accusing people of math issues. 

WTF are you talking about?  I literally linked articles at what TLM estimated budget was.  Are you  really denying that?  :lol:

No movie studio is going to confirm the exact budget of their movies are - that's why everyone always speaks of them as "estimated".  It's like you literally have no idea what you're talking about and you're just making stuff up as you go along.  You have no idea how box office, movie budgets and profit work for movies.  You literally think Disney is going to get ALL 472 million of the profits.

But, hey, you got curb stomped so bad in here that you're desperately trying to turn the conversation to talk about a typo.

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9 hours ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

WTF are you talking about?  I literally linked articles at what TLM estimated budget was.  Are you  really denying that?  :lol:

No movie studio is going to confirm the exact budget of their movies are - that's why everyone always speaks of them as "estimated".  It's like you literally have no idea what you're talking about and you're just making stuff up as you go along.  You have no idea how box office, movie budgets and profit work for movies.  You literally think Disney is going to get ALL 472 million of the profits.

But, hey, you got curb stomped so bad in here that you're desperately trying to turn the conversation to talk about a typo.

No movie is going to "confirm the exact budget...that's why everyone speaks of them as estimated" Yet it is definite to you it was 140 million. Get a clue dude.

Also, please find where I said Disney is going to get ALL 472 million of the profits. Also find where I said they were going to get 472 million in profits.

I didn't get curb stomped. Adding things to what I said to declare victory and then getting pats on the back from the Mount Rushmore of ignorance here doesn't constitute a curb stomping. 

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12 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

No movie is going to "confirm the exact budget...that's why everyone speaks of them as estimated" Yet it is definite to you it was 140 million. Get a clue dude.

Also, please find where I said Disney is going to get ALL 472 million of the profits. Also find where I said they were going to get 472 million in profits.

I didn't get curb stomped. Adding things to what I said to declare victory and then getting pats on the back from the Mount Rushmore of ignorance here doesn't constitute a curb stomping. 

They just make sh1t up and embarrass themselves 

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39 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

They just make sh1t up and embarrass themselves 

Cultist are easily the dumbest people on the planet.  They are so easily fooled by CT and their alt right media that it's comical.

Like retarded children they are.

SAD

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1 hour ago, Wade Garrett said:

Cultist are easily the dumbest people on the planet.  They are so easily fooled by CT and their alt right media that it's comical.

Like retarded children they are.

SAD

Agreed. And you are the dumbest of those cultists. 👍

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2 hours ago, Sean Mooney said:

No movie is going to "confirm the exact budget...that's why everyone speaks of them as estimated" Yet it is definite to you it was 140 million. Get a clue dude.

Also, please find where I said Disney is going to get ALL 472 million of the profits. Also find where I said they were going to get 472 million in profits.

I didn't get curb stomped. Adding things to what I said to declare victory and then getting pats on the back from the Mount Rushmore of ignorance here doesn't constitute a curb stomping. 

I never said it was definite, I said it was estimated. Again, what the hell are you talking about? It's almost as if you're having a separate conversation with an imaginary strawman in your head.

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2 hours ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

I never said it was definite, I said it was estimated. Again, what the hell are you talking about? It's almost as if you're having a separate conversation with an imaginary strawman in your head.

You are stating numbers as it being definite you dope

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2 hours ago, Sean Mooney said:

You are stating numbers as it being definite you dope

I haven't gone back to look, but I'm pretty sure when I started this discussion I mentioned that 390 million was the "estimated" budget.

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19 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

I haven't gone back to look, but I'm pretty sure when I started this discussion I mentioned that 390 million was the "estimated" budget.

Bro doesn't even know what he's posting about anymore 

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19 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Bro doesn't even know what he's posting about anymore 

I don't have time to sit here 24/7 like you do, jerking yourself off over the latest liberal propaganda you slurped up at the DNC Glory Hole.

I actually have a life.  🖕

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