More grooming from the left

[Sean Mooney 1,983]

Just now, jerryskids said:

I have no problem what I said.  I'm not saying it again and wasting more time.  How about you chime in Sean?  What is your thought regarding young children?  Is trans something we should target our young children to aspire to?  

And can childhood experiences influence ones attitudes towards sex or gender?  Think hard about this one, I'll let the rope dangle there for most people to see, you though I'm not too sure.

Again- when did I ever say we should? The difference is I don't try to pretend to be some patron saint of protecting the kids while simultaneously saying "Gay and trans people aren't normal."

Yes kids can be messed up by sexual experiences as kids- but a drag queen reading a story to them is most likely not going to do that. What it does seem to do is make a lot of allegedly straight males on a fantasy football message board jump to a bunch of weird conclusions. 

[Shooter McGavin 618]

Jerry if.one of your kids came to you questioning their sexuality or gender and asked if they were normal, what would you say?

[craftsman 1,045]

4 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Again- when did I ever say we should? The difference is I don't try to pretend to be some patron saint of protecting the kids while simultaneously saying "Gay and trans people aren't normal."

Yes kids can be messed up by sexual experiences as kids- but a drag queen reading a story to them is most likely not going to do that. What it does seem to do is make a lot of allegedly straight males on a fantasy football message board jump to a bunch of weird conclusions. 

This is Mooney's teaching style. "This may or may not be damaging to the kids, so let's run with. I fully support it and will fight for it."

[Gladiators 1,987]

6 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

Jerry's position is that young children are particularly impressionable, they can be conditioned to embrace certain things, and it does them no good to confuse them with identity questioning gay/trans issues that have no place in an elementary school or kindergarten.

I'd also point out that since the LBGTA agenda is the culture's mainstream agenda embraced by the federal government, media, and education establishment, it is them who want to impose their values on parents and their children not the other way around.  The actual people trying to impose their values are the ones that force-feed gay trans issues into TV programming aimed at children and in elementary schools where this stuff should not be addressed. The real bully wanting to inflict "your normal," as always, is your side. Our side just wants to be left alone.

Nailed it.

[Voltaire 5,316]

11 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Yawn. A bunch of words you heard from your overlords and you put together into phrases to try to seem smart. 

Find a new line dude. 

Some of the posts that I most want to eat are personal attacks I made on IGotWorms and wiffleball (and even Rusty and gutterboy).

Your side has successfully infested and hijacked many governmental, social, and media institutions. As it turned out you have now gone way too far, and are facing a rear-guard action against the backlash for having done so. I think reading the polls has put you in too foul a mood, I know that's when I'm at my worst.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,101]

5 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said:

Jerry if.one of your kids came to you questioning their sexuality or gender and asked if they were normal, what would you say?

What did both your moms say when you did it?

[Sean Mooney 1,983]

4 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

Jerry's position is that young children are particularly impressionable, they can be conditioned to embrace certain things, and it does them no good to confuse them with identity questioning gay/trans issues that have no place in an elementary school or kindergarten.

I'd also point out that since the LBGTA agenda is the culture's mainstream agenda embraced by the federal government, media, and education establishment, it is them who want to impose their values on parents and their children not the other way around.  The actual people trying to impose their values are the ones that force-feed gay trans issues into TV programming aimed at children and in elementary schools where this stuff should not be addressed. The real bully wanting to inflict "your normal," as always, is your side. Our side just wants to be left alone.

Once the fook again- I do not have a political side. It's really annoying having to say it all the time just because I am not as far to the right as the rest of you.

And once again- Jerry said this: " I want to teach them normal behavior when they are young, because they are highly impressionable sponges soaking up information.  If you don't agree with this, then yeah, we disagree." Gay people are normal. Trans people are normal. It doesn't matter if you or I understand their lifestyle but they are normal. When you say what Jerry did it is just being ignorant and intolerant- as I said. 

Times have changed. 30 years ago you would not have seen gay couples on TV. Now you do. In 1971 when The Omega Man was released people lost their minds over a black woman and Charlton Heston having a sex scene. Times changed. 

And just so we are clear- I'm not objecting to the idea of presenting it to kids....I think there is a reasonable discussion that can be had about how far things can go and what you can/should present. I object however strongly to the idea that they are not normal. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,101]

3 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Once the fook again- I do not have a political side. It's really annoying having to say it all the time just because I am not as far to the right as the rest of you.

And once again- Jerry said this: " I want to teach them normal behavior when they are young, because they are highly impressionable sponges soaking up information.  If you don't agree with this, then yeah, we disagree." Gay people are normal. Trans people are normal. It doesn't matter if you or I understand their lifestyle but they are normal. When you say what Jerry did it is just being ignorant and intolerant- as I said. 

Times have changed. 30 years ago you would not have seen gay couples on TV. Now you do. In 1971 when The Omega Man was released people lost their minds over a black woman and Charlton Heston having a sex scene. Times changed. 

And just so we are clear- I'm not objecting to the idea of presenting it to kids....I think there is a reasonable discussion that can be had about how far things can go and what you can/should present. I object however strongly to the idea that they are not normal. 

FYI - Transgender is not "normal" behavior.  Nor is any other part of the alphabet mob.  We should not be teaching kids that this is a choice - it's not.  For years we were told it was "natural" but "natural" doesn't explain the explosion we've seen from this group.  It's because THE LEFT IS  confusing children and teaching them that this is a choice.

Not only is LGBTQ bad for children, it's bad for the human race as a species.

[Sean Mooney 1,983]

2 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

Some of the posts that I most want to eat are personal attacks I made on IGotWorms and wiffleball.

Your side has successfully infested and hijacked many governmental, social, and media institutions. As it turned out you have now gone way too far, and are facing a rear-guard action against the backlash for having done so. I think reading the polls has put you in too foul a mood, I know that's when I'm at my worst.

I don't have a fooking side. I don't care who wins the Senate or the House or the White House because all these people suck. I don't get the hero worship people have of them. Didn't get it with Obama. Didn't get it with Trump.

Just pointing out all this stuff you guys spout is the same sh!t that was said during the civil rights movement. 

[Sean Mooney 1,983]

Just now, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

FYI - Transgender is not "normal" behavior.  Nor is any other part of the alphabet mob.  We should not be teaching kids that this is a choice - it's not.  For years we were told it was "natural" but "natural" doesn't explain the explosion we've seen from this group.  It's because we're confusing children and teaching them that this is a choice.

Not only is LGBTQ bad for children, it's bad for the human race as a species.

Another one for the hateful mob. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,101]

Just now, Sean Mooney said:

I don't have a fooking side. I don't care who wins the Senate or the House or the White House because all these people suck. I don't get the hero worship people have of them. Didn't get it with Obama. Didn't get it with Trump.

Just pointing out all this stuff you guys spout is the same sh!t that was said during the civil rights movement. 

No it wasn't.  You are out of your mind.

[Shooter McGavin 618]

1 minute ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

FYI - Transgender is not "normal" behavior.  Nor is any other part of the alphabet mob.  We should not be teaching kids that this is a choice - it's not.  For years we were told it was "natural" but "natural" doesn't explain the explosion we've seen from this group.  It's because THE LEFT IS  confusing children and teaching them that this is a choice.

Not only is LGBTQ bad for children, it's bad for the human race as a species.

You have lots of hate in your heart.  That's not good.

[Sean Mooney 1,983]

1 minute ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

No it wasn't.  You are out of your mind.

Read some history dude. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,101]

1 minute ago, Sean Mooney said:

Another one for the hateful mob. 

The truth is now hate? 

You're so indoctrinated you can't see straight (pun intended).

[Shooter McGavin 618]

1 minute ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

No it wasn't.  You are out of your mind.

Yes it was.  There are still people that think coloreds shouldn't go to school with whites, or have relationships with them.  Same way you're saying gay or trans people can't be gay or trans.

 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,101]

Just now, Shooter McGavin said:

You have lots of hate in your heart.  That's not good.

I'm not the one in here defending the grooming of children like you and your pals are.

Let me know when you can understand words and their meanings.

[Sean Mooney 1,983]

Just now, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

I'm not the one in here defending the grooming of children like you and your pals are.

Let me know when you can understand words and their meanings.

Taking your posting lessons from Utilit99 I see. 

Good thing you guys on the right don't rely on just name calling right?

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,101]

2 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said:

Yes it was.  There are still people that think coloreds shouldn't go to school with whites, or have relationships with them.  Same way you're saying gay or trans people can't be gay or trans.

 

Yeah, you know who that is?  IT'S COLORED PEOPLE, you dumb m##########r. 

[Shooter McGavin 618]

Just now, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

I'm not the one in here defending the grooming of children like you and your pals are.

Let me know when you can understand words and their meanings.

It's amazing how many ignorant and repugnant people try and claim educational superiority.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,101]

Just now, Sean Mooney said:

Taking your posting lessons from Utilit99 I see. 

Good thing you guys on the right don't rely on just name calling right?

If the shoe fits, you gotta' wear it.  And it fits you extremely well. 

[Sean Mooney 1,983]

Just now, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

If the shoe fits, you gotta' wear it.  And it fits you extremely well. 

Same old sh!t from you guys.

 

[Shooter McGavin 618]

16 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said:

Jerry if.one of your kids came to you questioning their sexuality or gender and asked if they were normal, what would you say?

@jerryskids

Didn't want this buried before eternaldumb went all kkk up in here

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,101]

4 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said:

It's amazing how many ignorant and repugnant people try and claim educational superiority.

Look at you, trying to claim educational superiority.  No one is claiming that, moron.  We all have eyes except you, apparently.

Besides, I can't help you're an idiot and just follow what you're told.  How about thinking for yourself for once?

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,101]

3 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Same old sh!t from you guys.

And same old shoe for you. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,101]

5 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said:

@jerryskids

Didn't want this buried before eternaldumb went all kkk up in here

Another example of you not being able to use words and their meanings properly. 

Even the average person has "educational superiority" compared to you.  I just got done curb-stomping you about who really wants the segregation up in here and your response is the standard liberal nonsense.

When cornered with the truth, shout "OMG!!  RACISM!!"

[Sean Mooney 1,983]

1 minute ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Another example of you not being able to use words and their meanings properly. 

Even the average person has "educational superiority" compared to you.  I just got done curb-stomping you about who really wants the segregation up in here and your response is the standard liberal nonsense.

Yup..say a bunch of dumb things and then declare "stomping" someone. 

Typical playbook here. 

[Strike 5,538]

22 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said:

Jerry if.one of your kids came to you questioning their sexuality or gender and asked if they were normal, what would you say?

How about supplying an age.  Implicit in Jerry's stance is that the age of the child is important.

[Shooter McGavin 618]

2 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Another example of you not being able to use words and their meanings properly. 

Even the average person has "educational superiority" compared to you.  I just got done curb-stomping you about who really wants the segregation up in here and your response is the standard liberal nonsense.

You can't make this sh1t up

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,101]

1 minute ago, Shooter McGavin said:

You can't make this sh1t up

And yet, you did. 

[Shooter McGavin 618]

19 minutes ago, Strike said:

How about supplying an age.  Implicit in Jerry's stance is that the age of the child is important.

If there are different answers by age then go ahead and provide them.

[craftsman 1,045]

4 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said:

If there are different answers by age then go ahead and provide them.

[Voltaire 5,316]

48 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Once the fook again- I do not have a political side. It's really annoying having to say it all the time just because I am not as far to the right as the rest of you.

And once again- Jerry said this: " I want to teach them normal behavior when they are young, because they are highly impressionable sponges soaking up information.  If you don't agree with this, then yeah, we disagree." Gay people are normal. Trans people are normal. It doesn't matter if you or I understand their lifestyle but they are normal. When you say what Jerry did it is just being ignorant and intolerant- as I said. 

Times have changed. 30 years ago you would not have seen gay couples on TV. Now you do. In 1971 when The Omega Man was released people lost their minds over a black woman and Charlton Heston having a sex scene. Times changed. 

And just so we are clear- I'm not objecting to the idea of presenting it to kids....I think there is a reasonable discussion that can be had about how far things can go and what you can/should present. I object however strongly to the idea that they are not normal. 

Most all posters here are middle aged who remember full well the 80s and 90s. We didn't have this epidemic when we were kids where 1/6 of us identified as trans and all the mental/suicidal issues that have accompanied it until the trans movement came along five years ago. We had a small handful of oddballs like Boy George, RuPaul, and Chaz Bono and I don't imagine life was very intolerable for them. Or maybe Boy George got a free pass locally from my teenage peers since it was known that he was an avid Tigers fan like we all were.

This stuff has blown up for a reason. Alongside the grooming of kids into this lifestyle, which you refuse to acknowledge but cannot account and never attempt to explain for the inflated numbers, has come the accompanying mental health and suicidal issues of transgender youth. We've seen it all happen in real time and you're trying to trick us into thinking we have something to do with it when 99% of the blame ought to be laid at the feet of your side and, no, your excuses about not having a side don't go anywhere; you've allowed yourself to be fully invested and indoctrinated.

Where were all the kids in the wrong bodies when we were growing up? Why wasn't their suicide rate through the roof throughout human history and only started five years ago when they became embraced and celebrated? Although praised and celebrated, there's only a very few Gen X or Boomer adults that have transitioned since this stuff went viral. Most everything is because of the boom in the Gen Z and Millenial age brackets where all the whackadoodle play acting was allowed to take hold and festered... by people just like you who should have been responsible adults to kids but didn't.

[Shooter McGavin 618]

Voltaire, we've talked about this ad nauseam, but the increased number of trans can be attributed to the fact that it's acceptable to talk about this stuff now when it wasn't 30 years ago.  There are also "confused" trans people and trendy fake trans people.  Lots of reasons for the rise, none of which that we're teaching kids to be trans now.  That's dumb.

[Fireballer 2,642]

54 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Times have changed. 30 years ago you would not have seen gay couples on TV. Now you do. In 1971 when The Omega Man was released people lost their minds over a black woman and Charlton Heston having a sex scene. Times changed. 

 

Dumb.

You're equating ideas becoming mainstream and something being biologically normal.  If you think the prevelance of interracial or gay scenes on TV becoming mainstream is the same as someone saying that they are born in the wrong body,  youre mistaken. There's nothing congruent with the terms "wrong body" and "normal". And there's nothing biologically normal about trans.  If you claim to be trans, you have most likely succumb to social contagion or are, sadly, ill and need help.  

[Shooter McGavin 618]

4 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

Dumb.

You're equating ideas becoming mainstream and something being biologically normal.  If you think the prevelance of interracial or gay scenes on TV becoming mainstream is the same as someone saying that they are born in the wrong body,  youre mistaken. There's nothing congruent with the terms "wrong body" and "normal". And there's nothing biologically normal about trans.  If you claim to be trans, you have most likely succumb to social contagion or are, sadly, ill and need help.  

How do you fix a person that says they are trans?

[Strike 5,538]

23 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said:

If there are different answers by age then go ahead and provide them.

I'll pass.  after reading the diarrhea that's been coming out of your mouth in this thread I don't need to participate.  Just pointing out that age is implicit in the argument.

[Shooter McGavin 618]

Just now, Strike said:

I'll pass.  after reading the diarrhea that's been coming out of your mouth in this thread I don't need to participate.  Just pointing out that age is implicit in the argument.

Thanks for not participating 

[Voltaire 5,316]

8 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said:

Voltaire, we've talked about this ad nauseam, but the increased number of trans can be attributed to the fact that it's acceptable to talk about this stuff now when it wasn't 30 years ago.  There are also "confused" trans people and trendy fake trans people.  Lots of reasons for the rise, none of which that we're teaching kids to be trans now.  That's dumb.

This stuff has exploded because it's presented to young people as a viable option and subsequently promoted and celebrated when they do transition.

The slippery slope argument has gone of the rails with this. It started as "we just want civil unions" to "we want gay marriage" but just kept going to "we demand that you bake us this cake" to "we will talk about gender to your kindergarteners without informing you and how dare you complain about it,"  and now to "we'll take your child away and make your insurance company pay for a sex change operation even if you don't consent."

And then when parents complain and a pushback ensues, you're like. "Shut up. It's not happening but even if it is, which it absolutely isn't, it's what the school should be doing anyways. Let the schools do what they want, you have no right to complain." 

[Fireballer 2,642]

11 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said:

How do you fix a person that says they are trans?

Mental illness is treatable, but I bet you would be challenged to find a professional saying that it's curable.

[Shooter McGavin 618]

4 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

This stuff has exploded because it's presented to young people as a viable option and subsequently promoted and celebrated when they do transition.

The slippery slope argument has gone of the rails with this. It started as "we just want civil unions" to "we want gay marriage" but just kept going to "we demand that you bake us this cake" to "we will talk about gender to your kindergarteners without informing you and how dare you complain about it,"  and now to "we'll take your child away and make your insurance company pay for a sex change operation even if you don't consent."

And then when parents complain and a pushback ensues, you're like. "Shut up. It's not happening but even if it is, which it absolutely isn't, it's what the school should be doing anyways. Let the schools do what they want, you have no right to complain." 

You don't even live here, you're just repeating what other people say.