Chiefs Receivers 2022 - predictions?

[cmh6476 1,025]

Last year we saw:

Tyreek Hill - 111 Receptions, 1,239 yards, 9 TD (159 targets)

Demarcus Robinson - 25/264/3 (41)

Mecole Hardman - 59/693/2 (83)

Byron Pringle - 42/568/5 (60)

Marcus Kemp - 2/24/0 (5)

Josh Gordon - 5/32/1 (14)

And then there's Travis Kelce (92/1,125/8 on 134 targets.

So you basically have 180 receptions, 2,095 yards and 17 TDs from guys who aren't on the team any longer.

 

From the Chiefs official depth chart, it appears they are listed in the following order:

1. JuJu Smith-Schuster - last year with Pit 15/ 129/ 0 on 28 targets in 5 games

2. Marquez Valdes-Scantling - last year with GB 26/ 430/ 3 on 55 targets in 11 games

3. Mecole Hardman

4. Skyy Moore

5. Justin Watson

To me it seems like those five make the team, and maybe a sixth if Watson is kept for special teams.  Guys like Daurice Fountain, Josh Gordon, Corey Coleman and a couple others are fighting for a spot on the team.

Just curious what everyone's take will be, and if there will be one guy that kind of creeps up into that #2 type role on fantasy rosters.  

From early camp reports, the most glowing reports have been on Skyy Moore and Justin Watson.  I don't know that Smith-Schuster, Valdez-Scantling or Hardman have really shown they can elevate to that upper echelon of receivers in the league.  But I think what's interesting is that you have no real front-runner, as every guy is new to the team, new to learning the system and building rapport with Mahomes, and every guy is being given a chance to shine.  The exception is obviously Hardman who has been around a few years and maybe has a chance to excel now that Tyreek is gone, but I don't know that he will.  If I had to make some early preseason projections, I might go something like:

Kelce - 100/ 1,200/ 8

Smith-Schuster - 65/ 580/ 4

Valdes-Scantling - 45/ 720/ 3

Hardman - 70/ 810/ 4

Moore - 50/ 650/ 5

Watson - 25/ 280/ 2

Accounting for the four new additions here, this is projecting 185 receptions, 2,230 yards and 14 TDs (compared to the 180 receptions, 2,095 yards and 17 TDs from 2021 that I referenced earlier from players not with the team).

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[TBayXXXVII 2,545]

The specific players, I'm not really sure, but I would be willing to guess that the production of these 5 (and Kelce), are lower than the 5 (and Kelce), last year... buy a pretty good number too.  I think Hill's presence made it easier for everyone one else on that team last year.  I'm thinking if the total for those was around 150 / 1800 / 11, I'd say that would be pretty good.  I think Kelce is in the 85 / 1000 / 6 range.

I'm guessing that the Chiefs will run more and pass less than last year.  In the first 6 weeks last year, Mahomes threw the ball 40 times per game, in the last 11, he threw it 38.  I think the last 11 is the trajectory they go in... I'm thinking the average will be around 36 or 37.  No one is going to be scared by the Chiefs passing game this year.  The players are going to have to prove they're worth fearing.  Juju, MVS, and Hardman have proven that they are JAG's.  Nothing wrong with them in that role, but if you're asking these guys to be a 1, 2, & 3... you're going to be disappointed.  You're going to need Moore to step up and take on a big role.  I think he could be good, but I don't know if he'll be a WR1 (NFL, not fantasy), this year.  Maybe a solid WR2?

[jrokh 608]

47 minutes ago, cmh6476 said:

Last year we saw:

Tyreek Hill - 111 Receptions, 1,239 yards, 9 TD (159 targets)

Demarcus Robinson - 25/264/3 (41)

Mecole Hardman - 59/693/2 (83)

Byron Pringle - 42/568/5 (60)

Marcus Kemp - 2/24/0 (5)

Josh Gordon - 5/32/1 (14)

And then there's Travis Kelce (92/1,125/8 on 134 targets.

So you basically have 180 receptions, 2,095 yards and 17 TDs from guys who aren't on the team any longer.

 

From the Chiefs official depth chart, it appears they are listed in the following order:

1. JuJu Smith-Schuster - last year with Pit 15/ 129/ 0 on 28 targets in 5 games

2. Marquez Valdes-Scantling - last year with GB 26/ 430/ 3 on 55 targets in 11 games

3. Mecole Hardman

4. Skyy Moore

5. Justin Watson

To me it seems like those five make the team, and maybe a sixth if Watson is kept for special teams.  Guys like Daurice Fountain, Josh Gordon, Corey Coleman and a couple others are fighting for a spot on the team.

Just curious what everyone's take will be, and if there will be one guy that kind of creeps up into that #2 type role on fantasy rosters.  

From early camp reports, the most glowing reports have been on Skyy Moore and Justin Watson.  I don't know that Smith-Schuster, Valdez-Scantling or Hardman have really shown they can elevate to that upper echelon of receivers in the league.  But I think what's interesting is that you have no real front-runner, as every guy is new to the team, new to learning the system and building rapport with Mahomes, and every guy is being given a chance to shine.  The exception is obviously Hardman who has been around a few years and maybe has a chance to excel now that Tyreek is gone, but I don't know that he will.  If I had to make some early preseason projections, I might go something like:

Kelce - 100/ 1,200/ 8

Smith-Schuster - 65/ 580/ 4

Valdes-Scantling - 45/ 720/ 3

Hardman - 70/ 810/ 4

Moore - 50/ 650/ 5

Watson - 25/ 280/ 2

Accounting for the four new additions here, this is projecting 185 receptions, 2,230 yards and 14 TDs (compared to the 180 receptions, 2,095 yards and 17 TDs from 2021 that I referenced earlier from players not with the team).

So when you said on another post that Mahomes was going to make Watson a star you meant: 25-280-2? Sheesh, talk about lowered expectations for what a star is…

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1 minute ago, jrokh said:

So when you said on another post that Mahomes was going to make Watson a star you meant: 25-280-2? Sheesh, talk about lowered expectations for what a star is…

maybe he meant he will eventually be a star.  but not today.

[AxeElf 787]

1 minute ago, jrokh said:

So when you said on another post that Mahomes was going to make Watson a star you meant: 25-280-2?

He didn't mean all season, just those two games.

[polecatt 478]

I think Juju will have a pretty good season if he stays on the field...

Of course Kelce will produce.

The rest, will have some flashes, big plays, a big game here and there, pretty much like usual.

Having Tyreek gone is gonna hurt but Mahomes can adapt

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1 hour ago, jrokh said:

So when you said on another post that Mahomes was going to make Watson a star you meant: 25-280-2? Sheesh, talk about lowered expectations for what a star is…

haha.  I think he is one that could exceed expectations for sure, but he's definitely getting hyped up in camp.  For me I can see him contributing, but there's too many mouths to feed.  He could be a nice white guy receiver story.

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1 hour ago, polecatt said:

I think Juju will have a pretty good season if he stays on the field...

Of course Kelce will produce.

The rest, will have some flashes, big plays, a big game here and there, pretty much like usual.

Having Tyreek gone is gonna hurt but Mahomes can adapt

The question for Kelce will be if the complementary receivers will be able to keep defenses honest, because we know Hill did that.  I think the pieces they added could make this offense better than last year though, ironically.  Looking at the list from last year, beyond Hill there wasn't much.

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1 hour ago, TBayXXXVII said:

The specific players, I'm not really sure, but I would be willing to guess that the production of these 5 (and Kelce), are lower than the 5 (and Kelce), last year... buy a pretty good number too.  I think Hill's presence made it easier for everyone one else on that team last year.  I'm thinking if the total for those was around 150 / 1800 / 11, I'd say that would be pretty good.  I think Kelce is in the 85/1000/6 range.

I'm guessing that the Chiefs will run more and pass less than last year.  In the first 6 weeks last year, Mahomes threw the ball 40 times per game, in the last 11, he threw it 38.  I think the last 11 is the trajectory they go in... I'm thinking the average will be around 36 or 37.  No one is going to be scared by the Chiefs passing game this year.  The players are going to have to prove they're worth fearing.  Juju, MVS, and Hardman have proven that they are JAG's.  Nothing wrong with them in that role, but if you're asking these guys to be a 1, 2, & 3... you're going to be disappointed.  You're going to need Moore to step up and take on a big role.  I think he could be good, but I don't know if he'll be a WR1 (NFL, not fantasy), this year.  Maybe a solid WR2?

Problem is their rb’s don’t scare anyone. Andy dropped the ball. There’s still time to bring a back in but the options are limited. He needed to draft one early rather than rely on a seventh round pick.

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Just now, wolves111 said:

Problem is their rb’s don’t scare anyone. Andy dropped the ball. There’s still time to bring a back in but the options are limited. He needed to draft one early rather than rely on a seventh round pick.

From a rushing perspective, I agree, but Andy Reid has used his backs to catch short passes in lieu of running the ball in the past.  He's never really been a "run" guy.  He'd much rather have more versatile backs than runners.  I think that's why they signed Ronald Jones this off-season.  I think their plan was to run him the most but use everyone else for pass catching because of the big unknown status of their receiver corp.

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1 hour ago, TBayXXXVII said:

The specific players, I'm not really sure, but I would be willing to guess that the production of these 5 (and Kelce), are lower than the 5 (and Kelce), last year... buy a pretty good number too.  I think Hill's presence made it easier for everyone one else on that team last year.  I'm thinking if the total for those was around 150 / 1800 / 11, I'd say that would be pretty good.  I think Kelce is in the 85/1000/6 range.

I'm guessing that the Chiefs will run more and pass less than last year.  In the first 6 weeks last year, Mahomes threw the ball 40 times per game, in the last 11, he threw it 38.  I think the last 11 is the trajectory they go in... I'm thinking the average will be around 36 or 37.  No one is going to be scared by the Chiefs passing game this year.  The players are going to have to prove they're worth fearing.  Juju, MVS, and Hardman have proven that they are JAG's.  Nothing wrong with them in that role, but if you're asking these guys to be a 1, 2, & 3... you're going to be disappointed.  You're going to need Moore to step up and take on a big role.  I think he could be good, but I don't know if he'll be a WR1 (NFL, not fantasy), this year.  Maybe a solid WR2?

I'm starting to think Skyy Moore could be that guy, the more I see and hear about him.  Plus, it doesn't seem to take receivers three years to figure it out in the NFL like it used to.  There's likely a learning curve, but I wouldn't be surprised to see more consistency in the second half of the season after the offense figures out their identify.  And Moore could be a significant piece to that for the Chiefs.  

The Chiefs had 3 high performing contributors from last year's draft class, and 3 from 2020 (although CEH has been the least effective of those three).  

However, this might be Veach's best class yet with Trent McDuffie (1st rd), George Karlaftis (1st rd), and Skyy Moore (2nd rd).  It also sounds like Bryan Cook (Safety, 2nd), Loe Chenal (LB, 3rd), and Josh Williams (CB, 4th) and Isaih Pacheco (RB, 7th) are going to have every opportunity to contribute early.  It's not just Mahomes as the reason the Chiefs have had the success they have, it's also how they've hit on their draft and getting guys to have an impact on their rookie contracts.

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12 minutes ago, wolves111 said:

Problem is their rb’s don’t scare anyone. Andy dropped the ball. There’s still time to bring a back in but the options are limited. He needed to draft one early rather than rely on a seventh round pick.

Report on what Pacheco can do have also been very positive.  I'm not worried about the Chiefs offense.  Damien and Darrel Williams didn't go to other teams and become world beaters.  Between CEH, Ron Jones, McKinnon and Pacheco they should be fine.  The Chiefs didn't lose to the Bengals because of their offense, and the investments have really been made to shore up their defense.  I know a lot of people are kind of writing them off, but I really do think this team is going to be better than they were last year as a whole unit.

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1 hour ago, polecatt said:

I think Juju will have a pretty good season if he stays on the field...

Of course Kelce will produce.

The rest, will have some flashes, big plays, a big game here and there, pretty much like usual.

Having Tyreek gone is gonna hurt but Mahomes can adapt

2017 (13 games) - 58 rec, 917 yard, 7 TD (79 targets)

2018 (16) - 11/ 1,426/ 7 (166)

2019 (12) - 42/ 552/ 3 (70)

2020 (16) - 97/ 831/ 9 (128)

2021 (5) - 15/ 129/ 0 (28)

 

I guess looking at this, if there's a guy I probably have projected low with the ceiling and opportunity to be the No. 1 guy, maybe it is JuJu.

[TBayXXXVII 2,545]

6 minutes ago, cmh6476 said:

I'm starting to think Skyy Moore could be that guy, the more I see and hear about him.  Plus, it doesn't seem to take receivers three years to figure it out in the NFL like it used to.  There's likely a learning curve, but I wouldn't be surprised to see more consistency in the second half of the season after the offense figures out their identify.  And Moore could be a significant piece to that for the Chiefs.  

The Chiefs had 3 high performing contributors from last year's draft class, and 3 from 2020 (although CEH has been the least effective of those three).  

However, this might be Veach's best class yet with Trent McDuffie (1st rd), George Karlaftis (1st rd), and Skyy Moore (2nd rd).  It also sounds like Bryan Cook (Safety, 2nd), Loe Chenal (LB, 3rd), and Josh Williams (CB, 4th) and Isaih Pacheco (RB, 7th) are going to have every opportunity to contribute early.  It's not just Mahomes as the reason the Chiefs have had the success they have, it's also how they've hit on their draft and getting guys to have an impact on their rookie contracts.

Moore might be that guy, but we'll find out.  I just wouldn't bank on it happening this year, that's all.  I will say, that while it doesn't always take 3 years, it usually takes more than 1, with the exception of the elites.  Those guys also usually go in the 1st round... not the 3rd.

I never said the Chiefs didn't have a good team, I just simply said that I think the passing game will not be as good as last year and that their running game will probably be used more.  Though, when I say passing game I'm referring to the receivers & TE's... and conversely, running game means running backs.  Reid has always liked to use his backs in the passing game.  For the purpose of this thread, since you were talking about the WR's, that's what I was talking about.  It's quite possible that the overall passing numbers may be close to last year, but I think that comes from a bigger workload out of the backfield and not a bigger contribution from the receiving corp.

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anyone have a sense as to who has the highest ADP on more recent drafts?  Are JuJu and Moore going near the same time?

[AxeElf 787]

5 minutes ago, cmh6476 said:

anyone have a sense as to who has the highest ADP on more recent drafts?  Are JuJu and Moore going near the same time?

Juju is going far ahead of Moore.  He's in Amon-Ra range.  Skyy is Moore like a double-digit round pick.

[cmh6476 1,025]

9 minutes ago, AxeElf said:

Juju is going far ahead of Moore.  He's in Amon-Ra range.  Skyy is Moore like a double-digit round pick.

I'd much rather have Amon-Ra than JuJu.  Skyy Moore will go way earlier than that here, but I'm picking with other homers.

 

Hill/ Hardman/ Pringle or JuJu/ MVS/ Hardman may seem obvious to want to say the first group simply because of Hill.  But then DeMarcus Robinson just got cut by the Raiders, so our 4 and 5 now are already looking up in my opinion.  That's why I think overall this is going to be a much improved group from last year.

[AxeElf 787]

2 minutes ago, cmh6476 said:

I'd much rather have Amon-Ra than JuJu.  Skyy Moore will go way earlier than that here, but I'm picking with other homers.

I would rather have Amon-Ra, but Juju won't be far behind in PPR.

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1 hour ago, cmh6476 said:

anyone have a sense as to who has the highest ADP on more recent drafts?  Are JuJu and Moore going near the same time?

No all mocks I have been on JuJu going before. 

I think JuJu is going to be a good one in that offense. 

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2 hours ago, cmh6476 said:

The question for Kelce will be if the complementary receivers will be able to keep defenses honest, because we know Hill did that.  I think the pieces they added could make this offense better than last year though, ironically.  Looking at the list from last year, beyond Hill there wasn't much.

I disagree, Kelce will get a lot of targets.  

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1 hour ago, cmh6476 said:

Report on what Pacheco can do have also been very positive.  I'm not worried about the Chiefs offense.  Damien and Darrel Williams didn't go to other teams and become world beaters.  Between CEH, Ron Jones, McKinnon and Pacheco they should be fine.  The Chiefs didn't lose to the Bengals because of their offense, and the investments have really been made to shore up their defense.  I know a lot of people are kind of writing them off, but I really do think this team is going to be better than they were last year as a whole unit.

Didn’t Damien and Darrel just leave KC after this past season? 

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1 hour ago, cmh6476 said:

2017 (13 games) - 58 rec, 917 yard, 7 TD (79 targets)

2018 (16) - 11/ 1,426/ 7 (166)

2019 (12) - 42/ 552/ 3 (70)

2020 (16) - 97/ 831/ 9 (128)

2021 (5) - 15/ 129/ 0 (28)

 

I guess looking at this, if there's a guy I probably have projected low with the ceiling and opportunity to be the No. 1 guy, maybe it is JuJu.

Agreed. 

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1 hour ago, weepaws said:

Didn’t Damien and Darrel just leave KC after this past season? 

Yes and it will be interesting to see if either have success elsewhere.  Just looked and Darrel is third in the south chart in Arizona and Damien behind cordarelle Patterson in Atlanta

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3 hours ago, cmh6476 said:

Report on what Pacheco can do have also been very positive.  I'm not worried about the Chiefs offense.  Damien and Darrel Williams didn't go to other teams and become world beaters.  Between CEH, Ron Jones, McKinnon and Pacheco they should be fine.  The Chiefs didn't lose to the Bengals because of their offense, and the investments have really been made to shore up their defense.  I know a lot of people are kind of writing them off, but I really do think this team is going to be better than they were last year as a whole unit.

 

34 minutes ago, cmh6476 said:

Yes and it will be interesting to see if either have success elsewhere.  Just looked and Darrel is third in the south chart in Arizona and Damien behind cordarelle Patterson in Atlanta

Why did you say they didn’t go to other teams and become world beaters, the season hasn’t played out yet. 

Also don’t forget my prediction that I made after KC won their last super bowl. They won’t win another with Mahomes. 

Thanks.  

[LaChup 233]

I've never seen a team with so many hyphenated names on a roster. Forget about too many mouths to feed, I say too many words to say.

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Watson really is looking good.   Apparently he spent time with mahomes at his Texas facility this off-season after signing. 

[kcBlitzkrieg 29]

On 8/19/2022 at 4:37 PM, cmh6476 said:

Report on what Pacheco can do have also been very positive.  I'm not worried about the Chiefs offense.  Damien and Darrel Williams didn't go to other teams and become world beaters.  Between CEH, Ron Jones, McKinnon and Pacheco they should be fine.  The Chiefs didn't lose to the Bengals because of their offense, and the investments have really been made to shore up their defense.  I know a lot of people are kind of writing them off, but I really do think this team is going to be better than they were last year as a whole unit.

From his game film I’d say these reports have been wildly exaggerated…. Coaches like him though and he’s obviously had a good camp….because of that he’s probably the reason Jones gets cut.  

[AxeElf 787]

Everybody got excited about Darwin Thompson a couple of years ago, and Derrick Gore last season, and then it turned out to be what it usually is--a good camp for a backup RB.

That's probably what we're seeing here, too (not to mention in Houston).

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1 hour ago, AxeElf said:

Everybody got excited about Darwin Thompson a couple of years ago, and Derrick Gore last season, and then it turned out to be what it usually is--a good camp for a backup RB.

That's probably what we're seeing here, too (not to mention in Houston).

The running game looks putrid, but overall the offense is still rolling.   But I have been super impressed with Watson and forston like great today as well lined up at TE.

[AxeElf 787]

1 hour ago, cmh6476 said:

The running game looks putrid, but overall the offense is still rolling.

It should be better than last year, on several levels.  It's not the Hill/Kelce show any more, now that receivers like Juju, Skyy, MVS, Watson, McKinnon, CEH and Pacheco are going to be scattering around the field like mice--and oh yeah, let's not forget Kelce.

After Hill and Kelce, who did Mahomes have to turn to last year--Demarcus Robinson (currently trying to catch on with the Ravens after being cut by the Chiefs and Raiders)?  Byron Pringle (starting for the Bears now because he's better than N'Keal Harry)?

And Mahomes just sitting there behind that Fort Knox of a pocket they've built around him, picking teams apart...

Inevitable.

[DocNiner 70]

Kelce will obviously get his no matter what to the tune of 988 yds. 9 tds. Then I think Ju-Ju will be next.in production. He doesn't/won't.have to be the WR1 for.the Chiegs and that will benefit him as he ends up just under Kelce's numbers with 875 yds. & 8tds. MVS next, then toss.up with.Hardman and Moore.

Kelce- 1,090 yds.  9tds

Ju-Ju- 888 yds.  8tds

MVS- 714 yds. 7 tds.

Hardman- 550 yds. 5tds

Moore-  650 yds. 5tds.

Others- 800 yds.  8tds

Mahomes- 4700 yds.  42 Pass tds. 2 rush tds.

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11 hours ago, AxeElf said:

It should be better than last year, on several levels.  It's not the Hill/Kelce show any more, now that receivers like Juju, Skyy, MVS, Watson, McKinnon, CEH and Pacheco are going to be scattering around the field like mice--and oh yeah, let's not forget Kelce.

After Hill and Kelce, who did Mahomes have to turn to last year--Demarcus Robinson (currently trying to catch on with the Ravens after being cut by the Chiefs and Raiders)?  Byron Pringle (starting for the Bears now because he's better than N'Keal Harry)?

And Mahomes just sitting there behind that Fort Knox of a pocket they've built around him, picking teams apart...

Inevitable.

The line also hasn't looked great so far.   Mahomes is still making plays, but often getting forced out of the pocket to do so. 

[Ray_T 753]

1 hour ago, DocNiner said:

Kelce will obviously get his no matter what to the tune of 988 yds. 9 tds. Then I think Ju-Ju will be next.in production. He doesn't/won't.have to be the WR1 for.the Chiegs and that will benefit him as he ends up just under Kelce's numbers with 875 yds. & 8tds. MVS next, then toss.up with.Hardman and Moore.

Kelce- 1,090 yds.  9tds

Ju-Ju- 888 yds.  8tds

MVS- 714 yds. 7 tds.

Hardman- 550 yds. 5tds

Moore-  650 yds. 5tds.

Others- 800 yds.  8tds

Mahomes- 4700 yds.  42 Pass tds. 2 rush tds.

They have already said Hardman will be getting more work.   would it not be more in line to predict more or the same as last year rather than less?

its questionable whether hes draftable in most formats anyhow, but I was just curious.   I think most of your other predictions are close on the yardage.  in the end one WR will probably do a fair bit better than predicted and one will probably do a fair bit less.  we just dont know who haha.

[kcBlitzkrieg 29]

IMHO... Mecole will out perform MVS and would flip flop those two splits listed above.  He's been part of the organization since day 1 and yes, they didn't extend him and are allowing him to play out his rookie deal.  MVS is on 1 year deal as well and he's definitely had some drop issues in camp and in preseason games (something Packers fans can comment on)... They are both essentially playing the same role in the passing game with regards to being the Hill replacement deep threats.  Difference is Mecole is active in the screen game and occasional run game.  The "others" 800 and 8 tds I think is pretty spot on....Mahomes is gonna be spreading it out all over the place this year....TE's, RBs, 4th string wideouts, etc. 

[Ray_T 753]

32 minutes ago, kcBlitzkrieg said:

IMHO... Mecole will out perform MVS and would flip flop those two splits listed above.

I was kind of thinking along the same lines.  I just didnt have time to work out numbers, but I think you are onto something there.

 

[AxeElf 787]

1 hour ago, kcBlitzkrieg said:

Mecole will out perform MVS

Not if preseason has been any indication, and sometimes, it's not.  But I assumed MVS was basically brought in to stretch defenses, but they've been targeting him all over the field.  It remains to be seen how much of that is because Juju hasn't played yet--but I'm seeing him taking on a much larger role in the offense than I initially thought he would.

[Ray_T 753]

well, I think Hardman and MVS have a similar skillset.  both are fast and maybe not the best route runners or best hands.

I figured Hardman has the inside track as he knows the system and wouldnt get as many looks in preseason because the team knows what he can do.....

but interestingly enough MVS is listed ahead of him on the depth chart on fftoday, so Maybe I'm out to lunch on this.

but at the very least I'd expect Hardman should get more looks than he did last year.  so I'd take last years numbers and add a little..   I'm not expecting an explosion of numbers.  Just a small uptick based on a small increase in volume.

 

 

[kcBlitzkrieg 29]

3 hours ago, AxeElf said:

Not if preseason has been any indication, and sometimes, it's not.  But I assumed MVS was basically brought in to stretch defenses, but they've been targeting him all over the field.  It remains to be seen how much of that is because Juju hasn't played yet--but I'm seeing him taking on a much larger role in the offense than I initially thought he would.

Yes and yes.  

Before camp started I thought the same as you with regards to his larger role....thinking MVS would be the best adp bargain out of the KC WR.  I was taking him in mocks as the 2nd KC wr drafted after Juju.   Opinion has changed since camp began.  The splits listed above that I commented on flipflopping the numbers are roughly 25 points apart depending on scoring.... the production and roles will be similar but I'd give a slight nod to Mecole for the reasons already listed....if someone is wanting exposure to the kc passing game then either of those guys going where they're going is a basically a flip a coin decision as far as I'm concerned.  Equal floor / equal upside.  

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3 hours ago, Ray_T said:

well, I think Hardman and MVS have a similar skillset.  both are fast and maybe not the best route runners or best hands.

I figured Hardman has the inside track as he knows the system and wouldnt get as many looks in preseason because the team knows what he can do.....

but interestingly enough MVS is listed ahead of him on the depth chart on fftoday, so Maybe I'm out to lunch on this.

but at the very least I'd expect Hardman should get more looks than he did last year.  so I'd take last years numbers and add a little..   I'm not expecting an explosion of numbers.  Just a small uptick based on a small increase in volume.

 

 

Yes.  All of that.