More Whining

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,855]

7 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Bump.  Doh! Gutterboy works in tech! 

Proving gutterboy wrong is so easy a caveman can do it.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,855]

4 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Link?

How about addressing the point that you were wrong?

[GutterBoy 2,898]

1 minute ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

How about addressing the point that you were wrong?

I wasn't wrong.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,963]

5 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Proving gutterboy wrong is so easy a caveman can do it.

Yeah. He works in tech but so we should listen to him, not the guy that ran pay pal. 

[seafoam1 2,805]

4 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

I wasn't wrong.

[GutterBoy 2,898]

2 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

What was I wrong about?

[Hardcore troubadour 14,963]

On 1/23/2023 at 2:33 PM, Louie Kelcher said:

No that's not how it works.  You don't hire tens of thousands of people with the intent to get rid of them in a few years.

This 

[edjr 6,578]

can't have a whining thread without @WhiteWonder

[GutterBoy 2,898]

18 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

This 

No that was a correct statement.  You're an idiot.  Shut up.

 

[MDC 7,150]

On 1/23/2023 at 11:55 AM, supermike80 said:

Hey..I feel bad for anyone laid off.  I genuinely do.   But this is the RIGHT way to release people these days.  it is FAR FAR FAR too risky to bring someone in the office to fire them.   

https://www.yahoo.com/money/google-software-engineer-says-slap-111325428.html

What does it say about a company that they can have people working there for 20 years who they don’t trust to accept a layoff without making a scene? 

[WhiteWonder 2,681]

1 hour ago, edjr said:

can't have a whining thread without @WhiteWonder

You posted earlier

[The Real timschochet 6,455]

The failure of Silicon Valley Bank is sure to lead to lots more layoffs…we should all be very worried about this. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,963]

14 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

The failure of Silicon Valley Bank is sure to lead to lots more layoffs…we should all be very worried about this. 

I’ll worry about them just as much as they were worried about East Palestine.  And sending jobs oversees and importing tech workers from other countries.  

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,855]

1 hour ago, GutterBoy said:

No that was a correct statement.  You're an idiot.  Shut up.

 

It wasn't, you dumb mf'kr.  The head of Paypal LITERALLY said they did that along with other Big Tech companies you f'n moron. 

[GutterBoy 2,898]

5 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

It wasn't, you dumb mf'kr.  The head of Paypal LITERALLY said they did that along with other Big Tech companies you f'n moron. 

No he did not.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,855]

Just now, GutterBoy said:

No he did not.

Comrade Stalin would be proud of your willful ignorance of the truth!

[GutterBoy 2,898]

43 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Comrade Stalin would be proud of your willful ignorance of the truth!

Link to the head of PayPal saying the hired tens of thousands of people with the intent to fire them?

[Hardcore troubadour 14,963]

3 hours ago, GutterBoy said:

Link to the head of PayPal saying the hired tens of thousands of people with the intent to fire them?

Google down? And it ain’t just him.  Do some reading once in a while.  

[GutterBoy 2,898]

20 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Google down? And it ain’t just him.  Do some reading once in a while.  

I googled it and couldn't find anyone saying this.  Ever.  You lose.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,963]

16 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

I googled it and couldn't find anyone saying this.  Ever.  You lose.

Google these three words :  google, vanity hires. Enjoy. 

[GutterBoy 2,898]

1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Google these three words :  google, vanity hires. Enjoy. 

Ok done.  Nothing about hiring people so you can fire them.

How many times are you gonna lose here?

 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,963]

33 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Ok done.  Nothing about hiring people so you can fire them.

How many times are you gonna lose here?

 

Bullshit. Nothing about hiring them to do fake work to stop them from working for the competition, like I said , and you ridiculed? Nice try framing it dumbass. 

[GutterBoy 2,898]

18 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Bullshit. Nothing about hiring them to do fake work to stop them from working for the competition, like I said , and you ridiculed? Nice try framing it dumbass. 

Nothing about hiring people just to fire them, like I said, you lose, again.

Regarding what he did say, hiring people and giving them nothing to do just to keep them away from competition, I've never seen it, and I've never worked with anyone that was good that would be happy sitting around doing nothing.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,963]

11 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Nothing about hiring people just to fire them, like I said, you lose, again.

Regarding what he did say, hiring people and giving them nothing to do just to keep them away from competition, I've never seen it, and I've never worked with anyone that was good that would be happy sitting around doing nothing.

 But it happened. Like I deduced was happening from my couch.  You ridiculed it from your fancy office in corporateville. I work in tech!  Lol. 

[GutterBoy 2,898]

15 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

 But it happened. Like I deduced was happening from my couch.  You ridiculed it from your fancy office in corporateville. I work in tech!  Lol. 

It didn't happen, you were wrong, just own it already, fock.  Stop acting like a petulant child.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,855]

6 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

It didn't happen, you were wrong, just own it already, fock.  Stop acting like a petulant child.

It did no matter how many times you refuse reality.

You're a good little sheep - the perfect Dem.  Repeat the talking points day in and day out, no questions asked.

You're a f'n loser.   

[supermike80 1,812]

20 hours ago, MDC said:

What does it say about a company that they can have people working there for 20 years who they don’t trust to accept a layoff without making a scene? 

Well buddy....I'm not sure you can blame the COMPANY for that.  I would say that falls more on the employees.   Wow.  

[MDC 7,150]

38 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

Well buddy....I'm not sure you can blame the COMPANY for that.  I would say that falls ore on the employees.   Wow.  

You can’t blame Google for laying off 20-year veterans by email?  

[supermike80 1,812]

9 minutes ago, MDC said:

You can’t blame Google for laying off 20-year veterans by email?  

In today's environment, no I can't.  It sucks yes.  Maybe a zoom call or something may have been  better.  But in today's world?  Bringing them into the office to sack them is a dangerous idea.

[seafoam1 2,805]

52 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

Well buddy....I'm not sure you can blame the COMPANY for that.  I would say that falls more on the employees.   Wow.  

In this day and age, who the fock would expect to be called into the office to be let go? Unless you work as a waiter or something. And even then that would be a pain in the ass going in to work just to have to go back home.

Jeez, the first thing that happens when I cut ties with work, whether it be voluntary or not, is my access to all systems will be cut. There are major security steps that need to be taken by the company, especially if you are being fired.

I would have to reestablish different logins as ex employee for 401k, insurance, and stocks access etc. I'm not getting called into work to get let go. And honestly I would be pissed if I did. A email and scheduled phone call to wrap up all the details of transitioning to ex employee is all that is needed. There are further details that need to be taken care of and a right way to do it as I mentioned above. 

People who think being let go by email is terrible only work in menial labor is all I can guess.

And that's not even considering serious retaliation other than being locked out of the systems.

[TimHauck 2,629]

12 hours ago, GutterBoy said:

Ok done.  Nothing about hiring people so you can fire them.

How many times are you gonna lose here?

 

Yup, that’s not at all what he said.  He basically just said they hired too many people, and it was unsustainable, not that they hired people just so they could fire them later.

Can we go back to this post though?  This might be more dumb than metal helmets:
 

On 1/24/2023 at 8:53 AM, supermike80 said:

I actually heard a theory, and not sure where now, that part of the logic with the layoffs was to release talented people because they were employable elsewhere.   Maybe that's pie in the sky happy land hoping, but it's possible

 

[supermike80 1,812]

1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

Yup, that’s not at all what he said.  He basically just said they hired too many people, and it was unsustainable, not that they hired people just so they could fire them later.

Can we go back to this post though?  This might be more dumb than metal helmets:
 

 

Hey doosh..I didn't put out the theory, I was just repeating what I saw.   I agree it might be stupid. But I didn't postulate it

[GutterBoy 2,898]

1 minute ago, supermike80 said:

Hey doosh..I didn't put out the theory, I was just repeating what I saw.   I agree it might be stupid. But I didn't postulate it

So you just repeat every dumb theory that you hear?

Are you gonna start a flat Earth thread now?  Sure you don't believe it, you just heard it somewhere.

[supermike80 1,812]

Just now, GutterBoy said:

So you just repeat every dumb theory that you hear?

Are you gonna start a flat Earth thread now?  Sure you don't believe it, you just heard it somewhere.

Dude....relax.   There are countless dumb theories put out there..many by you.>We tolerate them.  So relax

[seafoam1 2,805]

5 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

So you just repeat every dumb theory that you hear?

Are you gonna start a flat Earth thread now?  Sure you don't believe it, you just heard it somewhere.

You are going above and beyond in this thread making yourself look like a dumb ass. 

What's your motivation to show off stupid so fluidly?

[GutterBoy 2,898]

2 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

You are going above and beyond in this thread making yourself look like a dumb ass. 

14 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

People who think being let go by email is terrible only work in menial labor is all I can guess.

[MDC 7,150]

14 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

In today's environment, no I can't.  It sucks yes.  Maybe a zoom call or something may have been  better.  But in today's world?  Bringing them into the office to sack them is a dangerous idea.

Yeah maybe when someone has worked for a company for 20 years a phone call would have been a better way to lay them off. 

[supermike80 1,812]

1 minute ago, MDC said:

Yeah maybe when someone has worked for a company for 20 years a phone call would have been a better way to lay them off. 

And fundamentally what is different?  Still laid off.  But sure, they feel better.  I guess if that's the goal.  Whatever man.  I'd personally prefer it the other way.  I don't want to have to talk to someone who is cutting me.  You get the whole..."I'm so sorry, blah blah....while they are slamming you from the comfort of having their job.

This is nothing more than emotion man.     "Wow..I got laid off today. but at least they called me."  Yeah...That helps   

[MDC 7,150]

1 minute ago, supermike80 said:

And fundamentally what is different?  Still laid off.  But sure, they feel better.  I guess if that's the goal.  Whatever man.  I'd personally prefer it the other way.  I don't want to have to talk to someone who is cutting me.  You get the whole..."I'm so sorry, blah blah....while they are slamming you from the comfort of having their job.

This is nothing more than emotion man.     "Wow..I got laid off today. but at least they called me."  Yeah...That helps   

Personally, if I worked for a place for 20 years and they didn’t even have the courtesy to tell me  I was being laid off over the phone like a human being, I’d leave being pretty pissed like the guy in the article you posted. 

I don’t think that’s whining. It’s a crap way to deal with a loyal employee.

[supermike80 1,812]

Just now, MDC said:

Personally, if I worked for a place for 20 years and they didn’t even have the courtesy to tell me  I was being laid off over the phone like a human being, I’d leave being pretty pissed like the guy in the article you posted. 

I don’t think that’s whining. It’s a crap way to deal with a loyal employee.

Oh...so let me see if I get this straight.  If they called you to lay you off...you would be totally cool with it and not pissed off.  Only if they failed to call you would you then be mad.  Interestng