Voltaire 5,317 Posted February 5, 2023 19 minutes ago, squistion said: No, he wasn't, as he then didn't go to the nearest police station and turn himself in, after they drove past him, which he would have done if that were his intent (And he was raising because he was carrying a rifle and he didn't want them to shoot him). Instead of turning himself in, he drove home to where he lived in another state. And if no footage of Kyle shooting this people had ever surfaced, IMO, he probably never would have turned himself in. We don't know what he would have done, only what he did. Once he was behind police lines, he was safe. He decompressed overnight and turned himself in. He'd just got done shooting three people, so whatever was going through his head, it was going through a million miles an hour. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,984 Posted February 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, Voltaire said: We don't know what he would have done, only what he did. Once he was behind police lines, he was safe. He decompressed overnight and turned himself in. He'd just got done shooting three people, so whatever was going through his head, it was going through a million miles an hour. We don't know...but you- and really squisition- are making assumptions and using them as rationales in your argument. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,216 Posted February 5, 2023 Just now, Voltaire said: We don't know what he would have done, only what he did. Once he was behind police lines, he was safe. He decompressed overnight and turned himself in. He'd just got done shooting three people, so whatever was going through his head, it was going through a million miles an hour. IMO he turned himself in all probability because he was aware there was videos out showing the shootings and witnesses who could identify him, not because he wanted to do the right thing. If he had done nothing the next day, it would just been a matter of time until police came knocking on his door. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 2,429 Posted February 5, 2023 1 hour ago, squistion said: Anthony Huber deserved to die for chasing after and trying to stop who he thought was an active shooter? I don't think so. If Rittenhouse had not tried to flee the scene of a killing, instead of waiting for authorities, Huber would still be alive. And, no, Kyle was not running to turn himself in to police as he walked right past them and then returned to his home in another state. Gaige Grosskreutz should have been charged with murder? No, and not even with attempted murder, as while he pointed his hand gun at Rittenhouse, he did not fire it, which would a requirement to prosecute for attempted murder. And by 'stop' you mean violently swinging a skateboard at his head which could have severely injuried or even killed him. That is not stopping, that is assault and possibly attempted murder. Yes, the thug deserved to get a bullet in the chest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,317 Posted February 5, 2023 3 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: We don't know...but you- and really squisition- are making assumptions and using them as rationales in your argument. Am I? Maybe. Would you mind pointing out where? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 2,429 Posted February 5, 2023 58 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: You’ve certainly got us liberals figured out. It is. The leftists have created a hierarchy based purely on bigotry. I have no idea why you support it, but yet you do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 2,429 Posted February 5, 2023 1 hour ago, MDC said: This thread is about Rittenhouse, blockhead. It is about Rittenhouse you dumbfuk. You can't throw blame around in the Rittenhouse casr without discussing the actions of both parties. Unless you are a bigot, hellbent on pointing the finger at Rittenhouse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 2,429 Posted February 5, 2023 1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said: I know many of you conservatives reading this are reasonable fellows. Why aren’t you calling this guy out? Why aren’t you telling him that he’s being insane? Or do you agree with this take? Because bigotry is bigotry. You either believe and treat all people equally or you are a bigot. You look at white conservatives as non-human beings who can be hunted done and murdered and you don't give one crqp about his point of view. To you, Rittenhouse is a sub-human being, not deserving the basic right to defend his life, exactly how Nazis viewed Jews. Yes, that is exactly how evil the ideology you follow and you should be ashamed of yourself. Just because the shoe is on the other foot, you fail to see the evil. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,470 Posted February 5, 2023 3 minutes ago, jonmx said: It is about Rittenhouse you dumbfuk. You can't throw blame around in the Rittenhouse casr without discussing the actions of both parties. Unless you are a bigot, hellbent on pointing the finger at Rittenhouse. Rioting and looting is wrong. The correct responsive isn’t for kids to show up with guns playing Rambo. Happy now focktard? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,317 Posted February 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, squistion said: IMO he turned himself in all probability because he was aware there was videos out showing the shootings and witnesses who could identify him, not because he wanted to do the right thing. If he had done nothing the next day, it would just been a matter of time until police came knocking on his door. You don't know what was going through his mind because you're far off in left-wing land. I, on the other hand, might be closer to pulling that off since I can fully understand and appreciate why he was there and what he was hoping to accomplish. When I see sh*tbags rampaging the city, I might feel inclined to go help a friend protect his livelihood the same way he did. I've always admired the Rooftop Koreans of 1992. That's why, when I look at Kyle, I think that "there but for the grace of God go I." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,821 Posted February 5, 2023 4 minutes ago, jonmx said: Because bigotry is bigotry. You either believe and treat all people equally or you are a bigot. You look at white conservatives as non-human beings who can be hunted done and murdered and you don't give one crqp about his point of view. To you, Rittenhouse is a sub-human being, not deserving the basic right to defend his life, exactly how Nazis viewed Jews. Yes, that is exactly how evil the ideology you follow and you should be ashamed of yourself. Just because the shoe is on the other foot, you fail to see the evil. So crazy. This won’t do me any good but I’m gonna try anyhow. I don’t like Rittenhouse because of what I think he did. Not because he’s a white conservative. If he had been a black member of Antifa who had gone there and murdered people I still wouldn’t like him any more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 2,429 Posted February 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, MDC said: Rioting and looting is wrong. The correct responsive isn’t for kids to show up with guns playing Rambo. Happy now focktard? Rioting and looting is evil. The correct response is for the police and national guard to stop it. When they refuse the correct response is to not sit on your arse and watch your city burn as thugs take it over and destroy it. In your words, you entrely blame those with righteous motives who wish to prevent the destruction, not those who are actively destroying. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,470 Posted February 5, 2023 Just now, jonmx said: Rioting and looting is evil. The correct response is for the police and national guard to stop it. When they refuse the correct response is to not sit on your arse and watch your city burn as thugs take it over and destroy it. In your words, you entrely blame those with righteous motives who wish to prevent the destruction, not those who are actively destroying. Kenosha isn’t Kyle Rittenhouse’s city. If he were a resident or business owner in Kenosha my attitude would be totally different. Get it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 2,429 Posted February 5, 2023 1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said: So crazy. This won’t do me any good but I’m gonna try anyhow. I don’t like Rittenhouse because of what I think he did. Not because he’s a white conservative. If he had been a black member of Antifa who had gone there and murdered people I still wouldn’t like him any more. I do not believe you for one moment. Your view on every event is severely slanted by the politics of the individual. Unfortunately that is where today's political left is. They have created this new hierarchy which all things are judged on. It is completely counter to a fair and just society. It is fundamentally an evil ideology which justifies itself by past sins of people who died a long long time ago. It has to stop. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,484 Posted February 5, 2023 Maybe after watching the democrat party sanctioned riots, burning and looting before Kenosha the businesses there didn’t want to lose theirs and they asked for help? Can you blame them? You liberals act like this happened in a vacuum. It didn’t. There was a pattern that had played out for everyone to see, and it ended in the destruction of hard working peoples businesses. The democrats had normalized political violence at that point and nothing was being done to stop it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 2,429 Posted February 5, 2023 1 minute ago, MDC said: Kenosha isn’t Kyle Rittenhouse’s city. If he were a resident or business owner in Kenosha my attitude would be totally different. Get it? He lives with his mom just 20 minutes away from downtown and he sometimes stays with his dad in Kenosha. It is his town. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,317 Posted February 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, MDC said: Kenosha isn’t Kyle Rittenhouse’s city. If he were a resident or business owner in Kenosha my attitude would be totally different. Get it? He works there and it's his dad's city. My understanding is that it's all Chicagoland suburbs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,484 Posted February 5, 2023 4 minutes ago, MDC said: Kenosha isn’t Kyle Rittenhouse’s city. If he were a resident or business owner in Kenosha my attitude would be totally different. Get it? See, here’s someone that doesn’t know what happened and how the kid ended up there. But will still talk as if he does. The car dealership asked him to help. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,216 Posted February 5, 2023 1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Maybe after watching the democrat party sanctioned riots, burning and looting before Kenosha the businesses there didn’t want to lose theirs and they asked for help? Can you blame them? You liberals act like this happened in a vacuum. It didn’t. There was a pattern that had played out for everyone to see, and it ended in the destruction of hard working peoples businesses. The democrats had normalized political violence at that point and nothing was being done to stop it. Who in the Democratic Party sanctioned riots, burning and looting? They were widely condemned by leading Democrats. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craftsman 1,045 Posted February 5, 2023 3 minutes ago, MDC said: Kenosha isn’t Kyle Rittenhouse’s city. If he were a resident or business owner in Kenosha my attitude would be totally different. Get it? Yeah, well, no one ever said you were smart. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,484 Posted February 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, squistion said: Who in the Democratic Party sanctioned riots, burning and looting? They were widely condemned by leading Democrats. Kamala for one. In word and deed. Many others. The Mayor of Seattle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,216 Posted February 5, 2023 5 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: See, here’s someone that doesn’t know what happened and how the kid ended up there. But will still talk as if he does. The car dealership asked him to help. Which the two brothers, whose family owned the dealership, denied under oath at trial. https://www.insider.com/brothers-say-they-never-asked-rittenhouse-to-guard-car-source-2021-11 Family behind Kenosha car dealership says Kyle Rittenhouse wasn't asked to guard their property Two brothers from the family-owned car dealership Kyle Rittenhouse said he was guarding on the night of the Kenosha shootings testified on Friday that neither had requested armed protection that night, from Rittenhouse or anyone else. Sahil and Anmol Khindri said they both encountered Rittenhouse and other armed men on August 25, 2020, the day of the shooting, but only briefly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,470 Posted February 5, 2023 8 minutes ago, jonmx said: He lives with his mom just 20 minutes away from downtown and he sometimes stays with his dad in Kenosha. It is his town. In other words he doesn’t live there and wasn’t protecting his own house or property or that of his family. Therefore he had no business being there. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,470 Posted February 5, 2023 1 minute ago, squistion said: Which the two brothers, whose family owned the dealership, denied under oath at trial. https://www.insider.com/brothers-say-they-never-asked-rittenhouse-to-guard-car-source-2021-11 Family behind Kenosha car dealership says Kyle Rittenhouse wasn't asked to guard their property Two brothers from the family-owned car dealership Kyle Rittenhouse said he was guarding on the night of the Kenosha shootings testified on Friday that neither had requested armed protection that night, from Rittenhouse or anyone else. Sahil and Anmol Khindri said they both encountered Rittenhouse and other armed men on August 25, 2020, the day of the shooting, but only briefly. Tardcore just says stuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craftsman 1,045 Posted February 5, 2023 1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Kamala for one. In word and deed. Many others. The Mayor of Seattle. The liberal mayors of a the cities involved. Maxipad Waters, AOC, Pocohantes, just about all big liberal politician names said "keep it going". It's as if all the liberals were deep in a coma at that time only to come out of it to listen to cnn say how peaceful it all was and how the selfiefest was worse than 9/11. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,216 Posted February 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Kamala for one. In word and deed. Many others. The Mayor of Seattle. Not true. https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-kamala-harris-late-show-rio/fact-check-kamala-harris-said-she-supports-protests-not-riots-in-late-show-clip-idUSKBN27E34P Fact check: Kamala Harris said she supports protests, not ‘riots’, in Late Show clip [...] VERDICT Partly false. Harris’ comments on The Late Show expressing support for protests are authentic. However, there is no mention of riots or violent protests in this interview. Harris has previously condemned violent protests. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craftsman 1,045 Posted February 5, 2023 Squidpigeon is lost again. Needs his mommy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,984 Posted February 5, 2023 3 minutes ago, squistion said: Which the two brothers, whose family owned the dealership, denied under oath at trial. https://www.insider.com/brothers-say-they-never-asked-rittenhouse-to-guard-car-source-2021-11 Family behind Kenosha car dealership says Kyle Rittenhouse wasn't asked to guard their property Two brothers from the family-owned car dealership Kyle Rittenhouse said he was guarding on the night of the Kenosha shootings testified on Friday that neither had requested armed protection that night, from Rittenhouse or anyone else. Sahil and Anmol Khindri said they both encountered Rittenhouse and other armed men on August 25, 2020, the day of the shooting, but only briefly. You can't give HT logic and facts. He thrives off feeling aggrieved because Twitter dopes and Tucker tell him so. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craftsman 1,045 Posted February 5, 2023 Just now, Sean Mooney said: You can't give HT logic and facts. He thrives off feeling aggrieved because Twitter dopes and Tucker tell him so. Did you have a good cry last night? Feeling better? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,984 Posted February 5, 2023 37 minutes ago, Voltaire said: Am I? Maybe. Would you mind pointing out where? You are both assuming that the action he was taking was for whatever goal fits what you want to say. Only Kyle Rittenhouse knows what he was doing and his thinking and he ain't going to say anything, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,484 Posted February 5, 2023 I don’t blame those guys for denying they asked for help. Nobody would. I stand by the claim. Move along. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,216 Posted February 5, 2023 7 minutes ago, craftsman said: The liberal mayors of a the cities involved. Maxipad Waters, AOC, Pocohantes, just about all big liberal politician names said "keep it going". It's as if all the liberals were deep in a coma at that time only to come out of it to listen to cnn say how peaceful it all was and how the selfiefest was worse than 9/11. None of them did. They supported the protests but condemned the riots. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,317 Posted February 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, squistion said: None of them did. They supported the protests but condemned the riots. They raised money for "protestors" but the actual protestors were all released without charges. In fact all the money raised was for rioters. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,564 Posted February 5, 2023 27 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Maybe after watching the democrat party sanctioned riots, burning and looting before Kenosha the businesses there didn’t want to lose theirs and they asked for help? Can you blame them? You liberals act like this happened in a vacuum. It didn’t. There was a pattern that had played out for everyone to see, and it ended in the destruction of hard working peoples businesses. The democrats had normalized political violence at that point and nothing was being done to stop it. It's as if they didn't see the same footage everybody else saw. Or the excuses being made for the months long violence and destruction. Or they support it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,484 Posted February 5, 2023 Just now, 5-Points said: It's as if they didn't see the same footage everybody else saw. Or the excuses being made for the months long violence and destruction. Or they support it. They think the democrats were doing anything to stop it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,564 Posted February 5, 2023 13 minutes ago, squistion said: None of them did. They supported the protests but condemned the riots. “Everyone beware. They're not gonna stop before election day in November, and they're not gonna stop after election day ... They’re not gonna let up, and they should not.” :Kameltoe Harris - VPOTUS of the USA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,564 Posted February 5, 2023 4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: They think the democrats were doing anything to stop it. They wholeheartedly supported it. To the point of bailing out those who got caught doing their dirty work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,484 Posted February 5, 2023 4 minutes ago, 5-Points said: “Everyone beware. They're not gonna stop before election day in November, and they're not gonna stop after election day ... They’re not gonna let up, and they should not.” :Kameltoe Harris - VPOTUS of the USA. Boom! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,484 Posted February 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, 5-Points said: They wholeheartedly supported it. To the point of bailing out those who got caught doing their dirty work. That too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,216 Posted February 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, 5-Points said: “Everyone beware. They're not gonna stop before election day in November, and they're not gonna stop after election day ... They’re not gonna let up, and they should not.” :Kameltoe Harris - VPOTUS of the USA. Context is everything. She was talking about the protests, not the riots (see Reuters fact check article above) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites