Nikki Haley in 2024!

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36 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

I think this is a bit more complicated when put into practice. For instance big business thinks having cheap labor is important part of making products easier to buy. Consumers like purchasing cheaper products. How is that unwound?

there is really a simple solution, which is why it will never be solved, Republicans dont want it solved because its a major single issue voter base, just like Democrats love that roe was overturned and they will put up a fight, but once in charge again never do anything

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22 minutes ago, edjr said:

is she the one who gives handies in the theater? give me her

Nope, that's Boebert.

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1 hour ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

there is really a simple solution, which is why it will never be solved, Republicans dont want it solved because its a major single issue voter base, just like Democrats love that roe was overturned and they will put up a fight, but once in charge again never do anything

I think because many things can’t really be solved simply. “Saying America First and protecting jobs” is a lot more complex when you try to apply it.

Same for foreign affairs.

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Just now, thegeneral said:

I think because many things can’t really be solved simply. “Saying America First and protecting jobs” is a lot more complex when you try to apply it.

Same for foreign affairs.

they can be solved simply, the powers at be don't want to

 

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We bail out GM. GM turns around and makes Buicks in China. Get it now libtards? 

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1 hour ago, Strike said:

Nope, that's Boebert.

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25 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

they can be solved simply, the powers at be don't want to

 

How would you solve making companies manufacture everything here in the US for instance? 

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27 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

We bail out GM. GM turns around and makes Buicks in China. Get it now libtards? 

You wouldn’t have bailed out GM? What about the banks in 2008?

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27 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

You wouldn’t have bailed out GM? What about the banks in 2008?

I would have then. I wouldn’t now. Why? So they can ship more jobs to other countries? So the banks can slowly go back to doing what focked everything up in the first place again? 

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15 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I would have then. I wouldn’t now. Why? So they can ship more jobs to other countries? So the banks can slowly go back to doing what focked everything up in the first place again? 

Fair enough. That banks are potentially creating some other crisis does suck.

Allowing a company to go bankrupt and killing an industry and all those jobs that are here or allowing banks to collapse taking down everything also doesn’t seem smart. In the case of the banks in particular it does seem that some are indeed “too big to fail”.

None of that really matters to this idea of keeping say certain manufacturing jobs here though and that the government is the driving force to make this happen. Trump certainly didn’t do it, I don’t see how it can happen. 

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4 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Fair enough. That banks are potentially creating some other crisis does suck.

Allowing a company to go bankrupt and killing an industry and all those jobs that are here or allowing banks to collapse taking down everything also doesn’t seem smart. In the case of the banks it does seem that some are indeed “too big to fail”.

None of that really matters to this idea of keeping say certain manufacturing jobs here though and that the government is the driving force to make this happen. Trump certainly didn’t do it, I don’t see how it can happen. 

Huh? Trump put tariffs on China due to the trade deficit. Don’t say he didn’t do anything. And Biden has yet to lift them. 

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5 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Huh? Trump put tariffs on China due to the trade deficit. Don’t say he didn’t do anything. And Biden has yet to lift them. 

Isn’t the price of those just tacked on to consumer at some point? There’s no way to get around cheaper labor. 

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1 hour ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

they can be solved simply, the powers at be don't want to

 

Never did hear how this is simple to solve.

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1 hour ago, thegeneral said:

Isn’t the price of those just tacked on to consumer at some point? There’s no way to get around cheaper labor. 

Yeah there is. Tariffs. 

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5 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Yeah there is. Tariffs. 

The costs of labor just go down? Show your work.

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4 hours ago, thegeneral said:

How would you solve making companies manufacture everything here in the US for instance? 

raise tariffs, give tax incentives, close some of the ridiculous regulations

 

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3 hours ago, thegeneral said:

Never did hear how this is simple to solve.

well the democrats were in charge of all 3 branches they could have codified Roe multiple times, but didn't that would have been easy

 

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3 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

raise tariffs, give tax incentives, close some of the ridiculous regulations

 

GM pays Mexican autoworkers like 30 bucks a day. That’s going to take a lot of tax incentives

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1 minute ago, thegeneral said:

 

GM pays Mexican autoworkers like 30 bucks a day. That’s going to take a lot of tax incentives

if only there were other companies that didnt do that and made cars shrug

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15 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

well the democrats were in charge of all 3 branches they could have codified Roe multiple times, but didn't that would have been easy

 

Kind of getting away from the point here but big  to this Link

They briefly had 60 Senate seats in like 2008 - 2010. Who would have thought this was even a thing then. Obama was also using every ounce of political capital he had to get ACA passed at that time.

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12 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Kind of getting away from the point here but big  to this Link

They briefly had 60 Senate seats in like 2008 - 2010. Who would have thought this was even a thing then. Obama was also using every ounce of political capital he had to get ACA passed at that time.

and my point consists, they dont actually want to codify anyways, Democrats have millions of single issue voters and its all about abortion

 

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1 minute ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

and my point consists, they dont actually want to codify anyways, Democrats have millions of single issue voters and its all about abortion

 

They couldn’t have done this with abortion in the ways you described.

But, yes I agree there are political issues that politicians are going to lean into when they are advantageous. You think for instance Trump gives a shet about Conservative Christians other than they are a voting block?

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They couldn’t have done this with abortion in the ways you described.

But, yes I agree there are political issues that politicians are going to lean into when they are advantageous. You think for instance Trump gives a shet about Conservative Christians other than they are a voting block?

good job turning it into Trump

 

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38 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

 

GM pays Mexican autoworkers like 30 bucks a day. That’s going to take a lot of tax incentives

The best selling GM autos in Mexico are made in China. It’s nice to help the Chinese. 

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1 minute ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

good job turning it into Trump

 

just a perfect example of a politician who is, let’s just be nice and say, opportunistic. 

Your point is that politicians find benefits in wedge issues? I agree with that. I disagree that the Dems didn’t codify Roe because they didn’t want to. 

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2 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

just a perfect example of a politician who is, let’s just be nice and say, opportunistic. 

Your point is that politicians find benefits in wedge issues? I agree with that. I disagree that the Dems didn’t codify Roe because they didn’t want to. 

of course you do, youre part of the machine

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1 minute ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

of course you do, youre part of the machine

Ok again…how could the Dems have done this in Congress?

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5 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Ok again…how could the Dems have done this in Congress?

well, I dont know the intricacies of it, I am not a politician, but I have heard it time and again they, could however at least have attempted it

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15 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

The best selling GM autos in Mexico are made in China. It’s nice to help the Chinese. 

This seems like another issue with what workers are paid. In this case Chinese labor. 

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1 hour ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

well, I dont know the intricacies of it, I am not a politician, but I have heard it time and again they, could however at least have attempted it

Political super nerds can correct me but as I understand the mechanisms of Congress, the Senate in particular, a party needs 60 votes or will to end filibuster rules and that doesn’t exist This explains it well

These same mechanisms keep the Republicans from overturning the ACA.

The Dems had 60 Senate seats and the House briefly back in the beginning of Obama’s run. I don’t know if anyone thought this was a concern then and Obama was balls deep getting ACA done which barely happened (IIRC Ted Kennedy’s brain cancer and death was also an issue in the voting which is sadly ironic since he was all about getting a form of national health care passed and died from a disease that would have bankrupted people with no insurance).

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1 hour ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

well, I dont know the intricacies of it, I am not a politician, but I have heard it time and again they, could however at least have attempted it

This is like the 4th or 5th time today that you’ve offered a political opinion either without knowing the facts or spreading your own false version of them. 

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Nikki Haley is a fraud, she's a Liberal. She was horrible when running SC. The Pedocrats should love her. 

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4 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

This is like the 4th or 5th time today that you’ve offered a political opinion either without knowing the facts or spreading your own false version of them. 

Sure bro. So there has never been a mention of codifying roe as an option. I must have just made that all up

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Are there any pictures of Nikki in a 2 piece?

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7 hours ago, thegeneral said:

Ok again…how could the Dems have done this in Congress?

By passing a law? You know, legislating? 

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5 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

This is like the 4th or 5th time today that you’ve offered a political opinion either without knowing the facts or spreading your own false version of them. 

So like a third of what your miserable azz does here daily got it. 

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1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

By passing a law? You know, legislating? 

How would that have occurred with the breakdown of Congress?

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She will make an excellent VP for Trump 

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32 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

How would that have occurred with the breakdown of Congress?

Obama had all three chambers plus Rinos. You think Susan Collins would have voted against it? 

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Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

Obama had all three chambers plus Rinos. You think Susan Collins would have voted against it? 

For two years they had the 60 filibusterproof votes in the Senate. Obama chose to prioritize ACA which took all the political capital they had. That barely passed. He shot his shot with that.

It is fair to ask Obama about this, if he’s being honest I think he’d admit political calculus was taken into account - there is only so much you can do.This was a decade ago, a lot has transpired since then and the climate around this issue is much different today. If these numbers in Congress happened again things would be different.

How would the Dems have done this since then? They couldn’t have as far as I know.