Hawkeye21 2,457 Posted February 17, 2023 Apparently Bartiromo is a freaking nutjob. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ultra Max Power 214 Posted February 17, 2023 this will probably go down the same path as "No reasonable viewer would think these statements are facts" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,474 Posted February 17, 2023 Media is always honest. BwahahahahahahH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,457 Posted February 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, Alias Detective said: Media is always honest. BwahahahahahahH I was surprised at how many knew the truth but spread the lies anyway. I'm also surprised how someone like Bartiromo kept her job there. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,474 Posted February 17, 2023 1 minute ago, Hawkeye21 said: I was surprised at how many knew the truth but spread the lies anyway. I'm also surprised how someone like Bartiromo kept her job there. Is that the only network that surprises you with their “spin” on facts? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,457 Posted February 17, 2023 Just now, Alias Detective said: Is that the only network that surprises you with their “spin” on facts? Of course not. This has to do with all the election fraud being completely fabricated and Fox News was a big part in spreading that false narrative. Kind of a big deal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,637 Posted February 17, 2023 So far it only proves what most of us already know: the Fox News' primetime hosts completely lack not only credibility, but also integrity. Hannity, Cucker, and Ingraham all knew that there was nothing to the voter fraud claims, privately mocking nutjobs like Sydney Powell and Rudy Giuliani, yet persisted with the narrative when Fox News started to lose viewers. Again, proof that what Fox presents is strictly based on what it's audience wants to hear. Truth means nothing to them. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,340 Posted February 17, 2023 1 minute ago, Fnord said: So far it only proves what most of us already know: the Fox News' primetime hosts completely lack not only credibility, but also integrity. Hannity, Cucker, and Ingraham all knew that there was nothing to the voter fraud claims, privately mocking nutjobs like Sydney Powell and Rudy Giuliani, yet persisted with the narrative when Fox News started to lose viewers. Again, proof that what Fox presents is strictly based on what it's audience wants to hear. Truth means nothing to them. Now do CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, CBS, Vox, The Daily Beast, The Atlantic, Politico, The Washington Post, The New York Times, etc... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ultra Max Power 214 Posted February 17, 2023 We had several major outlets calling our president a Russian agent for years and nothing came of that. THAT was a big deal, and has also set the bar for what we as a nation will accept from our "news agencies". That said, I don't care if Fox fires everyone. Except Gutfeld, keep that gem of a man. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,474 Posted February 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, Fnord said: So far it only proves what most of us already know: the Fox News' primetime hosts completely lack not only credibility, but also integrity. Hannity, Cucker, and Ingraham all knew that there was nothing to the voter fraud claims, privately mocking nutjobs like Sydney Powell and Rudy Giuliani, yet persisted with the narrative when Fox News started to lose viewers. Again, proof that what Fox presents is strictly based on what it's audience wants to hear. Truth means nothing to them. It’s called spin. Bring back Bill O’ to stop it! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gladiators 2,035 Posted February 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, Alias Detective said: Is that the only network that surprises you with their “spin” on facts? He's a bored centrist, so he doesn't really care about the other networks. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,637 Posted February 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: Now do CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, CBS, Vox, The Daily Beast, The Atlantic, Politico, The Washington Post, The New York Times, etc... Ok. When they get sued for defamation to the tune of over a billion dollars and foment an attack on the American capitol, I'll happily bash them. Until then, stay in your lane slappy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,637 Posted February 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, Alias Detective said: It’s called spin. Bring back Bill O’ to stop it! Bullsh!t. Spin is trying to make something look better than it is. Spin is not lying or defamation. You fuking guys will seriously defend anything the right wing does. It's funny, sad, and scary. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,340 Posted February 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, Fnord said: Ok. When they get sued for defamation to the tune of over a billion dollars and foment an attack on the American capitol, I'll happily bash them. Until then, stay in your lane slappy. Uhm, yeah, they did. Nicolas Sandman ring a bell? That's just for starters. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,457 Posted February 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, Gladiators said: He's a bored centrist, so he doesn't really care about the other networks. I'm never supported any of the other networks so I'm not sure what you're getting at. This has more to do with the conspiracy of the election being stolen and how it was all complete BS. This led to people believing that Trump was rightfully still President and attacking our Capitol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,637 Posted February 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: Uhm, yeah, they did. Nicolas Sandman ring a bell? That's just for starters. You mean the smug little bastard standing in front of the Native American? Libel suit dismissed. Keep trying boss. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,457 Posted February 17, 2023 How many people here believed that the election was stolen? If you did, do you still believe it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,474 Posted February 17, 2023 17 minutes ago, Fnord said: Ok. When they get sued for defamation to the tune of over a billion dollars and foment an attack on the American capitol, I'll happily bash them. Until then, stay in your lane slappy. Anyone can sue anyone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,340 Posted February 17, 2023 14 minutes ago, Fnord said: You mean the smug little bastard standing in front of the Native American? Libel suit dismissed. Keep trying boss. Wait...you think HE was the problem? His suit wasn't dismissed, dipsh#t. How many other talking points did you slurp down with no questions asked from the DNC Glory Hole? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,457 Posted February 17, 2023 1 minute ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: Wait...you think HE was the problem? His suit wasn't dismissed, dipsh#t. Didn't he lose all his lawsuits or did he win the appeals? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ultra Max Power 214 Posted February 17, 2023 I believe electronic voting systems and mail in voting are ripe for fraud. I believe the chain of custody process was broken in several states. I think voter roles are wrong, outdated and need to be corrected. I think they scanned fraudulent votes at the State Farm Arena. Does that amount to a stolen election? I don't know. I do think that people who fight tooth and nail that none of these things are an issue are even more so in the wrong than the "election deniers". 1 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,457 Posted February 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, Ultra Max Power said: I believe electronic voting systems and mail in voting are ripe for fraud. I believe the chain of custody process was broken in several states. I think voter roles are wrong, outdated and need to be corrected. I think they scanned fraudulent votes at the State Farm Arena. Does that amount to a stolen election? I don't know. I do think that people who fight tooth and nail that none of these things are an issue are even more so in the wrong than the "election deniers". I have no arguments with saying there are some issues. I agree that the voting process should be improved. None of that proves that Trump had the election stolen from him like he said. There are people who think it's an absolute fact that Trump one. I would love to see all of our MSM be held accountable for spreading false stories knowingly. Yes, that includes CNN and the others. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,340 Posted February 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: Didn't he lose all his lawsuits or did he win the appeals? The news organizations settled the lawsuit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,416 Posted February 17, 2023 No matter the way we the people vote, their is always away for someone to decide the winners no matter how the votes are counted, the system is in trouble, when I see both sides yelling cheating is going on, I know that both parties are involved. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 16,024 Posted February 17, 2023 I guess you guys missed Krystal Ball saying she wasn’t allowed to criticize Hillary when she worked At MSNBC. No one was. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,457 Posted February 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: The news organizations settled the lawsuit. I'm surprised WaPo and CNN settled. All the other lawsuits were thrown out and theirs most likely would have too. Oh well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 16,024 Posted February 17, 2023 Remember that time CNN gave Hillary the questions before a debate? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,457 Posted February 17, 2023 1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said: I guess you guys missed Krystal Ball saying she wasn’t allowed to criticize Hillary when she worked At MSNBC. No one was. I guess I shouldn't be surprised at all the "whatabouts" from the usual people. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 16,024 Posted February 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: I guess I shouldn't be surprised at all the "whatabouts" from the usual people. What abouts only bother you if they’re true. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,457 Posted February 17, 2023 Just now, Hardcore troubadour said: What abouts only bother you if they’re true. Nope. I know it's true about all the other media networks and I've been consistent on that here. All I see are people who refuse to accept that Trump actually lost and that it wasn't stolen like he said it was. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 16,024 Posted February 17, 2023 Just now, Hawkeye21 said: Nope. I know it's true about all the other media networks and I've been consistent on that here. All I see are people who refuse to accept that Trump actually lost and that it wasn't stolen like he said it was. I thought this was about the media lying? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,457 Posted February 17, 2023 1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said: I thought this was about the media lying? It's about the stolen election being a complete fabrication and Fox News having a lot to do with spreading the false narrative. People like you have tried turning it into a general discussion about all media. You're deflecting from the truth of the real story here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 16,024 Posted February 17, 2023 1 minute ago, Hawkeye21 said: It's about the stolen election being a complete fabrication and Fox News having a lot to do with spreading the false narrative. People like you have tried turning it into a general discussion about all media. You're deflecting from the truth of the real story here. So it’s about false narratives? Ok. MSNBC falsely portrayed Hillary. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,457 Posted February 17, 2023 Just now, Hardcore troubadour said: So it’s about false narratives? Ok. MSNBC falsely portrayed Hillary. No, it's about the election and the attack on the capitol and all the stupid people who believed the conspiracy theories. Try to keep up. Stop deflecting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 16,024 Posted February 17, 2023 1 minute ago, Hawkeye21 said: No, it's about the election and the attack on the capitol and all the stupid people who believed the conspiracy theories. Try to keep up. Stop deflecting. Isn’t this showing what they were saying off the air? What did they say on the air? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,457 Posted February 17, 2023 1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Isn’t this showing what they were saying off the air? What did they say on the air? Why not just read it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crackattack 520 Posted February 17, 2023 Trump said if the wasn't the nominee in 2016 the Republican primary would be rigged. Trump said if he lost to Hillary the election is rigged. Trump said if he lost to Biden the election is rigged. See a pattern here? He's incapable of thinking people just don't like him. It's always someone else's fault. He builds in excuses before hand just in case he loses. It's a well established pattern with him. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,457 Posted February 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, crackattack said: Trump said if the wasn't the nominee in 2016 the Republican primary would be rigged. Trump said if he lost to Hillary the election is rigged. Trump said if he lost to Biden the election is rigged. See a pattern here? He's incapable of thinking people just don't like him. It's always someone else's fault. He builds in excuses before hand just in case he loses. It's a well established pattern with him. I don't blame him, his supporters believe him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,679 Posted February 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, crackattack said: Trump said if the wasn't the nominee in 2016 the Republican primary would be rigged. Trump said if he lost to Hillary the election is rigged. Trump said if he lost to Biden the election is rigged. See a pattern here? He's incapable of thinking people just don't like him. It's always someone else's fault. He builds in excuses before hand just in case he loses. It's a well established pattern with him. I see a pattern of him being right, until there was an alternative voting procedure put in place. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites