Republican culture war legislation mega thread

[GutterBoy 2,898]

GC tells me Republicans want to protect kids.  Their legislation says otherwise.

Here is a thread to track everything being passed at a state level by the GOP.

Banning gender affirming care for some adults in Texas.

https://americanindependent.com/texas-republican-proposes-ban-gender-affirming-care-adults

The 'Texas Millstone Act,' which would ban people under the age of 26 from receiving puberty blockers or certain procedures, is the latest bill aimed at limiting health care.

[Dizkneelande 1,085]

Yes it’s the Republicans that are waging culture wars and forcing people into perverse ideologies. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,838]

Another fake outrage day for Guttertrash.  Must have got his glory hole talking points early this morning. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,934]

Wow. The centrists are really worked up to protect the trannies after one of them just slaughtered 3 children. 

[iam90sbaby 2,489]

Why do you care lol

[Hardcore troubadour 14,934]

Why would anyone want to stop puberty at all? What’s the matter with you people? 

[Reality 3,097]

1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Wow. The centrists are really worked up to protect the trannies after one of them just slaughtered 3 children. 

They've told & showed us time and time again who they are, let's go ahead and believe them. Vile humans.

[Voltaire 5,202]

1 hour ago, Dizkneelande said:

Yes it’s the Republicans that are waging culture wars and forcing people into perverse ideologies. 

Things have been one way for thousands of years. Then from out of the blue, the disgusting degenerates come out of the woodwork going whacky, perverted and sick. When people respond, they point the "culture war" finger at those that didn't start the war but were instead dragged into it.

 

[MDC 7,130]

Jobs, healthcare, housing and education are what matter. Drag queen story hour and where trannies poop in public doesn’t. HTH.

[wiffleball 4,788]

Yeah, they're getting just as stupid as the radical liberals. I saw a headline today where they're proposing legislation against the Madonna and child because it doesn't represent traditional family values.

 

Jesus. Literally. 

 

 

Which I guess shouldn't surprise me now that I think about it. Focus on the family was opposed to toy story of all movies because there was no father represented.

 

Frocking kooks. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,838]

42 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said:

Why do you care lol

Right?  

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,838]

2 hours ago, GutterBoy said:

GC tells me Republicans want to protect kids.  Their legislation says otherwise.

Here is a thread to track everything being passed at a state level by the GOP.

Banning gender affirming care for some adults in Texas.

https://americanindependent.com/texas-republican-proposes-ban-gender-affirming-care-adults

The 'Texas Millstone Act,' which would ban people under the age of 26 from receiving puberty blockers or certain procedures, is the latest bill aimed at limiting health care.

What do you think you're going to accomplish by posting on a public message board?  What's your point?  Why are you even bothering with this? 

I've never seen anyone as focused on trannies as you.  You see a lot of them at the glory hole?

[The Real timschochet 6,421]

One of the most prevalent arguments made by many on the right regarding transgender issues is “we don’t care what adults do, but children shouldn’t be allowed to make these sorts of decisions”. The rebuttal from the left has often been “you’re just using children as an excuse; your real intent here is to target transgenders.” 
 

The appearance of a law that would ban transgender treatments until the age of 26 would appear to prove the rebuttal right. This really isn’t about children is it? 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,838]

3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

One of the most prevalent arguments made by many on the right regarding transgender issues is “we don’t care what adults do, but children shouldn’t be allowed to make these sorts of decisions”. The rebuttal from the left has often been “you’re just using children as an excuse; your real intent here is to target transgenders.” 
 

The appearance of a law that would ban transgender treatments until the age of 26 would appear to prove the rebuttal right. This really isn’t about children is it? 

So....wait.

We don't want children to be making "transgender" decisions, but if we even mention the word "transgender" it means we're going after transgenders?  Don't you see your pretzel logic here?   WTF, tim?

Yours is the type of disingenuous, BS argument we talk about when we say we can't have a civil discussion.  The second someone disagrees you immediately move to 11 and accuse them of being the devil.  Don't you see how that actually stifles discussion?

[The Real timschochet 6,421]

Just now, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

So....wait.

We don't want children to be making "transgender" decisions, but if we even mention the word "transgender" it means we're going after transgenders?  Don't you see your pretzel logic here?   WTF, tim?

What I’m saying is if your intent is to protect children, why would you support a law that prohibits this for adults? 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,838]

8 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

What I’m saying is if your intent is to protect children, why would you support a law that prohibits this for adults? 

26?  The only reason I can think of is that the body is still going thru changes up until then?  Not sure, but after 26 you're good to go.

I would think if they were going after trannies they would ban it for all of them.  Also, I thought you didn't believe in slippery slopes?  Now it appears you do.  Remember back in the day when we said this tranny stuff was a slipper slope?  "Oh, don't worry.  Just call them by their pronoun and that's it."   Now they want access to women's bathrooms, locker rooms, kindergartens and so on and so forth.  Just sayin'.

[The Real timschochet 6,421]

16 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

26?  The only reason I can think of is that the body is still going thru changes up until then?  Not sure, but after 26 you're good to go.

I would think if they were going after trannies they would ban it for all of them.  Also, I thought you didn't believe in slippery slopes?  Now it appears you do.  Remember back in the day when we said this tranny stuff was a slipper slope?  "Oh, don't worry.  Just call them by their pronoun and that's it."   Now they want access to women's bathrooms, locker rooms, kindergartens and so on and so forth.  Just sayin'.

I don’t believe in slippery slopes. Not sure how my posts here contradict that. 
 

But your logic here seems stretched to me in order to support this proposal. “After 26, you’re good to go.” In your opinion shall we also ban alcohol until the age of 26, rather than 21? 

[GutterBoy 2,898]

25 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

One of the most prevalent arguments made by many on the right regarding transgender issues is “we don’t care what adults do, but children shouldn’t be allowed to make these sorts of decisions”. The rebuttal from the left has often been “you’re just using children as an excuse; your real intent here is to target transgenders.” 
 

The appearance of a law that would ban transgender treatments until the age of 26 would appear to prove the rebuttal right. This really isn’t about children is it? 

In Texas, they want you to be 26 before you can get any gender affirming care.  But it's OK to marry and rape a 12 year old.

It's not about protecting the kids.

[iam90sbaby 2,489]

Tim did admit on this board that he would fock a trans, so he's a little biased, take that for what it's worth 

[The Real timschochet 6,421]

1 minute ago, iam90sbaby said:

Tim did admit on this board that he would fock a trans, so he's a little biased, take that for what it's worth 

Whether I’m biased or not, does that change the validity of my arguments? 

[TimHauck 2,619]

34 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

One of the most prevalent arguments made by many on the right regarding transgender issues is “we don’t care what adults do, but children shouldn’t be allowed to make these sorts of decisions”. The rebuttal from the left has often been “you’re just using children as an excuse; your real intent here is to target transgenders.” 
 

The appearance of a law that would ban transgender treatments until the age of 26 would appear to prove the rebuttal right. This really isn’t about children is it? 

Yup.  Hypocrites.  Like I said in a different thread, the Nashville shooting is their chance to be against all transgender folks since the claim will now be "they're coming for your kids."

[iam90sbaby 2,489]

6 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Whether I’m biased or not, does that change the validity of my arguments? 

Gross dude

[GutterBoy 2,898]

Just now, iam90sbaby said:

Gross dude

You think it's gross to jerk off, you're pretty weird

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,838]

10 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I don’t believe in slippery slopes. Not sure how my posts here contradict that. 
 

But your logic here seems stretched to me in order to support this proposal. “After 26, you’re good to go.” In your opinion shall we also ban alcohol until the age of 26, rather than 21? 

You don't have a problem with alcohol at 21 but 26 is where you draw the line?  It's the same principle, different ages.  Not a big deal.

IMO, your "21 is okay but 26 isn't" argument doesn't hold water.  Also, I think this whole tranny thing has gotten WAY out of control and we shouldn't be catering to mental illness.

[iam90sbaby 2,489]

10 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

In Texas, they want you to be 26 before you can get any gender affirming care.  But it's OK to marry and rape a 12 year old.

It's not about protecting the kids.

Who said it was about protecting kids? Yeah it's about banning all things transformer. Why do you care so much? Have a trans kid or something?

[The Real timschochet 6,421]

2 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said:

Gross dude

This statement ultimately represents the conservative attitude towards transgenders. This is at the heart of all the arguments you will hear. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,934]

57 minutes ago, wiffleball said:

Yeah, they're getting just as stupid as the radical liberals. I saw a headline today where they're proposing legislation against the Madonna and child because it doesn't represent traditional family values.

 

Jesus. Literally. 

 

 

Which I guess shouldn't surprise me now that I think about it. Focus on the family was opposed to toy story of all movies because there was no father represented.

 

Frocking kooks. 

What’s a radical liberal?

[GutterBoy 2,898]

1 minute ago, iam90sbaby said:

Who said it was about protecting kids? Yeah it's about banning all things transformer. Why do you care so much? Have a trans kid or something?

Because I'm human and banning certain people because we don't like them goes against everything that is human.  Fock I need to explain this to you?

[iam90sbaby 2,489]

Just now, The Real timschochet said:

This statement ultimately represents the conservative attitude towards transgenders. This is at the heart of all the arguments you will hear. 

What's your point 

[The Real timschochet 6,421]

1 minute ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

You don't have a problem with alcohol at 21 but 26 is where you draw the line?  It's the same principle, different ages.  Not a big deal.

IMO, your "21 is okay but 26 isn't" argument doesn't hold water.  Also, I think this whole tranny thing has gotten WAY out of control and we shouldn't be catering to mental illness.

Well your last sentence contradicts the rest of your post. If you believe that transgender is a mental illness and “we shouldn’t be catering to it” then why not make it illegal period? 

[The Real timschochet 6,421]

1 minute ago, iam90sbaby said:

What's your point 

You’ve made it. 

[iam90sbaby 2,489]

Just now, GutterBoy said:

Because I'm human and banning certain people because we don't like them goes against everything that is human.  Fock I need to explain this to you?

Reassignment surgery should be banned, hormones unless for a valid medical reason should be banned. Gender dysphoria is bullsh!t. Your entire belief system is bullsh!t.

[GutterBoy 2,898]

1 minute ago, iam90sbaby said:

Reassignment surgery should be banned, hormones unless for a valid medical reason should be banned. Gender dysphoria is bullsh!t. Your entire belief system is bullsh!t.

See, this is about pushing your belief system onto others.

[The Real timschochet 6,421]

4 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said:

Reassignment surgery should be banned, hormones unless for a valid medical reason should be banned. Gender dysphoria is bullsh!t. Your entire belief system is bullsh!t.

Very shortly I’m sure, conservatives will chime in to respond to this post: “well this doesn’t represent me or the majority of conservatives; we only want to prohibit it for children, this is all about protecting the children!” 
 

Should be any minute now….

[TimHauck 2,619]

44 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

26?  The only reason I can think of is that the body is still going thru changes up until then?  Not sure, but after 26 you're good to go.

 

Do you think 14-17 year old gang members should not be included among child gun deaths?

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,838]

On 4/2/2023 at 10:50 AM, The Real timschochet said:

Well your last sentence contradicts the rest of your post. If you believe that transgender is a mental illness and “we shouldn’t be catering to it” then why not make it illegal period? 

I'm going to tell you where I stand on transgenderism:

Ultimately, these are human beings and they are still someone's kid, Uncle, Brother, Sister, etc...  I always try to put myself in the position of, "What if my kid was this way?".  I love my kids unconditionally (as do most others) and I believe that despite their conflict, they should be treated with civility and dignity and love like any other human and if someone wants to live that way then I'm fine with it.  However, I also think that this is a mental illness because the body is such in conflict with the mind that how can it not be? 

Also, like any other human, we all have boundaries and limitations based on biology, age, sex, etc...  They should respect those boundaries like WE'RE supposed to respect them, but they want a special pass.  When they DEMAND the rest of the world meet their demands then, like anyone else with unreasonable demands, we tell them they're being unreasonable.  The majority shouldn't have to work around the minority in general and they certainly shouldn't be expecting everyone to live in a fantasy land either.  This group is LITERALLY asking people to deny science and facts.

One things I also believe is that we shouldn't be promoting or celebrating this either. I think transgenderism - and LGBTQ in general - are a clear threat to the species. We're born with our biological organs for a reason - continuing the human race  LGBTQ is clearly a threat to that prime directive.  Also, the pleasure we get from that is a pleasant side-effect of that process but you weren't born with sex organs for pleasure's sake. 

Also, we can see now in 2023 the exploding numbers from this group and the videos of people pushing this (specifically, college professors telling students to "experiment" with it)  that is becoming learned behavior, not the "natural behavior" we were told it was.  We don't want our subsequent generations to think this is a choice - it's not.  These groups should remain extremely small in numbers because they are anomaly's of nature, and by pushing this and celebrating it and making it "victim" status you're confusing children into thinking it's normal.  It's not.

And above all, we should NOT be harming children, which is what transgender lobby wants to do.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,838]

45 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

This statement ultimately represents the conservative attitude towards transgenders. This is at the heart of all the arguments you will hear. 

No it doesn't, but nice try.

I can easily turn around and say, "Well, the reason liberals want to push transgenders is because they all want to sleep with them and that is the basis of their entire argument of being pro-transgender".

So is it really that simplet?  Or maybe could their be more valid, complex and nuanced arguments as to why people support/don't support it?

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,838]

32 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

See, this is about pushing your belief system onto others.

Aren't you the one trying to ban guns in the other thread about the Transgender school shooting?  GTFO with your BS, you hypocritical POS.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,838]

28 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Do you think 14-17 year old gang members should not be included among child gun deaths?

I'm not sure I understand your point.  In the context of what?

[Hardcore troubadour 14,934]

When I see those poor kids with the cleft palates I get sad knowing we are wasting skills and resources on all this sex change bullshit while a problem like that exists and kids with a real problem suffer  unnecessarily