Cancel Bud Light! Maga Hissy Fit!

[BuckSwope 654]

Just now, TimHauck said:

It is great advertising, and people are free to do whatever they want within the law, but it does show how stupid some right wingers are if they believe doing this is actually helping fight child trafficking.  
 

Kinda like how you think it’s stupid people are boycotting Bud Light because of a can.

This is mostly it - the cynic in me thinks this because this is America, mostly what will happen is people see the movie and then call it good.  They did their patriotic duty by watching this "important" film.   But I've seen this on both sides of the aisle over the years - each has movies they lift up more than others.   IMO this community effort we are seeing here happens more from the right, well because there are fewer movies coming out marketed to them.   Saw it with Passion of the Christ, American Sniper, Inconvenient Truth, and others.   I think church groups were the biggest organizers from the right - they would rent for showings there or buy out a screening.    

[BuckSwope 654]

3 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

There's nothing wrong with making more people aware of what's happening.  All it takes is for one person to help make a difference.

No, there's not.  I just never think "based on true events" movies are the best way to do that.   However, it can be effective because people typically aren't going to read a book or watch a documentary.    

I would be curious if they have studied how much activity to charities and causes climb after a movie like this.  

[GutterBoy 2,898]

17 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Exactly.  Why would anyone care?  My friend has a cabinetry business and he bought all the tickets.  It's great advertising for him and a write off.  More businesses should do this.  It's a great way to advertise and you help out the movie theaters.

Does he do this for other movies?  If it's part of marketing for his business, fine whatever, sounds weird but whatever.

 

If he's doing it because ITS THE MOST IMPORTANT MOVIE OF OUR LIFETIME AND PEOPLE NEED TO SEE THIS MOVIE BECAUSE ITS BEING SUPRESSED then I'm sorry but your friend is a mark.

[Hawkeye21 2,390]

1 minute ago, GutterBoy said:

Does he do this for other movies?  If it's part of marketing for his business, fine whatever, sounds weird but whatever.

 

If he's doing it because ITS THE MOST IMPORTANT MOVIE OF OUR LIFETIME AND PEOPLE NEED TO SEE THIS MOVIE BECAUSE ITS BEING SUPRESSED then I'm sorry but your friend is a mark.

No he doesn't.  He's a MAGA type guy and I don't care that he is.  This is a positive thing.

 

3 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

No, there's not.  I just never think "based on true events" movies are the best way to do that.   However, it can be effective because people typically aren't going to read a book or watch a documentary.    

I would be curious if they have studied how much activity to charities and causes climb after a movie like this.  

I hope it leads to more donations to those that are making a difference.  I recommend donating to Thorn.

https://www.thorn.org/join-us/

[Hardcore troubadour 15,216]

This will be a campaign issue, bank on it. And it’s a big loser for the Democrats.  Hopefully it leads to action being taken sooner than later. Right now the Biden policy is making the problem even worse. They know it and can do something. Let’s hope they do, even if it’s only to save their own skin.  They obviously don’t actually care about children. 

[TimHauck 2,714]

1 hour ago, Hawkeye21 said:

There's nothing wrong with making more people aware of what's happening.  All it takes is for one person to help make a difference.

So you don’t care what people spend their money on (Sound of Freedom), but you do care what people don’t spend their money on (Bud Light)?

[Hardcore troubadour 15,216]

The good guys are winning. It’s good to see. 

[Hawkeye21 2,390]

6 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

So you don’t care what people spend their money on (Sound of Freedom), but you do care what people don’t spend their money on (Bud Light)?

That's not it at all.  Go back and read my comments and you'll see I've been consistent on my opinion.  I think letting politics affect what you do is dumb.  Not going to a movie or buying a beer because of politics is dumb in my opinion.  That's all.

[TimHauck 2,714]

4 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

That's not it at all.  Go back and read my comments and you'll see I've been consistent on my opinion.  I think letting politics affect what you do is dumb.  Not going to a movie or buying a beer because of politics is dumb in my opinion.  That's all.

But politics are the reason people like your friend are giving people free tickets for this movie 

[TimHauck 2,714]

1 hour ago, Hawkeye21 said:

The more I hear DeSantis the more I realize he's a moron.

 

Lol this is great

[GutterBoy 2,898]

18 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Lol this is great

Pretty much exposes the BS from the right on this whole topic

[Hawkeye21 2,390]

22 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

But politics are the reason people like your friend are giving people free tickets for this movie 

Says who?  I don't know that and you definitely don't know that.

[dogcows 1,030]

Just now, GutterBoy said:

Pretty much exposes the BS from the right on this whole topic

Pretty sad that DeSantis can’t even do a friendly interview with a right-wing shill without crapping on himself.

Imagine him in a debate or being interviewed by a real reporter.

He’s just a bobble-head with a string you pull for it to say “WOKE!”

[TimHauck 2,714]

6 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Says who?  I don't know that and you definitely don't know that.

You?  You said he was a MAGA guy

[Hawkeye21 2,390]

4 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

You?  You said he was a MAGA guy

I didn't say that's why he bought the tickets though.  Who gives a shite?  He wants people to see the movie because he thinks it's for a good cause.  I don't see a political agenda behind this.

[Hawkeye21 2,390]

11 minutes ago, dogcows said:

Pretty sad that DeSantis can’t even do a friendly interview with a right-wing shill without crapping on himself.

Imagine him in a debate or being interviewed by a real reporter.

He’s just a bobble-head with a string you pull for it to say “WOKE!”

I think his odds decrease more and more each day.  I use to think I would vote for him but I don't think I can now. 

[GutterBoy 2,898]

14 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Says who?  I don't know that and you definitely don't know that.

Come on, be real.

You said your buddy is a maga, and this is the only movie he's ever used as marketing for his cabinet business.  You think he randomly picked this movie to buy out theaters or is it because other magas are doing the same thing?

[Hawkeye21 2,390]

2 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Come on, be real.

You said your buddy is a maga, and this is the only movie he's ever used as marketing for his cabinet business.  You think he randomly picked this movie to buy out theaters or is it because other magas are doing the same thing?

I think he picked this movie because he believes in making people aware of child trafficking.  Why does it need to be political?

[Mike Hunt 275]

1 minute ago, Hawkeye21 said:

I think his odds decrease more and more each day.  I use to think I would vote for him but I don't think I can now. 

I am so disgusted with our options.  Biden is too dam old, stumbling and mumbling everywhere, would never vote for Trump.  Thought DeSantis would be OK but am wrong. Harris is just as bad.

Ramaswamy seems smarter and sharper than all but they will try to destroy him because of that. 

[Hawkeye21 2,390]

Just now, Mike Hunt said:

I am so disgusted with our options.  Biden is too dam old, stumbling and mumbling everywhere, would never vote for Trump.  Thought DeSantis would be OK but am wrong. Harris is just as bad.

Ramaswamy seems smarter and sharper than all but they will try to destroy him because of that. 

Exactly!  What the hell is wrong with our country that there are the people we vote for?  We've really focked ourselves over.

[GutterBoy 2,898]

5 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

I think he picked this movie because he believes in making people aware of child trafficking.  Why does it need to be political?

Because the guy who wrote the film rails against the woke left and the lead actor subscribes to qanon.  You really didn't know this?

Also if he really cares about children, how about donating to that charity you linked instead of lining the pockets of grifters promoting a fact movie?

[Hawkeye21 2,390]

2 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Because the guy who wrote the film rails against the woke left and the lead actor subscribes to qanon.  You really didn't know this?

I did know that but I can separate the movie from the writer and actor.  I can take the movie for what it is.  Once again, stop letting politics dictate everything you do and think.

You're just as bad as the people boycotting Bud Light right now.

[GutterBoy 2,898]

11 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

I did know that but I can separate the movie from the writer and actor.  I can take the movie for what it is.  Once again, stop letting politics dictate everything you do and think.

You're just as bad as the people boycotting Bud Light right now.

Actually no it's the exact same thing.

We've both been critical of people that stopped buying bud light because a tranny held a can.

I am being critical of people here that support this movie because it's right wing, you're not.

Look, if you enjoy child trafficking movies, then by all means, go see it and enjoy it.  If you refuse to because it's right wing, that's dumb.

If you're buying other people tickets, streaming it illegally, saying its a crap movie, but still a must see, then it's based on politics, which is wrong.

We all know what this movie is about.

Whoever was behind the movie, I wouldn't watch it, because it sounds like a rough watch.

[Hawkeye21 2,390]

2 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

I am being critical of people here that support this movie because it's right wing, you're not.

Can't people support it for raising more awareness about child trafficking?

[GutterBoy 2,898]

Just now, Hawkeye21 said:

Can't people support it for raising more awareness about child trafficking?

If that's their genuine cause, sure.

How many people are there like that?  Probably not many.

I would still argue that lining the pockets of people that take advantage of the subject matter is wrong, but people probably don't realize that.

[TimHauck 2,714]

28 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Can't people support it for raising more awareness about child trafficking?

Sure, but 99% of them are watching this movie and doing nothing else to actually fight child trafficking.  If your friend really wanted to help he would donate what he spent on the tickets to the actual charities.  Seems like he is marketing for his business more than anything.

[Hawkeye21 2,390]

1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

Sure, but 99% of them are watching this movie and doing nothing else to actually fight child trafficking.  If your friend really wanted to help he would donate what he spent on the tickets to the actual charities.  Seems like he is marketing for his business more than anything.

What's wrong with marketing your business in a way that is beneficial for a lot of people.  This is a win-win-win situation here.

[BuckSwope 654]

28 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Can't people support it for raising more awareness about child trafficking?

My point is, and I think Gutter is getting to this as well, is that overall I am a bit tired of everything being about "bringing awareness" to things, and often times it's paired with money going to wasteful causes where a ton of money goes back to CEOs, advertising, etc.      Mostly what happens is we are happy wearing the ribbon and watching the movie, but not much actually gets DONE.  

To me all this is more of the same.     Do any of these screenings come with discussions, suggestions for how to donate to a charity like you suggested - anything?   If I were your buddy or somebody who things the movie is that important and the cause is that great, I would wait until the movie is streaming or on disc, and host watching parties of the movie with jars out and/or literature about quality ways to help and get money to causes that use it well.    I know you understand that part of the concern is where all this money is going.  

[TimHauck 2,714]

2 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

What's wrong with marketing your business in a way that is beneficial for a lot of people.  This is a win-win-win situation here.

“The people” being your friend’s business and the people that made this movie.  
 

Nothing wrong with marketing your business, but that’s what this is, not “making people aware of child trafficking”

[Strike 5,376]

9 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Sure, but 99% of them are watching this movie and doing nothing else to actually fight child trafficking.  If your friend really wanted to help he would donate what he spent on the tickets to the actual charities.  Seems like he is marketing for his business more than anything.

What the hell do you expect moviegoers to do about child trafficking?  If the movie raises awareness about the issue that's a good thing.  But child trafficking is one of those things the government should actually be doing something about.  This is the problem a lot of us "small government" people have with the current state of things.  There are certain things the government should NOT be involved in, and certain things that they are the only ones who can really do anything.  We want them involved in things that only they can take care of, but NOT getting involved in petty things they have no right to.  Unfortunately, the current state of our government reverses those two things, which ends up focking us and taking away our rights.

[RogerDodger 797]

Man when Hawkeye is destroying you, you know you have it bad.  

[GutterBoy 2,898]

3 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

My point is, and I think Gutter is getting to this as well, is that overall I am a bit tired of everything being about "bringing awareness" to things, and often times it's paired with money going to wasteful causes where a ton of money goes back to CEOs, advertising, etc.      Mostly what happens is we are happy wearing the ribbon and watching the movie, but not much actually gets DONE.  

To me all this is more of the same.     Do any of these screenings come with discussions, suggestions for how to donate to a charity like you suggested - anything?   If I were your buddy or somebody who things the movie is that important and the cause is that great, I would wait until the movie is streaming or on disc, and host watching parties of the movie with jars out and/or literature about quality ways to help and get money to causes that use it well.    I know you understand that part of the concern is where all this money is going.  

And I don't even have much of a problem with awareness, awareness is fine, but IMO not preferred over actual action.   

Take Susan Komen Breast Cancer, their biggest thing for years was raising awareness, as opposed to research or aid to patients.  Awareness in this case actually helps, as it can and does support early detection and survival rates.

Awareness of child trafficking, it's good, essentially nothing wrong with being aware, but does it actually help save kids, not really, unless people that become aware and get involved.  But all in all I support awareness.  When I didn't know anything about this movie, I applauded it for raising awareness.  In today's culture where "All liberals are pedos", it's good to see the topic actually addressed from a factual standpoint.

It was only when I learned about the people behind it that I changed my opinion.  The facts are lacking, and the people behind the movie support the culture of "all liberals are pedos", and the movie was essentially hijacked to promote this.  "Oh you don't want to see the movie?  What are you trying to hide?  You must be a pedo."  So it was more of the same bullsh1t.

And then we saw the conspiracy theories, "The theater mysteriously broke", and all the BS.  I'm just tired of all this focking fake sh1t that has infiltrated society and brainwashed people.

[Hawkeye21 2,390]

9 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

but that’s what this is, not “making people aware of child trafficking”

That's your opinion.  I don't completely agree with it.

[Baker Boy 1,694]

59 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Because the guy who wrote the film rails against the woke left and the lead actor subscribes to qanon.  You really didn't know this?

Also if he really cares about children, how about donating to that charity you linked instead of lining the pockets of grifters promoting a fact movie?

1. It’s not happening

 

Kill the messenger 

 

let’s deflect from the subject matter because, you know,  it’s a right wing conspiracy

 

[Baker Boy 1,694]

56 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Can't people support it for raising more awareness about child trafficking?

Yes

24 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Sure, but 99% of them are watching this movie and doing nothing else to actually fight child trafficking.  If your friend really wanted to help he would donate what he spent on the tickets to the actual charities.  Seems like he is marketing for his business more than anything.

Why didn’t you have a problem with all of Michael Moore’s films.

that shows exactly how hypocritical the left is.

[BuckSwope 654]

10 minutes ago, Strike said:

What the hell do you expect moviegoers to do about child trafficking?  If the movie raises awareness about the issue that's a good thing.  But child trafficking is one of those things the government should actually be doing something about.  This is the problem a lot of us "small government" people have with the current state of things.  There are certain things the government should NOT be involved in, and certain things that they are the only ones who can really do anything.  We want them involved in things that only they can take care of, but NOT getting involved in petty things they have no right to.  Unfortunately, the current state of our government reverses those two things, which ends up focking us and taking away our rights.

This is what I am talking about a bit above though.    You aren't powerless - write representatives, donate time and money to an effective organization, etc.      Most of what this becomes is performative signalling - look, I went to the movie too! look, I bought the ribbon too!  

There are great and effective ways to use this movie and get people 'aware' and also organize them to do something. 

[BuckSwope 654]

2 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

Yes

Why didn’t you have a problem with all of Michael Moore’s films.

that shows exactly how hypocritical the left is.

Do you have problems with Michael Moore's films? 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,216]

16 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

And I don't even have much of a problem with awareness, awareness is fine, but IMO not preferred over actual action.   

Take Susan Komen Breast Cancer, their biggest thing for years was raising awareness, as opposed to research or aid to patients.  Awareness in this case actually helps, as it can and does support early detection and survival rates.

Awareness of child trafficking, it's good, essentially nothing wrong with being aware, but does it actually help save kids, not really, unless people that become aware and get involved.  But all in all I support awareness.  When I didn't know anything about this movie, I applauded it for raising awareness.  In today's culture where "All liberals are pedos", it's good to see the topic actually addressed from a factual standpoint.

It was only when I learned about the people behind it that I changed my opinion.  The facts are lacking, and the people behind the movie support the culture of "all liberals are pedos", and the movie was essentially hijacked to promote this.  "Oh you don't want to see the movie?  What are you trying to hide?  You must be a pedo."  So it was more of the same bullsh1t.

And then we saw the conspiracy theories, "The theater mysteriously broke", and all the BS.  I'm just tired of all this focking fake sh1t that has infiltrated society and brainwashed people.

Moron

[Strike 5,376]

5 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

This is what I am talking about a bit above though.    You aren't powerless - write representatives, donate time and money to an effective organization, etc.      Most of what this becomes is performative signalling - look, I went to the movie too! look, I bought the ribbon too!  

There are great and effective ways to use this movie and get people 'aware' and also organize them to do something. 

Eh.  I believe certain causes are too big/complex/political for private charities to have a significant effect.  That's when the government has a role.  I donate to charities I think will make a difference - I want a good ROI and not just to throw money at something and think that's making a difference.  That's what our government does a lot of.  It's wasteful and ineffective.  But the more people aware of this and making a big deal of it will impact the government's stance on the issue.  That's where the value is for a movie like this.  And, for the record. I haven't seen this movie and don't intend to pay money at a theater to do so.  But I'm fine with other people going to see it.  Just weird that some of you have a hard on about people going to see it because you think it's "MAGA" or something.  I really don't understand the objection. 

[Baker Boy 1,694]

20 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

And I don't even have much of a problem with awareness, awareness is fine, but IMO not preferred over actual action.   

Take Susan Komen Breast Cancer, their biggest thing for years was raising awareness, as opposed to research or aid to patients.  Awareness in this case actually helps, as it can and does support early detection and survival rates.

Awareness of child trafficking, it's good, essentially nothing wrong with being aware, but does it actually help save kids, not really, unless people that become aware and get involved.  But all in all I support awareness.  When I didn't know anything about this movie, I applauded it for raising awareness.  In today's culture where "All liberals are pedos", it's good to see the topic actually addressed from a factual standpoint.

It was only when I learned about the people behind it that I changed my opinion.  The facts are lacking, and the people behind the movie support the culture of "all liberals are pedos", and the movie was essentially hijacked to promote this.  "Oh you don't want to see the movie?  What are you trying to hide?  You must be a pedo."  So it was more of the same bullsh1t.

And then we saw the conspiracy theories, "The theater mysteriously broke", and all the BS.  I'm just tired of all this focking fake sh1t that has infiltrated society and brainwashed people.

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