Pre-Season Action - Week 1

[Mike FF Today 721]

Finally getting some action on the field! Let's hope everyone stays out of the trainers room.

All times CT.

Thursday -

Houston @ New England    6:00 PM
Minnesota @ Seattle    9:00 PM

Friday - 

Green Bay @ Cincinnati    6:00 PM
New York Giants @ Detroit    6:00 PM
Atlanta @ Miami    6:00 PM
Pittsburgh @ Tampa Bay    6:00 PM
Washington @ Cleveland    6:30 PM
Denver @ Arizona    9:00 PM

Saturday - 

Indianapolis @ Buffalo    12:00 PM
Tennessee @ Chicago    12:00 PM
New York Jets @ Carolina    3:00 PM
Jacksonville @ Dallas    4:00 PM
Philadelphia @ Baltimore    6:00 PM
Los Angeles Chargers @ Los Angeles Rams    8:00 PM

Sunday - 

Kansas City @ New Orleans    12:00 PM
San Francisco @ Las Vegas    3:00 PM

[Mike FF Today 721]

I guess that means we'll see some James Cook...

 

[Mike FF Today 721]

Anthony Richardson will start at QB for the Colts.

[weepaws 3,153]

That’s the smart move by the Colts.  

[GobbleDog 982]

38 minutes ago, Mike FF Today said:

Anthony Richardson will start at QB for the Colts.

As a Gator fan I was stunned Richardson left early for the NFL, considering so few college starts, terrible win/loss record, uninspiring passing stats. Then to see him go 4th overall... dumbfounded. Clearly, I'm no NFL general manager. His running game alone is enough to justify that!?!

I'm conflicted - always root for former Gators, but part of me hopes it ends in disaster so I can say "told ya so" and see Colts owner Jim Irsay fail miserably.

[Mike FF Today 721]

 

[Ray_T 740]

7 hours ago, Mike FF Today said:

Anthony Richardson will start at QB for the Colts.

as he should.

I suspect hes not the week 1 starter, but you want him to have as much playing time as you can get him.

huge talent, but requires a lot of development.   likely more than you can give him in a 3 game pre season.

4 hours ago, GobbleDog said:

As a Gator fan I was stunned Richardson left early for the NFL, considering so few college starts, terrible win/loss record, uninspiring passing stats. Then to see him go 4th overall... dumbfounded. Clearly, I'm no NFL general manager. His running game alone is enough to justify that!?!

I'm conflicted - always root for former Gators, but part of me hopes it ends in disaster so I can say "told ya so" and see Colts owner Jim Irsay fail miserably.

I agree, he could have used another year in college to refine his skillset.   but this is a business, and Im certain his agent told him he would be a first rounder if he declares.   that makes him an instant millionaire.    how many people walk from that?   seriously?   if he plays another year of college and has a career ending injury all that money goes away.   like magic.

I am pretty sure he shouldn't start a game until the second half of the season at the earliest, but it sounds like there will be pressure to start him sooner.   

it will be interesting to see how this goes. 

[Mike FF Today 721]

Not great for C.J. Stroud tonight as the Texans are having trouble blocking.

Stroud: 2-4, 13 yds, 1 INT; 2 carries, 6 yds

Davis Mills comes in late in the first quarter.

[Ray_T 740]

Just now, Mike FF Today said:

Not great for C.J. Stroud tonight as the Texans are having trouble blocking.

Stroud: 2-4, 13 yds, 1 INT; 2 carries, 6 yds

Davis Mills comes in late in the first quarter.

I thought they were supposed to have a reasonably decent line?   am I out to lunch here?

[GobbleDog 982]

2 minutes ago, Ray_T said:

makes him an instant millionaire.    how many people walk from that?  

I don't begrudge him leaving early at all. Just surprised he was considered "NFL worthy" and shocked he went 4th overall.

The past decade has seen a big shift in the NFL to running Qbs, given the extra problems they give defenses. But... they still have to throw. I guess the Colts think they can fix whatever Richardson's throwing issues were at Florida.

[Ray_T 740]

1 hour ago, GobbleDog said:

I don't begrudge him leaving early at all. Just surprised he was considered "NFL worthy" and shocked he went 4th overall.

I was just as surprised as you were.   it actually prompted me to look at some tape.

I cannot deny he has made some spectacular throws showing incredible touch (meaning he passes the eye test sometimes).    but I've also seen some mistakes.

I really think it would have been better for his long term development to have another year to show he can step up his play and learn from his mistakes in a lower pressure environment.

obviously the Colts think they can fix his issues with coaching.    considering how young he is (because he declared early) the colts probably should allow him a year to red shirt and learn with pro coaching in a lower pressure environment, but I suspect that wont be the way they do this unless he shows he is clearly not ready.  I think ownership wants him to play ASAP.  I dont know that this is realistic. (personal opinion) but I'll have a better idea once I see him play some more against NFL competition.

what we see in week 1 is largely backups playing so its a bit harder to evaluate.  Teams wont show too much in the pre season either.  I suspect most of what we want to see will be seen behind closed doors in a practice against starters.

makes it a little tougher to evaluate rookies other than looking at individual moments. 

anyhow, based on what I saw on tape, I can see why the scouts were excited.   I thought because of the development time, a late first round selection (or possibly second round pick) was likely more appropriate. But as we all know when it comes to QB if you like what you see, you gotta jump at it.  I think he has a higher ceiling than a lot of QB but also a lower floor.  hes also got to be developed.   and that requires patience and good coaching as well as some time.

 

[Mike FF Today 721]

Most of Seattle's starters are going to sit tonight. We should see some of rookie RB Zach Charbonnet though.

[IGotWorms 4,057]

How about that Tank Dell?

But can anybody get him the ball?

[IGotWorms 4,057]

How did Addison look for Minny? Stat line wasn’t great (1 catch on 3 targets) but did he look the part?

[Ray_T 740]

2 hours ago, IGotWorms said:

How about that Tank Dell?

But can anybody get him the ball?

I liked the TD.  nice recovery even though he flubbed it up initially

[weepaws 3,153]

1 hour ago, IGotWorms said:

How did Addison look for Minny? Stat line wasn’t great (1 catch on 3 targets) but did he look the part?

You know I don’t watch the games, but I think based on his stats, he looked like a rookie with 1 rec on 3 targets.  

I hope that was helpful.  

Thanks. 

[IGotWorms 4,057]

5 hours ago, weepaws said:

You know I don’t watch the games, but I think based on his stats, he looked like a rookie with 1 rec on 3 targets.  

I hope that was helpful.  

Thanks. 

That was not helpful but it did meet my expectations for a weepers post

[weepaws 3,153]

1 hour ago, IGotWorms said:

That was not helpful but it did meet my expectations for a weepers post

Only one that answered you. 

[jrokh 608]

9 hours ago, IGotWorms said:

How did Addison look for Minny? Stat line wasn’t great (1 catch on 3 targets) but did he look the part?

 

 

 

[Mike FF Today 721]

 

[weepaws 3,153]

J Love is going to be a very good streamer for me this season, and Watson will benefit.  

[Mike FF Today 721]

 

[League Champion 1,896]

7 minutes ago, Mike FF Today said:

 

Ohhh boy. 

[plasma george 62]

19 hours ago, weepaws said:

You know I don’t watch the games, but I think based on his stats, he looked like a rookie with 1 rec on 3 targets.  

I hope that was helpful.  

Thanks. 

You should say you don’t watch the games when you’re posting opinions  

You missing that sweet catch is a perfect example of what you don’t know, when you  don’t watch the games, and probably never played football 

[Mike FF Today 721]

 

[Gepetto 1,288]

Broncos pass blocking is not good against Cardinals defense.

[IGotWorms 4,057]

3 hours ago, Mike FF Today said:

 

That’s focking interesting, man

[makindollaz 51]

Howell looked pretty good for the Commanders tonight.  Moved around pretty well in the pocket, and found Dotson for a nice TD.

[Ray_T 740]

10 hours ago, makindollaz said:

Howell looked pretty good for the Commanders tonight.  Moved around pretty well in the pocket, and found Dotson for a nice TD.

he always moves well, but how was his throwing of the ball.  on target?   good reads?

[makindollaz 51]

22 minutes ago, Ray_T said:

he always moves well, but how was his throwing of the ball.  on target?   good reads?

9/12, no dumb throws.  The TD to Dotson wasn’t a dart (good catch by Dotson) but he got him the ball in a position to make the play.

[Ray_T 740]

26 minutes ago, makindollaz said:

9/12, no dumb throws.  The TD to Dotson wasn’t a dart (good catch by Dotson) but he got him the ball in a position to make the play.

good to know.  thanks

[Mike FF Today 721]

A lot of work for rookie RB Tyjae Spears on the Titans first drive. 6 carries, 32 yards.

[Mike FF Today 721]

Anthony Richardson with a bad throw and picked off in his first drive. 

[IGotWorms 4,057]

DJ Moore with a 60+ yard receiving TD. Anyone moving him up?

[weepaws 3,153]

Moore’s ADP is 5th rd .5 ppr, I have him listed in the 6th, low wr2, high wr3:  not moving him lower. 

[weepaws 3,153]

7 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

DJ Moore with a 60+ yard receiving TD. Anyone moving him up?

Don’t you mean down, if you move him up his adp would rise higher, so I think you mean lower.  

Thanks. 

[IGotWorms 4,057]

4 minutes ago, weepaws said:

Don’t you mean down, if you move him up his adp would rise higher, so I think you mean lower.  

Thanks. 

No I mean move him up. I have him about where you do but I’m wondering if it might be a tad low

[weepaws 3,153]

I’m not moving him, and like him in the 6Th rd, like him more as a high wr3, then I do as a  low Wr2.  IMO. 

[makindollaz 51]

Wish Chicago had a better RB situation, but I wouldn’t be shocked if Fields/Moore is 2023’s Hurts/AJB from last year.  

[League Champion 1,896]

2 hours ago, weepaws said:

Moore’s ADP is 5th rd .5 ppr, I have him listed in the 6th, low wr2, high wr3:  not moving him lower. 

I think Elijah Moore will be a high end WR2 with borderline WR1 upside. The volume will be there and sprinkle in some carries here & there