TBayXXXVII 2,521 Posted August 14, 2023 1 minute ago, Hawkeye21 said: That's something I agree with republicans on. Same with the 2nd Amendment. Ok. Just looked like by your post that you thought George Carlin was right in his condemning of Republican's for that point of view. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,393 Posted August 14, 2023 1 minute ago, TBayXXXVII said: Ok. Just looked like by your post that you thought George Carlin was right in his condemning of Republican's for that point of view. I agree that conservatives come off that way. I get why the stereotype exists. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,119 Posted August 14, 2023 15 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: Seriously... you think that $1B going to the school is going to stay there? That other $55B is going to where ever it's going and they're going to find out they need more. When that happens, they'll start taking money from that $1B and eventually wrap it all into one pot. When that happens, that extra 4% is going to quietly go away, and you'll never hear about it. Yes I would think it will. If it doesn’t then that would be a problem. In the meantime that is how this state got this into their budget. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,119 Posted August 14, 2023 14 minutes ago, League Champion said: It's a mess What’s a mess? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,708 Posted August 14, 2023 29 minutes ago, thegeneral said: This has the info for MA This passing has zero to do with the “millionaires tax” but it’s a great piece of propaganda . Lunches have been free since 2020 thanks to the pandemic and finally the fed funds ended. The state also had a surplus, the money was there . The cost isn’t high , just under 1% of the budget. The new tax frees up this so the can play a shell game with the money . The MA politician is a special breed of carny Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,119 Posted August 14, 2023 11 minutes ago, HellToupee said: This passing has zero to do with the “millionaires tax” but it’s a great piece of propaganda . Lunches have been free since 2020 thanks to the pandemic and finally the fed funds ended. The state also had a surplus, the money was there . The cost isn’t high , just under 1% of the budget. The new tax frees up this so the can play a shell game with the money . The MA politician is a special breed of carny Yeah the Covid money was cutoff so need to get it somewhere which will always be a challenge and always be contentious. Your state went the route of charging millionaires. There’s different ways to go! The article is vague on where the 523 million that they earmarked from the 1 billion this tax generated will actually be for the lunches. The rest is going to “transportation”. I’m sure they’ll spend it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,909 Posted August 14, 2023 54 minutes ago, thegeneral said: What’s a mess? Sorry, that was for Tbay Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,919 Posted August 14, 2023 4 hours ago, MDC said: You always seem miserable. Better than actually always being miserable like you and your life. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,393 Posted August 14, 2023 3 hours ago, Hawkeye21 said: It's definitely not representative of all conservatives but they have earned that stereotype. Responsibility is what the right wants. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,708 Posted August 14, 2023 2 hours ago, thegeneral said: Yeah the Covid money was cutoff so need to get it somewhere which will always be a challenge and always be contentious. Your state went the route of charging millionaires. There’s different ways to go! The article is vague on where the 523 million that they earmarked from the 1 billion this tax generated will actually be for the lunches. The rest is going to “transportation”. I’m sure they’ll spend it The program is so cheap in the grand scheme if it’s run on the up & up it’s a no brainer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,521 Posted August 14, 2023 4 hours ago, thegeneral said: Yes I would think it will. If it doesn’t then that would be a problem. In the meantime that is how this state got this into their budget. It was created by politicians, if course it's going to go that way. LOL. Probably in less than 12 months. Wait, correction, it'll go that way after the 2024 election. Funny how this is presented as helping the poor, when all it did was help help the well off. You libs will believe anything. LOL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,919 Posted August 14, 2023 4 hours ago, thegeneral said: Yeah the Covid money was cutoff so need to get it somewhere which will always be a challenge and always be contentious. Your state went the route of charging millionaires. There’s different ways to go! The article is vague on where the 523 million that they earmarked from the 1 billion this tax generated will actually be for the lunches. The rest is going to “transportation”. I’m sure they’ll spend it Liberals are the party of big government. Shut up and do as you're told and don't worry what they do with your money. Just keep giving it and keep voting for the old pedophile creepy joe. And you will. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,521 Posted August 14, 2023 4 hours ago, League Champion said: Sorry, that was for Tbay Well, it's liberal b.s. disguised to help the poor when it's going to help out the more well off people. Look, for a change, they're actually helping the middle class. But we all know what's going to happen. After the 2024 election, there'll be a black politician and say this policy helps white people disproportionately more than blacks or other minorities, and they'll change the plan at some point for the next election cycle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,119 Posted August 14, 2023 2 hours ago, TBayXXXVII said: Well, it's liberal b.s. disguised to help the poor when it's going to help out the more well off people. Look, for a change, they're actually helping the middle class. But we all know what's going to happen. After the 2024 election, there'll be a black politician and say this policy helps white people disproportionately more than blacks or other minorities, and they'll change the plan at some point for the next election cycle. The well off people (well those this tax is hitting) may disagree with your assessment They just got a new tax that generates a billion to save 800 bucks in free lunches for their kid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,119 Posted August 14, 2023 2 hours ago, seafoam1 said: Liberals are the party of big government. Shut up and do as you're told and don't worry what they do with your money. Just keep giving it and keep voting for the old pedophile creepy joe. And you will. Those liberals trying to make sure some kid eats a lunch. The horror! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,909 Posted August 14, 2023 I'm confused as to how anyone could be against free lunches for students. Just look at the BS that our Government wastes money on. We're paying billions to house and feed ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. Let's take care of our own for a change. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,256 Posted August 14, 2023 5 minutes ago, thegeneral said: Those liberals trying to make sure some kid eats a lunch. The horror! They haven’t been eating lunch? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,919 Posted August 14, 2023 6 minutes ago, thegeneral said: Those liberals trying to make sure some kid eats a lunch. The horror! What kid? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,119 Posted August 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, League Champion said: I'm confused as to how anyone could be against free lunches for students. Just look at the BS that our Government wastes money on. We're paying billions to house and feed ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. Let's take care of our own for a change. If I got the gist it was either government would do it badly / inefficiently, it’s a scam to get more tax revenue out of people, or tough shet your kid can’t eat because you are poor that’s life pal. All pretty bad arguments IMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,119 Posted August 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, seafoam1 said: What kid? The kid who wasn’t going to get lunch at school when the Covid dollars dried up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,909 Posted August 15, 2023 6 minutes ago, thegeneral said: your kid can’t eat because you are poor that’s life pal Yeah, that's F'd up. It's not he kids fault and they shouldn't have to sit and watch the other kids eat while they're starving because they can't afford lunch everyday. Our Federal Government sure finds a way to get Zelensky his money. I'm sure they can figure out how to disperse lunch funds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,256 Posted August 15, 2023 7 minutes ago, thegeneral said: The kid who wasn’t going to get lunch at school when the Covid dollars dried up. How did they get lunch before Covid? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,256 Posted August 15, 2023 Just now, League Champion said: Yeah, that's F'd up. It's not he kids fault and they shouldn't have to sit and watch the other kids eat while they're starving because they can't afford lunch everyday. Our Federal Government sure finds a way to get Zelensky his money. I'm sure they can figure out how to disperse lunch funds. The first part of your statement is retarded. Nice job. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,057 Posted August 15, 2023 19 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said: If you can’t feed your children you shouldn’t have any. Well that’s pretty simplistic, so I guess it has that benefit. You can certainly slap it on a bumper sticker right next to your “Let’s Go Brandon “ decal. But what about people that go ahead and have em anyway? Not the kids’ fault, obviously. Or you had em and then misfortune befell you. Oh well I guess those kids can starve Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,256 Posted August 15, 2023 10 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: Well that’s pretty simplistic, so I guess it has that benefit. You can certainly slap it on a bumper sticker right next to your “Let’s Go Brandon “ decal. But what about people that go ahead and have em anyway? Not the kids’ fault, obviously. Or you had em and then misfortune befell you. Oh well I guess those kids can starve I never said anything like that. Don’t be a punk. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,119 Posted August 15, 2023 20 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: How did they get lunch before Covid? Not too sure. Every state has their own ways of dealing with this I’d imagine. Some type of funding is required from somewhere and that’s what this MA tax looks to be doing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,057 Posted August 15, 2023 Just now, Hardcore troubadour said: I never said anything like that. Don’t be a punk. Yeah you did. I quoted it right there in my post Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cloaca du jour 2,148 Posted August 15, 2023 The free lunches are crap. Day old pizza...nuggets...hotdogs...cheese sticks. Everything pre packaged. Nothing fresh. Thanks michelle Obama. Ketchup is a vegetable. Food is all carbs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,119 Posted August 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, Cloaca du jour said: The free lunches are crap. Day old pizza...nuggets...hotdogs...cheese sticks. Everything pre packaged. Nothing fresh. Thanks michelle Obama. Ketchup is a vegetable. Food is all carbs. Another issue. Getting kids to eat good food. Might need to raise the taxes higher! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,919 Posted August 15, 2023 39 minutes ago, thegeneral said: The kid who wasn’t going to get lunch at school when the Covid dollars dried up. Who? Just some random kid should get billions of dollars for a grilled cheese and green beans that he won't eat? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shorepatrol 1,870 Posted August 15, 2023 The problem with this is it'd turn into massive overspending like every other liberal program. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,256 Posted August 15, 2023 10 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: Yeah you did. I quoted it right there in my post What I said is true, you agree with it, and that doesn’t mean I think or said kids should go hungry. That’s just you masturbating again. I’m sure it feels good, but it’s not real. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,919 Posted August 15, 2023 11 minutes ago, Cloaca du jour said: The free lunches are crap. Day old pizza...nuggets...hotdogs...cheese sticks. Everything pre packaged. Nothing fresh. Thanks michelle Obama. Ketchup is a vegetable. Food is all carbs. Ketchup is a vegetable. Ketchup And this is the low sodium version. Sources include: USDA Amount Per 1 packet (9 g)1 tbsp (17 g)100 grams1 cup (240 g)1 tbsp (17 g) Calories 19 % Daily Value* Total Fat 0 g 0% Saturated fat 0 g 0% Cholesterol 0 mg 0% Sodium 154 mg 6% Potassium 54 mg 1% Total Carbohydrate 4.5 g 1% Dietary fiber 0.1 g 0% Sugar 3.7 g Protein 0.2 g 0% Vitamin C 1% Calcium 0% Iron 0% Vitamin D 0% Vitamin B6 0% Cobalamin 0% Magnesium 0% Sounds so healthy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cloaca du jour 2,148 Posted August 15, 2023 My district has free breakfast and lunch. Not good. Cereal bars Toast Powdered eggs pop tarts Etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,057 Posted August 15, 2023 4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: What I said is true, you agree with it, and that doesn’t mean I think or said kids should go hungry. That’s just you masturbating again. I’m sure it feels good, but it’s not real. So it was just some entirely irrelevant statement? Well okay then, my mistake Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,919 Posted August 15, 2023 The real question is why can't these parents afford to give their kids an apple and a peanut butter sandwich for lunch, bare minimum? If they can't afford that, we need to start throwing negligent parents in prison. Maybe that will teach people to not have kids if they can't afford them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,119 Posted August 15, 2023 6 minutes ago, seafoam1 said: Who? Just some random kid should get billions of dollars for a grilled cheese and green beans that he won't eat? Yeah every kid who needs to eat lunch should have that for free at school. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,919 Posted August 15, 2023 Just now, thegeneral said: Yeah every kid who needs to eat lunch should have that for free at school. Why? Why can't parents feed their kids? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,119 Posted August 15, 2023 6 minutes ago, seafoam1 said: Why? Why can't parents feed their kids? A variety of reasons. Some suck, some are losers, some run into bad times. Let’s just make sure some kid who got unlucky is fed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,393 Posted August 15, 2023 5 minutes ago, seafoam1 said: Why? Why can't parents feed their kids? Smokes, bingo, weed, quit school themselves., I could go on forever. Of all those who can’t feed their children, maybe 5% was not a result of their own fuckups. Like really lost a job or became really disabled….that’s the grind. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites