Don’t defund police, pay them more!

[Bier Meister 1,658]

2 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

This is why I always say Libs have no foresight.   They just react to emotions.  Hmmmm you don't like the way cops do work? So the solution is to TAKE training pay and resources away.....to get what result exactly?  Worse cops? 

If logic got up and smacked libs in the face they still wouldn't get it.  

I don't believe that it was ever a global philosophy by the left.

[listen2me 23 1,831]

Just now, Bier Meister said:

I don't believe that it was ever a global philosophy by the left.

A global philosophy? No.  But a good portion were yelling it in 2020.  Some realized how dumb it was and piped down.  Some didn't.   

Definitely a leftist ideology.  Thats for sure.  

 

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11 minutes ago, BufordT said:

Not a hater. They're just like every occupation out there.  There's mostly good ones, some bad ones and believe it or not some crooked ones.  But one thing I know, they like that OT.

I would too if it didnt mean dealing with beligerant azzholes all day.  The one that tik tok tells em how to behave when pulled over.  Yeah...fick that...gimme the traffic OT

[Bier Meister 1,658]

Just now, listen2me 23 said:

A global philosophy? No.  But a good portion were yelling it in 2020.  Some realized how dumb it was and piped down.  Some didn't.   

Definitely a leftist ideology.  Thats for sure.  

 

I completely disagree that a good portion was yelling it. It was a loud small faction.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,246]

14 minutes ago, Bier Meister said:

I completely disagree that a good portion was yelling it. It was a loud small faction.

it was the vice president, couldn't get any louder than that

 

[Bier Meister 1,658]

2 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

it was the vice president, couldn't get any louder than that

 

I do not believe it was a consensus. 

[The Real timschochet 6,489]

11 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

it was the vice president, couldn't get any louder than that

 

Nope. That’s not true. 
 

https://www.statesman.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/10/09/fact-check-does-kamala-harris-support-police-defunding/42738997/#

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,246]

9 minutes ago, Bier Meister said:

I do not believe it was a consensus. 

is anything though?

 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,246]

2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Nope. That’s not true. 
 

https://www.statesman.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/10/09/fact-check-does-kamala-harris-support-police-defunding/42738997/#

bro she supported Garcetti cutting 150 mil from the police dept in LA

she can spin however she wants but thats facts

Vice presidential hopeful Sen. Kamala Harris on Tuesday applauded Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti’s decision to slash police funding by $150 million but stopped short of saying she backed the “defund the police” movement.

“I support investing in communities so that they become more healthy and therefore more safe,” Harris said in an interview on ABC’s “Good Morning America.” “I applaud Mayor Garcetti for doing what he’s done.”

 

however you want to spin it fine, but she supported LA And its MAJOR FAILURE SF AND ITS MAJOR FAILURE

[Hardcore troubadour 14,971]

I would gladly swap innocent victims of crime and have the real Tims of the world take their place. Family too. 

[The Real timschochet 6,489]

1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I would gladly swap innocent victims of crime and have the real Tims of the world take their place. Family too. 

Second or third time you’ve posted this. And this time in a thread in which I’ve stated that defunding police is stupid and they should be paid more. 
 

And not only are you wishing ill will just on me, but on my family too? I’m truly hoping you’re not this much of a jerk in real life. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,971]

30 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Second or third time you’ve posted this. And this time in a thread in which I’ve stated that defunding police is stupid and they should be paid more. 
 

And not only are you wishing ill will just on me, but on my family too? I’m truly hoping you’re not this much of a jerk in real life. 

I stand by what I said. I wouldn’t consider you an innocent victim, so why not? Why shouldn’t you suffer the fate of your actions? Seems fair to me.  

[Fnord 2,062]

38 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I’m truly hoping you’re not this much of a jerk in real life. 

Spoiler alert!!!

 

 

 

HE IS.

[The Real timschochet 6,489]

7 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Spoiler alert!!!

 

 

 

HE IS.

I guess so. Damn. Well that’s the last time I respond to that guy. 

[Fnord 2,062]

2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I guess so. Damn. Well that’s the last time I respond to that guy. 

The board would be much happier if you stopped responding to suckfoam. HT is just a part time troll who is amused by being a d1ck. It's even possible to have a real interaction with him, although rare. Suckfoam is a legit deranged little mutant that spews hate and has nothing original or interesting to say.

[League Champion 1,896]

 

[League Champion 1,896]

On 8/16/2023 at 11:55 AM, Fnord said:

defunding the police

 

[League Champion 1,896]

 

[RLLD 4,145]

35 minutes ago, League Champion said:

 

This is liberal "kindness".  Allow them to self destruct......

[Wade Garrett 155]

1 minute ago, RLLD said:

This is liberal "kindness".  Allow them to self destruct......

You seem to have all the answers for drug crimes and drug use.

What would you do boyo?

[League Champion 1,896]

Just now, Wade Garrett said:

What would you do boyo?

Don't vote Democrat! 

[RLLD 4,145]

Just now, Wade Garrett said:

You seem to have all the answers for drug crimes and drug use.

What would you do boyo?

It would seem, based on the available data, that we either provide them the means to feed thier habit as is beind pursued, or we treat them.  Now the impetus behind the movement to provide them access to needles etc has the intent to try to save their lives, in theory. In practice this is not working. So we have to go back to accountability but instead of purely punitive, it would need to be with treatment.

Right now treatment is rather costly. But then again, so too is the cost to send out emergency staff to grab them up and then treat them at hospitals. These elements coupled with incarceration costs and ongoing medical-related factors and then the cost to local business etc....should all be measured.

The "cost" to treat should later be shown against reductions in other areas to help explain how the money spent is adding value. So in this instance setting aside funding, from Federal, State and local governments......should result in the establishment of treatment centers. Start by repurposing available and abandoned commerical spaces.  Then establish a punitive and reward-based setup.  

Time to try something new. 

[Wade Garrett 155]

3 minutes ago, League Champion said:

Don't vote Democrat! 

So cities run by conservatives don't have drug crime, homeless, and violent crime?

You sure about that boyo?

Facts are never the friend of cultist.  In fact facts are like sunlight is to vampires to you racist imbeciles. 

[Wade Garrett 155]

Just now, RLLD said:

It would seem, based on the available data, that we either provide them the means to feed thier habit as is beind pursued, or we treat them.  Now the impetus behind the movement to provide them access to needles etc has the intent to try to save their lives, in theory. In practice this is not working. So we have to go back to accountability but instead of purely punitive, it would need to be with treatment.

Right now treatment is rather costly. But then again, so too is the cost to send out emergency staff to grab them up and then treat them at hospitals. These elements coupled with incarceration costs and ongoing medical-related factors and then the cost to local business etc....should all be measured.

The "cost" to treat should later be shown against reductions in other areas to help explain how the money spent is adding value. So in this instance setting aside funding, from Federal, State and local governments......should result in the establishment of treatment centers. Start by repurposing available and abandoned commerical spaces.  Then establish a punitive and reward-based setup.  

Time to try something new. 

Yet you blame liberals only.  Do you believe that conservative run cities don't face similar issues?

And I think your ideas are decent.

[Engorgeous George 2,163]

7 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said:

You seem to have all the answers for drug crimes and drug use.

What would you do boyo?

Purge!

[RLLD 4,145]

1 minute ago, Wade Garrett said:

Yet you blame liberals only.  Do you believe that conservative run cities don't face similar issues?

And I think your ideas are decent.

While there is data to support your suggestion that the problem is more prevalent in liberal-dominated localities, I think that is only part of a multi-variable analysis.  Sure, liberal policies are inclined to failure, they are too reliant on the farcical notion that people are "good" and will choose based on the benefit to the many over the individual.  Since this almost never happens, their policies fail rather consistently. 

THAT being said, I think this issue would be just as evident in more conservative locales....because you cannot arrest and prosecute a solution to this.....that approach is also proven to be ineffective. 

[League Champion 1,896]

5 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said:

You sure about that boyo?

FREE NEEDLES FOR ALL

[Wade Garrett 155]

12 minutes ago, RLLD said:

While there is data to support your suggestion that the problem is more prevalent in liberal-dominated localities, I think that is only part of a multi-variable analysis.  Sure, liberal policies are inclined to failure, they are too reliant on the farcical notion that people are "good" and will choose based on the benefit to the many over the individual.  Since this almost never happens, their policies fail rather consistently. 

THAT being said, I think this issue would be just as evident in more conservative locales....because you cannot arrest and prosecute a solution to this.....that approach is also proven to be ineffective. 

THE most conservative city in the country, Jackson Mississippi.

Weird.  You're right, conservatives make things worse...SMH

Analysis: For second straight year, Jackson’s homicide rate ranks highest in U.S. among major cities

The Capital City edged out Memphis, New Orleans and St. Louis for deadliest city when ranked per capita

 

[League Champion 1,896]

 

[RLLD 4,145]

1 minute ago, Wade Garrett said:

THE most conservative city in the country, Jackson Mississippi.

Weird.  You're right, conservatives make things worse...SMH

Analysis: For second straight year, Jackson’s homicide rate ranks highest in U.S. among major cities

The Capital City edged out Memphis, New Orleans and St. Louis for deadliest city when ranked per capita

 

If you are making some point, then perhaps you should say what it is you are trying to convey; your post appears to corroborate my assertion.

[Wade Garrett 155]

1 minute ago, RLLD said:

If you are making some point, then perhaps you should say what it is you are trying to convey; your post appears to corroborate my assertion.

You said the issue with cities was liberals.  Jackson is like 70%+ conservative and led by conservatives.

You're struggling today boyo quite bigly. 

[RLLD 4,145]

4 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said:

You said the issue with cities was liberals.  Jackson is like 70%+ conservative and led by conservatives.

You're struggling today boyo quite bigly. 

I did not.   It is, as I stated, happenstance more than anything else.  BOTH parties have examples of failed policies and approaches.  You need to slow down, read more carefully, and stop projecting.  

[Wade Garrett 155]

4 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I did not.   It is, as I stated, happenstance more than anything else.  BOTH parties have examples of failed policies and approaches.  You need to slow down, read more carefully, and stop projecting.  

 

40 minutes ago, RLLD said:

This is liberal "kindness".  Allow them to self destruct......

Uh boyo, you did.  Said it was liberal "kindness."  Please explain why the most conservative city is also the deadliest.

More "liberal kindness"? 

[RLLD 4,145]

1 minute ago, Wade Garrett said:

 

Uh boyo, you did.  Said it was liberal "kindness."  Please explain why the most conservative city is also the deadliest.

More "liberal kindness"? 

Correct. I posted that, and your active omission of my repudiation of the conservative position I also commented on could be considered an accident, if you were not so obviously biased.  Now, lying by omission is not going to work here.  How about you stop being so childish and be an honest participant?

[Wade Garrett 155]

1 minute ago, RLLD said:

Correct. I posted that, and your active omission of my repudiation of the conservative position I also commented on could be considered an accident, if you were not so obviously biased.  Now, lying by omission is not going to work here.  How about you stop being so childish and be an honest participant?

There was nothing in your posts about conservatives boyo.  I quoted the entire post.

You only brought up conservatives when I challenged your position.

Dang boyo, you are STRUGGLING today...SMH

[RLLD 4,145]

Just now, Wade Garrett said:

There was nothing in your posts about conservatives boyo.  I quoted the entire post.

You only brought up conservatives when I challenged your position.

Dang boyo, you are STRUGGLING today...SMH

Quote

THAT being said, I think this issue would be just as evident in more conservative locales....because you cannot arrest and prosecute a solution to this.....that approach is also proven to be ineffective. 

 

So you either did not read the post.......or actively ignored it.    I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt here, and I am going to postulate that your irrational immaturity led to you glossing over it.

So again, slow down....read better.... and be more honest with your discussions. 

[Wade Garrett 155]

1 minute ago, RLLD said:

 

So you either did not read the post.......or actively ignored it.    I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt here, and I am going to postulate that your irrational immaturity led to you glossing over it.

So again, slow down....read better.... and be more honest with your discussions. 

 

49 minutes ago, RLLD said:

This is liberal "kindness".  Allow them to self destruct......

 

47 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said:

You seem to have all the answers for drug crimes and drug use.

What would you do boyo?

 

42 minutes ago, RLLD said:

It would seem, based on the available data, that we either provide them the means to feed thier habit as is beind pursued, or we treat them.  Now the impetus behind the movement to provide them access to needles etc has the intent to try to save their lives, in theory. In practice this is not working. So we have to go back to accountability but instead of purely punitive, it would need to be with treatment.

Right now treatment is rather costly. But then again, so too is the cost to send out emergency staff to grab them up and then treat them at hospitals. These elements coupled with incarceration costs and ongoing medical-related factors and then the cost to local business etc....should all be measured.

The "cost" to treat should later be shown against reductions in other areas to help explain how the money spent is adding value. So in this instance setting aside funding, from Federal, State and local governments......should result in the establishment of treatment centers. Start by repurposing available and abandoned commerical spaces.  Then establish a punitive and reward-based setup.  

Time to try something new. 

As I said, I challenged you and then you said something about conservatives.  Not until I asked you for a solution.

Look, you're not an honest guy.  I've pointed out lie after lie after lie.

Done with you boyo. 

[RLLD 4,145]

3 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said:

 

 

 

As I said, I challenged you and then you said something about conservatives.  Not until I asked you for a solution.

Look, you're not an honest guy.  I've pointed out lie after lie after lie.

Done with you boyo. 

You lied by omission, and now that you are continuing to not be honest about this.....that is sort of a problem.  If you are not willing to be honest then there is little we have left to discuss.  If you change your mind I always enjoy discussion.  But I do not entertain the company of liars.....

[avoiding injuries 1,519]

35 minutes ago, RLLD said:

If you are making some point, then perhaps you should say what it is you are trying to convey; your post appears to corroborate my assertion.

“The 5 largest ethnic groups in Jackson, MS are Black or African American (Non-Hispanic) (82.2%), White (Non-Hispanic) (15.4%), White (Hispanic) (0.778%), Two+ (Non-Hispanic) (0.669%), and Asian (Non-Hispanic) (0.327%).”

https://datausa.io/profile/geo/jackson-ms/#:~:text=The 5 largest ethnic groups,-Hispanic) (0.327%).

 

Yikes

[RLLD 4,145]

5 minutes ago, avoiding injuries said:

“The 5 largest ethnic groups in Jackson, MS are Black or African American (Non-Hispanic) (82.2%), White (Non-Hispanic) (15.4%), White (Hispanic) (0.778%), Two+ (Non-Hispanic) (0.669%), and Asian (Non-Hispanic) (0.327%).”

https://datausa.io/profile/geo/jackson-ms/#:~:text=The 5 largest ethnic groups,-Hispanic) (0.327%).

 

Yikes

What am I supposed to take away from this?