Horseman 2,367 Posted September 8, 2023 57 minutes ago, Herbivore said: You cannot change the scoring after the draft. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,677 Posted September 8, 2023 Just now, Horseman said: Yes there is opposition. Fantasy Football 101 Rule #1 - Know your leagues rules. Rule #2 - No changing the rules after the draft. FFS. Thats the only reason I am going to leave it as it is but riddle me this... Knowing your league rules means you knew it was different than 2021. Why would that be the case? I would bet no one drafted with that scoring in mind, and hell... doesn't impact me. It hurts high volume passing QBs more than anyone else. 300 yard games are now 12 instead of 15 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,367 Posted September 8, 2023 18 minutes ago, WhiteWonder said: Thats the only reason I am going to leave it as it is but riddle me this... Knowing your league rules means you knew it was different than 2021. Why would that be the case? I would bet no one drafted with that scoring in mind, and hell... doesn't impact me. It hurts high volume passing QBs more than anyone else. 300 yard games are now 12 instead of 15 Because we changed platforms and changed a half a dozen other things just because. That's no riddle. You were even given commissioner powers to review and change if you saw something off before the draft. Whatever you were willing to bet send it to Ed right now because you owe me. My draft rankings are generated based on the league's scoring, so they are "in mind". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,677 Posted September 8, 2023 1 minute ago, Horseman said: Because we changed platforms and changed a half a dozen other things just because. That's no riddle. You were even given commissioner powers to review and change if you saw something off before the draft. Whatever you were willing to bet send it to Ed right now because you owe me. My draft rankings are generated based on the league's scoring, so they are "in mind". 1. I didn't change the platform and create the league. If I had, it would have been set up with the same exact scoring as 2021 to use as a starting point because that is the sensible thing to do. Changing a bunch of things "just because" doesn't make it correct 2. I was given commissioner power much later on. Clearly I am not going to catch every inconsistency at the last minute. 3. Anyone who chirps about "knowing your league rules" and generates their rankings based on the scoring is someone I would expect to be keenly aware that those settings didn't match last season regardless, I already agreed it's not being changed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,367 Posted September 8, 2023 19 minutes ago, WhiteWonder said: 1. I didn't change the platform and create the league. If I had, it would have been set up with the same exact scoring as 2021 to use as a starting point because that is the sensible thing to do. Changing a bunch of things "just because" doesn't make it correct 2. I was given commissioner power much later on. Clearly I am not going to catch every inconsistency at the last minute. 3. Anyone who chirps about "knowing your league rules" and generates their rankings based on the scoring is someone I would expect to be keenly aware that those settings didn't match last season regardless, I already agreed it's not being changed 1 - I'm so sorry. 2 - How long does it take? lol 3 - I was aware, Fantasy 101 Rule #1. I liked any rule that devalued QBs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,677 Posted September 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, Horseman said: 1 - I'm so sorry. 2 - How long does it take? lol Theoretically it should not take long but I think we both know when you're not the one who sets something up and you are basically proof reading someone else's work, there is a chance you will fail to catch something. 3 - I was aware, Fantasy 101 Rule #1. I liked any rule that devalued QBs. So you knew a scoring setting was changed even though never discussed and didn't mention it because you liked it. Class act, as usual Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,367 Posted September 8, 2023 3 minutes ago, WhiteWonder said: You were changing rules just hours before the draft and now crying about changing a rule after the draft and after games have been played. You can jump down off your high horse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,677 Posted September 8, 2023 10 minutes ago, Horseman said: You were changing rules just hours before the draft and now crying about changing a rule after the draft and after games have been played. You can jump down off your high horse. I know you're not that obtuse. Rule changes right before the draft were, once again, fixes of incorrect settings and done by myself and Bier. Like this incorrect setting, that I did not notice. I didn't enter it incorrectly but I take the blame for failing to find it. No high horse for me to jump down from but perhaps you could be less of a douche (I know it's not your style) about the suggestion it be fixed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,367 Posted September 8, 2023 1 hour ago, WhiteWonder said: Anyone who chirps about "knowing your league rules" 30 minutes ago, WhiteWonder said: Class act as usual. 9 minutes ago, WhiteWonder said: I know you're not that obtuse. Quote perhaps you could be less of a douche Take a long look in the mirror. I never once insulted you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,677 Posted September 8, 2023 3 minutes ago, Horseman said: 27 minutes ago, Horseman said: You were changing rules just hours before the draft and now crying about changing a rule after the draft and after games have been played. You can jump down off your high horse. Take a long look in the mirror. I never once insulted you. Never said you insulted me... but is "chirps about knowing league rules" some kind of insult versus the above quote? I was speaking directly to your response / attitude at the suggestion of fixing a stat scoring mistake. Mr "fantasy 101" is talking about high horses Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,367 Posted September 8, 2023 16 minutes ago, WhiteWonder said: Never said you insulted me... but is "chirps about knowing league rules" some kind of insult versus the above quote? I was speaking directly to your response / attitude at the suggestion of fixing a stat scoring mistake. Mr "fantasy 101" is talking about high horses Who is chirping? You're crying about a RULE CHANGE AFTER THE DRAFT. The asks for objections and then cries some more when he get one. My vote: FOK NO. No rule changes after the draft dummy, you ever played FF before? FFS Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,367 Posted September 8, 2023 Why is it its always the so called fantasy experts that don't have their chit together? Reminds me when I played in a league with the staff at FBGs: - Hey I didn't mean to draft DeAngelo Williams in the 7th round can I change that? 2 rounds later. - What the draft is over, there are only 15 roster spots? I want to add more. Guys that claim to do this for a living. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,677 Posted September 8, 2023 1 minute ago, Horseman said: You're crying about a RULE CANGE AFTER THE DRAFT. The asks for objections and then cries some more when he get one. My vote: FOK NO. No rule changes after the draft dummy, you ever played FF before? FFS this is all VERY insulting. Who the hell is crying? If you can't handle discussion on a subject, why continue to engage? Since multiple people objected, didn't I already say that it would NOT be changed? Just because I don't agree with the premise that an incorrect scoring setting can't be fixed doesn't mean you can just default to claims that I am crying about it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,367 Posted September 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, WhiteWonder said: this is all VERY insulting. why continue to engage? Calling someone a douche is an actual insult. Doesn't bother me, just pointing out your hypocrisy. Have a nice season guy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,677 Posted September 8, 2023 14 minutes ago, Horseman said: Why is it its always the so called fantasy experts that don't have their chit together? Reminds me when I played in a league with the staff at FBGs: - Hey I didn't mean to draft DeAngelo Williams in the 7th round can I change that? 2 rounds later. - What the draft is over, there are only 15 roster spots? I want to add more. Guys that claim to do this for a living! Okay, I take it back. Clearly, you are that obtuse. It's not at all about having one's shit together. Your scenario with FBG is funny, laughable and I completely agree. If I was saying "Hey I drafted Patrick Mahomes thinking passing yards were worth more! Can we change the scoring?" Then you might have a leg to stand on. All I did was point out a mistake in the scoring settings from 2022 to 2023 that was not a voted on or even suggested change. A mistake you claim to have noticed, but said nothing about. I'm not sure why you feel the need to act like its crazy to even suggest fixing that and then tell someone that they are the ones on a high horse Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,677 Posted September 8, 2023 4 minutes ago, Horseman said: Calling someone a douche is an actual insult. Doesn't bother me, just pointing out your hypocrisy. Have a nice season guy. I feel like telling someone to get off a high horse or calling them dummy is usually seen as an insult as well. Could be wrong, but I appreciate you pointing out my hypocrisy, guy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbivore 1,115 Posted September 9, 2023 6 hours ago, WhiteWonder said: I would be on board with that and think it makes sense ...but logically, the ESPN league should have been set up with the exact same scoring as we had on Yahoo in 2021 with any proposed changes being voted on and adjusted from there. I don't think anyone could argue otherwise. I dont recall the .05 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shorepatrol 1,870 Posted September 9, 2023 8 hours ago, Herbivore said: no changing the scoring at this point Agreed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,578 Posted September 9, 2023 Can someone explain the scoring kerfuffle to me like I am a 6 year old? maybe 7. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bostonlager 2,664 Posted September 9, 2023 43 minutes ago, edjr said: Can someone explain the scoring kerfuffle to me like I am a 6 year old? maybe 7. Its 1 pt/25 yards passing instead of 1 pt/20 yards Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbivore 1,115 Posted September 9, 2023 1 hour ago, edjr said: Can someone explain the scoring kerfuffle to me like I am a 6 year old? maybe 7. 1 hour ago, bostonlager said: Its 1 pt/25 yards passing instead of 1 pt/20 yards Bostonlager, WW, and Bier decided to change the scoring after the draft. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bostonlager 2,664 Posted September 9, 2023 11 minutes ago, Herbivore said: Bostonlager, WW, and Bier decided to change the scoring after the draft. WW changed it back to original 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,677 Posted September 9, 2023 2 hours ago, edjr said: Can someone explain the scoring kerfuffle to me like I am a 6 year old? maybe 7. simple stuff. passing yards scoring was 1pt per 20 yards last year. When BLM made the ESPN league he put it in as 1pt per 25 yards. No one caught it (or at least said anything). I suggested we fix it to what it was last season and there were several people against that so it stays as is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,578 Posted September 9, 2023 3 hours ago, WhiteWonder said: simple stuff. passing yards scoring was 1pt per 20 yards last year. When BLM made the ESPN league he put it in as 1pt per 25 yards. No one caught it (or at least said anything). I suggested we fix it to what it was last season and there were several people against that so it stays as is. I say we fix it to match last year. was a simple mistake. And I didn't take my 1st QB till the 11th round. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cloaca du jour 2,147 Posted September 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, edjr said: I say we fix it to match last year. was a simple mistake. Agree Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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WhiteWonder 2,677 Posted September 9, 2023 2 hours ago, edjr said: I say we fix it to match last year. was a simple mistake. And I didn't take my 1st QB till the 11th round. It's probably best just to leave it as it was entered. I think fixing it now would cause more complaints down the road. I only brought it up because my hope was to keep the league consistent from year to year (aside from proposed and voted changes), so it can remain this way moving forward.... Unfortunately I missed the way lager entered this one and didn't notice until I saw the goofy .54 score next to Herbivore's name. I don't need to be accused of crying or of possibly trying to change a rule to benefit my team in some way Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bostonlager 2,664 Posted September 10, 2023 I'm putting salmon on the smoker later, drinking coors light, Bengals on one tv, redzone channel on the other. Its a great time of year. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,578 Posted September 10, 2023 I will likely only watch the Iggles destroy the Patriots and be done for the day. I guess the SNFL might be worth a gander. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bier Meister 1,658 Posted September 10, 2023 11 minutes ago, bostonlager said: I'm putting salmon on the smoker later, drinking coors light, Bengals on one tv, redzone channel on the other. Its a great time of year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,389 Posted September 10, 2023 Wings and pizza, all homemade, here! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bostonlager 2,664 Posted September 10, 2023 Barely an hour in and I’m ready to pull an edjr Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cloaca du jour 2,147 Posted September 10, 2023 4 hours ago, bostonlager said: I'm putting salmon on the smoker later, drinking coors light, Bengals on one tv, redzone channel on the other. Its a great time of year. Go Browns!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bostonlager 2,664 Posted September 10, 2023 7 minutes ago, Cloaca du jour said: Go Browns!!! I was talking about my fantasy team, but yeah the Bengals look like garbage too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,404 Posted September 10, 2023 Tyreek Hill. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cloaca du jour 2,147 Posted September 10, 2023 14 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said: Tyreek Hill. Try Tee Higgins....I think he died. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shorepatrol 1,870 Posted September 11, 2023 Eat sh!t Burrow. Nice showing after getting that paycheck Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bostonlager 2,664 Posted September 11, 2023 Nice win, Bier. I will be back next week!!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bier Meister 1,658 Posted September 11, 2023 1 hour ago, bostonlager said: Nice win, Bier. I will be back next week!!! thank you I will lose my keeper by 9 due to no kelce... 3rd highest score Share this post Link to post Share on other sites