bimmer 7 Posted October 9, 2023 Rumors he's on IR or shutdown for the season? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,149 Posted October 9, 2023 Is that a statement or a question? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justforbeer 41 Posted October 9, 2023 Ouch, that would be crazy if he goes on ir Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jrokh 608 Posted October 9, 2023 Rumors from where X/Twitter? Sounds more like a 2-4 week thing.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bimmer 7 Posted October 9, 2023 22 minutes ago, jrokh said: Rumors from where X/Twitter? Sounds more like a 2-4 week thing.... From X NFC North news BREAKING: The #Vikings are shutting WR Justin Jefferson down for the remainder of the season after injuring his Hamstring on Sunday Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,057 Posted October 9, 2023 9 minutes ago, bimmer said: From X NFC North news BREAKING: The #Vikings are shutting WR Justin Jefferson down for the remainder of the season after injuring his Hamstring on Sunday This is a good reminder that you can put anything you want on the internet, and it isn’t necessarily true Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bimmer 7 Posted October 9, 2023 Then again Schefter just announced Vikings putting him in IR…Grade 2 strain. who knows 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
easilyscan 855 Posted October 9, 2023 36 minutes ago, bimmer said: Then again Schefter just announced Vikings putting him in IR…Grade 2 strain. who knows Addison is owned in my league, but Osborn is available. Since the Vikings are number 2 in passing, might be worth a look. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,797 Posted October 9, 2023 1 hour ago, IGotWorms said: This is a good reminder that you can put anything you want on the internet, and it isn’t necessarily true What is the truth since you seem.to know? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,149 Posted October 9, 2023 22 minutes ago, easilyscan said: Addison is owned in my league, but Osborn is available. Since the Vikings are number 2 in passing, might be worth a look. Agreed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jrokh 608 Posted October 9, 2023 1 hour ago, bimmer said: Then again Schefter just announced Vikings putting him in IR…Grade 2 strain. who knows Link? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,057 Posted October 9, 2023 1 hour ago, seafoam1 said: What is the truth since you seem.to know? I don’t know — there doesn’t seem to be any confirmed information out there right now. That’s the point. It is worth noting that the Vikings are 1-4. So unless they can get him back ASAP, they may not have much motivation to get him back in there several weeks from now. Then again maybe they win a few games without him and get near .500, then they do want him back for a playoff push. Seems like it’s probably very up in the air right now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,797 Posted October 10, 2023 2 hours ago, IGotWorms said: I don’t know — there doesn’t seem to be any confirmed information out there right now. That’s the point. It is worth noting that the Vikings are 1-4. So unless they can get him back ASAP, they may not have much motivation to get him back in there several weeks from now. Then again maybe they win a few games without him and get near .500, then they do want him back for a playoff push. Seems like it’s probably very up in the air right now Hamstring injuries suck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Law 241 Posted October 10, 2023 It's unfortunate that this site doesn't ban people more. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilroy69 1,215 Posted October 10, 2023 The vikes should trade cousins now. There is no chance of making the playoffs and you could probably get a 2nd at least. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,797 Posted October 10, 2023 4 minutes ago, kilroy69 said: The vikes should trade cousins now. There is no chance of making the playoffs and you could probably get a 2nd at least. Dude is 35 years old. Getting a 2nd round pick would be tough don't you think? Unless all a team needs to get to the post season is a decent QB. But I agree with you. Only problem is, I heard many times that Jefferson is only into winning. Like more than anyone and would probably not be happy with that move. He's in his 4th year now. I would love it because on my dynasty team I have Jaren Hall on my Taxi squad. Maybe the dude would get a chance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilroy69 1,215 Posted October 10, 2023 9 minutes ago, seafoam1 said: Dude is 35 years old. Getting a 2nd round pick would be tough don't you think? Unless all a team needs to get to the post season is a decent QB. But I agree with you. Only problem is, I heard many times that Jefferson is only into winning. Like more than anyone and would probably not be happy with that move. He's in his 4th year now. I would love it because on my dynasty team I have Jaren Hall on my Taxi squad. Maybe the dude would get a chance. He is on the last year of his contract. If the Jets traded for him they would not have to pay him to stay. He could just make a playoff push with them an leave at the end of the season. I would bet you the Jets would see a 2nd for him as a win as no one else is going to be willing to trade a starting caliber QB mid season and cousins is light years better than wilson. Adding cousins to the jets would automatically make them a superbowl contender. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,797 Posted October 10, 2023 5 minutes ago, kilroy69 said: He is on the last year of his contract. If the Jets traded for him they would not have to pay him to stay. He could just make a playoff push with them an leave at the end of the season. I would bet you the Jets would see a 2nd for him as a win as no one else is going to be willing to trade a starting caliber QB mid season and cousins is light years better than wilson. Adding cousins to the jets would automatically make them a superbowl contender. That was the only team that came to mind when you mentioned it. The only other situation would be like if Tua got another concussion or something. Miami is primed and ready to roll this year. If they lose Tua, they are stuck with MIke White. But then again, that would be an injury thing that would need to happen. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilroy69 1,215 Posted October 10, 2023 19 minutes ago, seafoam1 said: That was the only team that came to mind when you mentioned it. The only other situation would be like if Tua got another concussion or something. Miami is primed and ready to roll this year. If they lose Tua, they are stuck with MIke White. But then again, that would be an injury thing that would need to happen. The thing is that if something were to happen to Tua. Mike white may be able to actually win with that team. I mean look at all the weapons they have. They are talking about turning claypool into a TE for christs sake because they have too many fast WR's. If something happened to Allen in Buffalo they could do the same thing. Hell you may have some teams inquire to add him as a backup for their playoff push as a hedge to any injury. Again he is on the last year of his contract. No drama about him staying Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,149 Posted October 10, 2023 49 minutes ago, kilroy69 said: The vikes should trade cousins now. There is no chance of making the playoffs and you could probably get a 2nd at least. Agreed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gratefulegg1973 261 Posted October 10, 2023 Absolutely unbelievable. My team in that league has now lost: Chubb Jefferson Achane Javontae Williams Evans Welp, was a fun year. Serves me right for getting the #1 pick for the first time in 35 years. Focking joke Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jrokh 608 Posted October 10, 2023 36 minutes ago, kilroy69 said: would bet you the Jets would see a 2nd for him as a win as no one else is going to be willing to trade a starting caliber QB mid season and cousins is light years better than wilson. Adding cousins to the jets would automatically make them a superbowl contender. Jets don't have next year's 2nd rd pick. It's going to GB... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilroy69 1,215 Posted October 10, 2023 Just now, jrokh said: Jets don't have next year's 2nd rd pick. It's going to GB... That sucks but it does not have to be next year. or it could be a combo of other picks. If they really wanted to I bet they could make it work. Either way the vikes are done this year and Cousins is not expected to resign. If they want to get any return on him they are going to have to trade him to a QB needy team. Hell if they are really going to rebuild they should trade both cousins and jefferson. Even with a hamstring injury you could probably get 2 firsts or a first and 2nd from a team for jefferson. If your gonna rebuild it is going to take more than a year anyway so getting someones second the following year would be ok. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,057 Posted October 10, 2023 Pats should trade for cousins except their whole team sucks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,674 Posted October 10, 2023 7 hours ago, kilroy69 said: The vikes should trade cousins now. There is no chance of making the playoffs and you could probably get a 2nd at least. where are we getting no chance to make the playoffs at 1-4? A couple more losses and sure but the NFC is very top heavy and not very good beyond SF, Philly and maybe Detroit. The other teams with winning records are Dallas, Atlanta, New Orleans and Seattle. Who do we trust in that group? Rattle off 2 wins and the entire narrative changes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilroy69 1,215 Posted October 10, 2023 4 minutes ago, WhiteWonder said: where are we getting no chance to make the playoffs at 1-4? A couple more losses and sure but the NFC is very top heavy and not very good beyond SF, Philly and maybe Detroit. The other teams with winning records are Dallas, Atlanta, New Orleans and Seattle. Who do we trust in that group? Rattle off 2 wins and the entire narrative changes. They just lost the machine that moves their offense. They are sliding hamler in there. You think they are winning with that and a sub par run game? They may not win another game all season. They are taking on a surging bears team that suddenly found out Justin fields can throw. Who knew? not me certainly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,674 Posted October 10, 2023 7 hours ago, seafoam1 said: Dude is 35 years old. Getting a 2nd round pick would be tough don't you think? Unless all a team needs to get to the post season is a decent QB. But I agree with you. Only problem is, I heard many times that Jefferson is only into winning. Like more than anyone and would probably not be happy with that move. He's in his 4th year now. I would love it because on my dynasty team I have Jaren Hall on my Taxi squad. Maybe the dude would get a chance. 7 hours ago, kilroy69 said: He is on the last year of his contract. If the Jets traded for him they would not have to pay him to stay. He could just make a playoff push with them an leave at the end of the season. I would bet you the Jets would see a 2nd for him as a win as no one else is going to be willing to trade a starting caliber QB mid season and cousins is light years better than wilson. Adding cousins to the jets would automatically make them a superbowl contender. Pretty much this. JJ may be big on winning but the chances of Cousins even being the QB in Minny beyond this season is pretty low unless they make the playoffs AND win a game or two. thats the only way I could see the Vikings entertaining re-signing him. As for a trade, he might be had for a 3rd if they deem their season over. In which case, the Jets make perfect sense. It seems ridiculous, on the surface, to keep trading for old QBs... but no one anticipated that injury for Rodgers. Wilson is playing better and has improved mentally but NY is not a super bowl contender with him. They would be with Kirk. Then Kirk is gone after this season and Rodgers is back for 2024. Wilson can remain in a backup role and continue learning, as was the plan, to see if he can be salvaged for life after Rodgers. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,674 Posted October 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, kilroy69 said: They just lost the machine that moves their offense. They are sliding hamler in there. You think they are winning with that and a sub par run game? They may not win another game all season. They are taking on a surging bears team that suddenly found out Justin fields can throw. Who knew? not me certainly. I am not proclaiming they are a playoff team or even saying I think they will win games, just saying they probably are not ready to declare the season over and trade him NOW, as you said they should. JJ is arguable the best WR in the NFL (case can be made for a few guys I think) but they do still have Hockenson, Addison and KJ Osborn has played well in the past. Mattison is an issue. Maybe they should give Akers more run. JJ doesn't play defense, which has been an issue. Only 3 forced turnovers this year. there are things the team needs to get fixed that are independent of losing Jefferson. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilroy69 1,215 Posted October 10, 2023 Justin Jefferson had 100 plus yard games against the 2 good teams and 85 against a bad one in which he had 2 tds to make up for the lack of yards then got hurt. Addison is great but he is not even going to be the X. They are slotting Osborn in there. Osborn is not anything near Justin Jefferson. The defense is swiss cheese. I am a die hard lions fan sooooo I hope they keep him, let him walk and get nothing to be brutally honest but as an armchair GM trading him is what I would do. I actually hope the vikes bears game ends in a tie and the packers lose. As a lifelong lions fan. No lead is big enough for me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,674 Posted October 10, 2023 9 minutes ago, kilroy69 said: Justin Jefferson had 100 plus yard games against the 2 good teams and 85 against a bad one in which he had 2 tds to make up for the lack of yards then got hurt. Addison is great but he is not even going to be the X. They are slotting Osborn in there. Osborn is not anything near Justin Jefferson. The defense is swiss cheese. I am a die hard lions fan sooooo I hope they keep him, let him walk and get nothing to be brutally honest but as an armchair GM trading him is what I would do. I actually hope the vikes bears game ends in a tie. I own JJ in 2 redraft leagues. It sucks. But from a real football perspective, the numbers he puts up don't mean much. You're right, the defense is swiss cheese. They need to fix that and it has nothing to do with Jefferson. Obviously it's never ideal to lose your most talented offensive player but I don't think they are incapable of winning without him. I think that idea really only holds true when the star player that goes down is a QB. I can get behind the idea of trading Cousins but I would probably give it 3 more weeks. If they can beat chicago and green bay (and get crushed by the 49ers) I would think at 3-5 they would still be trying to win with the Falcons, Saints and Broncos on tap and JJ returning. Then again, waiting 3 weeks puts them like 2 days before the trade deadline so they would have to act fast. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bimmer 7 Posted October 11, 2023 ESPN’s Kevin Seifert believes Justin Jefferson (hamstring) “won’t feel rushed” to return from injured reserve. Sounds like it could be longer than 4 weeks minimum.... *sigh* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilroy69 1,215 Posted October 11, 2023 8 hours ago, bimmer said: ESPN’s Kevin Seifert believes Justin Jefferson (hamstring) “won’t feel rushed” to return from injured reserve. Sounds like it could be longer than 4 weeks minimum.... *sigh* He could be out for the year. Very little chance the vikes can make it to the playoffs. The vikes did not give him the contract extension he wanted AND he has an injury that is subjective to pain tolerance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,797 Posted October 11, 2023 27 minutes ago, kilroy69 said: He could be out for the year. Very little chance the vikes can make it to the playoffs. The vikes did not give him the contract extension he wanted AND he has an injury that is subjective to pain tolerance. Especially if the Vikings lose 3 out of the next 4, Jefferson could really take his time to come back. Hamstring injuries are a bltch and they tend to come back if not 100%. That dude has nothing left to prove. He can just chill out and figure out his future moves. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gratefulegg1973 261 Posted October 11, 2023 It amazes me that a player can tweak a hamstring in week 5, and be shut down for the year (in a 17 game season). WTF? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilroy69 1,215 Posted October 11, 2023 24 minutes ago, Gratefulegg1973 said: It amazes me that a player can tweak a hamstring in week 5, and be shut down for the year (in a 17 game season). WTF? It has more to do with the vikes screwing the pooch. They are out of playoff contention and they did not sign him to the deal he wants. The report that he "will not be rushed back" allows for him to let them know that even if the MRI shows nothing if he feels like it is not right he is not playing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,797 Posted October 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, kilroy69 said: It has more to do with the vikes screwing the pooch. They are out of playoff contention and they did not sign him to the deal he wants. The report that he "will not be rushed back" allows for him to let them know that even if the MRI shows nothing if he feels like it is not right he is not playing. I'm not a big fan of the whole trend of every new contract has to top the last guy who got a contract, but in this case, Jefferson deserves the payday unless the Vikings don't want to allocate that much money to the wide out position. Which is also valid. This is a WR they probably could actually a first and a second and possibly more if they traded him away to a needy contending team. Say goodbye to him and Cousins at the trade deadline and they could get the QB of their choice next year probably. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jrokh 608 Posted October 11, 2023 Obviously the Vikes are "soft tanking"... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilroy69 1,215 Posted October 11, 2023 6 minutes ago, jrokh said: Obviously the Vikes are "soft tanking"... The vikings had a good team. If I am not mistaken they have lost on the last possession of every game. Not a team that intended to tank. Just some bad breaks. Their window has likely been closed for this year and if they trade cousins then yes. They will be tanking for sure. Big difference in having a bad year and having just a bad enough team to make it look like you are not tanking. One is the Vikes. The other is the Cards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jrokh 608 Posted October 11, 2023 Nope, vikes are putting forth an entertaining team that is just good enough to make it appear as if they are not tanking. Just like the cards. No distinction necessary... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
