IGotWorms 4,058 Posted October 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said: What was I thinking? Black people cant get ID so they can’t fly in the first place. Never mind. Get a life 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,878 Posted October 30, 2023 1 hour ago, WhiteWonder said: you're still completely missing my point. That picture is a great illustration IF people follow the airline's guideline for carryon size. Most people do not (especially for international travel). So when people have carryon luggage that is 5+ inches taller than guidelines, how will it fit in that picture above so that the bin can be closed? Since the airlines are allowing these bags on board, the flight attendants then do what they must to fit the bag which often means flat or on its side but length wise rather than wheels first. I'm all for larger overhead bins but the reality is that its only helping a problem that the airlines could address by doing a bit better job policing oversized carry-ons. The taller ones (like 6 inches or so bigger than technically allowed) do actually fit in those. They might stick out but with the way it opens and closes it still closes. Sure, like a foot or so bigger probably wouldn’t fit, but American at least does police those (and people bringing on too many items) in my experience. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,910 Posted October 30, 2023 1 hour ago, IGotWorms said: Yes, you have to wait, and you’re an assh0le if you don’t. Only exception would be if it was actually their turn to get off, and they didn’t move with purpose at that point. Assuming they aren’t elderly or disabled or don’t have a bunch of little kids or whatever I'm in row 20 rows 16 and up are clear. I'm standing there ready to go. Are you saying I should continue to stand there even though the way is clear and "wait for my turn" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,878 Posted October 30, 2023 The new bins apparently fit 60% more: https://thepointsguy.com/news/delta-airbus-a321neo-first-look-tour/ That means few if any bags on planes with them need to be checked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted October 30, 2023 28 minutes ago, Cdub100 said: I'm in row 20 rows 16 and up are clear. I'm standing there ready to go. Are you saying I should continue to stand there even though the way is clear and "wait for my turn" Yes, because that’s the way it works. You are waiting in line, and everyone in every row in front of you is in that line. Unless, of course, they’re continuing on to another destination, or they’ve taken themselves out of the line for whatever reason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,899 Posted October 30, 2023 32 minutes ago, Cdub100 said: I'm in row 20 rows 16 and up are clear. I'm standing there ready to go. Are you saying I should continue to stand there even though the way is clear and "wait for my turn" That's the way civilized society works, yes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,910 Posted October 30, 2023 4 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: Yes, because that’s the way it works. You are waiting in line, and everyone in every row in front of you is in that line. Unless, of course, they’re continuing on to another destination, or they’ve taken themselves out of the line for whatever reason. Maybe I'm not being clear, because that's focking stupid and might explain why it takes forever to get off a plane. The seatbelt sign is off. I'm standing in the aisle, backpack on, and ready to walk off. I'm standing next to my seat in aisle 20. Everyone in rows 16 and up has left. There's two people in aisle 17 slowly putting their crap in their bags same for aisle 18 and 19. The aisle leaving the plan is completely clear. Nobody in front of me. What youre saying is I have to wait for the people in the three rows in front of me who aren't even standing to leave before I leave? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,738 Posted October 30, 2023 31 minutes ago, TimHauck said: The new bins apparently fit 60% more: https://thepointsguy.com/news/delta-airbus-a321neo-first-look-tour/ That means few if any bags on planes with them need to be checked. Quote These larger bins should help limit the number of bags that need to be gate-checked. Limiting gate checked bags is completely different and again, still does not address the larger problem of allowing way too big carry on bags to be brought on board. If they plan to increase the allowed carry on size, then increasing the size of the bins won't really make a difference and if they don't plan to increase the allowed size then they are just fixing an issue that they create in the first place. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,738 Posted October 30, 2023 12 minutes ago, Cdub100 said: Maybe I'm not being clear, because that's focking stupid and might explain why it takes forever to get off a plane. The seatbelt sign is off. I'm standing in the aisle, backpack on, and ready to walk off. I'm standing next to my seat in aisle 20. Everyone in rows 16 and up has left. There's two people in aisle 17 slowly putting their crap in their bags same for aisle 18 and 19. The aisle leaving the plan is completely clear. Nobody in front of me. What youre saying is I have to wait for the people in the three rows in front of me who aren't even standing to leave before I leave? what he's saying is correct. Doesn't mean you need to wait , but technically you should wait for each row in front of you to exit (unless they are purposely remaining seated) Since I always sit in the aisle, and I put anything i've taken out back in my personal bag before we even land, I am always ready to go. No one should be passing me from behind, so I have my carryon in front of me in the aisle and my backpack on. If, like you said, the aisle is clear and there are 4-5 rows in front of me taking their sweet time to gather belongings, I am swiftly walking past them. If I got stuck in a middle seat, i'm SOL unless the aisle person pulls the same move. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,910 Posted October 30, 2023 7 minutes ago, WhiteWonder said: what he's saying is correct. Doesn't mean you need to wait , but technically you should wait for each row in front of you to exit (unless they are purposely remaining seated) Since I always sit in the aisle, and I put anything i've taken out back in my personal bag before we even land, I am always ready to go. No one should be passing me from behind, so I have my carryon in front of me in the aisle and my backpack on. If, like you said, the aisle is clear and there are 4-5 rows in front of me taking their sweet time to gather belongings, I am swiftly walking past them. If I got stuck in a middle seat, i'm SOL unless the aisle person pulls the same move. Yes that's what I'm talking about. I notice a lot of people still wait. I don't understand and always felt the sooner I leave the more room that gives people behind me and gives them a chance to get off the plan faster. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted October 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Cdub100 said: Maybe I'm not being clear, because that's focking stupid and might explain why it takes forever to get off a plane. The seatbelt sign is off. I'm standing in the aisle, backpack on, and ready to walk off. I'm standing next to my seat in aisle 20. Everyone in rows 16 and up has left. There's two people in aisle 17 slowly putting their crap in their bags same for aisle 18 and 19. The aisle leaving the plan is completely clear. Nobody in front of me. What youre saying is I have to wait for the people in the three rows in front of me who aren't even standing to leave before I leave? Yes. Now at some point if they’re being so slow as to effectively concede their place in “line,” and they don’t have some excuse for moving slow (disabled, old, small children), then maybe the situation shifts. But tread carefully Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted October 30, 2023 45 minutes ago, Cdub100 said: Yes that's what I'm talking about. I notice a lot of people still wait. I don't understand and always felt the sooner I leave the more room that gives people behind me and gives them a chance to get off the plan faster. It really depends if you’re the assh0le trying to shove past people or looking for any tiny little sliver of daylight, or if the aisle truly is clear and the people in front simply are not trying to get off the plane in a timely fashion Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,738 Posted October 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Cdub100 said: Yes that's what I'm talking about. I notice a lot of people still wait. I don't understand and always felt the sooner I leave the more room that gives people behind me and gives them a chance to get off the plan faster. And I do the same thing you do but technically in terms of plane etiquette it's not really the right move. You could also say that those people in the rows in front of you should be prepared to exit in a more timely manner (assuming no issues) but it's hard to time / determine when you are really clear to pass them... and honestly, someone in the middle or window seat in a row in front of you hasn't even had a chance to step out into the aisle and get their carry on. Basically, do what you're saying but be prepared that if the guy 4-5 rows in front of you finishes zipping up has backpack and turns into the aisle and smashes into you, it's your bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,910 Posted October 30, 2023 23 minutes ago, WhiteWonder said: And I do the same thing you do but technically in terms of plane etiquette it's not really the right move. You could also say that those people in the rows in front of you should be prepared to exit in a more timely manner (assuming no issues) but it's hard to time / determine when you are really clear to pass them... and honestly, someone in the middle or window seat in a row in front of you hasn't even had a chance to step out into the aisle and get their carry on. Basically, do what you're saying but be prepared that if the guy 4-5 rows in front of you finishes zipping up has backpack and turns into the aisle and smashes into you, it's your bad. Oh well. I just want off the plane. I'm not pushing and shoving but if it's clear I'm gone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,674 Posted October 30, 2023 The new thing I noticed recently is more people claiming a disability so they can get on the plane first. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,196 Posted October 30, 2023 Lots of disabled people in the world today. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,215 Posted October 31, 2023 36 minutes ago, nobody said: The new thing I noticed recently is more people claiming a disability so they can get on the plane first. My preferred airline also has an early boarding for people with small kids. I think I’m seeing people with 2nd graders going on then Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patented Phil 1,469 Posted October 31, 2023 2 hours ago, Cdub100 said: Oh well. I just want off the plane. I'm not pushing and shoving but if it's clear I'm gone. This should go without saying, but everyone wants to get off the plane. Look, if someone ahead of you is dilly-dallying in their seat and it'll be 3 or 4 seconds before they can get into the aisle, it's fine to sneak past them. But there have been times where I am in the middle or window seat and someone from the rows behind is already in the aisle and won't give me a split second to move into the aisle to get my luggage out of the bin. That's rude but tolerable. What is intolerable - and what I was really speaking to - is the rare situation when as soon as the seatbelt light goes off some dikkhead starts walking down the aisle. I've only seen it happen a few times, and each time it was on a flight originating out of New York. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,910 Posted October 31, 2023 12 minutes ago, Patented Phil said: This should go without saying, but everyone wants to get off the plane. Look, if someone ahead of you is dilly-dallying in their seat and it'll be 3 or 4 seconds before they can get into the aisle, it's fine to sneak past them. But there have been times where I am in the middle or window seat and someone from the rows behind is already in the aisle and won't give me a split second to move into the aisle to get my luggage out of the bin. That's rude but tolerable. What is intolerable - and what I was really speaking to - is the rare situation when as soon as the seatbelt light goes off some dikkhead starts walking down the aisle. I've only seen it happen a few times, and each time it was on a flight originating out of New York. I've never done that. Although I understand if people have short connecting and the plane has been delayed. BL - I want off that plane. I don't like being crammed in with all those people. I don't like sitting for multiple hours I want out. I find people who take their sweet azz time inconsiderate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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IGotWorms 4,058 Posted October 31, 2023 13 minutes ago, Cdub100 said: I've never done that. Although I understand if people have short connecting and the plane has been delayed. BL - I want off that plane. I don't like being crammed in with all those people. I don't like sitting for multiple hours I want out. I find people who take their sweet azz time inconsiderate. You and everyone else Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,034 Posted October 31, 2023 18 hours ago, IGotWorms said: Get a life A guy on an internet chat site telling someone to "get a life". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,910 Posted October 31, 2023 12 hours ago, IGotWorms said: You and everyone else I question that with some people... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,910 Posted November 1, 2023 Here I am... They could get up and start getting ready but most sit there like sheep. Idiots making deplaning take twice as long as it should. They could get their bags out of the bins but nope. https://ibb.co/L6rQKX1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,215 Posted November 1, 2023 10 minutes ago, Cdub100 said: Here I am... They could get up and start getting ready but most sit there like sheep. Idiots making deplaning take twice as long as it should. They could get their bags out of the bins but nope. https://ibb.co/L6rQKX1 They just need to start getting up / ready when about 5 rows in front of them start moving. No need for everyone to stand up all the way back immediately. Especially on a puddle jumper. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted November 1, 2023 47 minutes ago, thegeneral said: They just need to start getting up / ready when about 5 rows in front of them start moving. No need for everyone to stand up all the way back immediately. Especially on a puddle jumper. Well and there’s only so much aisle space available. If I’m on the window or even, god forbid, the middle, there’s not much chance I can even get out there to start grabbing my stuff until the very last moment. And I sure as sh1t ain’t having some ahole from the back of the plane (by the sh1tters, where he belongs) shoving past me because he thought I was having a little doze in my seat whilst literally every focking person on the plane is desperately wanting the hell off Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,910 Posted November 1, 2023 50 minutes ago, thegeneral said: They just need to start getting up / ready when about 5 rows in front of them start moving. No need for everyone to stand up all the way back immediately. Especially on a puddle jumper. We are on a small ass plane. Get up get your and be ready to move. You getting up allows the person next to you more room to start getting their sh1t together. No they wait until it's their to get up get their bags etc... Getting off the plane is broken because idiots just sit there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,034 Posted November 1, 2023 39 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: Well and there’s only so much aisle space available. If I’m on the window or even, god forbid, the middle, there’s not much chance I can even get out there to start grabbing my stuff until the very last moment. And I sure as sh1t ain’t having some ahole from the back of the plane (by the sh1tters, where he belongs) shoving past me because he thought I was having a little doze in my seat whilst literally every focking person on the plane is desperately wanting the hell off Get a life. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,215 Posted November 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Cdub100 said: We are on a small ass plane. Get up get your and be ready to move. You getting up allows the person next to you more room to start getting their sh1t together. No they wait until it's their to get up get their bags etc... Getting off the plane is broken because idiots just sit there. Just get up a bit before. Otherwise I have someone’s ass in my face. Also can’t even stand up straight on those little planes so there’s also that. I agree have some sense of urgency and be ready to go, no dillydallying. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites