Colorado Trial to Disqualify Trump from the Ballot

[Engorgeous George 2,238]

Arguments in lawsuit using ‘insurrection’ clause to knock Trump off presidential ballots begins | PBS NewsHour

I used a PBS link.  There are other links to this, both local and national covering essentially the same story if one cares to look and one finds PBS links biased.

 

Essentially there is an effort to keep Trump from being on the Colorado ballot next year.  The argument is under Article 3 of the 14th amendment.  The arguement is that those who engage in insurrection are not eligible for office if they have once taken an oath to uphold and protect the Constitution.  I find the matter interesting for two reasons.  First, the 14th amendment came about during reconstruction after the  civil war.  Fairly clearly the concept of "insurrection" being addressed by the amendment was the recently resolved civil war.  To compare the disorderly riot of Jan. 6 to insurrection as contempalted at the time seem in apropos.  There are other arguments with the language including whether it covers Presidents, but that is the main argument.  Second, the judge hearing the matter is a democrat.  I do not have any issue with that.  But this particular judge made a contribution to a group specifically seeking to forward the very argument she is now hearing.  She states she has an open mind and will not recuse herself, but to me the issue is not whether she does or not so much as the appearance of bias given her donation.  How is her ruling, even if correct and fair, to be recieved in light of her contribution.  The ruling will lack some moral authority given her contribution.  Of course today how do you find a judge who is not from one side of the political spectrum or the other?    

 

Curious if any here are following this. 

[TimHauck 2,667]

Dems are stupid.  Running against Trump is their best chance of winning.

[weepaws 3,159]

Wouldn’t it be great if it did happen, trump will be giving us a lot more of his bs if it indeed did happen.  

[Tree of Knowledge 1,770]

Hopefully, these folks pay a heavy price in 2025 during the Trump Revenge Tour.  

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,290]

It’s all part of the abolish the electoral ballots campaign. Get him off ballots in super libtard states then he loses the popular vote by 35 mil but wins the electoral. All hell breaks lose

[Blue Horseshoe 348]

5 hours ago, Engorgeous George said:

Curious if any here are following this. 

 

The long term plan for Team Blue and the DNC is to reload SCOTUS with "creatures of their own design" 

You can only change SCOTUS through death or retirement. And it's not looking good for 2024 for Team Blue and Obama/Biden regime. 

The more cases that can be forced to SCOTUS that will end up being "perceived" to be slanted in favor of all things Trump, then that will incite more and more fringe radicals on the deep end activist left to be enraged to the point of some extremists coming to pick off a Conservative Catholic Justice on SCOTUS. 

There was already an assassin caught by US Marshals with a gun near Kavanaugh's personal residence. Merrick Garland literally did nothing about it. Even though those kind of "protests" are illegal. You can't just picket in front of a judge's house. The goal is to intimidate them to rule or lean a certain way. 

Trying to disqualify Trump from the 2024 ballot will never survive SCOTUS. Never. The potential legal slippery slope is too devastating to imagine. However that's not the design, the design is to make Coney Barrett, Thomas, Alito, Gorsuch, Roberts and Kavanaugh as targets. To incite someone to go after them for real before the 2024 general cycle. 

Personally, I don't agree with the grifting done by Thomas and Alito to enrich themselves personal through big money donors. But let's not pretend about this anymore - Team Blue, the left leaning corporate establishment, the DNC and the remnants of the Obama/Biden/Clinton political machine want the FedSoc elements of SCOTUS currently to get wiped out. They want them gone. Had Team Blue realized the end result of Ruth Bader Ginsberg on current SCOTUS, there is ZERO DOUBT in my mind that she would have been handled the way Diane Feinstein was handled. 

There is no other way around it, the activist radical left with the hard push behind them by the corporate establishment want Conservatives put down period. They want us gone for good. What exactly did Amy Coney Barrett do to anyone? Team Blue doesn't care. They want another version of Elena Kagan ( a Clinton shill who has never served on the bench) to replace her as fast as possible. 

[5-Points 3,439]

Wouldn't he have to be formally charged with insurrection or treason or something before he can be DQ'd from running for POTUS?

 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,967]

Well, IMO, he hasn't been convicted of ANYTHING yet, so I don' t even know how the trial can even proceed.  It seems to me that the only conclusion absent a "INSURRECTION!!! OMG!!" conviction is they have to let him on the ballot.

 

Update: @5-Points beat me to it by a nanosecond!  You bastard!!

[5-Points 3,439]

4 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Well, IMO, he hasn't been convicted of ANYTHING yet, so I don' t even know how the trial can even proceed.  It seems to me that the only conclusion absent a "INSURRECTION!!! OMG!!" conviction is they have to let him on the ballot.

 

Update: @5-Points beat me to it by a nanosecond!  You bastard!!

This is election interference. They are trying to get a guy DQ'd from running because they don't want people to be able to vote for him. 

They are literally destroying democracy. This is an attack on our Republic and they should all be hanged for treason. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,967]

5 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

This is election interference. They are trying to get a guy DQ'd from running because they don't want people to be able to vote for him. 

They are literally destroying democracy. This is an attack on our Republic and they should all be hanged for treason. 

100% - and that's not even debatable.  They know they're doing it and don't care.  Leftist Authoritarians don't care about Democracy - all they care about is power.

[5-Points 3,439]

3 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

100% - and that's not even debatable.  They know they're doing it and don't care.  Leftist Authoritarians don't care about Democracy - all they care about is power.

It's undeniable. 

[Dozer FBG 325]

39 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

Wouldn't he have to be formally charged with insurrection or treason or something before he can be DQ'd from running for POTUS?

 

It’s important to remember that there is no crime statute, or what ever that is simply called “insurrection.”

Its also important to remember that Trump has been charged with 91 felonies, many having to do with his role in the baloney sandwich that occurred on J6.

I doubt anything will come of the Colorado case, but it’s pretty clear that, whatever you want to call what happened on J6, it was Trumps fault.

It’s this part that makes me wonder:

”…shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same,…”

I think everyone could agree that J6 was rebellious.

but, like always, he’ll skate.

[Dozer FBG 325]

39 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

This is election interference. They are trying to get a guy DQ'd from running because they don't want people to be able to vote for him. 

They are literally destroying democracy. This is an attack on our Republic and they should all be hanged for treason. 

I disagree. In fact, when Trump makes his baseless claims of a stolen election, it is he that is trying to overturn a free and fair election that he lost.

That is fundamentally anti-democracy. All in my opinion, of course.

[5-Points 3,439]

8 minutes ago, Dozer FBG said:

It’s important to remember that there is no crime statute, or what ever that is simply called “insurrection.”

Its also important to remember that Trump has been charged with 91 felonies, many having to do with his role in the baloney sandwich that occurred on J6.

I doubt anything will come of the Colorado case, but it’s pretty clear that, whatever you want to call what happened on J6, it was Trumps fault.

It’s this part that makes me wonder:

”…shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same,…”

I think everyone could agree that J6 was rebellious.

but, like always, he’ll skate.

So a guy in his late 70's, who has never been charged with a serious crime, all of a sudden is facing 91 felonies in multiple jurisdictions, all of which are politically motivated. 

Yeah, nothing fishy about that. 

Also, Trump specifically said the words "peacefully and patriotically make our voices heard" in the lead up to the mostly peaceful protest at the Capitol. 

[5-Points 3,439]

13 minutes ago, Dozer FBG said:

I disagree. In fact, when Trump makes his baseless claims of a stolen election, it is he that is trying to overturn a free and fair election that he lost.

That is fundamentally anti-democracy. All in my opinion, of course.

If questioning the validity of an election is a crime, Hillary should've been charged. That manatee in Georgia still claims to have won the Governorship. Al Gore did the same thing. 

Weird how all of a sudden now it's  a problem. 

[Blue Horseshoe 348]

17 minutes ago, Dozer FBG said:

I disagree. In fact, when Trump makes his baseless claims of a stolen election, it is he that is trying to overturn a free and fair election that he lost.

That is fundamentally anti-democracy. All in my opinion, of course.

 

 

[Dozer FBG 325]

5 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

So a guy in his late 70's, who has never been charged with a serious crime, all of a sudden is facing 91 felonies in multiple jurisdictions, all of which are politically motivated. 

Yeah, nothing fishy about that. 

Also, Trump specifically said the words "peacefully and patriotically make our voices heard" in the lead up to the mostly peaceful protest at the Capitol. 

He also said “fight like hell or you won’t have a country”, right? 
 

 

[Dozer FBG 325]

5 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

If questioning the validity of an election is a crime, Hillary should've been charged. That manatee in Georgia still claims to have won the Governorship. Al Gore did the same thing. 

Weird how all of a sudden now it's  a problem. 

I’m sorry, but I can’t even put the three farts in the wind you mentioned in the same universe as what Trump has been charged with.

[Dozer FBG 325]

13 minutes ago, Blue Horseshoe said:

 

 

Did you respond to my post on accident? This doesn’t seem to address my comment you replied to in any way…

[5-Points 3,439]

9 minutes ago, Dozer FBG said:

He also said “fight like hell or you won’t have a country”, right? 
 

 

Why is it that Trump is the only politician whose words are taken literally? 

Old Chucky Schumer gets a pass for inciting violence against SCOTUS Justices but Trump must've meant "rise up and overthrow the government!" He couldn't possibly have meant "fight like hell (at the ballot box) or you won't have a country."

The double standard would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic. 

[5-Points 3,439]

13 minutes ago, Dozer FBG said:

I’m sorry, but I can’t even put the three farts in the wind you mentioned in the same universe as what Trump has been charged with.

Either questioning the validity of election outcomes is a thing or it isn't. 

You can't have it both ways. 

[Dozer FBG 325]

5 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

Why is it that Trump is the only politician whose words are taken literally? 

Old Chucky Schumer gets a pass for inciting violence against SCOTUS Justices but Trump must've meant "rise up and overthrow the government!" He couldn't possibly have meant "fight like hell (at the ballot box) or you won't have a country."

The double standard would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic. 

Trump is not the only politician whose words should be taken literally, but he is the subject of this thread.

[Voltaire 5,277]

5 hours ago, 5-Points said:

Wouldn't he have to be formally charged with insurrection or treason or something before he can be DQ'd from running for POTUS?

 

No, that doesn't matter. In Colorado, the Democratic party executive committee gets to filter through the options and pre-select which candidates you are allowed to vote for.

[Dozer FBG 325]

6 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

Either questioning the validity of election outcomes is a thing or it isn't. 

You can't have it both ways. 

Are you aware of how long those other three went on for? Did Hill and Al try to fund raise on those claims? Did they base a new campaign on debunked claims?

I have no issue with being critical of the three occurrences you mention, but comparing them with Trumps wild claims and outright lies is disingenuous.

[5-Points 3,439]

3 minutes ago, Dozer FBG said:

Trump is not the only politician whose words should be taken literally, but he is the subject of this thread.

Nice sidestep.

And no, the subject of this thread is ant-America, democracy hating, libs who are so afraid of Trump winning again, they have to try to get him removed from the ballot so people can't vote for him. 

 

[5-Points 3,439]

3 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

No, that doesn't matter. In Colorado, the Democratic party executive committee gets to filter through the options and pre-select which candidates you are allowed to vote for.

Seems legit. 

[5-Points 3,439]

3 minutes ago, Dozer FBG said:

Are you aware of how long those other three went on for? Did Hill and Al try to fund raise on those claims? Did they base a new campaign on debunked claims?

I have no issue with being critical of the three occurrences you mention, but comparing them with Trumps wild claims and outright lies is disingenuous.

Hillary went on TV for years claiming Trump was an illegitimate President. You don't think that had an impact? She absolutely would've used it to raise funds if she hadn't finally realized nobody likes her and she'd never be POTUS. 

Al went on to invent both the internet and global warming to get rich. 

And as far as I know, Abrams is still claiming to have won that election. 

[Dozer FBG 325]

2 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

Nice sidestep.

And no, the subject of this thread is ant-America, democracy hating, libs who are so afraid of Trump winning again, they have to try to get him removed from the ballot so people can't vote for him. 

 

No.

The subject of this thread is section three of the fourteenth amendment.

If you read the amendment it may relieve some of your anxiety and you may more clearly understand democracy.

Cornell Law School Link to The 14th amendment

[RogerDodger 797]

 

 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,967]

57 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

If questioning the validity of an election is a crime, Hillary should've been charged. That manatee in Georgia still claims to have won the Governorship. Al Gore did the same thing. 

Weird how all of a sudden now it's  a problem. 

Yep.  Zealots like Dozer only consume what they get from the far left Glory Hole and nothing else.  No questions asked.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,967]

51 minutes ago, Dozer FBG said:

I’m sorry, but I can’t even put the three farts in the wind you mentioned in the same universe as what Trump has been charged with.

Of course you can't. Zealots never can. 

Scientology only wishes it has non-thinking, sheep-like zealots in their ranks like you.  Someone does your thinking for you and then tells you what it is.

[Tree of Knowledge 1,770]

The penalty for this lawfare should be much much worse than the punishment given to 1/6 tourists.  If Colorado is successful in keeping Father Trump off the ballot, then hopefully they are removed from the union when he wins the 2024 election.  

[Dizkneelande 1,093]

24 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Of course you can't. Zealots never can. 

Scientology only wishes it has non-thinking, sheep-like zealots in their ranks like you.  Someone does your thinking for you and then tells you what it is.

This turd thinks the Steele dossier is legitimate.

[Dozer FBG 325]

20 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said:

The penalty for this lawfare should be much much worse than the punishment given to 1/6 tourists.  If Colorado is successful in keeping Father Trump off the ballot, then hopefully they are removed from the union when he wins the 2024 election.  

Hi KD! Hope you’re doing well…

So, that guy that tazered the cop in the neck… 

“Honey, take my photo!”

Lol

[Dozer FBG 325]

11 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said:

This turd thinks the Steele dossier is legitimate.

You are such a chicken shirt.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,137]

Yeah, fight like hell means do violence. Like when someone has cancer and you tell them to “fight like hell”. Who is this ass-hole dozer? Another Football guys wuss? 

[Tree of Knowledge 1,770]

13 minutes ago, Dozer FBG said:

Hi KD! Hope you’re doing well…

So, that guy that tazered the cop in the neck… 

“Honey, take my photo!”

Lol

Maybe Colorado can be designated a sanctuary reservation. Bad hombres and illegals can be transported to Colorado and we wall it off

[Dozer FBG 325]

14 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said:

Maybe Colorado can be designated a sanctuary reservation. Bad hombres and illegals can be transported to Colorado and we wall it off

Boobert is all over that!!

[Dozer FBG 325]

17 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Yeah, fight like hell means do violence. Like when someone has cancer and you tell them to “fight like hell”. Who is this ass-hole dozer? Another Football guys wuss? 

Man… they way you type words…

it’s very impressive.

fake internet tough guy.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,137]

4 minutes ago, Dozer FBG said:

Man… they way you type words…

it’s very impressive.

fake internet tough guy.

“He said fight like hell”. When you were on the cheerleader squad, didn’t you tell the football players to “fight! fight! fight!” Were you and the other gals inciting violence too?