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1 hour ago, MDC said:

None of the board libs I know of defend rioting and looting but you clowns are here day after day calling January 6 a selfie fest.

 

 

I consider the 5000+ who breached the Capitol on J6 to be indefensible. Even if you walked in and touched nothing and walked out, none of that is good for our country. 

Do I feel there is a double standard from the 2016 election when federal buildings had trespassing and/or worse over Trump winning? Yes, but it's a separate issue. 

Do I feel there is a double standard right now from what's going on with Pro Palestine protests where federal and state buildings are being breached? Yes, but that's a separate issue. 

Do I feel there is a double standard over the rioting, looting and burning in 2020 that extended even into 2021? Yes, but that's a separate issue. 

Do I believe the actions of 5000+ are being used to endlessly smear the 74 million in total who voted for Trump in the 2020 cycle? Yes, but that's a separate issue. 

My answer is simple. I'd like to see a Constitutional Amendment where everyone who breached the Capitol, no matter how much or for how long or whether there was violence or not, to lose their citizenship and be kicked out of the country. Right after all their assets are seized. BUT (and there's a huge BUT here), that punishment should also happen for everyone who looted, burned, rioted, incited and egged on the violence in 2020. 

If you want to see 5000+ plus Republicans who breached the Capitol on J6 to get permanently thrown out of the country, I won't argue with you. I'd support that. 

But I'd also want everyone who destroyed and looted and crushed innocent small business owners and just regular working class Americans in 2020, night after night endlessly to suffer the same fate. That total number will likely tally around 400K people across the country.  That will also include Kyle Rittenhouse as well. If you are outside when it's clearly a riot, and part of it, and buildings are burning, then you need to get kicked out. 

I don't think there's a Conservative in here, right now, who wouldn't trade 5000+ Republicans, many of them zealots, to see over 400K of the worst bad faith actors and deviants from the activist radical left get tossed out too. 

Two wrongs don't make a right. Two different things can be true at the same time. There were likely some instances in J6, where some people breached and did no violence. Didn't try to hurt anyone. And other instances where some people really tried to hurt others, including the Capitol Police. They are all in the same boat in my book, kick them out. But kick out the 400K as well from 2020. ( Keep in mind this would also toss out, implied, the organizers and ring leaders, which means it would crater small dollar political donations for Team Blue, across the board, for at least two full decades. It would literally guarantee Team Blue and the DNC would lose masses of down the ticket elections for 20 years at minimum, since once you cut off the money spigot, you also make it impossible to win an election.) 

Put on trial. Citizenship stripped. Assets seized. Thrown out of the country for good. If you attempt to return, you are executed. I'd support a Constitutional Amendment doing that. 

 

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10 minutes ago, jonmx said:

The f-ing cowardly cop should be doing life in prison.  

For trying to defend/protect members of Congress and the VP from a literal lynch mob? ("Hang Mike Pence")?

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7 minutes ago, Blue Horseshoe said:

 

I consider the 5000+ who breached the Capitol on J6 to be indefensible. Even if you walked in and touched nothing and walked out, none of that is good for our country. 

Do I feel there is a double standard from the 2016 election when federal buildings had trespassing and/or worse over Trump winning? Yes, but it's a separate issue. 

Do I feel there is a double standard right now from what's going on with Pro Palestine protests where federal and state buildings are being breached? Yes, but that's a separate issue. 

Do I feel there is a double standard over the rioting, looting and burning in 2020 that extended even into 2021? Yes, but that's a separate issue. 

Do I believe the actions of 5000+ are being used to endlessly smear the 74 million in total who voted for Trump in the 2020 cycle? Yes, but that's a separate issue. 

My answer is simple. I'd like to see a Constitutional Amendment where everyone who breached the Capitol, no matter how much or for how long or whether there was violence or not, to lose their citizenship and be kicked out of the country. Right after all their assets are seized. BUT (and there's a huge BUT here), that punishment should also happen for everyone who looted, burned, rioted, incited and egged on the violence in 2020. 

If you want to see 5000+ plus Republicans who breached the Capitol on J6 to get permanently thrown out of the country, I won't argue with you. I'd support that. 

But I'd also want everyone who destroyed and looted and crushed innocent small business owners and just regular working class Americans in 2020, night after night endlessly to suffer the same fate. That total number will likely tally around 400K people across the country.  That will also include Kyle Rittenhouse as well. If you are outside when it's clearly a riot, and part of it, and buildings are burning, then you need to get kicked out. 

I don't think there's a Conservative in here, right now, who wouldn't trade 5000+ Republicans, many of them zealots, to see over 400K of the worst bad faith actors and deviants from the activist radical left get tossed out too. 

Two wrongs don't make a right. Two different things can be true at the same time. There were likely some instances in J6, where some people breached and did no violence. Didn't try to hurt anyone. And other instances where some people really tried to hurt others, including the Capitol Police. They are all in the same boat in my book, kick them out. But kick out the 400K as well from 2020. ( Keep in mind this would also toss out, implied, the organizers and ring leaders, which means it would crater small dollar political donations for Team Blue, across the board, for at least two full decades. It would literally guarantee Team Blue and the DNC would lose masses of down the ticket elections for 20 years at minimum, since once you cut off the money spigot, you also make it impossible to win an election.) 

Put on trial. Citizenship stripped. Assets seized. Thrown out of the country for good. If you attempt to return, you are executed. I'd support a Constitutional Amendment doing that. 

 

 

You can not say 'yes, but that is a separate issue'.   And you also can not create new rules to retroactively apply, even if you apply them equally.

You must use the laws and rules in place and treat every American regardless of how you feel about their race, sex, religion or politics equally.  Laws must be evenly enforced and can not be applied based on biases.   Our whole system of justice is based on precedent (whataboutisms) and fairness.  

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2 minutes ago, squistion said:

For trying to defend/protect members of Congress and the VP from a literal lynch mob? ("Hang Mike Pence")?

 

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7 minutes ago, squistion said:

For trying to defend/protect members of Congress and the VP from a literal lynch mob? ("Hang Mike Pence")?

For shooting an unarmed woman who posed no immediate threat in front of a hallway which was protected by several rows of heavily armed offices?  Hell yes, he should be in prison.  A cowardly untrained oberpaid officer who had no business being in that job. 

Exactly how many people were lynched or even remotely close to being lynched that day?  Let me help you, exactly zero.  You are so a dumbfuk. 

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Just now, jonmx said:

For shooting an unarmed woman who posed no immediate threat in front of a hallway which was protected by several rows of heavily armed offices?  Hell yes, he should be in prison.  A cowardly untrained oberpaid officer who had no business being in thst job. 

It was an immediate thread if she had broken into the chamber followed by the lawless mob.

She was warned by several people that the officer had a gun. 

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5 minutes ago, squistion said:

It was an immediate thread if she had broken into the chamber followed by the lawless mob.

She was warned by several people that the officer had a gun. 

Lawless mob, what a BS characterization.  The people were conversing with agents.  None of them were assaulting anyone.   They were guilty of trespassing and vandalism at that point.  None of which justifies deadly force.  

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12 minutes ago, squistion said:

She was warned by several people that the officer had a gun

What kind of gun did she have? 

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17 minutes ago, squistion said:

It was an immediate thread if she had broken into the chamber followed by the lawless mob.

She was warned by several people that the officer had a gun. 

Yes.  Officers carrying guns is rare. 

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6 minutes ago, League Champion said:

What kind of gun did she have? 

Irrelevant in that she was leading a mob that would have attacked Pence and members of Congress with murderous intent (according to witness testimony of some of the participants).

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1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

If someone broke down your door and charged into your home with a bunch of people behind her would you have the right to shoot them? I would say yes. 
YOU are the one bootlicking. You look for any excuse to avoid blaming the bad guys in this affair. 

And do you suppose this is an apt analogy?

 

Perhaps a more apt analogy would be:  If someone was in the process of breaking into your place of employment on a live newsfed carried by every network, and she had folks behind her acting disorderly would your security force outnumbering her 20 to one have the right to kill the unarmed woman rather than say, using reasonable force to take her safely into custody?

 

My take, frightened, unprepared, and poorly trained officers overreacted and sent a message to the riotous crowd.  She was not dealt with as an individual, but as a piece of a greeater whole, a mob.  She was an object lesson, not a citizen with civil rights even while engaged in disorderly and unlawful behavior.  If George Floyd's life had value and dignity then so too did hers.

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The Capitol police needed about 100 Gus McCreas.  They would have rode up, roped the worst offenders at the barricade line, and pulled them back until they came to their senses.

 

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4 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said:

And do you suppose this is an apt analogy?

 

Perhaps a more apt analogy would be:  If someone was in the process of breaking into your place of employment on a live newsfed carried by every network, and she had folks behind her acting disorderly would your security force outnumbering her 20 to one have the right to kill the unarmed woman rather than say, using reasonable force to take her safely into custody?

 

My take, frightened, unprepared, and poorly trained officers overreacted and sent a message to the riotous crowd.  She was not dealt with as an individual, but as a piece of a greeater whole, a mob.  She was an object lesson, not a citizen with civil rights even while engaged in disorderly and unlawful behavior.  If George Floyd's life had value and dignity then so too did hers.

You make a much better argument than jon does, I’ll give you that. But I’m still not buying it. At least you admit the crowd was riotous. But I don’t see how the police could have known that they outnumbered the crowd (and I’m not even sure that’s true) or how well armed the crowd was. The police made the decisions I would expect them to make. 
 

Of course Babbit’s life had value and dignity. I would have preferred it if nobody died. 

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9 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

You make a much better argument than jon does, I’ll give you that. But I’m still not buying it. At least you admit the crowd was riotous. But I don’t see how the police could have known that they outnumbered the crowd (and I’m not even sure that’s true) or how well armed the crowd was. The police made the decisions I would expect them to make. 
 

Of course Babbit’s life had value and dignity. I would have preferred it if nobody died. 

I "admit" nothing.  Admitting implies that I tried to obfuscate and eventually had to give up that obfuscation in the face of irrefutable evidence.  I observed, I acknowledged, I forthrightly and accurately portrayed, I did not admit.  Words have meaning.

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46 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

At least you admit the crowd was riotous.

And you applauded the BLM riots? Funded and openly promoted by Democrats?? This is proven you know, right? 

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40 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said:

I "admit" nothing.  Admitting implies that I tried to obfuscate and eventually had to give up that obfuscation in the face of irrefutable evidence.  I observed, I acknowledged, I forthrightly and accurately portrayed, I did not admit.  Words have meaning.

I meant you admit it as compared to OTHER people who tried to obfuscate. 

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When Father Trump ascends to his rightful place, I hope all that took part in the J6 Committee sham are held accountable. 

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6 minutes ago, League Champion said:

And you applauded the BLM riots? Funded and openly promoted by Democrats?? This is proven you know, right? 

1. I did not applaud any riots. And there were no “BLM” riots. BLM wasn’t involved in any rioting. 
2. No it wasn’t. 
3. No it wasn’t. 

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3 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said:

When Father Trump ascends to his rightful place, I hope all that took part in the J6 Committee sham are held accountable. 

This will happen. Trump’s rightful place is in prison and the J6 Committee will be applauded by patriots for having helped put him there. So you will get your wish. 

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13 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I meant you admit it as compared to OTHER people who tried to obfuscate. 

No, I forthrightly acknowledge it.  Perhaps I, or the recorded facts of our interaction,  can get you to admit that I forthrightly acknowledged the matter.  If you did so you could demonstrate you understand the complete connotation of the word "admit".  You used the word recklessly.  Just admit it.  It would be just a small, inconsequential admission and yet you resist it at a fundamental level.  You might learn something about yourself if you asked why the reluctance to admit what is plain to see.

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Just now, The Real timschochet said:

This will happen. Trump’s rightful place is in prison and the J6 Committee will be applauded by patriots for having helped put him there. So you will get your wish. 

Not a single patriot will lift a finger to add Father Trump to the growing collection of Biden Regime political prisoners.  The J6 Committee might have to face the gallows for their deceit.  

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1 minute ago, Engorgeous George said:

No, I forthrightly acknowledge it.  Perhaps I, or the recorded facts of our interaction,  can get you to admit that I forthrightly acknowledged the matter.  If you did so you could demonstrate you understand the complete connotation of the word "admit".  You used the word recklessly.  Just admit it.  It would be just a small, inconsequential admission and yet you resist it at a fundamental level.  You might learn something about yourself if you asked why the reluctance to admit what is plain to see.

You’re still not understanding me. When I wrote “at least you admit” I wasn’t making a comment about you but about the others who won’t admit it. It has nothing to do with any previous comments by you. I got it right the first time. I was actually complimenting you. I stand by it. 

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1 minute ago, Tree of Knowledge said:

Not a single patriot will lift a finger to add Father Trump to the growing collection of Biden Regime political prisoners.  The J6 Committee might have to face the gallows for their deceit.  

The gallows? As in “hangman hangman hold it a little while”? 

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1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

You’re still not understanding me. When I wrote “at least you admit” I wasn’t making a comment about you but about the others who won’t admit it. It has nothing to do with any previous comments by you. I got it right the first time. I was actually complimenting you. I stand by it. 

As expected.

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4 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said:

As expected.

I do very much enjoy reading your posts. 

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6 hours ago, jonmx said:

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Thank you.  No wonder the Democrats wanted to hide these.   Police leading them in. People following orders.  People walking around admiring the building.  Democrats had to work hard to find 10 minutes of violence out of tens of thousands of hours of recordings.   But yet it was supposively Tucker who selectively edited.  Give me a break

 

Curious if in addition to being brainwashed, you also suck at math.

Just how many people do you think were there and how many were violent?

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2 hours ago, League Champion said:

And you applauded the BLM riots? Funded and openly promoted by Democrats?? This is proven you know, right? 

Tim donated to the looters and arsonist 

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6 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Curious if in addition to being brainwashed, you also suck at math.

Just how many people do you think were there and how many were violent?

I was referring to the amount of tape which the brainwashing bastards played on a loop for nearly the last 3 years versus the amount of tape not released which showed no violence you nitwit.  Learn to read.