thegeneral 3,568 Posted March 28, 2024 I’ll use language the MAGA people understand - Nothingburger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,911 Posted March 28, 2024 10 minutes ago, Fnord said: I do. Can you just get to your infantile, unsupported point? Well, you have a problem with convicts testifying. So I guess you’ll be just as dismissive of Cohens testimony in NY, seeing as he is the main witness and the bulk of the case is based on his testimony. Here’s to consistency! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dizkneelande 1,136 Posted May 25, 2024 New reported emails from a 2015-2016 federal investigation show agents were looking into Hunter Biden’s communication with business associate Devon Archer leveraging Joe Biden’s trip to China in 2013. ARCHER: “Did you end up meeting Jonathan (Li)?” HUNTER: “Yes- and they got to meet Dad. All very good. Talk later.” ARCHER: “great! have a good day over there.” HUNTER: “Dinner w/ Xi was pretty amazing. They (Xi and JRB) were supposed to spend 2hrs together. It stretched to 7hrs. I think they are in love with each other. They all most kissed on departure” This is in stark contrast of what Joe Biden said on the campaign trail in 2020. Joe Biden in August 2019: “I have never discussed with my son or my brother or anyone else anything having to do with their business, period.” https://x.com/gopoversight/status/1794023870392832450?s=46&t=Fib7p2nPeGXuJiuDfFsfmA 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,568 Posted October 24 Where my family corruption bros at? “A little-known drone company backed by Donald Trump Jr has won its largest contract from the Pentagon, as the US government expands its procurement of the drones. Florida-based Unusual Machines, in which Trump Jr has held a $4mn stake, said the US army had contracted it to manufacture 3,500 drone motors, alongside various other drone parts. The company added the army indicated it planned to order an additional 20,000 components from Unusual Machines next year. Allan Evans, the company’s chief executive, said he believed it was the largest order for Unusual Machines parts from the US government to date, but declined to disclose the value of the contract.” Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 621 Posted October 24 1 hour ago, thegeneral said: Florida-based Unusual Machines, in which Trump Jr has held a $4mn stake IIRC people were upset about Hunter Biden selling his art for $50,000.00. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,659 Posted October 24 2 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: IIRC people were upset about Hunter Biden selling his art for $50,000.00. IIRC people said there was nothing wrong with the Hunter. Why is it a problem now? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,530 Posted October 24 35 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: IIRC people were upset about Hunter Biden selling his art for $50,000.00. Trump jr is at least selling something useful. And is not a money laundering scheme Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,568 Posted October 24 21 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: Trump jr is at least selling something useful. And is not a money laundering scheme Money laundering scheme Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,568 Posted October 24 53 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: IIRC people said there was nothing wrong with the Hunter. Why is it a problem now? My take on this is these people are going to have opportunities simply because of their name. It’s shitty but it’s reality. It was comical hearing the Trump people get all uppity about Hunter and the “Biden Crime family” when Donald and his little brood of shitheads are making obscene amounts of cash off their names. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,568 Posted October 25 1 hour ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: IIRC people were upset about Hunter Biden selling his art for $50,000.00. Yep. And this venture is small potatoes compared to the Crypto bilking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 621 Posted October 25 52 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: Trump jr is at least selling something useful. And is not a money laundering scheme Just IMO, Junior is worse, he’s making money off of actual government policy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 621 Posted October 25 1 hour ago, TBayXXXVII said: IIRC people said there was nothing wrong with the Hunter. Why is it a problem now? So let’s say this as a principle, it’s not illegal for a president’s child to make money from his association with his father’s influence. And it’s definitely not an impeachable offense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,530 Posted October 25 1 hour ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: Just IMO, Junior is worse, he’s making money off of actual government policy. I have zero problem with your assessment, however after watching congress become millionaires off insider trading, I really don't see where the line is anymore Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,530 Posted October 25 1 hour ago, thegeneral said: Money laundering scheme 10% for the big guy, of course you probably think Hunter was worth 85 k a month in Ukraine Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,406 Posted October 25 4 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: 10% for the big guy, of course you probably think Hunter was worth 85 k a month in Ukraine Liberals a flat out stupid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,568 Posted October 25 14 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: 10% for the big guy, of course you probably think Hunter was worth 85 k a month in Ukraine Right. You know about it but Congress spent years looking at it with all the government investigative bodies at their disposal and couldn’t find it Meanwhile Dipshit Jr is suddenly a drone expert because he’s so smart! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,406 Posted October 25 20 minutes ago, thegeneral said: Right. You know about it but Congress spent years looking at it with all the government investigative bodies at their disposal and couldn’t find it Meanwhile Dipshit Jr is suddenly a drone expert because he’s so smart! Yeah, these people were "looking at it". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,530 Posted October 25 14 minutes ago, thegeneral said: Right. You know about it but Congress spent years looking at it with all the government investigative bodies at their disposal and couldn’t find it Meanwhile Dipshit Jr is suddenly a drone expert because he’s so smart! yah I am sure the company is Jr sitting in there making drones moron Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,568 Posted October 25 10 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: yah I am sure the company is Jr sitting in there making drones moron Of course not, that would be actual work. He doesn’t have to do that he’s the Prez son. He was put on the board 20 days after daddy got elected. They now got their first government contract. What a coincidence! You focking people can’t just admit the most obvious shlt. It pays to be related to the Prez. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,406 Posted October 25 3 minutes ago, thegeneral said: Of course not, that would be actual work. He doesn’t have to do that he’s the Prez son. He was put on it 20 days after daddy got elected. They now got their first government contract. What a coincidence! You focking people can’t just admit the most obvious shlt. It pays to be related to the Prez. I know right? We have to save Guam!! Your people are concerned damnit! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,530 Posted October 25 33 minutes ago, thegeneral said: Of course not, that would be actual work. He doesn’t have to do that he’s the Prez son. He was put on the board 20 days after daddy got elected. They now got their first government contract. What a coincidence! You focking people can’t just admit the most obvious shlt. It pays to be related to the Prez. so what, It pays to be friends with every single politician Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,568 Posted October 25 16 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: so what, It pays to be friends with every single politician Right. Hunter Biden didn’t do anything except win the birth lotto. Eric Jr’ and Trump family are infinitely better at scamming.. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BrahmaBulls 918 Posted October 25 19 minutes ago, thegeneral said: Right. Hunter Biden didn’t do anything except win the birth lotto. Eric Jr’ and Trump family are infinitely better at scamming.. Wat? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,568 Posted October 25 7 minutes ago, BrahmaBulls said: Wat? What don’t you understand. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 2,414 Posted October 25 The Liberal Hero Smoking Crack Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,659 Posted October 25 14 hours ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: So let’s say this as a principle, it’s not illegal for a president’s child to make money from his association with his father’s influence. And it’s definitely not an impeachable offense. This is why I say that people hammering on Trump being corrupt is simply hypocritical. They all do it, none of them should, but we sit around and let them.... then everyone calls out everyone else, when it fits our agenda. How about, we never vote again for people whom we know do this? Or, how about we say that no family member of a politician is allowed to make money... in ANY capacity (involving political ties), while said person is holding office. If you hold a position prior to your family member becoming a politician, then you're ok. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,659 Posted October 25 15 hours ago, thegeneral said: My take on this is these people are going to have opportunities simply because of their name. It’s shitty but it’s reality. It was comical hearing the Trump people get all uppity about Hunter and the “Biden Crime family” when Donald and his little brood of shitheads are making obscene amounts of cash off their names. I find it comical hearing Democrats having a problem here, when the Biden’s were doing the same thing.... as well as every other politician. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,850 Posted October 25 MAGAs who were Very Concerned about foreign kickbacks may want to look into the billions Trumpco has made in bitcoin since taking office. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,568 Posted October 25 14 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: I find it comical hearing Democrats having a problem here, when the Biden’s were doing the same thing.... as well as every other politician. Laughing at how stupid the biden crime family schtick was. Trump family laughs at these ham and eggers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,850 Posted October 25 32 minutes ago, thegeneral said: Laughing at how stupid the biden crime family schtick was. Trump family laughs at these ham and eggers. RLLD was Highly Concerned about the Biden Crime Family taking $ from foreign entities. He’s surprisingly mum on all the $ Trump is openly raking in from Qatar, Saudi Arabia, China etc. It’s almost like Htpocrisy is the brand! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,568 Posted October 25 3 minutes ago, MDC said: RLLD was Highly Concerned about the Biden Crime Family taking $ from foreign entities. He’s surprisingly mum on all the $ Trump is openly raking in from Qatar, Saudi Arabia, China etc. It’s almost like Htpocrisy is the brand! Also very quiet on the whole “they are lying about the economy” schtick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogcows 1,052 Posted October 25 1 hour ago, MDC said: MAGAs who were Very Concerned about foreign kickbacks may want to look into the billions Trumpco has made in bitcoin since taking office. Or the $230 million in taxpayer money his personal attorney is signing over to him. The guy is literally stealing from the treasury in broad daylight, putting it in his own pocket, and publicly acknowledging it too! But nobody in his party and none of his voters give a . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,850 Posted October 25 17 minutes ago, dogcows said: Or the $230 million in taxpayer money his personal attorney is signing over to him. The guy is literally stealing from the treasury in broad daylight, putting it in his own pocket, and publicly acknowledging it too! But nobody in his party and none of his voters give a . Guy with 50-year history of business fraud, infidelity and sexual assault turns out to be a POS. Stunner. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,568 Posted October 25 55 minutes ago, MDC said: Guy with 50-year history of business fraud, infidelity and sexual assault turns out to be a POS. Stunner. His favorite book is the bible, pal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 2,414 Posted October 25 3 hours ago, thegeneral said: Trump family laughs at these ham and eggers. What crimes has Trump committed exactly? I haven't seen any indictments or convictions lately. Care to elaborate? @MDC @thegeneral Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,850 Posted October 25 37 minutes ago, thegeneral said: His favorite book is the bible, pal. Yeah mine too. That or Gravity’s Rainbow. lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,568 Posted October 25 29 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: What crimes has Trump committed exactly? I haven't seen any indictments or convictions lately. Care to elaborate? @MDC @thegeneral Their level of grift makes Hunter Biden look like he’s taking extra pennies out of the little tray at the 7/11 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 621 Posted Sunday at 11:56 PM On 10/25/2025 at 10:15 AM, TBayXXXVII said: This is why I say that people hammering on Trump being corrupt is simply hypocritical. They all do it, none of them should, but we sit around and let them.... then everyone calls out everyone else, when it fits our agenda. How about, we never vote again for people whom we know do this? Or, how about we say that no family member of a politician is allowed to make money... in ANY capacity (involving political ties), while said person is holding office. If you hold a position prior to your family member becoming a politician, then you're ok. There’s actually a law for that, it’s called FARA. i really don’t think everyone does this specific thing. In fact children who’ve been accused of profiting from presidencies is a really short list - Hunter Biden, Ivanka Trump, Jared Kushner, Eric Trump, Donald Junior. That’s it, Thats the list historically, like whole existence of the US. The point of the above is that the magnitude is so incomprehensible now, but I won’t underrate what Hunter Biden did. IMO the biggest item in his favor was that Weiss never indicted him & Bondi hasn’t indicted the companies that hired him to this day. Such situations don’t practically exist - you’re talking about a candidate whose child just happens to be a foreign lobbyist or someone who just gets government contracts? That almost never happens. Junior wasn’t an arms manufacturer before this contract, this caveat you raise doesn’t even apply to him. Actually I think we *had a solution. Campaign finance laws & robust prosecution of public officials who pay to play & outright take graft & bribes. The conservative USSC has knocked back almost all of that. Another tool the FEC has been completely neutralized. I do think the populist call against the ‘swamp’ was effective. People wanted it, but what we have now is a far, deeper, wider, murkier, much more fetid swamp that has no precedent. DC has sunk into the swamp now. It’s swallowed up by it. This is far beyond any historical corruption in scale, and the best comps now are outside US - leaders like Marcos, Putin, Peron, Batista, Amin, Assad, Hussein. I wish I was kidding. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,406 Posted Monday at 12:31 AM 32 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: There’s actually a law for that, it’s called FARA. i really don’t think everyone does this specific thing. In fact children who’ve been accused of profiting from presidencies is a really short list - Hunter Biden, Ivanka Trump, Jared Kushner, Eric Trump, Donald Junior. That’s it, Thats the list historically, like whole existence of the US. The point of the above is that the magnitude is so incomprehensible now, but I won’t underrate what Hunter Biden did. IMO the biggest item in his favor was that Weiss never indicted him & Bondi hasn’t indicted the companies that hired him to this day. Such situations don’t practically exist - you’re talking about a candidate whose child just happens to be a foreign lobbyist or someone who just gets government contracts? That almost never happens. Junior wasn’t an arms manufacturer before this contract, this caveat you raise doesn’t even apply to him. Actually I think we *had a solution. Campaign finance laws & robust prosecution of public officials who pay to play & outright take graft & bribes. The conservative USSC has knocked back almost all of that. Another tool the FEC has been completely neutralized. I do think the populist call against the ‘swamp’ was effective. People wanted it, but what we have now is a far, deeper, wider, murkier, much more fetid swamp that has no precedent. DC has sunk into the swamp now. It’s swallowed up by it. This is far beyond any historical corruption in scale, and the best comps now are outside US - leaders like Marcos, Putin, Peron, Batista, Amin, Assad, Hussein. I wish I was kidding. That's not it. Unless you can only remember the last few years. How about big Mike, Killary, Chelsea, and many more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 621 Posted Tuesday at 08:11 PM Inside the Trump family’s global crypto cash machine >>The U.S. president’s family raked in more than $800 million from sales of crypto assets in the first half of 2025 alone, a Reuters examination found, on top of potentially billions more in unrealized “on paper” gains. Much of that cash has come from foreign sources as Donald Trump's sons have touted their business on an international investor roadshow. DUBAI - Eric Trump was in Dubai on family business. Meeting with a Chinese businessman and his associates on the sidelines of a cryptocurrency conference in May this year, the son of U.S. President Donald J. Trump ran through his usual talking points about the inefficiency of traditional banks and his own famous father’s run-ins with financiers. Then came the pitch. Buy at least $20 million of “governance tokens” in the Trump family’s crypto business, World Liberty Financial, and become part of a venture that Eric Trump predicted would soon embody the future of finance in America, according to a person familiar with the meeting. To some in that small gathering, the technology Eric Trump’s team described for World Liberty seemed “rudimentary,” the person said. At the time, World Liberty was a fledgling business. It hadn’t yet created the cryptocurrency-based finance platform it promised after its September 2024 launch. It still hasn’t. Even so, the pitch apparently worked. On June 26, an obscure entity called Aqua1 Foundation, which said it was based in the United Arab Emirates, announced it was buying $100 million of cryptocurrency tokens from World Liberty. It was the single largest known purchase of the so-called WLFI tokens at the time. The Chinese businessman who met with Eric Trump in Dubai was Guren “Bobby” Zhou, who has executive roles in multiple businesses and who is under investigation in Britain for money laundering, according to that nation’s National Crime Agency and a document filed in an immigration case at London's Royal Courts of Justice. Zhou did not respond directly to requests for comment for this article. In a statement emailed to Reuters, an entity calling itself Aqua Labs Investment LLC said Zhou was its co-founder and described itself as an Abu Dhabi entity of Aqua1 Foundation. The statement said Aqua1 Foundation’s investment in World Liberty tokens “was a commercial decision consistent with its focus on advancing regulated, scalable digital-asset ecosystems.” Zhou’s relationship to Aqua1 Foundation has not been previously reported. Aqua1 Foundation did not respond to requests for comment. Nor did Eric Trump. The Dubai meeting, reported here for the first time, was just one stop on a globetrotting investment roadshow the two elder sons of President Trump – Eric and Donald Trump Jr. – embarked on around the time of their father’s election to a second term. In Europe, the Middle East and Asia, they have been promoting World Liberty and other ventures that funnel investors’ cash to Trump family businesses, known collectively as the Trump Organization. These people are not pouring money into coffers of the Trump family business because of the brothers’ acumen. They are doing it because they want freedom from legal constraints and impunity that only the president can deliver. Kathleen Clark, law professor at Washington University The Trump brothers’ efforts have been a whopping success. In the first half of this year, the Trump Organization’s income soared 17-fold to $864 million from $51 million a year earlier, according to Reuters calculations based on the president’s official disclosures, property records, financial records released in court cases, crypto trade information and other sources. Of the first-half total, $802 million – more than 90% – came from Trump crypto ventures, including sales of World Liberty tokens. That $864 million payday represents actual income – cash flowing, free and clear, into Trump family coffers. Reuters’ calculations were reviewed by half a dozen crypto and real estate experts and a certified accountant who has studied the U.S. Internal Revenue Service’s approach to crypto. The Trumps' first-half crypto income dwarfed what the family earned from its traditional businesses – $33 million from the president’s golf clubs and resorts and $23 million for licensing his name to overseas real estate developers, according to the Reuters estimates. More than half the Trumps’ income – $463 million – came from sales of World Liberty tokens alone, including up to $75 million from Aqua1’s token purchase. On its website, World Liberty says a Trump Organization entity receives 75% of the revenue from the token sales through its association with World Liberty. After pivot to crypto, Trump family’s profits balloon In the early months of the U.S. president’s second term, nearly all of the increase of the Trump Organization’s earnings came from sales of crypto assets. <graphic> The family also made $336 million from sales of a Trump meme coin, $TRUMP, Reuters calculated, using assumptions vetted by five analysts. Due to a lack of transparency in the Trump meme coin business, estimates of income from the coins carry a higher degree of uncertainty than those for WLFI token sales. The Trumps are minting a trove of hard cash from digital assets backed, so far, by little more than the Trump name. World Liberty tokens, like most crypto products, are registered on digital ledgers called blockchains. But WLFI tokens offer holders little beyond a limited say in the business’s plans, unlike governance tokens for similar projects. And meme coins like the $TRUMP coin are essentially collectibles whose value reflects the popularity of the internet joke, meme or personality associated with them. World Liberty Financial did not respond directly to requests for comment for this article. In a letter to Reuters, Timothy Parlatore, a lawyer for the company, said: “WLFI tokens are not securities; they are digital assets with real utility, including governance rights that benefit holders as the platform grows.” He also said: “The Alleged Valuation and Income Analysis of WLFI Is Inaccurate and Misleading.” In a subsequent email, Parlatore declined to provide further specifics on the benefits to holders of World Liberty governance tokens or his critique of the Reuters analysis. The jump in the Trumps’ income represents “a massive pivot” for the family business, said Carter Davis, an assistant professor of finance at The Ohio State University who has studied cryptocurrency pricing and who reviewed the Reuters calculations. “Even if you go through and you do the most conservative estimate…it's pretty wild that you end up with such a huge fraction of the income coming from crypto.” The identities of most buyers of the WLFI tokens are hidden behind opaque “wallet” addresses – the unique identifiers investors use as keys to access and manage their holdings. Among the few major buyers whose identities are known – a mix of foreign and U.S. investors – most have histories of legal and regulatory entanglements related to their business endeavors. And as the Trump brothers’ travels over the past year show, foreign investors have been a major target for token sales. Reuters interviewed half a dozen foreign crypto entrepreneurs who met with the Trump brothers. Five of them said they sought out the younger Trumps for business opportunities because of their proximity to the 79-year-old president and hopes of cashing in on his political and financial power. For many other investors, the Trumps' involvement signaled a chance to capitalize on the family’s name. Dorji Rabten’s Seoul-based venture investment firm, Oddiyana Ventures, bought an undisclosed amount of WLFI tokens in January. Rabten said he never met the Trump sons, but the family's involvement was central to his investment. "In the first very moment where we saw the project, we thought it's going to be very huge, obviously, given the fact it's a president's sons taking up that project," Rabten told Reuters in September.… Share this post Link to post Share on other sites