Biden should deal with the border issue, but he’ll win anyhow.

[MLCKAA 545]

2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I want open controlled immigration. If it’s out of control, I can live with that so long as the numbers aren’t too large, right now they are. 

Does this mean that you want people to be able to immigrate here without any restrictions on qualifying, but you want them to wait their turn?

[Strike 5,195]

5 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I want open controlled immigration. If it’s out of control, I can live with that so long as the numbers aren’t too large, right now they are. 

You're full of it.  You've been advocating for wide open borders as long as I've been interacting with you which has to be close to ten years.  GTFO of here with your controlled immigration crap.  You are only taking this stance because it's politically expedient to do so.

[League Champion 1,896]

1 minute ago, Strike said:

You're full of it.  You've been advocating for wide open borders as long as I've been interacting with you 

He's a troll. This whole thread is a troll, he's an a-hole. He loves this crap, he voted for open borders and he got it. 

[The Real timschochet 6,430]

1 minute ago, MLCKAA said:

Does this mean that you want people to be able to immigrate here without any restrictions on qualifying, but you want them to wait their turn?

Yes and no. 
I want what we had in the early 20th century except equal opportunity for all countries. If we have that then they can wait their turn- but right now there are certain countries where there is no turn. For example if you’re a poor person in Latin America, there is no line to get into, no turn for them. 
It should be orderly and people with diseases or criminal records should be kept out. Those already here that came illegally should be allowed to stay if they pay a fine for their crime, but they should never be citizens and never allowed to vote. I also don’t mind securing the border so long as it doesn’t slow down legal trade. Finally we need to either do away with minimum wage or create a sub minimum wage for those who clean up, work agriculture, buss restaurants, etc. if we don’t do that we will always have an illegal problem. 
 

I could go on in detail but those are my thoughts in a nutshell. Though I don’t mind calling myself a liberal I’m much more libertarian on this issue than leftist I believe. 

[The Real timschochet 6,430]

5 minutes ago, Strike said:

You're full of it.  You've been advocating for wide open borders as long as I've been interacting with you which has to be close to ten years.  GTFO of here with your controlled immigration crap.  You are only taking this stance because it's politically expedient to do so.

Nope. I’ve always been for controlled, regulated open immigration ala Ellis Island. Always. 

[The Real timschochet 6,430]

3 minutes ago, League Champion said:

He's a troll. This whole thread is a troll, he's an a-hole. He loves this crap, he voted for open borders and he got it. 

I’ve never voted for open borders because nobody has ever campaigned for open borders. I’ve never voted for open immigration because nobody has ever campaigned for that either (but I would.) In my first election ever I voted proudly for Ronald Reagan in part because he advocated for more open immigration and I’d do so again, eagerly. 

[League Champion 1,896]

Just now, The Real timschochet said:

voted for open borders

Elect a clown and expect a circus. 

You knew damn well that open borders was one of his biggest platforms. All he talked about was reversing Trump immigration policies. 

[The Real timschochet 6,430]

Just now, League Champion said:

Elect a clown and expect a circus. 

You knew damn well that open borders was one of his biggest platforms. All he talked about was reversing Trump immigration policies. 

And I’m glad he did. I don’t believe that reversing those policies had anything to do with increasing illegal immigration, and returning to those policies would do little to stop illegal immigration. The problem lies elsewhere. 

[League Champion 1,896]

1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

The problem lies elsewhere. 

Where exactly? And what is The Old Man doing to fix it? He's had how many years to do so? 

[Baker Boy 1,688]

1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

You’re so full of sh!t. It’s not a game and has never been a game to me. I firmly believe that more open immigration is what’s best for this country. But we’re facing an emergency. 

Why, name, one country in the history of the world that has been successful with open borders. There have been 1.6 million gotaways since Joe Biden took office, why is this good for our country.

[Nomad99 699]

2 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

I didn’t miscalculate it. I expressed my beliefs about what America should be about and I continue to hold those beliefs. But we’ve reached crisis mode so now we have to act in an emergency in ways that we didn’t have to act before. 

It was ALWAYS going to be a crisis the way it was handled......but like every other liberal plan or decision, there was no long term vision. EVERYONE knew it was going to go bad but the lemmings ran towards the cliff anyways. THE WARNINGS WERE THERE ALL ALONG. When the hogs know that there's free corn in the field.....the entire herd comes running. It shouldn't have taken this long for you to see it, but I'm glad you now do. I hope it opens your eyes to other policy initiated tidal waves like crime & homeless people in liberal cities. That's the next crisis. I'm not against helping people or giving people a chance at a better life.......you just can't turn the spigot on wide open & walk away. 

[The Real timschochet 6,430]

7 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

Why, name, one country in the history of the world that has been successful with open borders. There have been 1.6 million gotaways since Joe Biden took office, why is this good for our country.

Please understand that open immigration is not the same as open borders. What countries in the history of the world have benefited from open immigration? Israel. Australia. The Kingdom of Hawaii. And most of all, the USA. 

[The Real timschochet 6,430]

9 minutes ago, League Champion said:

Where exactly? And what is The Old Man doing to fix it? He's had how many years to do so? 

Biden has done little to fix our problems on this issue. We’ll see what he does now. 
 

I can’t ever support Trump’s “solutions”; I regard them as inhumane. 
 

To your first question: the problems lie not principally with our policies, but with the conditions in the countries these people are fleeing from. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,940]

23 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I’ve never voted for open borders because nobody has ever campaigned for open borders. I’ve never voted for open immigration because nobody has ever campaigned for that either (but I would.) In my first election ever I voted proudly for Ronald Reagan in part because he advocated for more open immigration and I’d do so again, eagerly. 

Biden didn’t campaign for open borders. “We need a constant, unrelenting stream of immigration”. His exact  words.  You’re a clown. 

[League Champion 1,896]

7 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

We’ll see what he does now. 

What the hell has he been waiting for??? You think this just happened yesterday? He's a useless piece of garbage. He doesn't even know where he is half the time. You expect him to snap his fingers and fix what he created?

Again, you voted for it. 

[Baker Boy 1,688]

45 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Please understand that open immigration is not the same as open borders. What countries in the history of the world have benefited from open immigration? Israel. Australia. The Kingdom of Hawaii. And most of all, the USA. 

I said open borders, not open migration. You are pathetic 

right now we have an open border 1.6 million getaways is proof.

what is open migration?

[The Psychic Observer 496]

26 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Biden didn’t campaign for open borders. “We need a constant, unrelenting stream of immigration”. His exact  words.  You’re a clown. 

Biden never said that.  You watch too much Tucker Carlson, chump.  Sad.

[Baker Boy 1,688]

7 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said:

Biden never said that.  You watch too much Tucker Carlson, chump.  Sad.

Biden: We need ‘constant, unrelenting stream’ of immigrants
 

https://thehill.com/regulation/business/208857-biden-hails-constant-unrelenting-stream-of-immigrants/

 

 

[Strike 5,195]

1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

Nope. I’ve always been for controlled, regulated open immigration ala Ellis Island. Always. 

Now you're flat out lying.  At least own up to your positions.  Pathetic.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,940]

16 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said:

Biden never said that.  You watch too much Tucker Carlson, chump.  Sad.

Would you like to place a bet? Nah. You’re just a fat mouthed beta cuck. Shut it. 

[Baker Boy 1,688]

1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

Nope. I’ve always been for controlled, regulated open immigration ala Ellis Island. Always. 

Nobody is against that type of immigration but that is not what we have today. Comparing our borders to Ellis Island shows your complete lack of knowledge on the subject. Ellis Island is not an example of open immigration. It’s not even close.

[Cdub100 3,838]

He doesn't need to do anything. Orange man bad.

[supermike80 1,804]

30 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Would you like to place a bet? Nah. You’re just a fat mouthed beta cuck. Shut it. 

IT.WAS.NOT.ON.CNN

So Tim missed it.

[The Psychic Observer 496]

43 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Would you like to place a bet? Nah. You’re just a fat mouthed beta cuck. Shut it. 

Sure.  Show me the video where his exact words are  “We need a constant, unrelenting stream of immigration”.

[Cdub100 3,838]

7 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said:

Sure.  Show me the video where his exact words are  “We need a constant, unrelenting stream of immigration”.

 Hur-durrr he didn't say those words exactly like it's written out so he didn't say it. 

The perfect democrat voter right here. HEre' is what he said, “It started all the way back in the late 1700s. There’s been a constant, unrelenting stream of immigration. Not in little trickles, but in large numbers.”

https://sports.yahoo.com/news/biden-wave-immigration-not-going-stop-video-135620136.html

[The Real timschochet 6,430]

26 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

IT.WAS.NOT.ON.CNN

So Tim missed it.

I love that you always think it’s some kind of insult that I watch CNN. What it actually means is that I’m better informed than you. 

[The Psychic Observer 496]

11 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

 Hur-durrr he didn't say those words exactly like it's written out so he didn't say it. 

The perfect democrat voter right here. HEre' is what he said, “It started all the way back in the late 1700s. There’s been a constant, unrelenting stream of immigration. Not in little trickles, but in large numbers.”

https://sports.yahoo.com/news/biden-wave-immigration-not-going-stop-video-135620136.html

Thank you for admitting he didn't say it.

1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

“We need a constant, unrelenting stream of immigration”. His exact  words.

Not his exact words.

https://www.mediamatters.org/tucker-carlson/how-tucker-carlson-lied-about-video-joe-biden-push-white-nationalist-great

[The Psychic Observer 496]

1 hour ago, Baker Boy said:

Biden: We need ‘constant, unrelenting stream’ of immigrants
 

https://thehill.com/regulation/business/208857-biden-hails-constant-unrelenting-stream-of-immigrants/

 

 

I love how "We Need" is excluded from your quote, thus proving my point.

You got played my friend.

[The Real timschochet 6,430]

3 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said:

I love how "We Need" is excluded from your quote, thus proving my point.

You got played my friend.

I wish he had said it we need it. I would like him better. It’s generally a true statement and pretty close to what Ronald Reagan used to say. 

[The Psychic Observer 496]

1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Would you like to place a bet? Nah. You’re just a fat mouthed beta cuck. Shut it. 

[Baker Boy 1,688]

33 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said:

I love how "We Need" is excluded from your quote, thus proving my point.

You got played my friend.

What quote, all I did was post an article on the subject. You just got played by yourself.

to a hammer everything is a nail.

[The Psychic Observer 496]

1 minute ago, Baker Boy said:

What quote, all I did was post an article on the subject. You just got played by yourself.

to a hammer everything is a nail.

You might want to start reading what you post.  It will avoid you future embarrassment my friend.

[Baker Boy 1,688]

1 minute ago, The Psychic Observer said:

You might want to start reading what you post.  It will avoid you future embarrassment my friend.

Why don’t you show me, l can’t find it and I don’t remember what you’re talking about.

[The Psychic Observer 496]

2 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

Why don’t you show me, l can’t find it and I don’t remember what you’re talking about.

Do you have actual brain damage?

 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,940]

He clearly says we need it for economic purposes, now.  Fockin liberals will lie when it’s right in black and white. 

[Baker Boy 1,688]

8 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said:

Do you have actual brain damage?

 

Thanks for proving my point.  You just played yourself again.

16 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

What quote, all I did was post an article on the subject. You just got played by yourself.

to a hammer everything is a 

[The Psychic Observer 496]

 

2 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

“We need a constant, unrelenting stream of immigration”. His exact  words. 

 

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

 Fockin liberals will lie when it’s right in black and white. 

 

Who lies?

 

[Baker Boy 1,688]

4 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said:

 

 

 

Who lies?

 

So you finally figured it out. You getting played by yourself twice on the same page is hilarious.

[BunnysBastatrds 2,315]

 They, the dems, got exactly what they wanted in all of this, more illegals and future generations of voters. They knew at some point they were going to turn off the spigots. Now it’s election time and they are now coming to the rescue to save all of us. 

[The Psychic Observer 496]

5 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

So you finally figured it out. You getting played by yourself twice on the same page is hilarious.

Stay down