This economy is so bad

[Baker Boy 1,687]

On 8/26/2024 at 10:36 PM, IndyColtsFan said:

OK, so what vaccinations were you ordered to take during your service? Where were you deployed?

It seems like a lot of board members don’t know the difference between a shot and a vaccine.

[IndyColtsFan 325]

1 hour ago, Baker Boy said:

It seems like a lot of board members don’t know the difference between a shot and a vaccine.

He never answered my question because he knows I've got him in a corner.

He was whining about the soldiers who got kicked out when they refused a vaccination.

I know for a fact that he would have been required to take vaccinations, particularly if he were deployed overseas.

By the way, the market is hitting record highs again.

But muh economy!

[zsasz 361]

On 9/6/2024 at 8:02 AM, Sean Mooney said:

I'm sure Trump will get around to talking about how he is going to fix it.

You know once the mosquitos leave him alone

He's starting to formulate the ooncepts of his plan....but he can't tell us about the plan.  He's like Will Arnett in The Office...

 

https://www.tiktok.com/@binge/video/7299754503052594440

[Hardcore troubadour 14,923]

2 hours ago, IndyColtsFan said:

He never answered my question because he knows I've got him in a corner.

He was whining about the soldiers who got kicked out when they refused a vaccination.

I know for a fact that he would have been required to take vaccinations, particularly if he were deployed overseas.

By the way, the market is hitting record highs again.

But muh economy!

Ok dumb dumb.  Before you enlist you are informed about what vaccinations are required. Not everyone can take all of them. So if you don’t want to take them, you don’t join.  This was thrust upon people after the fact. Get it now? Like I said , you’re clueless.  Now get your shine box. 

[purdygood 333]

5 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Ok dumb dumb.  Before you enlist you are informed about what vaccinations are required. Not everyone can take all of them. So if you don’t want to take them, you don’t join.  This was thrust upon people after the fact. Get it now? Like I said , you’re clueless.  Now get your shine box. 

If the military is forcing you to take Vaccines you dont want. Just claim you have Bone Spurs.  Problem solved!

[Baker Boy 1,687]

4 hours ago, IndyColtsFan said:

He never answered my question because he knows I've got him in a corner.

He was whining about the soldiers who got kicked out when they refused a vaccination.

I know for a fact that he would have been required to take vaccinations, particularly if he were deployed overseas.

By the way, the market is hitting record highs again.

But muh economy!

So you really don’t know the difference between a shot and a vaccine?
 

The money you’ve been making and all the money in your portfolio are worth 25% less than they were in 2020. If you look at the bottom line, I did better under Trump than I am doing under Biden. The Biden administration cut the buying power of my portfolio bio for 25%.

if you really are in the market, you would understand this.

[Baker Boy 1,687]

https://www.foxnews.com/food-drink/tupperware-party-is-over-banktruptcy-seals-lid-era-american-consumer-culture
 

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Months after Tupperware Brands Corp. shuttered its last remaining plant in the United States amid financial woes, the company announced on Tuesday that it had filed for bankruptcy. 

 

[IndyColtsFan 325]

35 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

So you really don’t know the difference between a shot and a vaccine?
 

The money you’ve been making and all the money in your portfolio are worth 25% less than they were in 2020. If you look at the bottom line, I did better under Trump than I am doing under Biden. The Biden administration cut the buying power of my portfolio bio for 25%.

if you really are in the market, you would understand this.

Why are you asking me this?

All vaccines are "shots," which is a way to inject liquid into the body with a syringe.

Vaccines can be administered via syringe, liquid, pill or nasal spray.

 

[IndyColtsFan 325]

2 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Ok dumb dumb.  Before you enlist you are informed about what vaccinations are required. Not everyone can take all of them. So if you don’t want to take them, you don’t join.  This was thrust upon people after the fact. Get it now? Like I said , you’re clueless.  Now get your shine box. 

Once again, as usual, you're wrong. There was a whole list of previously unadministered vaccines that soldiers sent to Iraq were ordered to take. If you want to borrow my shine box while you polish my shoes, I'll be happy to go get it.

[Baker Boy 1,687]

On 9/20/2024 at 2:01 PM, IndyColtsFan said:

Once again, as usual, you're wrong. There was a whole list of previously unadministered vaccines that soldiers sent to Iraq were ordered to take. If you want to borrow my shine box while you polish my shoes, I'll be happy to go get it.

Could you provide that list of vaccines?

[Baker Boy 1,687]

https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/last-full-size-kmart-us-close
 

Last full-size Kmart in US to close

Store that is closing in Bridgehampton, New York, leaves just a Florida location remaining

[Hardcore troubadour 14,923]

On 9/20/2024 at 5:01 PM, IndyColtsFan said:

Once again, as usual, you're wrong. There was a whole list of previously unadministered vaccines that soldiers sent to Iraq were ordered to take. If you want to borrow my shine box while you polish my shoes, I'll be happy to go get it.

Sigh. Just because they are aren’t administered that doesn’t mean that you aren’t made aware that you may have to take them or other medications prior to deploying to different parts of the world. They don’t give you malaria pills unless you’re going to a high malaria area. Same thing with certain vaccines. You’re clueless Rusty. Stay down. 

[Engorgeous George 2,124]

I have more money now than when I retired 18 months ago though I have been living on retirement savings.  I even have slightly more buying power when adjusted for inflation, though not a tremendous amount.  The economy has not hurt me, though i do admit to some real sticker shock at the grocery and when my insurance payments arrive.

[purdygood 333]

9 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said:

I have more money now than when I retired 18 months ago though I have been living on retirement savings.  I even have slightly more buying power when adjusted for inflation, though not a tremendous amount.  The economy has not hurt me, though i do admit to some real sticker shock at the grocery and when my insurance payments arrive.

Fair.  But is it the future President's policies that will fix that, or are corporations price gouging and the only solution is we need to all collectively stop buying overpriced things ? (and living off of the credit card, just like the Government)

[Horseman 2,353]

36 minutes ago, purdygood said:

Fair.  But is it the future President's policies that will fix that, or are corporations price gouging and the only solution is we need to all collectively stop buying overpriced things ? (and living off of the credit card, just like the Government)

Stop buying groceries and insurance.  I wonder why nobody thought of that before.  

[purdygood 333]

3 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Stop buying groceries and insurance.  I wonder why nobody thought of that before.  

Or shop for cheaper. It just takes a few car rides or calls.  Or, I dunno, educate yourself and get a better job. Or grow a pair of balls and ask for a raise.

[easilyscan 858]

https://babylonbee.com/news/we-cant-afford-another-four-years-of-this-shouts-running-mate-of-candidate-who-has-been-leading-country-for-four-years

[Engorgeous George 2,124]

47 minutes ago, purdygood said:

Fair.  But is it the future President's policies that will fix that, or are corporations price gouging and the only solution is we need to all collectively stop buying overpriced things ? (and living off of the credit card, just like the Government)

I have adjusted my shopping habits and have re-evaluated my insurance.  Very difficult to become self-insured but i re-evaluated some risks now that i am no longer employed.  eventually i m,ay decide to reduce the number of vehicles I insure.  Now that I am retired it my be that my wife and I don't need as many vehicles.  I don't believe grocers are price gouging.  I do believe insurers use mandatory insurance requirements to cover their bad investments, but there it is.  Insurers will always make money in everything but the very short term. 

[purdygood 333]

Just now, Engorgeous George said:

I have adjusted my shopping habits and have re-evaluated my insurance.  Very difficult to become self-insured but i re-evaluated some risks now that i am no longer employed.  eventually i m,ay decide to reduce the number of vehicles I insure.  Now that I am retired it my be that my wife and I don't need as many vehicles.  I don't believe grocers are price gouging.  I do believe insurers use mandatory insurance requirements to cover their bad investments, but there it is.  Insurers will always make money in everything but the very short term. 

I agree with a lot of this.   I've never been a person who owned "multiple cars".  Grocer's are likely trying their best.  I do think Insurance is gouging because when you need to make a claim they will find EVERY reason possible not to pay it.

[Horseman 2,353]

6 minutes ago, purdygood said:

Or shop for cheaper. It just takes a few car rides or calls.  Or, I dunno, educate yourself and get a better job. Or grow a pair of balls and ask for a raise.

Bootstraps!

lol

[Engorgeous George 2,124]

1 hour ago, purdygood said:

I agree with a lot of this.   I've never been a person who owned "multiple cars".  Grocer's are likely trying their best.  I do think Insurance is gouging because when you need to make a claim they will find EVERY reason possible not to pay it.

My wife has her car.  I have a commuting car which gets great gas mileage and a truck which I use to go camping, hunting, fishing, and rafting in.  I also insure the car of my youngest daughter.  Likely I will sell the commuter and in a year or so ease my youngest off of my insurance as I did with her siblings previously.  Probably when the rates on young drivers drop at around 25 or 26 years of age.  

[Horseman 2,353]

Never owned multiple cars guy is giving out financial advice.  

[purdygood 333]

Just now, Horseman said:

Never owned multiple cars guy is giving out financial advice.  

The best financial advice i could give is "don't own multiple cars".  You can't drive two at once.  Let me go buy a bunch of assets that ONLY depreciate.  Cool.

[RLLD 4,143]

4 hours ago, purdygood said:

Fair.  But is it the future President's policies that will fix that, or are corporations price gouging and the only solution is we need to all collectively stop buying overpriced things ? (and living off of the credit card, just like the Government)

The damage is done, all those infusions of cash by the Biden admin into what was already an inflationary period have created a problem that will take at least a decade to wring out of the economy.

There is actually not much government can do, other than make it worse.   If we can dodge the bullet that is Democrats, we can at least heal a little faster since moronic policy wont be put in place.

The market is not greedy when government policy foments inflation nor is the market being kind when government policy limits inflation....its simple reacting to stimuli

[Strike 5,185]

3 hours ago, purdygood said:

The best financial advice i could give is "don't own multiple cars".  You can't drive two at once.  Let me go buy a bunch of assets that ONLY depreciate.  Cool.

For some of us our multiple cars are toys.  They're paid off so the only real expense is insurance.  Why shouldn't I have toys?  As far as the best financial advice, I'd.put invest in a 401k, don't just put your savings in a shoe box under your bed, don't run up your credit cards, and a lot of other things before don't have multiple vehicles.  I hope you don't make a living in the financial services industry.

[Baker Boy 1,687]

On 9/23/2024 at 10:08 AM, Engorgeous George said:

I have more money now than when I retired 18 months ago though I have been living on retirement savings.  I even have slightly more buying power when adjusted for inflation, though not a tremendous amount.  The economy has not hurt me, though i do admit to some real sticker shock at the grocery and when my insurance payments arrive.

It appears that you have set the bar pretty low.

[Baker Boy 1,687]

On 9/20/2024 at 2:01 PM, IndyColtsFan said:

Once again, as usual, you're wrong. There was a whole list of previously unadministered vaccines that soldiers sent to Iraq were ordered to take. If you want to borrow my shine box while you polish my shoes, I'll be happy to go get it.

 

On 9/23/2024 at 9:55 AM, Baker Boy said:

Could you provide that list of vaccines?

Can you?

[Sean Mooney 1,937]

So Kamala gave her response on lowering prices and it was ....let's say....not reassuring. Luckily we have two candidates- so what does the other guy have to say?

From the syndicated program Full Measure:

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Sharyl Attkisson: "Kamala Harris has been very short on specifics when it comes to economy other than saying she wants an opportunity economy. What are the specific mechanics of how prices come down? You know, the steps that would be taken in a second term for you?”

Donald Trump: "“So first of all, she can’t do an interview. She could never do this interview because you ask questions like give me a specific answer. She talks about her lawn when she was growing up. This woman is not equipped to be president. 

She’s not equipped to deal with President Xi – I took in hundreds of billions of dollars with him. And Putin, we had no war with Putin. Remember, and I’m just going to go off just for this. With Bush, they took a lot. Russia. With Biden, they’re trying to take everything. With Obama, they took a lot. With Trump, Russia took nothing. Just remember that. It’s a little, a little chart. But what happened, and when you look at what took place, was so sad.

When they took over, they cut the oil way down, and oil started going through the roof. It was going to go to $10 a gallon. It was going to go to numbers that nobody has ever seen. And so they went back to the Trump drilling. They said, let it go back. That was the only good thing. But they stopped, because I would be there, but four years later, I would be triple what the number was. Right now, they’re just about even where I was. But they only did that because of the fact that they eventually have an election coming up. And you remember at the beginning what happened? That’s one of the reasons that Putin went in, because it went to $100 a barrel instead of $40 a barrel. And he could fight all the wars he wants with those kind of numbers, because he’s a big seller of oil and gas.

So what happens is they went back to what I was doing, just to reopen. Just reopen. It wasn’t hard. It’s so crazy what they want to do. They’re going to destroy lives. They’re going to destroy – what they have done to this country, and especially in the sense of allowing millions and millions of people come in, because that’s something. You know, we can fix the gasoline situation, and we can fix the – anything."

Sharyl Attkisson: “Do prices come down magically, because it’s not them?”

Donald Trump: "“They come down with energy, and they come down with interest rates. We’re going to get, as I told you, we’re going to get energy down by 50% in 12 months. We’re going to have it. It’s going to be a major smash on energy. If you look at the energy for and I’m not just talking about cars, I’m talking about air conditioning, heating, your basic energy operating a bakery, operating any kind of a business, it’s all having to do with energy. 

That was where they started wrong when they cut way back on what I did and again, just so you understand, they then let it go back to where it was, which he was a very smart thing. Otherwise you would have had, I think you would had a depression, if you want to know the truth. But energy was rising at a level that nobody had ever seen, and then they said, go back, go back.

They would tell people, go back to your wells. Go back to drilling, go back to fracking, do whatever you have to do. But if they win the day after, they’re going all the way. They were only doing that because of an election coming up. They’re going all the way. It’s madness, and what they’ve done to our country is mad."

 

Oh good so we either pick one person who doesn't know how to deal with it, or the other person who....doesn't know how to deal with it. 

We might be screwed

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,236]

1 minute ago, Sean Mooney said:

So Kamala gave her response on lowering prices and it was ....let's say....not reassuring. Luckily we have two candidates- so what does the other guy have to say?

From the syndicated program Full Measure:

Oh good so we either pick one person who doesn't know how to deal with it, or the other person who....doesn't know how to deal with it. 

We might be screwed

I’ll take the guy that had the country financially better 

[Sean Mooney 1,937]

11 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

I’ll take the guy that had the country financially better 

Really thinking he's going to cut energy costs by 50% in 12 months? Also, Trump talked about oil production. Oil production is way up under Biden

Average annual economy growth rate under Trump- 2.3%...under Biden 2.2%

Inflation is at 3% under Biden (it got as high as 9.1% in 2022)...we know why this is though (tariffs, COVID, stimulus packages, supply chain disruptions) despite what RLLD wants to posit

Jobs under Trump added 6.7 million in his term. Biden has added about 16 million....again (we know some of the issues that affected that and jobs probably would've come back under Trump but economists do argue that the American Rescue Plan passed in 2021 helped speed up things)

The unemployment rate under Trump was at 3.5%. Biden got it down to 3.4% after COVID. It is right now 4.2%.

Wages rose under Trump at the same rate they did under Obama. Wages have grown under Biden as well but the inflation factor is wiping those gains out for the most part.

Stock market is way up under Biden.

 

It isn't a slam dunk one way or the other. Taking those 6 categories it is either 4-2 in favor of Trump or 3-3 in favor of the tie. 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,236]

16 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Really thinking he's going to cut energy costs by 50% in 12 months? Also, Trump talked about oil production. Oil production is way up under Biden

Average annual economy growth rate under Trump- 2.3%...under Biden 2.2%

Inflation is at 3% under Biden (it got as high as 9.1% in 2022)...we know why this is though (tariffs, COVID, stimulus packages, supply chain disruptions) despite what RLLD wants to posit

Jobs under Trump added 6.7 million in his term. Biden has added about 16 million....again (we know some of the issues that affected that and jobs probably would've come back under Trump but economists do argue that the American Rescue Plan passed in 2021 helped speed up things)

The unemployment rate under Trump was at 3.5%. Biden got it down to 3.4% after COVID. It is right now 4.2%.

Wages rose under Trump at the same rate they did under Obama. Wages have grown under Biden as well but the inflation factor is wiping those gains out for the most part.

Stock market is way up under Biden.

 

It isn't a slam dunk one way or the other. Taking those 6 categories it is either 4-2 in favor of Trump or 3-3 in favor of the tie. 

wages growing at stupid rates have focked california

20$ an hour to work at macdonnells

 

I dont care what economists say, they are all partisan hacks one way or another

life was easier for most from 2017-2019

[Sean Mooney 1,937]

2 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

wages growing at stupid rates have focked california

20$ an hour to work at macdonnells

 

I dont care what economists say, they are all partisan hacks one way or another

life was easier for most from 2017-2019

None of that provides any counter argument

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,236]

Just now, Sean Mooney said:

None of that provides any counter argument

what it proves is that the adminstration in charge now isn't helping the middle class, so I would give the guy who had the middle class doing better a shot again

 

factor in that and illegals, its an easy choice, the current admin loves giving free sh1t to illegals

[RLLD 4,143]

20 hours ago, Strike said:

For some of us our multiple cars are toys.  They're paid off so the only real expense is insurance.  Why shouldn't I have toys?  As far as the best financial advice, I'd.put invest in a 401k, don't just put your savings in a shoe box under your bed, don't run up your credit cards, and a lot of other things before don't have multiple vehicles.  I hope you don't make a living in the financial services industry.

If you have more than your neighbor you are evil.

From each according to their ability to each according to their need.

The marixists are here, and they mean business, all that death we can see from the last 100 years from this ideology is coming here.

[Engorgeous George 2,124]

1 hour ago, Baker Boy said:

It appears that you have set the bar pretty low.

I submit setting the bar low is prudent in retirement planning.  Prepare for the worst and you will not end up unpleasantly surprised.  If the worst does not come to be, so much the better for me, and for my progeny who will take the remainder at the end of my wife and I's lives.

[purdygood 333]

8 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

wages growing at stupid rates have focked california

20$ an hour to work at macdonnells

 

I dont care what economists say, they are all partisan hacks one way or another

life was easier for most from 2017-2019

Maybe the "most" have made really poor life decisions since 2019 and need to find their boot straps.

[Engorgeous George 2,124]

9 minutes ago, RLLD said:

If you have more than your neighbor you are evil.

From each according to their ability to each according to their need.

The marixists are here, and they mean business, all that death we can see from the last 100 years from this ideology is coming here.

The really sweet part of being part of the communist party leadership is that there is no delineation between need and want.  Politicians decide what plebs need and they decide what they, the politicians want.

[HotRod 69]

34 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

life was easier for most from 2017-2019

It really does come down to this.  Life was better 2017-2019, so I'll take the guy in charge during that time again.  Nothing else matters.

[purdygood 333]

3 minutes ago, HotRod said:

It really does come down to this.  Life was better 2017-2019, so I'll take the guy in charge during that time again.  Nothing else matters.

My life is better now than those years.  Sooooooo, that's just like, your opinion man.

[Strike 5,185]

12 minutes ago, purdygood said:

My life is better now than those years.  Sooooooo, that's just like, your opinion man.

Doubtful.