This economy is so bad

[edjr 5,567]

1 hour ago, Dizkneelande said:

- Biden Floats Price Controls
- Record 401k Hardship Withdrawals
- Inflation Rises Fifth Month in a Row
- Biden Budget Jumps by $1.2 trillion
- America's Farms are Getting Wiped Out

If I claim hardship, can I withdraw my 401k without penalty and bet it all on red?

[BeachGuy23 512]

1 hour ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Stop! The economy blows right now. There's no way around it, look around. 

Name the metric by which the economy blows boyo.

I'll name 3 for everyone 1 you do that says the opposite.

[Dizkneelande 839]

4 hours ago, edjr said:

If I claim hardship, can I withdraw my 401k without penalty and bet it all on red?

Personally, that should be totally allowed 

[seafoam1 1,879]

6 hours ago, Dizkneelande said:

- Biden Floats Price Controls
- Record 401k Hardship Withdrawals
- Inflation Rises Fifth Month in a Row
- Biden Budget Jumps by $1.2 trillion
- America's Farms are Getting Wiped Out

 

4 hours ago, BeachGuy23 said:

Name the metric by which the economy blows boyo.

I'll name 3 for everyone 1 you do that says the opposite.

[Hardcore troubadour 12,653]

On 12/30/2023 at 3:47 PM, Ron_Artest said:

NOT!

Don't believe what Clownzo tells you.

 

How’s that gas below 3 dollars a gallon going? 

[Sean Mooney 1,184]

Imagine how sad you must be to dig up a post from 3 months ago to play gotcha on 1 thing out of 9.

 

It's like the person who predicts 10 March madness upsets and nails one and then brags about that forever. 

[Maximum Overkill 645]

On 3/18/2024 at 10:17 AM, BeachGuy23 said:

Name the metric by which the economy blows boyo.

I'll name 3 for everyone 1 you do that says the opposite.

Uhhhhh, families can afford groceries

Single Moms can't pay their rent

I know you do very well for yourself BOYO, but do you have any connection to the real world? It's an absolute disaster right now. The normal person can't afford to live. That's just fact right now. 

Put your political BS aside, I don't give a F who's fault it is, it's a problem. Just admit it. 

To say things are good right now is about as disinterested as anything I've ever heard in here. 

[Maximum Overkill 645]

 

[BeachGuy23 512]

2 hours ago, Maximum Overkill said:

 

May as well advertise you're a low IQ, no class cultist.

Refined boyos like me see that sign, laugh at those below us, and move on down to the next station.

[Maximum Overkill 645]

18 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said:

May as well advertise you're a low IQ, no class cultist.

Refined boyos like me see that sign, laugh at those below us, and move on down to the next station.

You never answered my question BOYO 

[BeachGuy23 512]

2 hours ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Uhhhhh, families can afford groceries

Single Moms can't pay their rent

I know you do very well for yourself BOYO, but do you have any connection to the real world? It's an absolute disaster right now. The normal person can't afford to live. That's just fact right now. 

Put your political BS aside, I don't give a F who's fault it is, it's a problem. Just admit it. 

To say things are good right now is about as disinterested as anything I've ever heard in here. 

You're wrong.

Real wages are now up.  Prices for everything except for housing have come way down, wages, particularly at the lower end of the scale, are up bigly.

If things are so bad, please explain why every restaurant is a madhouse, malls packed, airports packed, consumer spending at all time highs.

Just lol at people can't afford to live...SMH

People bit@h and complain about prices but never take into account how their wages have increased at the same time.

[Maximum Overkill 645]

Just now, BeachGuy23 said:

Real wages are now up. 

Except they're not. Do you talk to anyone? 

BOYO, I'm out there, I have businesses and business partners, I'm in the trenches. 

Do you know that Builders and GCs are hiring illegal Immigrants because they come cheap? And do you know that it forces LEGAL contractors to lower their rates, thus lowering salaries and cutting employee benefits. 

It's happening EVERYWHERE!!! 

But you're not out there, your behind a desk slinging papers, reading CNN articles. 

[RLLD 3,455]

Home prices rose 2.4 times faster than inflation since 1960s

Surging gas prices just hit a significant milestone

Fed to announce interest rate decision as inflation hits rough patch

 

Americans’ wages are finally outpacing inflation. Here’s why it may not last

[BeachGuy23 512]

1 minute ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Except they're not. Do you talk to anyone? 

BOYO, I'm out there, I have businesses and business partners, I'm in the trenches. 

Do you know that Builders and GCs are hiring illegal Immigrants because they come cheap? And do you know that it forces LEGAL contractors to lower their rates, thus lowering salaries and cutting employee benefits. 

It's happening EVERYWHERE!!! 

But you're not out there, your behind a desk slinging papers, reading CNN articles. 

Stop the hyperbole boyo.  We have a lack of tradies.  For every job an illegal takes, which by the way is the fault of the owner of the company, there are five other  jobs waiting for them.

People are not suffering.  People are spending like it's going out of style.  And salaries are up BIGLY so your "they're lowering salaries" is complete bs.

Step away from the alt right fear porn boyo.

[BeachGuy23 512]

2 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Home prices rose 2.4 times faster than inflation since 1960s

Surging gas prices just hit a significant milestone

Fed to announce interest rate decision as inflation hits rough patch

Gas prices go up and go down.  No biggie.

Home prices exploded in 2020 due to a number of factors.  One was Trump's mismanagement of the pandemic.  Another is Trump sending free checks to everyone.  Another is Trump bullying the Fed to keep rates near zero.  Lots of other factors but Trump played a huge part.

[Maximum Overkill 645]

4 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said:

Stop the hyperbole boyo.  We have a lack of tradies.  For every job an illegal takes, which by the way is the fault of the owner of the company, there are five other  jobs waiting for them.

You're out of touch BOYO. Just like most of America. 

[Ron_Artest 681]

7 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Except they're not. Do you talk to anyone? 

BOYO, I'm out there, I have businesses and business partners, I'm in the trenches. 

Do you know that Builders and GCs are hiring illegal Immigrants because they come cheap? And do you know that it forces LEGAL contractors to lower their rates, thus lowering salaries and cutting employee benefits. 

It's happening EVERYWHERE!!! 

But you're not out there, your behind a desk slinging papers, reading CNN articles. 

BS

Construction jobs are up.  Trying to find trades people these days is difficult.  You can't get anyone to call you back and their bids are outrageous.  You're lying.

[BeachGuy23 512]

2 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

You're out of touch BOYO. Just like most of America. 

Please explain how every place is packed and consumer spending is at all time highs then boyo.

[BeachGuy23 512]

1 minute ago, Ron_Artest said:

BS

Construction jobs are up.  Trying to find trades people these days is difficult.  You can't get anyone to call you back and their bids are outrageous.  You're lying.

He's just another cultist who consumes nothing but alt right fear porn and thinks that represents the country.  All he needs to do is go to an entertainment area or restaurant on a weekend and he'll see a totally different story. 

[Ron_Artest 681]

13 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said:

He's just another cultist who consumes nothing but alt right fear porn and thinks that represents the country.  All he needs to do is go to an entertainment area or restaurant on a weekend and he'll see a totally different story. 

It's gotta be exhausting to be so negative all the time and think out country is a disaster, all because trump says so.

[RLLD 3,455]

26 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said:

Gas prices go up and go down.  No biggie.

Home prices exploded in 2020 due to a number of factors.  One was Trump's mismanagement of the pandemic.  Another is Trump sending free checks to everyone.  Another is Trump bullying the Fed to keep rates near zero.  Lots of other factors but Trump played a huge part.

If all goes well, Trump can get into the white house and restore the policies that led to the profound benefit enjoyed by the lower classes.....and with it the building blocks for longer term prosperity for those folks.

[Ron_Artest 681]

25 minutes ago, RLLD said:

If all goes well, Trump can get into the white house and restore the policies that led to the profound benefit enjoyed by the lower classes.....and with it the building blocks for longer term prosperity for those folks.

What policies?

[RLLD 3,455]

2 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

What policies?

Rather than provide all the content and links all over again, you will have to search.....I have explained this many times over....which is strange since the outcomes were abundantly evident.   

Celebrating harm.....notably to the most economically challenged among us is a really strange way to live.....

[BeachGuy23 512]

42 minutes ago, RLLD said:

If all goes well, Trump can get into the white house and restore the policies that led to the profound benefit enjoyed by the lower classes.....and with it the building blocks for longer term prosperity for those folks.

You mean the policies that never led to GDP > 3% for a year or 4% for a quarter?

That created the largest trade deficit in history?

That added $8T to the debt?

That slowed the trajectory of unemployment?

That cried to the Fed to keep rates at 0%

That led to the inflation that exploded in early 2021?

Face it Trump did nothing but continue the amazing economy left to him by Obama and then ruin it. 

Facts not feelz boyo. 

[RLLD 3,455]

10 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said:

You mean the policies that never led to GDP > 3% for a year or 4% for a quarter?

That created the largest trade deficit in history?

That added $8T to the debt?

That slowed the trajectory of unemployment?

That cried to the Fed to keep rates at 0%

That led to the inflation that exploded in early 2021?

Face it Trump did nothing but continue the amazing economy left to him by Obama and then ruin it. 

Facts not feelz boyo. 

I want you and yours to tout this as loud as you possibly can, every hour of every day....I want this in the face of all the people Biden has hurt....

[tubby_mcgee 686]

On 12/30/2023 at 3:06 PM, 5-Points said:

Don't believe your what you see with your own eyes everyday, believe what the internet tells you to believe! 

- The Educated

 

Exactly!

Inflation rate is near 1.2%

Interest rates for borrowers below 3%

Gas under $2

Life is great under Biden! 

[BeachGuy23 512]

32 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I want you and yours to tout this as loud as you possibly can, every hour of every day....I want this in the face of all the people Biden has hurt....

That's all you ever say. 

Maybe try countering any of those facts I put in front of you.

Don't think that the Biden campaign won't remind people what 2020 was like for the country.  The worst handling of an emergency in our country's history.

But as for you, I know your feelz trumps all. 

[Engorgeous George 1,176]

On 3/18/2024 at 8:16 AM, edjr said:

If I claim hardship, can I withdraw my 401k without penalty and bet it all on red?

Did you learn nothing from passenger 57?

[Hardcore troubadour 12,653]

Gas prices rising again. Going to get worse. What’s Biden going to do this time? Already drained the reserves. 

[RLLD 3,455]

17 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said:

That's all you ever say. 

Maybe try countering any of those facts I put in front of you.

Don't think that the Biden campaign won't remind people what 2020 was like for the country.  The worst handling of an emergency in our country's history.

But as for you, I know your feelz trumps all. 

No on your life.  I want you all to continue gaslighting people, the polls indicate it is helping Trump....so by all means....have at it  

[supermike80 1,286]

2 hours ago, BeachGuy23 said:

You're wrong.

Real wages are now up.  Prices for everything except for housing have come way down, wages, particularly at the lower end of the scale, are up bigly.

If things are so bad, please explain why every restaurant is a madhouse, malls packed, airports packed, consumer spending at all time highs.

Just lol at people can't afford to live...SMH

People bit@h and complain about prices but never take into account how their wages have increased at the same time.

Have you seen the credit reports?   This is all being bought with plastic dummy

[Ron_Artest 681]

1 hour ago, RLLD said:

Rather than provide all the content and links all over again, you will have to search.....I have explained this many times over....which is strange since the outcomes were abundantly evident.   

Celebrating harm.....notably to the most economically challenged among us is a really strange way to live.....

What you've said in the past is we need to drill more, but we are producing more oil now than any country ever has in world history, so that point is moot.

You've also said Biden's covid bill was too much spending, but it was half what Trump spent on covid, so another moot point.

I was just curious why you brought up Biden policies when you were proven wrong in the past.  Curious if you had something new.

[RLLD 3,455]

11 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

What you've said in the past is we need to drill more, but we are producing more oil now than any country ever has in world history, so that point is moot.

You've also said Biden's covid bill was too much spending, but it was half what Trump spent on covid, so another moot point.

I was just curious why you brought up Biden policies when you were proven wrong in the past.  Curious if you had something new.

I have said much more than that. Given that I have been proven correct time and again, and that people were far better off as I noted, I am comfortably corroborated by the polling as people make it clear they are not happy.

[BeachGuy23 512]

56 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

Have you seen the credit reports?   This is all being bought with plastic dummy

So no different than any other time?

[BeachGuy23 512]

29 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I have said much more than that. Given that I have been proven correct time and again, and that people were far better off as I noted, I am comfortably corroborated by the polling as people make it clear they are not happy.

So feelz and not facts.

Typical conservative.

 

[supermike80 1,286]

1 minute ago, BeachGuy23 said:

So no different than any other time?

WAY different.  Credit balances are hitting all time highs.  

https://abcnews.go.com/US/americans-credit-card-debt-hits-record-113-trillion/story?id=106990807#:~:text=Credit card debt increased by,the fourth quarter of 2023.&text=Americans' credit card balances climbed,Reserve Bank of New York.

[BeachGuy23 512]

2 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

WAY different.  Credit balances are hitting all time highs.  

https://abcnews.go.com/US/americans-credit-card-debt-hits-record-113-trillion/story?id=106990807#:~:text=Credit card debt increased by,the fourth quarter of 2023.&text=Americans' credit card balances climbed,Reserve Bank of New York.

It hits a new high every year when we're sending out free checks to everyone boyo.

Consumers gonna spend.  Real wages are UP.

[RLLD 3,455]

4 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said:

So feelz and not facts.

Typical conservative.

 

Keep telling yourself what ever it takes.....

[supermike80 1,286]

2 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said:

It hits a new high every year when we're sending out free checks to everyone boyo.

Consumers gonna spend.  Real wages are UP.

You're literally making no sense at all.   But OK.  

[Ron_Artest 681]

43 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I have said much more than that. Given that I have been proven correct time and again, and that people were far better off as I noted, I am comfortably corroborated by the polling as people make it clear they are not happy.