Lunatic Alabama Supreme Court: frozen embryos are children

[IGotWorms 4,057]

14 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

🏳. Run along now. The vodka is calling to you. 

[seafoam1 2,803]

20 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said:

LMFAO

"attacked" such a soft lil bish you are.  And now you're throwing your kids in because you know how soft you look.

And btw "attacking" you for believing in a sky fairy ain't close to the same as slinging personal insults like you deplorable animals do.  Not even in the same universe moron.

"hur dur he attack me for me da belief in da book dat ritten by savages hur dur"

I LOL at how spongy soft you are.

pimpledoosh has lost it. 

[Ron_Artest 1,065]

1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

He wants to get in the muck. I’m Happy to oblige, I’m so good at it. If you had any integrity you would call out both sides.  

Jesus would be ashamed of your behavior here.  Just know that next time you walk into His house.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,943]

1 minute ago, Ron_Artest said:

Jesus would be ashamed of your behavior here.  Just know that next time you walk into His house.

I’m not perfect. He still loves me. Also, I’d like to double down on my wish that you would know the pain of the victims you mock and disparage. You deserve it. 

[Ron_Artest 1,065]

47 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said:

LMFAO

"attacked" such a soft lil bish you are.  And now you're throwing your kids in because you know how soft you look.

And btw "attacking" you for believing in a sky fairy ain't close to the same as slinging personal insults like you deplorable animals do.  Not even in the same universe moron.

"hur dur he attack me for me da belief in da book dat ritten by savages hur dur"

I LOL at how spongy soft you are.

I don't remember Jesus making fun of someone for having cancer or for living in an average sized house.

[Ron_Artest 1,065]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I’m not perfect. He still loves me. Also, I’d like to double down on my wish that you would know the pain of the victims you mock and disparage. You deserve it. 

What verse has Jesus wishing pain on other people?  Did you learn this yesterday at Church?

[Hardcore troubadour 14,943]

7 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

What verse has Jesus wishing pain on other people?  Did you learn this yesterday at Church?

I’m not perfect. I need to work on my thirst for justice. Until then my statement stands. You deserve to suffer the same fate as the victims you mock. If you said the same about me I would understand. I might even agree. That’s the difference between you and I. Man, not a man. 

[Ron_Artest 1,065]

5 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I’m not perfect. I need to work on my thirst for justice. Until then my statement stands. You deserve to suffer the same fate as the victims you mock. If you said the same about me I would understand. I might even agree. That’s the difference between you and I. Man, not a man. 

The difference between you and I is that I would never say that about you, because I follow the teachings of Jesus.  You just sit in His house.  You think being a man means being an ass hole.  You don't know the first thing about what it means to be a man. 

[seafoam1 2,803]

1 minute ago, Ron_Artest said:

The difference between you and I is that I would never say that about you, because I follow the teachings of Jesus.  You just sit in His house.  You think being a man means being an ass hole.  You don't know the first thing about what it means to be a man. 

[IGotWorms 4,057]

22 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Also, I’d like to double down on my wish that you would know the pain of the victims you mock and disparage. You deserve it. 

Another example of you being a piece of sh1t poster!

Please leave, it’s time. Wishing horrible things on your fellow Geeks is the single greatest sign. HTH

[Hardcore troubadour 14,943]

4 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

The difference between you and I is that I would never say that about you, because I follow the teachings of Jesus.  You just sit in His house.  You think being a man means being an ass hole.  You don't know the first thing about what it means to be a man. 

A man owns his words  and deeds. You do not. You said I attacked that kid in Oklahoma that died. I most certainly did not. When called out on it you hid like a coward. Be a man, own up to it. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,943]

1 minute ago, IGotWorms said:

Another example of you being a piece of sh1t poster!

Please leave, it’s time. Wishing horrible things on your fellow Geeks is the single greatest sign. HTH

Just the ones that mock the plight of victims. Let’s not get it twisted. 

[IGotWorms 4,057]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

Just the ones that mock the plight of victims. Let’s not get it twisted. 

You wished violent death on me in another thread. It’s a pattern with you and a clear indication that you take this place way too seriously, and also need to do some soul-searching generally 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,943]

4 hours ago, BeachGuy23 said:

How was mass boyo?

Did the sky fairy absolve you of the sin of being a cultist?

LMFAO

Hey man, I shouldn’t have made light of your condition. I apologize. I won’t be doing it again. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,943]

3 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

You wished violent death on me in another thread. It’s a pattern with you and a clear indication that you take this place way too seriously, and also need to do some soul-searching generally 

I believe I said I wish it were you instead. Let’s not act like I said it because we disagree about tax rates or something. It was calling attention to your callous disregard for the victims of violent crime. I stand by it. 

[IGotWorms 4,057]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

I believe indiad I wish it were you instead. Let’s not act like I said it because we disagree about tax rates or something. It was calling attention to your callous disregard for the victims of violent crime. I stand by it. 

I know you stand by it, because you’re an assh0le. Like I said, time to go

[BeachGuy23 642]

1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Hey man, I shouldn’t have made light of your condition. I apologize. I won’t be doing it again. 

All good boyo.  Just busting balls I know.

And I apologize for the sky fairy cracks.  I understand and really respect that people have different beliefs.

I still will be referring to you as a cultist moron and I assume I’m still a tranny loving lib.

Enjoy your Sunday boyo.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,943]

Just now, BeachGuy23 said:

All good boyo.  Just busting balls I know.

And I apologize for the sky fairy cracks.  I understand and really respect that people have different beliefs.

I still will be referring to you as a cultist moron and I assume I’m still a tranny loving lib.

Enjoy your Sunday boyo.

[Horseman 2,367]

All 5' 2" of Gutterboy telling people what it takes to be a man.  

[BeachGuy23 642]

6 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I do need to ratchet it back a notch or two.  I’ll bet we’d get along IRL.  My best friend is a huge conservative.  I’ll try to be more reasonable here with most folks. 

[Horseman 2,367]

4 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said:

I do need to ratchet it back a notch or two.  I’ll bet we’d get along IRL.  My best friend is a huge conservative.  I’ll try to be more reasonable here with most folks. 

I'd suggest directing your energy in trying to better your financial situation  Go get your CPA.  Get a second job driving Uber or something. 

[Ron_Artest 1,065]

 

[seafoam1 2,803]

5 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

 

What are "reproductive rights"? Get drunk, get layed, kill your kid because you don't want it? 

[Ron_Artest 1,065]

 

[IGotWorms 4,057]

11 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

 

Would it really “rip away access to IVF”?

I find that hard to believe.

But then again, who knows how far they want to go. Overturning Roe was just the beginning, there’s no doubt about that.

[seafoam1 2,803]

Just now, Ron_Artest said:

 

Sure thing pimpledoosh. gavin newsom. 

[Ron_Artest 1,065]

11 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Would it really “rip away access to IVF”?

I find that hard to believe.

But then again, who knows how far they want to go. Overturning Roe was just the beginning, there’s no doubt about that.

It defines a person at conception, same thing Alabama did, and there is no exception for IVF included.

[Horseman 2,367]

Update? Anyone arrested for murder yet?

 

 

 

 

[TimHauck 2,621]

On 2/25/2024 at 7:38 AM, TimHauck said:

@Horseman, you can keep distracting by laughing at the idea that someone could be charged for murder for intentionally discarding an embryo, but do you at least acknowledge that the ruling as is adds a ton of liability to IVF providers, which means significant added costs for potential parents for an already very expensive process?

And what do you think of the Alabama Supreme Court’s suggestion that only one embryo be created at a time?  The fact that they actually wrote in the decision, and I quote, “human life can not be wrongfully destroyed without incurring the wrath of a holy God,” the slippery slope for potential further rulings is real.

I’ll take that as a no, @Horseman won’t acknowledge the impacts of this ruling (even as is).

[Horseman 2,367]

2 hours ago, TimHauck said:

I’ll take that as a no, @Horseman won’t acknowledge the impacts of this ruling (even as is).

I educated you on the impacts at the very beginning of the thread when you still thought it was murder.  

On 2/23/2024 at 7:58 PM, Horseman said:

Why is it so difficult for some to do a bit of research and reading without having to be spoon fed everything? Let me try and dumb it down for you. 

- It was a ruling on a civil suit. It allowed parents to sue the clinics for accidentally destroying an embryo.  

- Of the two major clinics in AL one decided it wasnt worth the risk and turned patients away. The other kept going. 

- It was never a thing where clinic workers or parents were going to get criminally charged. You were duped if you believed that. 

- It was never a Republican agenda item, election issue. You were duped if you believed that. 

Now that that I've educated you on the topic, ask yourself who duped you and why you let it happen. You're welcome.  

[Hardcore troubadour 14,943]

2 minutes ago, Horseman said:

I educated you on the impacts at the very beginning of the thread when you still thought it was murder.  

So a private company made a decision? When Twitter was controlled by libtards, Tim Hack said that as a private company they could do what they want. Down goes Hack. Again. 

[The Psychic Observer 496]

3 minutes ago, Horseman said:

- It was a ruling on a civil suit. It allowed parents to sue the clinics for accidentally destroying an embryo.  

- Of the two major clinics in AL one decided it wasnt worth the risk and turned patients away. The other kept going. 

 

Less than a week after the Alabama Supreme Court ruled that embryos created through in vitro fertilization are considered children, three IVF providers in the state have suspended services as they consider the legal repercussions of the decision.

Hannah Echols, a spokesperson for UAB, said that health system will continue to offer egg retrieval but will no longer fertilize eggs or develop embryos.

"We are saddened that this will impact our patients’ attempt to have a baby through IVF, but we must evaluate the potential that our patients and our physicians could be prosecuted criminally or face punitive damages for following the standard of care for IVF treatments," Echols said in a statement.

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/university-alabama-pauses-ivf-services-court-rules-embryos-are-childre-rcna139846

[TimHauck 2,621]

Just now, Horseman said:

I educated you on the impacts at the very beginning of the thread when you still thought it was murder.  

Phew, good to know that 50% of the major clinics turning patients away isn’t going to have an impact on IVF in the state.  Dumbazz

Also, the ruling did not specify it needed to be an accident for a wrongful death lawsuit.

[Horseman 2,367]

22 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Phew, good to know that 50% of the major clinics turning patients away isn’t going to have an impact on IVF in the state.  Dumbazz

Also, the ruling did not specify it needed to be an accident for a wrongful death lawsuit.

Who said it's not an impact?

Purposely killing embryos count too!  Although that's the opposite of "F" in IVF.  

Metal Helmet strikes again.  

[TimHauck 2,621]

6 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Who said it's not an impact?

Purposely killing embryos count too!  Although that's the opposite of "F" in IVF.  

Metal Helmet strikes again.  

Sorry, your constant laughing about murder seemed to imply you thought the ruling was NBD.  Thanks for clarifying your position.

[IGotWorms 4,057]

46 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said:

 

Less than a week after the Alabama Supreme Court ruled that embryos created through in vitro fertilization are considered children, three IVF providers in the state have suspended services as they consider the legal repercussions of the decision.

Hannah Echols, a spokesperson for UAB, said that health system will continue to offer egg retrieval but will no longer fertilize eggs or develop embryos.

"We are saddened that this will impact our patients’ attempt to have a baby through IVF, but we must evaluate the potential that our patients and our physicians could be prosecuted criminally or face punitive damages for following the standard of care for IVF treatments," Echols said in a statement.

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/university-alabama-pauses-ivf-services-court-rules-embryos-are-childre-rcna139846

Like I said, only a dummy (apparently like Horseman) could not understand the implications

[The Psychic Observer 496]

3 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Like I said, only a dummy (apparently like Horseman) could not understand the implications

They're the same people that said that people will marry their dogs after we got gay marriage.

[Horseman 2,367]

13 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Like I said, only a dummy (apparently like Horseman) could not understand the implications

So nobody arrested for murder yet then?

 

 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,943]

22 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said:

They're the same people that said that people will marry their dogs after we got gay marriage.

They went for men getting pregnant instead. Just as ridiculous. 

[Ron_Artest 1,065]