jerryskids 6,652 Posted April 11, 2024 Quote Former President Donald Trump’s campaign is calling for additional 2024 presidential debates and for them to take place “much earlier” than initially proposed by the debate commission. The Trump campaign asserted that the candidate is willing to debate President Joe Biden “anytime, anyplace, and anywhere.” The Epoch Times received a copy of an April 11 letter from the campaign via email, authored by Trump campaign co-managers Susie Wiles and Chris LaCivita. The letter was sent to The Commission on Presidential Debates co-chairs Frank Farenkopf Jr. and Antonia Hernandez. Ms. Wiles and Mr. LaCivita told the commission they were writing “in agreement with the pending letter from television networks advocating for presidential debates to occur in 2024. “While the Commission on Presidential Debates has already announced three presidential debates and a vice-presidential debate to occur later this year, we are in favor of these debates beginning much earlier,” they wrote. In their letter, Ms. Wiles and Mr. LaCivita pointed out that “voting is beginning earlier and earlier, and as we saw in 2020, tens of millions of Americans had already voted by the time of the first debate. Expressing disappointment with the proposed 2024 calendar, they stated that it arrives too late and included an estimate of the number of Americans who will have cast their ballots by the time each debate is scheduled. “By the date of the first proposed debate, September 16, 2024, over 1 million Americans will have likely voted,” the Trump co-managers wrote. “By the date of the second proposed debate, October 1, 2024, the number of Americans who will have likely cast a ballot will be over 3 million, an increase of 225 percent.” Based on the third proposed debate date of Oct. 9, which is 35 days prior to Election Day, Ms. Wiles and Mr. LaCivita approximate that “8.7 million Americans will have already voted.” The Trump campaign contended that the American people “were robbed of a true and robust debate” in 2020, as the commission hosted just two debates that, according to the letter’s authors, took place “much too late in the election calendar despite voting timelines having moved up exponentially.” The Trump campaign stated in a letter to the debate commission that in 2020, they “ceded to the wishes of the Biden campaign on every front.” “Fairness in such a setting is paramount, and the Commission must ensure that the 2024 Commission-sponsored debates are truly fair and conducted impartially. The Commission must move up the timetable of its proposed 2024 debates to ensure more Americans have a full chance to see the candidates before they start voting, and we would argue for adding more debates in addition to those on the currently proposed schedule,” they wrote. “Former President Abraham Lincoln and former U.S. Senator Stephen A. Douglas held seven debates in their storied 1858 U.S. Senate battle in Illinois,” they added. “Certainly, today’s America deserves as much.” The Republican National Convention weighed in on the letter, with Chairman Michael Whatley and Co-Chair Lara Trump releasing a statement on April 11, asserting that “The RNC has long pushed for reforms that foster truly free and fair debates. “Election calendars have become longer than ever before—and scheduling debates after millions of Americans have already cast their ballots does a grave disservice to voters who want to hear solutions to the economic, border, and crime crises created by Joe Biden. It’s no wonder that Biden wants to return to the basement and avoid accountability for his failures, but Americans deserve to see the contrast between his weaknesses and President Trump’s vision to Make America Great Again.” Near the end of the letter, the Trump campaign reiterated the former president’s dedication to the debates, saying, “We have already indicated President Trump is willing to debate anytime, anyplace, and anywhere—and the time to start these debates is now.” https://www.theepochtimes.com/us/trump-campaign-wants-presidential-debates-to-start-earlier-5627077?utm_source=RTNews&src_src=RTNews&utm_campaign=rtbreaking-2024-04-11-5&src_cmp=rtbreaking-2024-04-11-5&utm_medium=email&est=AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAa%2Bc5ZwpCztPd4LIuuWhYArg0yEwD%2BTwvt3acngPVaRuLrk%2FaLA%3D%3D Trump's campaign wisely realizes that Biden is in no cognitive position to do anything resembling an actual open debate, so they are pushing the issue. Biden will surely pull some version of "I don't debate bad orange men" because of said cognitive failings. Should be interesting to see how this plays out. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,333 Posted April 12, 2024 The difference is that Biden has been a dumpster fire with many polls over the last 6-9 months showing a majority of Americans thinking him unfit mentally to be President. I don't believe he can hide in his basement this time and win. Trump being willing and able to debate and Biden hiding in the closet will only benefit Trump, who already has a good chance to win without that added advantage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeachGuy23 642 Posted April 12, 2024 As long as they mainline coke into Biden the week before the debate, he'll be aright. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zsasz 366 Posted April 12, 2024 LOL....Trump skipped the Republican debates; the guy is phonier than red hair on a Chinaman. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,065 Posted April 12, 2024 We’ll see if Don shows up! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,229 Posted April 12, 2024 Quote The Trump campaign contended that the American people “were robbed of a true and robust debate” in 2020, as the commission hosted just two debates that, according to the letter’s authors, took place “much too late in the election calendar despite voting timelines having moved up exponentially.” Trump got Covid and refused to debate remotely. He could have had a third debate, that's on him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,124 Posted April 12, 2024 2 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said: Trump got Covid and refused to debate remotely. He could have had a third debate, that's on him. Biden has dementia and loose bowels. I can understand why he won’t Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,229 Posted April 12, 2024 2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Biden has dementia and loose bowels. I can understand why he won’t Non sequitur - a conclusion or statement that does not logically follow from the previous argument or statement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,040 Posted April 12, 2024 Given Trump's recent incoherent speeches, I am sure Biden would welcome debating him. And Biden looked good at the State Of The Union Address (see the moments with the call and response with Republicans). 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,543 Posted April 12, 2024 I don’t think Trump is competent enough to handle a debate with Biden; he’d get his ass kicked just like before. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,065 Posted April 12, 2024 8 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Biden has dementia and loose bowels. I can understand why he won’t Don thinks he won the election, that he’s 6’3” 215, and that he wins golf championships Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,124 Posted April 12, 2024 5 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said: Non sequitur - a conclusion or statement that does not logically follow from the previous argument or statement. I was just saying he has health issues and it’s understandable why he won’t debate. Like when Trump had Covid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,543 Posted April 12, 2024 1 hour ago, Strike said: The difference is that Biden has been a dumpster fire with many polls over the last 6-9 months showing a majority of Americans thinking him unfit mentally to be President. I don't believe he can hide in his basement this time and win. Trump being willing and able to debate and Biden hiding in the closet will only benefit Trump, who already has a good chance to win without that added advantage. Yeah this narrative is about 3 months old and won’t fly any longer. Check the polls lately? Trump is the one who desperately needs a debate. But it doesn’t really matter. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,124 Posted April 12, 2024 3 minutes ago, thegeneral said: Don thinks he won the election, that he’s 6’3” 215, and that he wins golf championships Joe attended black church and temple in the politically Puerto Rican but Polish neighborhood he grew up in. And his father was for gay marriage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,065 Posted April 12, 2024 1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Joe attended black church and temple in the politically Puerto Rican but Polish neighborhood he grew up in. And his father was for gay marriage. I wouldn’t be bragging on Trump’s truth telling or grasp of reality Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,065 Posted April 12, 2024 I just hope tubby makes it to the election. Guy looks like death warmed over. If he keels over I am genuinely worried for some folks on here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,124 Posted April 12, 2024 3 minutes ago, thegeneral said: I wouldn’t be bragging on Trump’s truth telling or grasp of reality I’ll accept that challenge. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,543 Posted April 12, 2024 1 minute ago, thegeneral said: I just hope tubby makes it to the election. Guy looks like death warmed over. If he keels over I am genuinely worried for some folks on here. He has to sit in court 4 days a week for months starting next Monday. And he’s not allowed to leave. He’ll have to listen to testimony describing what a liar and criminal he is. Ought to be hilarious. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,065 Posted April 12, 2024 1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said: He has to sit in court 4 days a week for months starting next Monday. And he’s not allowed to leave. He’ll have to listen to testimony describing what a liar and criminal he is. Ought to be hilarious. It will be. Does he have to testify in this that he didn’t bang Stormy like he claims? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,543 Posted April 12, 2024 4 minutes ago, thegeneral said: It will be. Does he have to testify in this that he didn’t bang Stormy like he claims? Well now see there’s a problem with that. Trump says he didn’t bang her. But his attorneys have floated that he paid her off, not for campaign reasons, but to hide the affair from Melania. So which is it? But personally I don’t think he testifies at all. He can’t risk it; he lies too much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,286 Posted April 12, 2024 18 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: I don’t think Trump is competent enough to handle a debate with Biden; he’d get his ass kicked just like before. Biden can just lie and debate 2v1 and you'll eat it up Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,543 Posted April 12, 2024 Just now, RaiderHaters Revenge said: Biden can just lie and debate 2v1 and you'll eat it up My 2 year old neighbor could debate Trump and win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,652 Posted April 12, 2024 20 minutes ago, squistion said: Given Trump's recent incoherent speeches, I am sure Biden would welcome debating him. And Biden looked good at the State Of The Union Address (see the moments with the call and response with Republicans). Biden might welcome taking Pony Boy Trump behind the woodshed. His handlers, however, know that Biden is a zombie with no cognitive ability whatsoever to handle anything but a totally scripted event like the SOTU, with appropriate medication. There is no way they let Biden into an open debate with Trump, or even with a blade of grass. I sure hope the part of America voting for him knows they are voting for a houseplant and doing so only to stop the mean orange man. If there are a lot of people like you who think Biden is mentally nimble, our country is in bad shape. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,543 Posted April 12, 2024 1 minute ago, jerryskids said: His handlers, however, know that Biden is a zombie with no cognitive ability whatsoever to handle anything but a totally scripted event like the SOTU, with appropriate medication. Why do you repeat this nonsense? It’s not true, there’s no evidence of it being true. I know Trump says it, and Fox News says it but you’re a smart guy and I’m frankly surprised you’ve swallowed this narrative. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,286 Posted April 12, 2024 8 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: My 2 year old neighbor could debate Trump and win. youre two year old neighbor is smarter than you and biden then Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,286 Posted April 12, 2024 4 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Why do you repeat this nonsense? It’s not true, there’s no evidence of it being true. I know Trump says it, and Fox News says it but you’re a smart guy and I’m frankly surprised you’ve swallowed this narrative. theres no evidence?? he can't be prosecuted cause hes old and incapable of sitting trial 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jose M 125 Posted April 12, 2024 A bunch of simping for Biden in here. Don't let that distract from the fact Trump wants more debates and Biden hasn't committed to any. The reasons why are valid. Good move by Team Trump. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,652 Posted April 12, 2024 28 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Why do you repeat this nonsense? It’s not true, there’s no evidence of it being true. I know Trump says it, and Fox News says it but you’re a smart guy and I’m frankly surprised you’ve swallowed this narrative. I was a successful salesperson in part because I am an astute observer of people. I have been saying that Biden is in cognitive decline since before the 2020 election. Perhaps I err in presuming others can see what is so obvious to me. Carry on accusing me of being a Fox News sycophant. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,124 Posted April 12, 2024 22 minutes ago, Jose M said: A bunch of simping for Biden in here. Don't let that distract from the fact Trump wants more debates and Biden hasn't committed to any. The reasons why are valid. Good move by Team Trump. Better move by Biden to not do them. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,333 Posted April 12, 2024 1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said: Yeah this narrative is about 3 months old and won’t fly any longer. Check the polls lately? Trump is the one who desperately needs a debate. But it doesn’t really matter. Funny how you make assertions but never provide evidence to support them. You just make sh*t up: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,543 Posted April 12, 2024 14 minutes ago, jerryskids said: I was a successful salesperson in part because I am an astute observer of people. I have been saying that Biden is in cognitive decline since before the 2020 election. Perhaps I err in presuming others can see what is so obvious to me. Carry on accusing me of being a Fox News sycophant. I’m not accusing you of being a sycophant. But I do believe that your political beliefs are affecting your ability to look at this objectively. Biden is an old man. But given his schedule he has more energy than most of us. You called his state of the union speech scripted but his best moments in that speech came off the cuff when he responded to hecklers. There really is no evidence that he is “a zombie with no cognitive ability” using your words. It’s a ridiculous assertion. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,543 Posted April 12, 2024 2 minutes ago, Strike said: Funny how you make assertions but never provide evidence to support them. You just make sh*t up: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/ https://www.yahoo.com/news/biden-4-point-lead-over-054005574.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BudBro 175 Posted April 12, 2024 3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: I’m not accusing you of being a sycophant. But I do believe that your political beliefs are affecting your ability to look at this objectively. Biden is an old man. But given his schedule he has more energy than most of us. You called his state of the union speech scripted but his best moments in that speech came off the cuff when he responded to hecklers. There really is no evidence that he is “a zombie with no cognitive ability” using your words. It’s a ridiculous assertion. Biden's a turd. And, people who vote for him are the problem. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jose M 125 Posted April 12, 2024 7 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: I’m not accusing you of being a sycophant. But I do believe that your political beliefs are affecting your ability to look at this objectively. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jose M 125 Posted April 12, 2024 6 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: https://www.yahoo.com/news/biden-4-point-lead-over-054005574.html You respond to 538 with a single poll in a yahoo article? That's the dumbest thing I've seen all day and I've had gutterboy following me around. WOW Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,333 Posted April 12, 2024 3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: https://www.yahoo.com/news/biden-4-point-lead-over-054005574.html Let me quote the post I replied to: Quote Yeah this narrative is about 3 months old and won’t fly any longer. Check the polls lately? Trump is the one who desperately needs a debate. But it doesn’t really matter. And when confronted you link ONE poll. Your post suggests there is a trend, that Trump is getting his hat handed to him, and my post is outdated. So I posted a link to 538, a respected polling aggregator that even YOU should consider credible. It shows pretty much ALL the polls, including the ONE you chose to link to. See, I didn't cherry pick links like you did. And the data on the site I linked to does show a trend. The trend is that Trump is leading in MOST of the polls, even ones MORE RECENT than the one you linked to. Therefore, it PROVES that my assertion is NOT "3 months old" and if anything supports what I said. You're a focking hack. As I always say, I'm wiling to debate differences of opinion, but not your posting "misinformation" of the FACTS. For your convenience, I will repost the link I posted earlier that you either had trouble comprehending or chose not to look at so you can try to educate yourself further on this issue: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/ 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,333 Posted April 12, 2024 1 minute ago, Jose M said: You respond to 538 with a single poll in a yahoo article? That's the dumbest thing I've seen all day and I've had gutterboy following me around. WOW Not to mention my link already covered the poll he's talking about. I don't hide data and cherry pick links like he does. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,404 Posted April 12, 2024 I'm fine without debates this year. Clownzo would just turn them into his usual chest-beating circus of decorum destruction. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,333 Posted April 12, 2024 Just now, Pimpadeaux said: I'm fine without debates this year. Clownzo would just turn them into his usual chest-beating circus of decorum destruction. Yep, can't trust Biden not to sh*t himself in public. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,124 Posted April 12, 2024 2 minutes ago, Jose M said: You respond to 538 with a single poll in a yahoo article? That's the dumbest thing I've seen all day and I've had gutterboy following me around. WOW Share this post Link to post Share on other sites