Trump's NY Election Interference Trial - Trump is found guilty on all 34 counts

[Horseman 2,476]

1 minute ago, GutterBoy said:

That's proven fact right?  Big protest in D.C. on January 6th. Be there, will be wild.  He whipped them into a frenzy in person for an hour.  You don't know this?  Are you actually denying that he was behind January 6?

You should take a lap, you're making a fool of yourself even more than usual.  

[jerryskids 6,827]

1 minute ago, GutterBoy said:

That's proven fact right?  Big protest in D.C. on January 6th. Be there, will be wild.  He whipped them into a frenzy in person for an hour.  You don't know this?  Are you actually denying that he was behind January 6?

Sorry, I thought you meant that he organized the people into going into the Capitol building.  Because if he had, he'd be charged with treason.  Instead, he is charged with obscure codes from the Civil War about cheating the government.  You don't know this?

[RLLD 4,252]

Just now, GutterBoy said:

Well if you're just gonna deny reality then that's in you.

I live in reality, I deal with this honestly....it is you who suckle from the teat of Democrat propogandists in media....abandoning common sense in favor of the political ideology.....you serve your masters well

[GutterBoy 2,899]

1 minute ago, Horseman said:

You should take a lap, you're making a fool of yourself even more than usual.  

Of course horsedh1t is gonna deny that Trump was behind January 6 too.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,498]

31 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

This is wrong.  It is documented fact that the Russians influenced the 2016 election in favor of Trump. Please educate yourself on this.

 No evidence of collusion, after millions of dollars and years of investigation. Also, other countries , including Russia,have been interfering in our elections. as we do theirs, forever.  Just often at a larger scale than we saw here. Only an ignorant lackey with no knowledge of history would attempt to portray the minuscule occurrences in 2016 as unique or as having had any bearing on the election results.  What’s it like to be completely in line with Joy Behar and Whoopie on the issues? 

[GutterBoy 2,899]

1 minute ago, jerryskids said:

Sorry, I thought you meant that he organized the people into going into the Capitol building.  Because if he had, he'd be charged with treason.  Instead, he is charged with obscure codes from the Civil War about cheating the government.  You don't know this?

He called the mob to be in DC on Jan 6, he spoke to them, told them they needed to stop the steal, whipped the mob up into a frenzy and told them to go to the capitol.  He did not directly give the order to break into the capitol.  Can we agree on all that?

[squistion 2,219]

https://twitter.com/KatiePhang/status/1791124132098199804

BLANCHE:  “Do you agree with me that when you plead guilty of a crime and you are lying, that’s not accepting responsibility, is it?”

COHEN: “I accepted responsibility and I am suffering the consequences as a result”

[Hardcore troubadour 15,498]

2 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Sorry, I thought you meant that he organized the people into going into the Capitol building.  Because if he had, he'd be charged with treason.  Instead, he is charged with obscure codes from the Civil War about cheating the government.  You don't know this?

 No he doesn’t.  He thinks Trump got Putin to buy some Facebook ads in  2016 too. 

[GutterBoy 2,899]

2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

 No evidence of collusion, after millions of dollars and years of investigation. Also, other countries , including Russia,have been interfering in our elections. as we do theirs, forever.  Just often at a larger scale than we saw here. Only an ignorant lackey with no knowledge of history would attempt to portray the minuscule occurrences in 2016 as unique or as having had any bearing on the election results.  What’s it like to be completely in line with Joy Behar and Whoopie on the issues? 

We agree there was no evidence of collusion, but the interference we saw was at a scale never seen before.  You had russians pretending to be americans on social media spreading lies.  Russia stealing DNC emails.  They hacked into our voting machines for fock all.

But of course Trumpers dismiss all this because it diminishes the Trump victory.  You deny the truth to protect your ego.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,498]

5 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

We agree there was no evidence of collusion, but the interference we saw was at a scale never seen before.  You had russians pretending to be americans on social media spreading lies.  Russia stealing DNC emails.  They hacked into our voting machines for fock all.

But of course Trumpers dismiss all this because it diminishes the Trump victory.  You deny the truth to protect your ego.

Not aware of Russians hacking the DNC or hacking the voting machines.  That would be grounds for war. Your assertion is laughable.  

[Horseman 2,476]

7 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

He called the mob to be in DC on Jan 6, he spoke to them, told them they needed to stop the steal, whipped the mob up into a frenzy and told them to go to the capitol.  He did not directly give the order to break into the capitol.  Can we agree on all that?

You didn't know that Musk re-established Trump's tweets from that day after he bought twitter?  The ones government-twitter deleted?   Tweets from right after rally:

 

 

Kind of proves you wrong.  

 

[Horseman 2,476]

9 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

We agree there was no evidence of collusion, but the interference we saw was at a scale never seen before.  You had russians pretending to be americans on social media spreading lies.  Russia stealing DNC emails.  They hacked into our voting machines for fock all.

But of course Trumpers dismiss all this because it diminishes the Trump victory.  You deny the truth to protect your ego.

[jerryskids 6,827]

7 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

He called the mob to be in DC on Jan 6, he spoke to them, told them they needed to stop the steal, whipped the mob up into a frenzy and told them to go to the capitol.  He did not directly give the order to break into the capitol.  Can we agree on all that?

We can agree that he asked people to protest.  I learned a lot about protests vs. mobs from you Lefties during the Summer of Love.  Jan 6 was, what was the phrase... mostly peaceful.  Some people weren't, and they have been charged with crimes.

There is always an undercurrent of superiority from you pseuds about "whipping the mob into a frenzy," as if supporters of Trump are subhuman who can't control themselves.  You, Rusty, your new buddy BeachGuy, all the same.

[Hawkeye21 2,400]

7 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Not aware of Russians hacking the DNC or hacking the voting machines.  That would be grounds for war. Your assertion is laughable.  

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/grand-jury-indicts-12-russian-intelligence-officers-hacking-offenses-related-2016-election

The indictment includes 11 criminal counts:

• Count One alleges a criminal conspiracy to commit an offense against the United States through cyber operations by the GRU that involved the staged release of stolen documents for the purpose of interfering with the 2016 president election;
• Counts Two through Nine charge aggravated identity theft for using identification belonging to eight victims to further their computer fraud scheme;
• Count Ten alleges a conspiracy to launder money in which the defendants laundered the equivalent of more than $95,000 by transferring the money that they used to purchase servers and to fund other costs related to their hacking activities through cryptocurrencies such as bitcoin; and
• Count Eleven charges conspiracy to commit an offense against the United States by attempting to hack into the computers of state boards of elections, secretaries of state, and US companies that supplied software and other technology related to the administration of elections.

[GutterBoy 2,899]

2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Not aware of Russians hacking the DNC or hacking the voting machines.  That would be grounds for war. Your assertion is laughable.  

 

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While U.S. intelligence agencies have concluded that Russia was behind the email thefts, the AP drew on forensic data to report Thursday that the hackers known as Fancy Bear were closely aligned with the interests of the Russian government.

https://apnews.com/article/technology-europe-russia-hacking-only-on-ap-dea73efc01594839957c3c9a6c962b8a

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In another operation, GRU officers sent spearphishing emails to election officials and executives of companies that make voting machines, the report said.

In August 2016, GRU targeted employees of a company that develops software to manage voter rolls and installed malware on the company’s network, the report said without naming the company.

 

https://rollcall.com/2019/04/22/mueller-report-russia-hacked-state-databases-and-voting-machine-companies/

 

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Almost immediately, though, a number of them exhibited problems. Some crashed or froze. Others indicated that voters had already voted when they hadn’t. Others displayed an alert saying voters had to show ID before they could vote, even though a recent court case in North Carolina had made that unnecessary.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2019/12/26/did-russia-really-hack-2016-election-088171

[Horseman 2,476]

Probably should cut bait and go back to Ron Artest at this point.

[GutterBoy 2,899]

6 minutes ago, Horseman said:

You didn't know that Musk re-established Trump's tweets from that day after he bought twitter?  The ones government-twitter deleted?   Tweets from right after rally:

 

 

Kind of proves you wrong.  

 

That's laughable and doesn't disprove anything that happened before those tweets.

[thegeneral 3,239]

5 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

We can agree that he asked people to protest.  I learned a lot about protests vs. mobs from you Lefties during the Summer of Love.  Jan 6 was, what was the phrase... mostly peaceful.  Some people weren't, and they have been charged with crimes.

There is always an undercurrent of superiority from you pseuds about "whipping the mob into a frenzy," as if supporters of Trump are subhuman who can't control themselves.  You, Rusty, your new buddy BeachGuy, all the same.

How do you feel about Trump’s shtick where he calls these people hostages and has them signing “The Star Spangled Banner” at his pep rallies?

[RLLD 4,252]

Just now, thegeneral said:

How do you feel about Trump’s shtick where he calls these people hostages and has them signing “The Star Spangled Banner” at his pep rallies?

Well, if they don't vote for Trump they aint white......right?  Oh, wait...hold on ......

[thegeneral 3,239]

3 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Well, if they don't vote for Trump they aint white......right?  Oh, wait...hold on ......

Deflect and protect

[jerryskids 6,827]

3 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

How do you feel about Trump’s shtick where he calls these people hostages and has them signing “The Star Spangled Banner” at his pep rallies?

I think it is consistent with Trump's narcissism that he loves that people would do what they did for him.

That doesn't mean he organized a mob to invade the Capitol.  Which is why he is charged with obscure codes, not treason.

[RLLD 4,252]

1 minute ago, thegeneral said:

Deflect and protect

Orrrr......pretend one guy is the problem, doing all the things they all do.... and ignore reality.....like a good wittul sychophant

[Horseman 2,476]

5 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

 

https://apnews.com/article/technology-europe-russia-hacking-only-on-ap-dea73efc01594839957c3c9a6c962b8a

https://rollcall.com/2019/04/22/mueller-report-russia-hacked-state-databases-and-voting-machine-companies/

 

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2019/12/26/did-russia-really-hack-2016-election-088171

  I know reading is hard for you, but, slowing down, taking a breath and reading thoroughly will help you look less an idiot:

 

Link 1 - They got Hillary's emails.  Wow good choice.

Link 2 - They injected malicious SQL code on their websites.  Oh boy!

Link 3 - "To this day, no one knows definitively what happened with Durham’s poll books."

 

Guy works in IT.  

[thegeneral 3,239]

1 minute ago, RLLD said:

Orrrr......pretend one guy is the problem, doing all the things they all do.... and ignore reality.....like a good wittul sychophant

This is exactly what you are doing

You can just say “yeah that’s focked up” and move on.

[GutterBoy 2,899]

11 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

We can agree that he asked people to protest.  I learned a lot about protests vs. mobs from you Lefties during the Summer of Love.  Jan 6 was, what was the phrase... mostly peaceful.  Some people weren't, and they have been charged with crimes.

There is always an undercurrent of superiority from you pseuds about "whipping the mob into a frenzy," as if supporters of Trump are subhuman who can't control themselves.  You, Rusty, your new buddy BeachGuy, all the same.

Yeah, lots of self control in that riot, good point.

[thegeneral 3,239]

2 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

I think it is consistent with Trump's narcissism that he loves that people would do what they did for him.

That doesn't mean he organized a mob to invade the Capitol.  Which is why he is charged with obscure codes, not treason.

He loved that people attacked the Capitol for him is pretty messed up. For him to now try and use this as a political play is crazy. 

[GutterBoy 2,899]

5 minutes ago, Horseman said:

  I know reading is hard for you, but, slowing down, taking a breath and reading thoroughly will help you look less an idiot:

 

Link 1 - They got Hillary's emails.  Wow good choice.

Link 2 - They injected malicious SQL code on their websites.  Oh boy!

Link 3 - "To this day, no one knows definitively what happened with Durham’s poll books."

 

Guy works in IT.  

Do you have a point?  Tardcore claimed that Russia didn't steal the emails or hack the voting machines.  I provided links showing that they did.  And yes I work in IT.  Again do you have a point?

[IGotWorms 4,058]

29 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

We agree there was no evidence of collusion, but the interference we saw was at a scale never seen before.  You had russians pretending to be americans on social media spreading lies.  Russia stealing DNC emails.  They hacked into our voting machines for fock all.

But of course Trumpers dismiss all this because it diminishes the Trump victory.  You deny the truth to protect your ego.

After Trump asked them to. No conspiracy (“collusion” is not a legal term) my ass, Mueller was just too cowardly.

[Horseman 2,476]

3 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Do you have a point?  Tardcore claimed that Russia didn't steal the emails or hack the voting machines.  I provided links showing that they did.

Everyone knows Hillary's closet server got hacked.  That wasn't what you were talking about was it?   

Still waiting for a link showing voting machines got hacked.   

[IGotWorms 4,058]

That’s it, right there. Should’ve been charged with treason

[RLLD 4,252]

5 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

This is exactly what you are doing

You can just say “yeah that’s focked up” and move on.

No, I think I will highlight that all you, and yours, ever do is trot out behaviors you pretend to object to....this to justify your dislike of Trump as if these behaviors render him a "bad guy"....ignoring that all you are doing is describing all of them, notably Biden himself....

You see....you have been taught to hate others, those with whom you disagree.....and to justify that hate, you leverage these more or less common behaviors..... you lie to yourself. This leaves you self-satisfied that you have become "righteous" in your outage....justified in your toxic response.

You actively ignore that outcomes are what matter, allowing morons like Biden to hold power and wreak havoc on people, but what do you care? You can pretend you are some moral light.....fock all those people hurting...they need to suck it up and deal with it....so YOU can feel good...

Your actions are selfish, immature and destructive.....

And I will highlight that.....

[Horseman 2,476]

Tiny fingers furiously googling trying to find an article saying voting machines were hacked.  

I know I heard that from somewhere!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[thegeneral 3,239]

2 minutes ago, RLLD said:

No, I think I will highlight that all you, and yours, ever do is trot out behaviors you pretend to object to....this to justify your dislike of Trump as if these behaviors render him a "bad guy"....ignoring that all you are doing is describing all of them, notably Biden himself....

You see....you have been taught to hate others, those with whom you disagree.....and to justify that hate, you leverage these more or less common behaviors..... you lie to yourself. This leaves you self-satisfied that you have become "righteous" in your outage....justified in your toxic response.

You actively ignore that outcomes are what matter, allowing morons like Biden to hold power and wreak havoc on people, but what do you care? You can pretend you are some moral light.....fock all those people hurting...they need to suck it up and deal with it....so YOU can feel good...

Your actions are selfish, immature and destructive.....

And I will highlight that.....

Save your psychoanalysis for your book club meetings

Good lord. 

[IGotWorms 4,058]

1 minute ago, thegeneral said:

Save your psychoanalysis for your book club meetings

Good lord. 

RLLD is not a stable person 

[squistion 2,219]

 

[GutterBoy 2,899]

6 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Everyone knows Hillary's closet server got hacked.  That's wasn't what you were talking about was it?   

Still waiting for a link showing voting machines got hacked.   

Tardcore didn't know, so I shared the link.  Take it up with Tardcore, stupid.

I already shared the article about the hacks.  There are plenty more.

Here's another good one: https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-06-13/russian-breach-of-39-states-threatens-future-u-s-elections

For clarification because I know you're stupid and easily confused, I'm not claiming that Russians switched votes or anything like that, there is no evidence of that, just evidence of Russian malware on voting software and lots of other irregularities that happened.

[The Real timschochet 6,832]

2 minutes ago, RLLD said:

No, I think I will highlight that all you, and yours, ever do is trot out behaviors you pretend to object to....this to justify your dislike of Trump as if these behaviors render him a "bad guy"....ignoring that all you are doing is describing all of them, notably Biden himself....

You see....you have been taught to hate others, those with whom you disagree.....and to justify that hate, you leverage these more or less common behaviors..... you lie to yourself. This leaves you self-satisfied that you have become "righteous" in your outage....justified in your toxic response.

You actively ignore that outcomes are what matter, allowing morons like Biden to hold power and wreak havoc on people, but what do you care? You can pretend you are some moral light.....fock all those people hurting...they need to suck it up and deal with it....so YOU can feel good...

Your actions are selfish, immature and destructive.....

And I will highlight that.....

This post is an example, IMO, of a lot of what is wrong with the discussion in this forum, you are spending your time telling @thegeneral what he thinks, who he hates, what his motivations are. In truth you have no idea about any of this. I wish you you would focus on telling us what YOU think rather than analyze him. 

[RLLD 4,252]

2 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Save your psychoanalysis for your book club meetings

Good lord. 

No thank you.  Calling out people for what they are, what they are doing, is something I think needs to be done on occasion.  Perhaps upon reflection you sense some truth in what I have asserted.

It would be wise for ALL of use to avoid becoming the dutiful idiots for these political actors.

[RLLD 4,252]

1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

This post is an example, IMO, of a lot of what is wrong with the discussion in this forum, you are spending your time telling @thegeneral what he thinks, who he hates, what his motivations are. In truth you have no idea about any of this. I wish you you would focus on telling us what YOU think rather than analyze him. 

Thank you for that insight.

Unfortunately, it arises from time to time that someone really needs to be called out on the truth.  This was one of those instances.

In my analysis, he was the individual to whom I responded....but in reality....I am responding to all liberals.....

[Horseman 2,476]

2 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Tardcore didn't know, so I shared the link.  Take it up with Tardcore, stupid.

I already shared the article about the hacks.  There are plenty more.

Here's another good one: https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-06-13/russian-breach-of-39-states-threatens-future-u-s-elections

For clarification because I know you're stupid and easily confused, I'm not claiming that Russians switched votes or anything like that, there is no evidence of that, just evidence of Russian malware on voting software and lots of other irregularities that happened.

  Read your own links man

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The hackers accessed software designed to be used by poll workers on Election Day, and in at least one state accessed a campaign finance database.

Accessed software and one campaign finance database!  Oh boy!

Still waiting for a link where "voting machines" got hacked.