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1 minute ago, Reality said:

Thanks for the timely update, hadn't heard that one yet.

I just watched his remarks. JD might want to take a page from Don and duck his devate too.  

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1 minute ago, MDC said:

I just watched his remarks. JD might want to take a page from Don and duck his devate too.  

You TiVo it? 

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1 minute ago, Reality said:

You TiVo it? 

YouTube  

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58 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I’m not familiar with that recording. If he truly lied it’s bad. I suspect however there is more to the story. 
 

A week ago I didn’t know who Tim Walz was. From what I’ve read he sure seems like a guy filled with honor and great integrity. His actions as governor regarding transgenders in particular tell me that he’s a brave guy willing to stand up to his convictions. I really like and admire that. I also really like his stances on gays and undocumented immigrants, on Covid and the George Floyd protests. All of this makes he think he is a stand up guy. Perhaps like other politicians he stretches the truth about himself from time to time. That would be unfortunate. Still like him though. 

He didn’t exactly say he carried a weapon in war. They’re sorta twisting it but it could work. He basically made a comment that these school shooters killing a bunch of little kids are carrying the same weapons he did in war. Obviously the point was they’ve got access to weapons you maybe shouldn’t have unless you’re in an actual uniform, but eye liner guy thinks he can twist it. We’ll see

BTW this was at the Philly speech, not some secret tape he was trying to hide 

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42 minutes ago, Reality said:

It wasn't "due to retirement rules", he never completed the course work to retain the promotion so, he was demoted to the previous rank. His bio claims he retired as one, which is a blatant lie. 

Do you ever get any story correct?

 

I mean that’s basically exactly what Tim said. This is a reach. Actually it all is now that I’ve gotten a firmer understanding on the claims. 

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1 minute ago, IGotWorms said:

I mean that’s basically exactly what Tim said. This is a reach. Actually it all is now that I’ve gotten a firmer understanding on the claims. 

You got a "firmer understanding". 

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37 minutes ago, MDC said:

Kayzee Kamabla. Not your best work Mr. President.  

He’s jumped the shark that’ll eat you if you don’t get electrocuted by the boat  

[Hardcore troubadour 15,226]

6 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

He didn’t exactly say he carried a weapon in war. They’re sorta twisting it but it could work. He basically made a comment that these school shooters killing a bunch of little kids are carrying the same weapons he did in war. Obviously the point was they’ve got access to weapons you maybe shouldn’t have unless you’re in an actual uniform, but eye liner guy thinks he can twist it. We’ll see

BTW this was at the Philly speech, not some secret tape he was trying to hide 

You’re getting a lot of stuff wrong. He’s been saying it for a while now. 

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1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

You’re getting a lot of stuff wrong. He’s been saying it for a while now. 

wormy is a confirmed idiot

 

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6 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

I mean that’s basically exactly what Tim said. This is a reach. Actually it all is now that I’ve gotten a firmer understanding on the claims. 

Yeah, this is just wrong. Feel free to get an even "firmer" understanding.

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1 minute ago, seafoam1 said:

You got a "firmer understanding". 

Well you guys say it pretty convincingly and I actually have learned I can’t automatically discount everything that seems like bullsh1t right wing propaganda. You were right about Biden sh1tting his pants and antisemitic college demonstrations before that.

So I do listen now, but this one is overblown. Lied about his rank because of some bullsh1t administrative sh1t that “automatically” happened after he retired? I mean was he ever even notified of that? And then the weapons thing, that’s just gun control rhetoric. Though the Iraq part, hey maybe that’s still something. Did he really claim to serve there?

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3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

You’re getting a lot of stuff wrong. He’s been saying it for a while now. 

Okay well what? Educate me. I’m serious I really will listen to you guys after the Biden senility and anti semitic protesters wins 

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1 minute ago, IGotWorms said:

Well you guys say it pretty convincingly and I actually have learned I can’t automatically discount everything that seems like bullsh1t right wing propaganda. You were right about Biden sh1tting his pants and antisemitic college demonstrations before that.

So I do listen now, but this one is overblown. Lied about his rank because of some bullsh1t administrative sh1t that “automatically” happened after he retired? I mean was he ever even notified of that? And then the weapons thing, that’s just gun control rhetoric. Though the Iraq part, hey maybe that’s still something. Did he really claim to serve there?

You do you liberal bltch. You are compromised. And unintelligible. 

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11 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

He didn’t exactly say he carried a weapon in war. They’re sorta twisting it but it could work. He basically made a comment that these school shooters killing a bunch of little kids are carrying the same weapons he did in war. Obviously the point was they’ve got access to weapons you maybe shouldn’t have unless you’re in an actual uniform, but eye liner guy thinks he can twist it. We’ll see

BTW this was at the Philly speech, not some secret tape he was trying to hide 

If this video is it then yeah is easy to explain. That this would be an issue when the other ticket has a guy who said McCain was only a hero because he got captured kind of rings hollow.

I would like to see Walz answer this question though to see how he responds. 

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2 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

You do you liberal bltch. You are compromised. And unintelligible. 

That’s a very insightful response peefoam, I can see I was in the wrong here

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55 minutes ago, Reality said:

It wasn't "due to retirement rules", he never completed the course work to retain the promotion so, he was demoted to the previous rank. His bio claims he retired as one, which is a blatant lie. 

Do you ever get any story correct?

 

Thanks for the clarification. So this is what the big lie is all about? Sorry I don’t care. 

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1 minute ago, thegeneral said:

If this video is it then yeah is easy to explain. That this would be an issue when the other ticket has a guy who said McCain was only a hero because he got captured kind of rings hollow.

I would like to see Walz answer this question though to see how he responds. 

True, he should have to answer to it. And given that these are old accusations from years ago, it shouldn’t be that hard. Onus is on him now, although you can’t let em drive the agenda either 

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3 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

That’s a very insightful response peefoam, I can see I was in the wrong here

Wow. Mdcackesque. You are so proving your smarts. 

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3 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

True, he should have to answer to it. And given that these are old accusations from years ago, it shouldn’t be that hard. Onus is on him now, although you can’t let em drive the agenda either 

Yep. This is part of the gig. Have your shet picked clean and see how you take it.

Like most I am really just seeing this guy for first time past couple weeks. He does seem quick on his feet, well spoken, and gives good answers. But this is next level.

I posted an interview somewhere in here he gave at some point after his Gov run where some of these issues were raised by his opponent. He answered there very well.

 

 

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19 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

He’s jumped the shark that’ll eat you if you don’t get electrocuted by the boat  

 

Started going downhill with Ron Desanctimonious. Meatball Ron was a homerun. 

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2 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

I would like to see Walz answer this question though to see how he responds. 

He's ignored the question from the reporters when asked so far. Neither one is allowed to take questions from the press.  They have stupid handlers just like Biden had dimensia handlers.   

Trump did an interview yesterday. What's wrong with Kamabla and Tampon Tim?

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9 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Thanks for the clarification. So this is what the big lie is all about? Sorry I don’t care. 

We know.

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Just now, JuneJuly said:

He's ignored the question from the reporters when asked so far. Neither one is allowed to take questions from the press.  They have stupid handlers just like Biden had dimensia handlers.   

Trump did an interview yesterday. What's wrong with Kamabla and Tampon Tim?

They got all the momentum. Let Orange Julius and Eyeliner Guy spin their wheels for a bit.

I would like to see interviews. I’d expect those are all getting planned out as they build to the Convention. 

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Trumps been shot at more times than Walz

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Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

Trumps been shot at more times than Walz

You are the biggest ball bag on here, well after Peefoam…but this is pretty funny

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4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Trumps been shot at more times than Walz

Damn. That's quality.

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2 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

They got all the momentum. Let Orange Julius and Eyeliner Guy spin their wheels for a bit.

I would like to see interviews. I’d expect those are all getting planned out as they build to the Convention. 

Tard boy thinks there is a bunch of planning that goes into an interview.  

[The Real timschochet 6,585]

I should have known about the video as soon as I saw @Strike’s name that it would be misleading as hell. What a crock of sh!t. 
 

So let me get this straight, there are three accusations made against Walz regarding his military service:  

1. He left his National Guard unit, after 24 years of service, two months before it was deployed. At the time he left he didn’t know it would be deployed. MAGA has turned this into “he ran away from combat and abandoned his buddies!” 

2. Shortly before he quit he was promoted to Sgt. Command Major, which is a very hard position to reach. He never actually served in that position having not completed the formalities, yet his bio for office reads he retired in that position. MAGA had turned this into “he lied about his rank!” 

3. In a speech promoting gun control, Walz made the point that civilians were using weapons of war that Walz used during his time in the service; he said “weapons that I used in war”. MAGA has turned this into “he lied about being in combat”. 
 

Sorry guys all three of these are nothingburgers. I suppose the last one could be seen as slightly problematic but it’s pretty clear that his overall point was about the weapons in question and not some sort of brag that he was in a war he wasn’t. If he’s pressed on it I’m sure he’ll say he misspoke and shouldn’t have said that. But I don’t think any of this rises to anything the public is going to care about. It certainly doesn’t change my mind about the guy. 

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6 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

They got all the momentum. Let Orange Julius and Eyeliner Guy spin their wheels for a bit.

I would like to see interviews. I’d expect those are all getting planned out as they build to the Convention. 

You're going to have to hold your breath on Kamala getting interviewed.  Keep this post/thread in mind as the weeks go on and she doesn't do one. 

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1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

I should have known about the video as soon as I saw @Strike’s name that it would be misleading as hell. What a crock of sh!t. 
 

So let me get this straight, there are three accusations made against Walz regarding his military service:  

1. He left his National Guard unit, after 24 years of service, two months before it was deployed. At the time he left he didn’t know it would be deployed. MAGA has turned this into “he ran away from combat and abandoned his buddies!” 

2. Shortly before he quit he was promoted to Sgt. Command Major, which is a very hard position to reach. He never actually served in that position having not completed the formalities, yet his bio for office reads he retired in that position. MAGA had turned this into “he lied about his rank!” 

3. In a speech promoting gun control, Walz made the point that civilians were using weapons of war that Walz used during his time in the service; he said “weapons that I used in war”. MAGA has turned this into “he lied about being in combat”. 
 

Sorry guys all three of these are nothingburgers. I suppose the last one could be seen as slightly problematic but it’s pretty clear that his overall point was about the weapons in question and not some sort of brag that he was in a war he wasn’t. If he’s pressed on it I’m sure he’ll say he misspoke and shouldn’t have said that. But I don’t think any of this rises to anything the public is going to care about. It certainly doesn’t change my mind about the guy. 

1 - Of course you have an idea when reserves are going to be called up. It's not a secret surprise.  

2 - Demoted 

3 - Saying he was in war is a lie. How is it not. 

[The Real timschochet 6,585]

One of the things I really admire about Walz is his stance on gay and trans issues. He was way ahead of other Democratic politicians on this stuff, which again goes to his courage and integrity: 

https://www.advocate.com/election/tim-walz-lgbtq-record#rebelltitem4

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1 minute ago, JuneJuly said:

1 - Of course you have an idea when reserves are going to be called up. It's not a secret surprise.  

2 - Demoted 

3 - Saying he was in war is a lie. How is it not. 

If Trump can pretend to be a Republican Walz can pretend to be Captain America.  

[thegeneral 3,100]

3 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

You're going to have to hold your breath on Kamala getting interviewed.  Keep this post/thread in mind as the weeks go on and she doesn't do one. 

We will see. I’m sure when she does one you all will cry about that too.

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3 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

You're going to have to hold your breath on Kamala getting interviewed.  Keep this post/thread in mind as the weeks go on and she doesn't do one. 

She will give interviews either during or just after the convention. Perhaps sooner. She doesn’t have a history of avoiding interviews so this seems like a silly  prediction on your part, IMO. 

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13 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Trumps been shot at more times than Walz

That is pretty good

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4 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

One of the things I really admire about Walz is his stance on gay and trans issues. He was way ahead of other Democratic politicians on this stuff, which again goes to his courage and integrity: 

https://www.advocate.com/election/tim-walz-lgbtq-record#rebelltitem4

Trump was an advocate for gay marriage before Obama and Biden 

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8 minutes ago, JuneJuly said:

Tard boy thinks there is a bunch of planning that goes into an interview.  

If you are smart.

Trump calling to get jerked by Fox and Friends or talking to some dipshet on TikTok about CyberTruxks

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Trump, Don Jr, Eric, Eric's wife, they all give interviews all the time. They call into local radio stations. JD talked to the press that was following around Kamala just today that Kamala ignores.   It's called campaigning.  

[thegeneral 3,100]

Walz and Kamala campaigned today. They are surging in all the polls. Seems to be working. 

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9 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

I should have known about the video as soon as I saw @Strike’s name that it would be misleading as hell. What a crock of sh!t. 
 

So let me get this straight, there are three accusations made against Walz regarding his military service:  

1. He left his National Guard unit, after 24 years of service, two months before it was deployed. At the time he left he didn’t know it would be deployed. The second in command to him states that they had recieved a predeployment warning or notification.  He did know if the second in command is to be believed. As the military has protocols for such things the second in command's assertion would certainly be verifiable. MAGA has turned this into “he ran away from combat and abandoned his buddies!” 

2. Shortly before he quit he was promoted to Sgt. Command Major, which is a very hard position to reach. He never actually served in that position having not completed the formalities, yet his bio for office reads he retired in that position. MAGA had turned this into “he lied about his rank!” The formalities of obtaining a rank are taken pretty seriously in the military.  He should have been fully aware of this.  As it is his bio, touted by him, and he knew, formality or not that it was not true that would make it a lie.

3. In a speech promoting gun control, Walz made the point that civilians were using weapons of war that Walz used during his time in the service; he said “weapons that I used in war”. MAGA has turned this into “he lied about being in combat”.  Another lie.  he was looking to create an untrue impression of valor and service.  He could have and should have said weapons that soldiers have carried in war.  Guardsmen are keenly aware of whether or not they are in a war zone.  Pay and service ribbons depend on such matters.  There was and is no mistaking this. H.e puffed his service to inflate his importance. Do I care, not particularly but I never served and watched buddies die in service.  To those that have this may be important.  I comment, as I generally do, not on being bothered by the issue but becasue I am bothered by the twisting of language and by poor logic.
 

Sorry guys all three of these are nothingburgers. I suppose the last one could be seen as slightly problematic but it’s pretty clear that his overall point was about the weapons in question and not some sort of brag that he was in a war he wasn’t. If he’s pressed on it I’m sure he’ll say he misspoke and shouldn’t have said that. But I don’t think any of this rises to anything the public is going to care about. It certainly doesn’t change my mind about the guy. Your mind was made up before you had any idea of the facts.  He is on your team and that excuses and justifies all.