Trump talk only- no Eagles talk allowed (Steelers talk is OK though)

[Sean Mooney 1,936]

2 hours ago, seafoam1 said:

Easy to see why you didn't supply a link.

Purchasing, owning, and operating. So that includes the cost of the car, the title, the taxes, the maintenance, the gas, the insurance..... He's covering all the costs that people who don't know how to manage money don't consider when they impulse buy things. Like yourself I'm guessing. 

Cry and whine all you want but put your weak ass "messages" into context, fool. 

Speaking to a crowd in Byron Center in Kent County, Vance said, "Thanks to Kamala Harris' spending policies, the average new car costs nearly $50,000 a year."

According to the United States Department of Transportation's bureau statistics, the average annual cost of owning and operating an automobile, assuming the owner drives 15,000 miles, was $12,182 in 2023.

It seems Vance may have been referencing the total average cost of a new vehicle, which was $47,010 in 2023. 

 

So if I add two numbers together I still don't get to the number he said. But I have to know to add those two numbers together because he didn't make that distinction. I mean you don't usually add in those details for other politicians like- oh, we'll say Biden.

Then you read an article on Newsweek....which is normally the evil left MSM to you, but in this case it helps you sketch some details together so it's okay.

I didn't have to supply a link because even your link repeats what I said he said. Everything from "according....to....in 2023" is someone else adding context to his quotes that he didn't.

In conclusion- get fvcked

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12 minutes ago, squistion said:

So much for the meme that no one knows what her policy positions are:

https://x.com/kylegriffin1/status/1824077403787764190

NBC News: In an economic address on Friday, Vice President Harris will call for imposing the first federal ban on corporate price gouging in the food and grocery industries.

The policy would set "clear rules of the road to make clear that big corporations can’t unfairly exploit consumers to run up excessive corporate profits on food and groceries," the Harris campaign said in a statement. @MSNBC

 Has that ever been tried anywhere on Earth?  Quite revolutionary.  I’m guessing rent will be next?  

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10 hours ago, seafoam1 said:

It's proven that Trump has far exceeded biden in terms of economy and foreign relations. Hell, we are sending trillions to fund a war in Europe because of biden. 

You fight to show off your ignorance and it is working. Bravo child. 

You realize we are not sending like actual money to Ukraine right? We are sending them "trillions" of old equipment that was going to be decommissioned anyways and paying American companies to build us better/newer stuff.

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3 minutes ago, purdygood said:

You realize 

It’s probably not wise to begin any post directed at @seafoam1 with these two words. 

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Just now, Fireballer said:

 Has that ever been tried anywhere on Earth?  Quite revolutionary.  I’m guessing rent will be next?  

Rent, unlike grocery stores, is not controlled by a half dozen corporations who, when one raises prices, the others follow suit.

Not revolutionary if you consider the history of Anti-Trust laws and resulting legislation in this country. And cracking down on price gouging is not exactly a new concept either.

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11 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

If anything, conservatives who refuse to take any action to combat climate change have contributed the most to this problem (along with the border issue as well.) 

Cuck-a-doodle-doo!

Cuck-a-doodle-doo!

[The Real timschochet 6,402]

8 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

 Has that ever been tried anywhere on Earth?  Quite revolutionary.  I’m guessing rent will be next?  

Couldn’t the same complaint be made about Trump’s simplistic solution? (Drill drill drill when we already are currently producing more oil than at any time in our history.) 

Inflation has pretty much petered out, even if it’s still 20% higher than it was before Covid. IMO, neither Trump’s proposed solution, or Kamala’s, will have a huge effect on this. But we KNOW that some of Trump’s other proposals, particularly his tariff ideas, will make inflation far worse. 

[The Real timschochet 6,402]

JD Vance agrees to debate with Tim Walz. October 1. 

[HellToupee 1,583]

11 hours ago, squistion said:

You equate family members killed in a death camp genocide (The Holocast) on the same level as those killed in a war?

There is no level besides good and bad . It’s a horrible thing for the families left to deal with the deaths

[Reality 3,092]

2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

But I think that Kamala’s proposal will be a popular one. 

Of course it will, your kind are very stupid.

It will also do absolutely nothing to alleviate actual inflation. HTH

The government caused the problem, setting price limits will only make things worse. This is high school level of understanding economics.

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Just now, Reality said:

Of course it will, your kind are very stupid.

It will also do absolutely nothing to alleviate actual inflation. HTH

The government caused the problem, setting price limits will only make things worse. This is high school level of understanding economics.

I'm genuinely curious, what would you do to alleviate inflation?

[HellToupee 1,583]

28 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

It’s probably not wise to begin any post directed at @seafoam1 with these two words. 

When you make personal attacks and poke , poke,poke at people with trolling posts don't be surprised when people post ugly vile things back at you. It doesn’t justify vile antisemitic remarks directed at you but it does take 2 to tango. Every action has a reaction . Some are called for and others aren’t. 

 

 

[Reality 3,092]

3 minutes ago, purdygood said:

I'm genuinely curious, what would you do to alleviate inflation?

First, genuinely curious about the topic at hand and Harris policy, do you think federally mandated grocery prices solves the inflation problem?

[Hardcore troubadour 14,915]

So Real Tim, who is hysterical about tariffs on countries that are ripping us off, is for price controls. Good lord.  He will do as told, no matter what he’s told.  And he thinks he’s some sort of policy wonk.  Go away.  

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Just now, Reality said:

First, genuinely curious about the topic at hand and Harris policy, do you think federally mandated grocery prices solves the inflation problem?

I'm not for that. It would just mean either the "tax payers" the "same people" buying those groceries would be covering the difference via our national debt.  Or the grocery stores would have to make less profit which they don't want to do.   What is your solution?

[The Real timschochet 6,402]

8 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

When you make personal attacks and poke , poke,poke at people with trolling posts don't be surprised when people post ugly vile things back at you. It doesn’t justify vile antisemitic remarks directed at you but it does take 2 to tango. Every action has a reaction . Some are called for and others aren’t. 

 

 

Have you read this guys posts? Have you read his posts regarding me in particular? I think my responses have been relatively gentle. 

[The Real timschochet 6,402]

5 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

So Real Tim, who is hysterical about tariffs on countries that are ripping us off, is for price controls. Good lord.  He will do as told, no matter what he’s told.  And he thinks he’s some sort of policy wonk.  Go away.  

Every sentence here is wrong. It’s amazing how many things you get wrong. 

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15 minutes ago, purdygood said:

I'm genuinely curious, what would you do to alleviate inflation?

Can start with increasing the oil supply. 

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Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

Can start with increasing the oil supply. 

I'm fine with that, but isn't it also at a all time high already?

[Hardcore troubadour 14,915]

1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

Every sentence here is wrong. It’s amazing how many things you get wrong. 

You’re not hysterical about tariffs on countries that rip us off? 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,915]

Just now, purdygood said:

I'm fine with that, but isn't also at an all time high already?

So?? Opec is also holding back and there is an embargo on Russian oil. Kind of a big deal.  

[The Real timschochet 6,402]

21 minutes ago, Reality said:

Of course it will, your kind are very stupid.

It will also do absolutely nothing to alleviate actual inflation. HTH

The government caused the problem, setting price limits will only make things worse. This is high school level of understanding economics.

I have no idea if it will alleviate inflation. But I do know that your assertion “the government caused the problem” is lazy, extremely simplistic, and almost certainly wrong, and this makes me skeptical of your other assertions. 

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3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Have you read this guys posts? Have you read his posts regarding me in particular? I think my responses have been relatively gentle. 

Not really to be honest. I did notice the past month or so you trying to get under people’s skin , maybe I’m not seeing the full picture 

[The Real timschochet 6,402]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

You’re not hysterical about tariffs on countries that rip us off? 

Hysterical? No. And it’s not on selective countries, as I continue to point out. It’s on ALL countries. Trump confirmed this again yesterday. 

[Reality 3,092]

7 minutes ago, purdygood said:

I'm not for that. It would just mean either the "tax payers" the "same people" buying those groceries would be covering the difference via our national debt.  Or the grocery stores would have to make less profit which they don't want to do.   What is your solution?

Government deficit spending and the federal reserve printing money are the reasons we are here. You can start there.

[The Real timschochet 6,402]

11 hours ago, seafoam1 said:

I had a grandfather who was in WW1 and got a purple heart. My dad was in WW2. Boo hoo and cheers to all of us for some reason.

The issue is, timmy is fighting in current day to ruin this once great nation by instilling a single party system that is no longer even democratic because a select few liberals are picking their candidate instead of the people of the country picking the candidate. 

timmy NEEDS authoritarian leadership based on the hatred he has for American freedom. 

This is fact.  

Here you go @HellToupee. 

[The Real timschochet 6,402]

2 minutes ago, Reality said:

Government deficit spending and the federal reserve printing money are the reasons we are here. You can start there.

Putting aside everything else, if you believe this please explain how you can support Donald Trump and the current GOP agenda which involves increasing government deficit spending far more than anything the Democrats have proposed. 

[Reality 3,092]

Just now, The Real timschochet said:

Putting aside everything else, if you believe this please explain

You don't agree that government deficit spending and the Fed printing money got us to this point?

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2 minutes ago, Reality said:

You don't agree that government deficit spending and the Fed printing money got us to this point?

It certainly has been a factor, a large factor, but Donald Trump contributed to this factor and his policies will only further this.  If you believe this then Donald Trump is the wrong person to fix it, clearly.

[The Real timschochet 6,402]

1 minute ago, Reality said:

You don't agree that government deficit spending and the Fed printing money got us to this point?

No, because inflation is world wide, was caused by Covid, and internal American spending has made little difference. That said I agree our deficit and overall debt is a long term ticking time bomb which neither political party is willing to address. But my observation is that despite their rhetoric on the subject, Republicans have been significantly worse than Democrats on this issue (mainly because Democrats are willing to raise taxes) and that Trump’s current plans will raise the deficit far more than any Democrat or anyone who has come before him. Would you agree with any of this? 

[Reality 3,092]

Just now, The Psychic Observer said:

It certainly has been a factor, a large factor, but Donald Trump contributed to this factor and his policies will only further this.  If you believe this then Donald Trump is the wrong person to fix it, clearly.

What was inflation during his 4 year term?

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2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

No, because inflation is world wide, was caused by Covid, and internal American spending has made little difference. That said I agree our deficit and overall debt is a long term ticking time bomb which neither political party is willing to address. But my observation is that despite their rhetoric on the subject, Republicans have been significantly worse than Democrats on this issue (mainly because Democrats are willing to raise taxes) and that Trump’s current plans will raise the deficit far more than any Democrat or anyone who has come before him. Would you agree with any of this? 

What was inflation during the Trump administration?

[The Real timschochet 6,402]

1 minute ago, Reality said:

What was inflation during his 4 year term?

You’re all over the place and apparently unwilling to face the contradiction in your position. 

Inflation was far better under Trump than it was now. Trump greatly increased the annual deficit and debt, which demonstrates your theory that government spending is directly related to inflation is false. And you still won’t answer the question of why you support Trump’s new proposals to vastly increase the deficit when you are (correctly) concerned with the long term ramifications of doing so. 

[The Psychic Observer 495]

4 minutes ago, Reality said:

What was inflation during his 4 year term?

Where does he rank for most debt added per year?  #1 of all presidents of all time.  Which added to the inflation we saw in 2021-2022.

[Reality 3,092]

Just now, The Real timschochet said:

Inflation was far better under Trump than it was now. Trump greatly increased the annual deficit and debt.

Yup, agreed. The rest of your Trump commentary is along the lines of: Source, - "trust me bro".

Not interested.

Had to be done, the world was in a p(L)andemic. That's over, has been for some time, continuing the uncontrolled spending after landed is in this position.

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I remember when people use to care about the deficit. 

[purdygood 333]

15 minutes ago, Reality said:

Government deficit spending and the federal reserve printing money are the reasons we are here. You can start there.

Will Donald Trump commit to not doing that and actually follow through? Because I dont trust him.

[The Real timschochet 6,402]

Just now, Reality said:

Yup, agreed. The rest of your Trump commentary is along the lines of: Source, - "trust me bro".

Not interested.

Had to be done, the world was in a p(L)andemic. That's over, has been for some time, continuing the uncontrolled spending after landed is in this position.

If it had to be done, what is your explanation for Trump’s current proposals which will increase the deficit way more than he did the last time around? 

[The Real timschochet 6,402]

1 minute ago, Hawkeye21 said:

I remember when people use to care about the deficit. 

No you don’t. The truth is that nobody has ever cared about the deficit. Republicans pretended to care but only as a means to attack spending they didn’t particularly like. Democrats are more honest: they never pretended (although as I wrote earlier Democrats have generally been more fiscally responsible than Republicans but not because they give a crap about it.) 

[Tree of Knowledge 1,697]

So basically Kamala will read a prepared statement blaming one of the Regime’s many failures on someone else and her solution cannot be implemented now. It has to be done after you vote for her.