Uninformed people like Trump

[jerryskids 6,558]

5 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

What I don’t know is if you read NYTimes online or your local newspaper online or WaPo etc, does that count as reading a newspaper or is it a digital source? I’d guess the latter but the article didn’t say.

Anyhow, bottom line is if you don’t know sh1t or you get your “news” from Uncle Cletus’ social media feeds, you’re probably a Trumper

Ignoring the Cletus of your side on this board, BeachBlade, I think there probably is more support for Trump among people who don't follow politics closely.  They aren't told 24/7 by the MSM about the mean OMB guy.

I would add the online versions of those Leftist rags to "newspaper." But I still don't think a lot of 23 yr olds are paying for subscriptions and reading them daily.

[BeachGuy23 642]

2 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Ignoring the Cletus of your side on this board, BeachBlade, I think there probably is more support for Trump among people who don't follow politics closely.  They aren't told 24/7 by the MSM about the mean OMB guy.

I would add the online versions of those Leftist rags to "newspaper." But I still don't think a lot of 23 yr olds are paying for subscriptions and reading them daily.

LOL

Must suck to get destroyed daily by "Cletus" boyo.

btw, how's that data that Biden changed Israel policy based on student protests (as you put forward) working out for you?  You still putting opinion pieces forward as data?

I do enjoy humiliating you, that's true enough. 

[jerryskids 6,558]

3 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said:

You questioned the validity of the poll based on your age related feelz.  You're questioning something the OP's poll doesn't even try to address.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Keep digging Mr. Salesman, thank god you weren't allowed to design anything...SMH

Good gravy...

I literally gave you a link with the age data.

My new name for you is BeachBlade.  Hmm... yup...

Also I have 5 US patents.  You may have figured out the IRR on an investment once.  I wouldn't go down that path.  But you will.  Hmm... yup...

[BeachGuy23 642]

Just now, jerryskids said:

I literally gave you a link with the age data.

My new name for you is BeachBlade.  Hmm... yup...

Also I have 5 US patents.  You may have figured out the IRR on an investment once.  I wouldn't go down that path.  But you will.  Hmm... yup...

The OP's poll has NOTHING to do with age moron...Holy moly how dense can one moron get?

You brought in the age issue based on nothing but your Feelz.

And IDGAF if you have 50 US patents.  Your work here clearly shows you're an idiot with no strong grasp of what facts and data are all about.

"hur dur I wouldn't go down that path hur dur"

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

[jerryskids 6,558]

8 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said:

The OP's poll has NOTHING to do with age moron...Holy moly how dense can one moron get?

You brought in the age issue based on nothing but your Feelz.

And IDGAF if you have 50 US patents.  Your work here clearly shows you're an idiot with no strong grasp of what facts and data are all about.

"hur dur I wouldn't go down that path hur dur"

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

I've explained why age is relevant, you are too dense to get it.  Here, fine.  Social media users by age:

 

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Social media usage by age

According to new data from eMarketer, most U.S. social media users are between the ages of 27 and 42 and fall under the Millennial generation. With 68.5 million Millennials using social media in the U.S., this group accounts for nearly one-third (30.3%) of all U.S. social media users. The next closest age group by usage is Gen Z (ages 11-26), with 56.4 million social media users, followed by Gen X (ages 43-58), with 51.8 million users. Baby Boomers between the ages of 59 and 77 are the age group with the lowest social media usage, with only 36.9 million users.

 

https://khoros.com/resources/social-media-demographics-guide

Summary:  Younger people consume more social media. 

I've already shown data in an earlier link regarding age vs. candidate support.

All of this data is inconsistent with "data" that Biden supporters (who are older) get more info from social media.

An adult in a conversation might show why they disagree with my concerns.  But not you, BeachBlade.

Hmm... yup...

 

 

[Bill E. 703]

Most of the people that I know that read newspapers and watch the network news are in their 80's  Some are as young as 70.   And your poll says that these informed voters like Biden?  Shocking!!!

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1 hour ago, BeachGuy23 said:

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

When did all this "blocking" of information start boyo?

But cultist Karen with her youtube or twitter feed are giving it to you straight right?  Doesn't bother you they have zero training, education, nor checks and balances?

No of course it doesn't.

Remember to not take your kid to a trained surgeon.  Training and education BAD.

Start with hunter biden laptop. How about Covid. That was your team  

Constant lies of the media. You claim to be intelligent yet don’t even know the lies they spread to involve us in every war.  You like dead Americans 

[Bill E. 703]

34 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

I've explained why age is relevant, you are too dense to get it.  Here, fine.  Social media users by age:

 

https://khoros.com/resources/social-media-demographics-guide

Summary:  Younger people consume more social media. 

I've already shown data in an earlier link regarding age vs. candidate support.

All of this data is inconsistent with "data" that Biden supporters (who are older) get more info from social media.

An adult in a conversation might show why they disagree with my concerns.  But not you, BeachBlade.

Hmm... yup...

 

 

I get most of my news from a fantasy football website.  What must that say about me?

[jerryskids 6,558]

9 minutes ago, Bill E. said:

I get most of my news from a fantasy football website.  What must that say about me?

You have a 10 inch shlong, make a million dollars a year, and win all of your fantasy leagues.   

[Bill E. 703]

Just now, jerryskids said:

You have a 10 inch shlong, make a million dollars a year, and win all of your fantasy leagues.   

Actually my wife makes most of the money.  She is a supermodel you know?

[jerryskids 6,558]

33 minutes ago, Bill E. said:

Actually my wife makes most of the money.  She is a supermodel you know?

Forgot that, good point.   

[GutterBoy 2,898]

4 hours ago, Strike said:

WTF are you talking about, or are you just doing another one of your drive by's?

You just repeated all of Trump's talking points.

[GutterBoy 2,898]

This all started in 2016 when Trump told everyone that the MSM was fake news.  He spent the last 10 years sowing seeds of distrust with credible news organizations, telling his followers that he is the only one to be trusted.  Classic fascist move for anyone that knows history.

So now you have an army of sycophants that thinks that these alternative news sites like oan and Gateway pundit are the real news.

It's really is sad.

[GutterBoy 2,898]

3 hours ago, jerryskids said:

 

Also, I noticed a glaring omission of TikTok.  If you know 20-somethings (I have three of them), this is where they get the bulk of their info.  And the platform is a Left-wing echo chamber.

Oh please.  Tik Tok is not a left wing echo chamber, it's an echo chamber for whatever you are.  There are tons of right wing garbage on tik Tok, and once you start consuming, it's shoved right down your throat, same as left wing.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,923]

14 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

This all started in 2016 when Trump told everyone that the MSM was fake news.  He spent the last 10 years sowing seeds of distrust with credible news organizations, telling his followers that he is the only one to be trusted.  Classic fascist move for anyone that knows history.

So now you have an army of sycophants that thinks that these alternative news sites like oan and Gateway pundit are the real news.

It's really is sad.

This is quite amusing coming from you.  You were lambasting the media well before Trump came along. 
 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,830]

10 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Oh please.  Tik Tok is not a left wing echo chamber, it's an echo chamber for whatever you are.  There are tons of right wing garbage on tik Tok, and once you start consuming, it's shoved right down your throat, same as left wing.

Cultists like you gonna' cult, I guess.

[The Real timschochet 6,406]

16 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Cultists like you gonna' cult, I guess.

There is no one in this forum more cultist than you. Earlier today you compared American liberals to Stalinists and Maoists. And this is the sort of absurd nonsense you spew here on a daily basis. You have literally swallowed extreme right wing talking points whole. Everything you post is not only ridiculous but completely predictable. I could write every one of your posts. 

[jerryskids 6,558]

35 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Oh please.  Tik Tok is not a left wing echo chamber, it's an echo chamber for whatever you are.  There are tons of right wing garbage on tik Tok, and once you start consuming, it's shoved right down your throat, same as left wing.

Wrong.  TikTok is "majoritarian," amplifying what overall users are engaging with.  To quote Vox, a Lefty site, regarding pro palestinian vs. Israel content:

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To claim that TikTok is intentionally spoon-feeding pro-Palestine videos to young people is to misunderstand what TikTok is, who uses it, and what those people are already more likely to believe. Of TikTok’s estimated 150 million US monthly active users, about 60 percent are between the ages of 16 to 24, and another 26 percent are between 25 and 44. It is an app dominated by young people, and young people happen to sympathize with Palestine.

This is the best case, favorable interpretation, which presumes that China is not pushing a narrative.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,830]

14 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

There is no one in this forum more cultist than you. Earlier today you compared American liberals to Stalinists and Maoists. And this is the sort of absurd nonsense you spew here on a daily basis. You have literally swallowed extreme right wing talking points whole. Everything you post is not only ridiculous but completely predictable. I could write every one of your posts. 

Yeah, okay, Tim. You're the one that regurgitates the Daily Talking Points from the DNC all day long but I'm the cultist.  Although, to be fair, you do seem to have a bit more intellect than the rest of the lefty Marxistbots we have in this forum.

And if you don't think your party is moving further and further left every election, you're delusional.  The Squad is but one example.  Your side of the aisle has not only supported, but elected the Marxists into office at the State, Federal and Local positions.  And also supported every violent protest from BLM/Antifa to Pro-Hamas/Anti-Israel protests.  We don't have a far-right problem in this country, we have a far-left problem - and that's not even debatable. 

[GutterBoy 2,898]

54 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Wrong.  TikTok is "majoritarian," amplifying what overall users are engaging with.  To quote Vox, a Lefty site, regarding pro palestinian vs. Israel content:

This is the best case, favorable interpretation, which presumes that China is not pushing a narrative.

This doesn't mean it's a left wing echo chamber.  I'm not sure you understand what that means or how the tik Tok algorithm works.

If you start liking right wing content, then you will see more right wing content.  Get it?

[The Real timschochet 6,406]

55 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Yeah, okay, Tim. You're the one that regurgitates the Daily Talking Points from the DNC all day long but I'm the cultist.  Although, to be fair, you do seem to have a bit more intellect than the rest of the lefty Marxistbots we have in this forum.

And if you don't think your party is moving further and further left every election, you're delusional.  The Squad is but one example.  Your side of the aisle has not only supported, but elected the Marxists into office at the State, Federal and Local positions.  And also supported every violent protest from BLM/Antifa to Pro-Hamas/Anti-Israel protests.  We don't have a far-right problem in this country, we have a far-left problem - and that's not even debatable. 

Name some legislation sponsored by the Squad that has passed Congress, 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,830]

18 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Name some legislation sponsored by the Squad that has passed Congress, 

This is irrelevant.  YOU'VE elected them.  That's step 1.

And it's not "just" The Squad.  You have your Marxists ingrained in our institutions of higher learning, judges, DA's at all levels of government.   The problems we have today are directly related to that.

[jerryskids 6,558]

18 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

This doesn't mean it's a left wing echo chamber.  I'm not sure you understand what that means or how the tik Tok algorithm works.

If you start liking right wing content, then you will see more right wing content.  Get it?

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Edelson says the high number of general posts and views per general post is “fairly similar” to what happens on the platform following any major news event. She notes that TikTok is unique among social media platforms. Rather than amplifying the most extreme voices, it is “majoritarian,” she says.

“TikTok wants to find the most popular thing and then show that most popular thing as widely as possible,” Edelson says.

https://news.northeastern.edu/2024/05/10/israel-hamas-tiktok-research/

Now, if you engage there for long enough, and manage to ferret out the small minority of conservative content, then yes, the algorithm will direct more of that to you.  

But that does not change my point that TikTok was omitted from the OP poll, and that the vast majority of TikTok users are young, Biden supporters.

And I'll add:  if you were a conservative with strong political convictions, would you engage long and heavily on political topics within a platform that has minimal such content?

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,830]

1 minute ago, jerryskids said:

https://news.northeastern.edu/2024/05/10/israel-hamas-tiktok-research/

Now, if you engage there for long enough, and manage to ferret out the small minority of conservative content, then yes, the algorithm will direct more of that to you.  

But that does not change my point that TikTok was omitted from the OP poll, and that the vast majority of TikTok users are young, Biden supporters.

And I'll add:  if you were a conservative with strong political convictions, would you engage long and heavily on political topics within a platform that has minimal such content?

Everybody knows TikTok is mostly populated with AARP people.  Young kids are hardly on the platform.  Pfffft!!!!

And the MSM isn't biased towards liberals either - it's mostly Conservative.

[TBayXXXVII 2,482]

7 hours ago, IGotWorms said:

And the polls prove it:

 

In April, NBC News released a national pollbreaking the race down by where respondents got their news. Biden led by 49 points among voters who relied on newspapers. He led by 20 points among voters relying on national network news. In the slightly archaic-sounding category of “digital websites,” Biden led by 10 points.

Among voters who rely on social media, Trump led by four points. Among voters who rely on cable news, Trump led by eight. Voters who get their news from YouTube and Google favor Trump by 16 points. And voters who don’t follow political news at all favor Trump by 26 points.

 

 

If you’re smart and like to read stuff, Biden is your guy. But if you’re 

Always entertaining to see you American hating Communists rally around each other. 

[GutterBoy 2,898]

14 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

https://news.northeastern.edu/2024/05/10/israel-hamas-tiktok-research/

Now, if you engage there for long enough, and manage to ferret out the small minority of conservative content, then yes, the algorithm will direct more of that to you.  

But that does not change my point that TikTok was omitted from the OP poll, and that the vast majority of TikTok users are young, Biden supporters.

And I'll add:  if you were a conservative with strong political convictions, would you engage long and heavily on political topics within a platform that has minimal such content?

I still don't think you understand.  Tiktok is not a left wing echo chamber.  If you follow right wing content, you will get more right wing content.  It's an echo chamber of whatever you like.  There is plenty of right wing content on there to keep any maga happy.

[jerryskids 6,558]

1 hour ago, GutterBoy said:

I still don't think you understand.  Tiktok is not a left wing echo chamber.  If you follow right wing content, you will get more right wing content.  It's an echo chamber of whatever you like.  There is plenty of right wing content on there to keep any maga happy.

I understand perfectly.  My post captured it.

Your thoughts on my point?

Quote

But that does not change my point that TikTok was omitted from the OP poll, and that the vast majority of TikTok users are young, Biden supporters.

 

[BeachGuy23 642]

4 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

I understand perfectly.  My post captured it.

Your thoughts on my point?

 

Why do you believe tik tok was excluded?  To clarify, why are you drawing the conclusion tik tok users weren’t polled?

[The Real timschochet 6,406]

1 hour ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

This is irrelevant.  YOU'VE elected them.  That's step 1.

And it's not "just" The Squad.  You have your Marxists ingrained in our institutions of higher learning, judges, DA's at all levels of government.   The problems we have today are directly related to that.

First off my point was that the Squad is irrelevant. Fox News makes a bigger deal out of them than Democrats do. There have always been leftist Democrats and they have always been a minority. I know you want to see it some other way, but all you have to do is look at Bernie Sanders’ proposals over the last decade and see how many of them have actually been enacted. I will tell you: none. Even when the Democrats have had power, what have they accomplished? Moderate liberal centrist stuff. That’s it. No socialism, nothing even close. 

But you made another gross error by trying to compare our socialists like AOC or Bernie with Stalin and Mao. The leftists in our country are Social Democrats, Mensheviks. Democracy being the key. If they had lived in Russia they would have opposed Stalin and they would have been liquidated. Rather than compare them to Communist murderers it is far more apt to compare them to the murdered. 

[GutterBoy 2,898]

7 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

I understand perfectly.  My post captured it.

Your thoughts on my point?

 

Vast majority are young Biden supporters?

Where did you get that data from?

I did find this...

https://backlinko.com/tiktok-users

Majority is users over age 24.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,923]

Looks like Trump is gonna take Nevada and Georgia. 

[Beaker15 233]

Always great to see Daulton continue to get owned in these threads.  Thank you Jerry!  

[jerryskids 6,558]

8 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Vast majority are young Biden supporters?

Where did you get that data from?

I did find this...

https://backlinko.com/tiktok-users

Majority is users over age 24.

I already posted the text from Vox, but I apologize for omitting the link.

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To claim that TikTok is intentionally spoon-feeding pro-Palestine videos to young people is to misunderstand what TikTok is, who uses it, and what those people are already more likely to believe. Of TikTok’s estimated 150 million US monthly active users, about 60 percent are between the ages of 16 to 24, and another 26 percent are between 25 and 44. It is an app dominated by young people, and young people happen to sympathize with Palestine.

https://www.vox.com/culture/23997305/tiktok-palestine-israel-gaza-war

Your link disagrees:  says 40% under 24, 65% under 35.

Seriously, why are you wasting our time about whether most TikTok users are under 24 or 28?  What is the gotcha here?

 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,923]

Cardi B won’t endorse Biden this time. Is she uninformed  now too? Her quote “layers of disappointment “. Lol. 

[GutterBoy 2,898]

9 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

I already posted the text from Vox, but I apologize for omitting the link.

https://www.vox.com/culture/23997305/tiktok-palestine-israel-gaza-war

Your link disagrees:  says 40% under 24, 65% under 35.

Seriously, why are you wasting our time about whether most TikTok users are under 24 or 28?  What is the gotcha here?

 

Dude, it's your point.  I don't give a fock about the ages of tiktok users.  I only corrected you on your statement that tiktok is a left wing echo chamber because you didn't understand how the algorithm works.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,830]

28 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

First off my point was that the Squad is irrelevant. Fox News makes a bigger deal out of them than Democrats do. There have always been leftist Democrats and they have always been a minority. I know you want to see it some other way, but all you have to do is look at Bernie Sanders’ proposals over the last decade and see how many of them have actually been enacted. I will tell you: none. Even when the Democrats have had power, what have they accomplished? Moderate liberal centrist stuff. That’s it. No socialism, nothing even close. 

But you made another gross error by trying to compare our socialists like AOC or Bernie with Stalin and Mao. The leftists in our country are Social Democrats, Mensheviks. Democracy being the key. If they had lived in Russia they would have opposed Stalin and they would have been liquidated. Rather than compare them to Communist murderers it is far more apt to compare them to the murdered. 

Sorry, Tim.  You're incredibly wrong here.

They're not mencheviks. They're Bolsheviks through and through. All they need is a little more power and with every election you keep electing more and more of them.

The end result with either Bolsheviks or Mencheviks is communism, anyways.  

[jerryskids 6,558]

34 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said:

Why do you believe tik tok was excluded?  To clarify, why are you drawing the conclusion tik tok users weren’t polled?

I presume that NBC want to make a point and that including TikTok would not have helped them.

[GutterBoy 2,898]

5 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

I presume that NBC want to make a point and that including TikTok would not have helped them.

Who says tiktok was excluded?  They list social media as an option which would include tiktok.

Also why the obsession with tiktok? 

[jerryskids 6,558]

12 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Who says tiktok was excluded?  They list social media as an option which would include tiktok.

Also why the obsession with tiktok? 

Why call out the others but not TikTok?

[GutterBoy 2,898]

7 hours ago, jerryskids said:

Why call out the others but not TikTok?

I didn't see any "others" called out.  I reread the article again and sure enough there was no social media called out.  I then clicked into the poll report itself, and saw on page 20 they specifically called out tiktok along with x, Facebook, etc.

What's your issue?