Anyone want to do a pool for when Paul Skenes has tommy john or shoulder surgery?

[edjr 6,578]

 

July 2025

[thegeneral 2,913]

Shut your hoar mouth. He’s here to save my fantasy team.

[edjr 6,578]

1 minute ago, thegeneral said:

Shut your hoar mouth. He’s here to save my fantasy team.

I said 2025. Are you in a dynasty league?

[HellToupee 1,588]

Unfortunately you have to factor TJ into many of today’s power pitchers 

[Tree of Knowledge 1,705]

I’ll take next April. 
 

I ready something about a month ago that the UCL does not fully mature until about early to mid 20’s in many males.  The emphasis on velocity and spin rate at young ages is causing all these elbow problems.  Baseball looks for the next Nolan Ryan instead of the next Greg Maddox. 

[thegeneral 2,913]

4 minutes ago, edjr said:

I said 2025. Are you in a dynasty league?

In my organization we don’t like to tempt fate by even discussing the procedure. 

[HellToupee 1,588]

Make spider tack legal in MLB

[edjr 6,578]

1 minute ago, Tree of Knowledge said:

I’ll take next April. 
 

I ready something about a month ago that the UCL does not fully mature until about early to mid 20’s in many males.  The emphasis on velocity and spin rate at young ages is causing all these elbow problems.  Baseball looks for the next Nolan Ryan instead of the next Greg Maddox. 

Of course it is. but the liberal nitwits that only allow kids, 60 pitches every 3rd thursday of the month, think that will stop kids from ruining their arms

[Tree of Knowledge 1,705]

8 minutes ago, edjr said:

Of course it is. but the liberal nitwits that only allow kids, 60 pitches every 3rd thursday of the month, think that will stop kids from ruining their arms

Just throwing strikes and location is a lost art.  

[TBayXXXVII 2,484]

The difference between Skenes and a lot of pitchers is that he wasn't really a pitcher until he was 20 years old.  In high school, he was first and foremost a catcher.  He only pitched occasionally, an inning or two here and there.  In his Jr year of HS (2019), he pitched 3 innings during the season and 7 innings in a playoff game.  That was it.  His SR yr (2020... obviously COVID year), he only threw 27 innings.  In Perfect Game Showcases and travel ball, he primarily caught and hit.  He only pitched occasionally.  When he got to Air Force, he pitched only 26 innings his freshman year and 85 his sophomore year.  In an interview pre-MLB 2023 draft, he said that prior to that year, from high school up, he totaled less than 85 IP.  He has no where near the wear and tear on his arm, shoulder, and body that pitchers do by this point.

After the 2023 college and pro year, he said his total IP... in his LIFE, is less than 300.  As a frame of reference, in college along, Strausburg threw over 240... willing to bet that in high school and travel ball, he had doubled that number.  Willing to go out on another limb and say that before Strausburg threw 1 pitch at the ML level, he was around 1000 IP... more than triple what Skenes had.

[TBayXXXVII 2,484]

22 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said:

Just throwing strikes and location is a lost art.  

THIS is a very true statement.

[bostonlager 2,664]

DL by 4th of July. 

[edjr 6,578]

52 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said:

Just throwing strikes and location is a lost art.  

It's all about swings and misses. It amazes me how many batter swing at balls in the dirt.

 

[TBayXXXVII 2,484]

28 minutes ago, edjr said:

It's all about swings and misses. It amazes me how many batter swing at balls in the dirt.

 

Try it from their perspective some time.  You won't be amazed any more.

[edjr 6,578]

23 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Try it from their perspective some time.  You won't be amazed any more.

pffft. I would rake them

[Alias Detective 1,389]

21 minutes ago, edjr said:

pffft. I would rake them

Dude....His sinking fastball is nasty and you wouldn't touch it.  He has great technique, balance and form.  His arm may just hold up Ed.

[edjr 6,578]

Just now, Alias Detective said:

Dude....His sinking fastball is nasty and you wouldn't touch it.  He has great technique, balance and form.  His arm may just hold up Ed.

I am kidding. I can barely hit a golf ball that is sitting still. 

[Alias Detective 1,389]

Just now, edjr said:

I am kidding. I can barely hit a golf ball that is sitting still. 

:thumbs up:

[TBayXXXVII 2,484]

2 minutes ago, edjr said:

I am kidding. I can barely hit a golf ball that is sitting still. 

Sheesh, even I can do that!!!  Though, I can't guarantee it goes straight.  I've been known to hit a few perpendicular and backwards.  Also had a few times where the club went further than the ball.

[TBayXXXVII 2,484]

27 minutes ago, edjr said:

pffft. I would rake them

[edjr 6,578]

1 minute ago, TBayXXXVII said:

I am no digby. 

[TBayXXXVII 2,484]

1 minute ago, edjr said:

I am no digby. 

None of us are. 

[SUXBNME 1,457]

2 hours ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Try it from their perspective some time.  You won't be amazed any more.

 

[kilroy69 1,216]

He is banging livy dunn. Who cares what happens to his arm. As long as he can still pound that like a drum he will be golden. 

[Gepetto 1,289]

Don't say that! I just dropped $500 on his 2023 Bowman Chrome 1st Bowman Prospect Autograph card graded Gem Mint.

[Gepetto 1,289]

He has barely pitched in his lifetime. He was not a pitcher when he was growing up playing baseball until recently, two years in college I think.

[thegeneral 2,913]

STUD

[edjr 6,578]

4 hours ago, thegeneral said:

STUD

the OP?

[edjr 6,578]

On 5/24/2024 at 8:43 PM, Gepetto said:

He has barely pitched in his lifetime. He was not a pitcher when he was growing up playing baseball until recently, two years in college I think.

great point by you. neither was I and I have never had major surgery

[Gepetto 1,289]

11 minutes ago, edjr said:

great point by you. neither was I and I have never had major surgery

Point is he should have less of a chance to injury his ucl than other pitchers that have been throwing smoke since age 12.

Of course, EVERIY pitcher in the mlb so including Skenes is a risk for injury, all of them.

[thegeneral 2,913]

1 hour ago, edjr said:

the OP?

You aren’t doing anything for my fantasy team, pal!

[thegeneral 2,913]

If you like this kid find his interview today on the Dan Patrick show. All-Star manager called in mid interview to announce he was starting the game next week. Was very cool. Great kid.

[cmh6476 1,010]

 

[edjr 6,578]

2 minutes ago, cmh6476 said:

 

Pedro blew out his arm when he started the 1999 ASG 

[thegeneral 2,913]

6 minutes ago, cmh6476 said:

 

The best part is at about the 5:30 mark, the interview has been done for like a minute and they realize the Skenes is just hanging out on Zoom because he doesn’t know what to do