Mike Honcho 5,087 Posted May 24, 2024 7 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said: I tune in to Fox and Newsmax from time to time, and it's amazing how much of all that propaganda and unsubstantiated nonsense gets parroted here and on social media. Relatively small negative aspects of the economy get hypercatastrophized while the stock market, job growth, GDP, CPI, higher wages and true economic indicators get swept under the carpet in favor of crappy and poorly run restaurant chains going down the toilet or that poor people should be magically rich if the economy was doing well. Focking stupidity, ignorance and lack of basic common sense. It's where to get, up-to-the-minute breaking news on assassination plots against the former President. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,184 Posted May 24, 2024 34 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Isn’t it the righties saying that the average Joe doesn’t invest in the stock market and that’s why it shouldn’t be an indication of a healthy economy? Who of course also say that stock price is why Disney is failing. I wouldn't know. I don't affiliate with a political ideology. I care about issues. I've always said anyone with a 401k or similar invests in the stock market. But lefties constantly say the little guy doesn't. Then they your the market to say the economy is doing well for.people. you can't have it both ways libs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,889 Posted May 24, 2024 2 minutes ago, Strike said: I wouldn't know. I don't affiliate with a political ideology. I care about issues. I've always said anyone with a 401k or similar invests in the stock market. But lefties constantly say the little guy doesn't. Then they your the market to say the economy is doing well for.people. you can't have it both ways libs. This has nothing to do with being misinformed about something that is black and white. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,600 Posted May 24, 2024 3 minutes ago, Strike said: you can't have it both ways libs. Agreed, kinda like the people that say the stock market doesn’t mean the economy is healthy but also that a falling stock price means Disney is failing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,404 Posted May 24, 2024 9 minutes ago, Strike said: I wouldn't know. I don't affiliate with a political ideology. I care about issues. I've always said anyone with a 401k or similar invests in the stock market. But lefties constantly say the little guy doesn't. Then they your the market to say the economy is doing well for.people. you can't have it both ways libs. Kind of like you saying that you don't affiliate with a political ideology and then making unsubstantiated negative comments about "lefties" and "libs." 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,404 Posted May 24, 2024 4 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Agreed, kinda like the people that say the stock market doesn’t mean the economy is healthy but also that a falling stock price means Disney is failing More like the stock market as a whole skyrocketing but claiming the economy is in the crapper because Red Lobster filed for bankruptcy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,600 Posted May 24, 2024 1 minute ago, Pimpadeaux said: Kind of like you saying that you don't affiliate with a political ideology and then makeing unsubstantiated negative comments about "lefties" and "libs." Yup, he’s a clown. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,184 Posted May 24, 2024 3 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said: Kind of like you saying that you don't affiliate with a political ideology and then makeing unsubstantiated negative comments about "lefties" and "libs." You suggesting lefties haven't been saying that? You were gone a long time. Lefties have absolutely been saying that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,404 Posted May 24, 2024 20 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Yup, he’s a clown. His poorly written sentences didn't even make sense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,404 Posted May 24, 2024 1 minute ago, Strike said: You suggesting lefties haven't been saying that? You were gone a long time. Lefties have absolutely been saying that. I'm saying you clearly identify with a political affiliation by isolating "lefties" for criticism. Other than that, I don't know what the hell you're talking about. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 3,828 Posted May 24, 2024 11 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Agreed, kinda like the people that say the stock market doesn’t mean the economy is healthy but also that a falling stock price means Disney is failing Well, to be fair, losing 20 billion in stock value is a pretty big deal, no? That kind of is the definition of "failing". If it was only a couple dollars it wouldn't be a big deal but 20 billion is a pretty big deal. And that's just stock value. They've pretty much LOST money on every movie and TV show they've put out since 2020 too (hence, the stock drop). investors don't see that 20 billion drop plus losses on al their movies and TV shows as a plus, even if their parks made money. They didn't lose 20 billion because they're doing good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted May 24, 2024 4 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: Well, to be fair, losing 20 billion in stock value is a pretty big deal, no? That kind of is the definition of "failing". If it was only a couple dollars it wouldn't be a big deal but 20 billion is a pretty big deal. And that's just stock value. They've pretty much LOST money on every movie and TV show they've put out since 2020 too (hence, the stock drop). investors don't see that 20 billion drop plus losses on al their movies and TV shows as a plus, even if their parks made money. They didn't lose 20 billion because they're doing good. When you have a market cap of $185B, 10% is not that big of a deal. And they didn't lose $20B you focking idiot. You don't understand market cap. Disney made $89B in revenue in 2023. That's not failing you clown. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,184 Posted May 24, 2024 13 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said: His poorly written sentences didn't even make sense, and he doesn't think there have been 46 presidents, even though Clownzo commonly was referred to as "45." Are you talking about me re your discussion of number of Presidents? If so, can you provide a link? Pretty sure I didn't participate in that slap fight. So please support that assertion or retract it reporter boy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,404 Posted May 24, 2024 9 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: Well, to be fair, losing 20 billion in stock value is a pretty big deal, no? That kind of is the definition of "failing". If it was only a couple dollars it wouldn't be a big deal but 20 billion is a pretty big deal. And that's just stock value. They've pretty much LOST money on every movie and TV show they've put out since 2020 too (hence, the stock drop). investors don't see that 20 billion drop plus losses on al their movies and TV shows as a plus, even if their parks made money. They didn't lose 20 billion because they're doing good. Have you ever contemplated the fact that companies that make bad decisions can lose stock value and go bankrupt even in great economies? Clownzo's tariffs on China caused the stock market to lose around 1,000 points in one day and caused a lot of suffering for U.S. businesses. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 3,828 Posted May 24, 2024 3 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: When you have a market cap of $185B, 10% is not that big of a deal. And they didn't lose $20B you focking idiot. You don't understand market cap. Disney made $89B in revenue in 2023. That's not failing you clown. $20 billion. That’s how much market value Disney lost Tuesday, roughly equivalent to the total market capitalization of entertainment rival and HBO parent WarnerBros Discovery. Who's the idiot now, you dumb f'n moron. Thank god you only bag groceries for a living. I can't imagine you in charge of anything, especially something that concerns money and finances. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,404 Posted May 24, 2024 4 minutes ago, Strike said: Are you talking about me re your discussion of number of Presidents? If so, can you provide a link? Pretty sure I didn't participate in that slap fight. So please support that assertion or retract it reporter boy. Sorry, I got my MAGAturds mixed up. That was supermike. I edited out that comment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,600 Posted May 24, 2024 18 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: Well, to be fair, losing 20 billion in stock value is a pretty big deal, no? That kind of is the definition of "failing". If it was only a couple dollars it wouldn't be a big deal but 20 billion is a pretty big deal. And that's just stock value. They've pretty much LOST money on every movie and TV show they've put out since 2020 too (hence, the stock drop). investors don't see that 20 billion drop plus losses on al their movies and TV shows as a plus, even if their parks made money. They didn't lose 20 billion because they're doing good. Good to know you think the economy is doing great. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted May 24, 2024 7 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: $20 billion. That’s how much market value Disney lost Tuesday, roughly equivalent to the total market capitalization of entertainment rival and HBO parent WarnerBros Discovery. Who's the idiot now, you dumb f'n moron. Thank god you only bag groceries for a living. I can't imagine you in charge of anything, especially something that concerns money and finances. You're still the idiot. Like I said you don't understand market cap. Disney didn't lose that money. Market cap is the total number of shares outstanding multiplied by the price. Market cap fluctuates based on price. It's the shareholders value, but nobody loses or gains anything until they sell. Market cap is not revenue. You're not qualified to have these discussions. Please stay out of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 3,828 Posted May 24, 2024 1 minute ago, GutterBoy said: You're still the idiot. Like I said you don't understand market cap. Disney didn't lose that money. Market cap is the total number of shares outstanding multiplied by the price. Market cap fluctuates based on price. It's the shareholders value, but nobody loses or gains anything until they sell. Market cap is not revenue. You're not qualified to have these discussions. Please stay out of it. GutterBoy: Losing 20 Billion is actually making money and a sign that a company is doing well. Also GutterBoy: Losing over 1 Billion on movies and TV shows is also a sign a company is doing well. The only person not qualified to speak on this issue and, in fact, ANY issue is you. You're clearly so invested in your glory hole propaganda you can't even think on your own. Of course, that's nothing new as we've known that for quite some time now but it's reassuring to know you've at least confirmed it. In the meantime, you should head over to the Weenie Hut Jr forums down the road. That's more your style as you'll be able to fool all of the 3-5 year olds and show them how "smart" you are. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 3,828 Posted May 24, 2024 8 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Good to know you think the economy is doing great. Wait, wut? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted May 24, 2024 2 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: GutterBoy: Losing 20 Billion is actually making money and a sign that a company is doing well. Also GutterBoy: Losing over 1 Billion on movies and TV shows is also a sign a company is doing well. The only person not qualified to speak on this issue and, in fact, ANY issue is you. You're clearly so invested in your glory hole propaganda you can't even think on your own. Of course, that's nothing new as we've known that for quite some time now but it's reassuring to know you've at least confirmed it. In the meantime, you should head over to the Weenie Hut Jr forums down the road. That's more your style as you'll be able to fool all of the 3-5 year olds and show them how "smart" you are. Throws the gun Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,600 Posted May 24, 2024 5 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: Wait, wut? It’s sad, but funny that you can’t see your hypocrisy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,123 Posted May 24, 2024 2 hours ago, thegeneral said: It’s not that it’s just up over the past year, it’s up a crazy amount where it is expected and normal for it to drop - even dramatically. Major indexes are like at like 20-30% over this period which is wild. This may be more of an overall ignorance about the stock market but it’s nonetheless a black and white figure that everyone can click on their phones in two seconds. Same for unemployment figures. Why this is the case is fascinating to me. It’s too early for me to find some Pink Floyd quotes but I’m sure there are some that would work here So, so you think you can tell Heaven from hell? Blue skies from pain? Can you tell a green field From a cold steel rail? A smile from a veil? Do you think you can tell? Did they get you to trade Your heroes for ghosts? Hot ashes for trees? Hot air for a cool breeze? Cold comfort for change? Did you exchange A walk-on part in the war For a lead role in a cage? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 3,828 Posted May 24, 2024 44 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: Throws the gun You brought a knife to a gun fight. Best you go back to rock you came out from under. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 3,828 Posted May 24, 2024 40 minutes ago, TimHauck said: It’s sad, but funny that you can’t see your hypocrisy I think you're reading into things that aren't there again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,600 Posted May 24, 2024 9 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: I think you're reading into things that aren't there again. No, that’s you, like when you said this and still haven’t backed it up: 3 hours ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: Imagine having the audacity to tell people they aren't feeling and experiencing any economic pain because they used the wrong word. Yeah, we actually have posters in here saying that. If you think a declining stock price is “the definition of failing” like you said for Disney, then the economy is doing great. Unlike you, my views are consistent. Disney is not failing and the current economy is not great. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted May 24, 2024 3 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: You brought a knife to a gun fight. Best you go back to rock you came out from under. So let me get this straight, do you understand the difference between market cap and revenue? Do you think that if Disney stock goes down $1/share, that Disney is losing $1.8M? Conversely, if the stock goes up $1/share, does Disney make $1.8M? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 3,828 Posted May 24, 2024 2 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: So let me get this straight, do you understand the difference between market cap and revenue? Do you think that if Disney stock goes down $1/share, that Disney is losing $1.8M? Conversely, if the stock goes up $1/share, does Disney make $1.8M? Dude even the Forbes article says thats not good and is a big number. You're trying so hard and failing here. Can't stand that you're losing bigly here You remind of the poster above who said that people aren't suffering and experiencing hardship because they used the wrong word. Oh, wait, that is you too! Time to step away form this forum for good. You can't think on your own. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 3,828 Posted May 24, 2024 13 minutes ago, TimHauck said: No, that’s you, like when you said this and still haven’t backed it up: If you think a declining stock price is “the definition of failing” like you said for Disney, then the economy is doing great. Unlike you, my views are consistent. Disney is not failing and the current economy is not great. Wait...you think a declining stock price isn't failing? Wut? Maybe you should talk to Fisker and let them know they're winning too! You need to step away with GutterD0uche too. You're also having issues understanding things. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,600 Posted May 24, 2024 Just now, EternalShinyAndChrome said: Wait...you think a declining stock price isn't failing? Wut? What’s an increasing stock price then? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,600 Posted May 24, 2024 5 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: You remind of the poster above who said that people aren't suffering and experiencing hardship because they used the wrong word. Oh, wait, that is you too! No one said this, liar. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted May 24, 2024 13 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: Dude even the Forbes article says thats not good and is a big number. You're trying so hard and failing here. Can't stand that you're losing bigly here You remind of the poster above who said that people aren't suffering and experiencing hardship because they used the wrong word. Oh, wait, that is you too! Time to step away form this forum for good. You can't think on your own. OK so you've gotten to the point where you won't answer my simple question. You either don't understand what you're saying, or you've realized you're wrong. Either way, I'm thoroughly dressed you down enough to where everyone knows you're not smart and full of sh1t. I mean I know people that aren't smart, but at least they're smart enough to know they're not smart. You're not even smart enough for that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 3,828 Posted May 24, 2024 Just now, GutterBoy said: OK so you've gotten to the point where you won't answer my simple question. You either don't understand what you're saying, or you've realized you're wrong. Either way, I'm thoroughly dressed you down enough to where everyone knows you're not smart and full of sh1t. I mean I know people that aren't smart, but at least they're smart enough to know they're not smart. You're not even smart enough for that. Sorry pal, no amount of revisionist history on your end is going to change the fact that you're a retard. You got served and now you want to move the goalposts. Nice try, but another failure on your part. The Forbes article I linked even said that's bad. But ButterBoy wants to say he knows better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 3,828 Posted May 24, 2024 14 minutes ago, TimHauck said: No one said this, liar. All of you lefties said it. We got posts and posts of you guys saying how stupid people are because they used the word "recession" and how great everything is, just gaffing off people's concerns. Don't try and revise it. Own it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted May 24, 2024 2 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: Sorry pal, no amount of revisionist history on your end is going to change the fact that you're a retard. You got served and now you want to move the goalposts. Nice try, but another failure on your part. The Forbes article I linked even said that's bad. But ButterBoy wants to say he knows better. You didn't even link a forbes article. You're completely unhinged. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 3,828 Posted May 24, 2024 7 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: You didn't even link a forbes article. You're completely unhinged. Yeah, okay. i'm the unhinged one. But you're right about the link: https://www.forbes.com/sites/dereksaul/2024/05/07/disney-stock-limps-to-worst-day-in-12-months-despite-surprise-disney-profit/?sh=7b5a826074af You best stick to bagging groceries. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted May 24, 2024 14 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: Yeah, okay. i'm the unhinged one. But you're right about the link: https://www.forbes.com/sites/dereksaul/2024/05/07/disney-stock-limps-to-worst-day-in-12-months-despite-surprise-disney-profit/?sh=7b5a826074af You best stick to bagging groceries. You still don't know what market cap means Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 3,828 Posted May 24, 2024 Just now, GutterBoy said: You still don't know what market cap means Forbes says differently. ButterBoy thinks he knows more than Forbes! Nice try moving the goalposts, but you've lost incredibly in here but affirmed just how dumb and retarded you are. Time to head back to the far-left glory hole where you'll need to find out how to respond to my post. Good luck!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted May 24, 2024 20 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: Forbes says differently. ButterBoy thinks he knows more than Forbes! Nice try moving the goalposts, but you've lost incredibly in here but affirmed just how dumb and retarded you are. Time to head back to the far-left glory hole where you'll need to find out how to respond to my post. Good luck!! No, Forbes does not say that you know what market cap means. You don't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeachGuy23 642 Posted May 24, 2024 59 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: Wait...you think a declining stock price isn't failing? Wut? Maybe you should talk to Fisker and let them know they're winning too! You need to step away with GutterD0uche too. You're also having issues understanding things. Was NVIDIA failing two years ago boyo when it's stock went from $330 to $112 in like 10 months? Much bigger % drop than Disney. I guess NVIDIA is out of business now based on the lower stock price ? LMFAO Share this post Link to post Share on other sites