Unisex bathrooms at airport

[DonS 3,292]

59 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

From your article, it seems there are urinals in them as well.

 

I mentioned how a larger one near the main concourse did have a urinal room.  Unfortunately they're not all like that. 

[DonS 3,292]

3 hours ago, Strike said:

I was at a concert at Red Rocks a couple weeks ago.  They did the same thing at some point since the last time I was there.

A concert venue without a piss trough for maximum drunk dude throughput???  Sacrilege! 

[jerryskids 6,800]

42 minutes ago, DonS said:

I mentioned how a larger one near the main concourse did have a urinal room.  Unfortunately they're not all like that. 

 

[TimHauck 2,879]

3 hours ago, jerryskids said:

This is hilarious.  Progressives, by their very nature, are angry with [insert status quo topic du jour] and protest to change it.  That's what makes them progressives. 

 

Were trannies or libs for that matter demanding that places add all gender bathrooms?  I thought they just wanted trannies to be able to use the bathroom of the gender they identify with

[GutterBoy 2,899]

8 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Were trannies or libs for that matter demanding that places add all gender bathrooms?  I thought they just wanted trannies to be able to use the bathroom of the gender they identify with

Exactly.  It was once right wing lunatics started acting like babies that this was needed.  if they just shut the fock up and let people go about their business, then everything would have been fine.

[jerryskids 6,800]

7 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Were trannies or libs for that matter demanding that places add all gender bathrooms?  I thought they just wanted trannies to be able to use the bathroom of the gender they identify with

I don't know specifically for Seatac, but from Gutter's article it clearly was a motivation.  And there has been plenty of lobbying for such restrooms in general.

https://www.google.com/search?q=the+push+for+all+gender+bathrooms&oq=the+push+for+all+gender+bathrooms&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIGCAEQRRhA0gEINTI1OWowajeoAgCwAgA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Specific example:

https://gmufourthestate.com/2024/02/07/the-push-for-gender-neutral-bathrooms-on-campus/

[thegeneral 3,218]

Nothing revs the Geeks engines like a tranny bathroom.

[Maximum Overkill 1,998]

Why not just have Men's Rooms, Women's Rooms and a Bathroom for the Mentally ill? 

Problem solved. Why should Women have to deal with Perverts in their bathrooms? 

[jerryskids 6,800]

16 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Why not just have Men's Rooms, Women's Rooms and a Bathroom for the Mentally ill? 

Problem solved. Why should Women have to deal with Perverts in their bathrooms? 

A couple of thoughts on this:

- I wouldn't call it Bathroom for the Mentally Ill, I'll stick with "non-gender".

- It's important to the progressives that women "deal" with it, which is to say, learn to love it.  As has been pointed out before, there aren't that many trans people, so a single non-gender bathroom should be more than sufficient to meet their needs.  But that isn't enough, it needs to be embraced, and trans women (biological men) need to feel 100% accepted, after all.

- Anyone who thinks that individual doored stalls is the same as a row of urinals does not understand queuing theory.  Airport bathrooms are mostly empty, except when flights land, when there is a rush to use them.  Removing urinals will likely create some... issues with this.

[BeachGuy23 642]

14 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Why not just have Men's Rooms, Women's Rooms and a Bathroom for the Mentally ill? 

Problem solved. Why should Women have to deal with Perverts in their bathrooms? 

Agreed. I love them single, lockable mentally ill bathrooms. 

[TimHauck 2,879]

45 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

A couple of thoughts on this:

- I wouldn't call it Bathroom for the Mentally Ill, I'll stick with "non-gender".

- It's important to the progressives that women "deal" with it, which is to say, learn to love it.  As has been pointed out before, there aren't that many trans people, so a single non-gender bathroom should be more than sufficient to meet their needs.  But that isn't enough, it needs to be embraced, and trans women (biological men) need to feel 100% accepted, after all.

Congrats on finding a recommendation from a university for all gender bathrooms.

But this seems like a chicken or the egg situation.  If these requests are actually “widespread,” they’re likely driven by claims of trannies being harassed.  Which is ironic because that’s what righties seem to be afraid of happening to them or their kids.  No one needs to “love” anything about public restrooms.  But I don’t think allowing trannies to use the bathroom they identify with is a big deal since they’ll always be in a stall unless they start installing urinals in womens only bathrooms. Locker rooms however are a different story.

[jerryskids 6,800]

1 hour ago, TimHauck said:

Congrats on finding a recommendation from a university for all gender bathrooms.

But this seems like a chicken or the egg situation.  If these requests are actually “widespread,” they’re likely driven by claims of trannies being harassed.  Which is ironic because that’s what righties seem to be afraid of happening to them or their kids.  No one needs to “love” anything about public restrooms.  But I don’t think allowing trannies to use the bathroom they identify with is a big deal since they’ll always be in a stall unless they start installing urinals in womens only bathrooms. Locker rooms however are a different story.

I'm not clear of your point here.  Obviously you don't disagree with my first point.  And your post doesn't address my second point.

I've stated here recently that I support trans women who have physically transitioned being in women's restrooms.  I see no better way to moderate it, and I don't think that truly gender dysphoric people pose a significant threat to women.  In other words, lopping off your boy parts seems like a pretty large commitment to your belief that you are a woman.

But I maintain that the progressives (mostly upper middle class hetero women IMO, not actual trans people) want trans women in biological women's bathrooms, because that is "full" acceptance.

I agree with you on locker rooms.

[TimHauck 2,879]

8 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

I'm not clear of your point here.  Obviously you don't disagree with my first point.  And your post doesn't address my second point.

I've stated here recently that I support trans women who have physically transitioned being in women's restrooms.  I see no better way to moderate it, and I don't think that truly gender dysphoric people pose a significant threat to women.  In other words, lopping off your boy parts seems like a pretty large commitment to your belief that you are a woman.

But I maintain that the progressives (mostly upper middle class hetero women IMO, not actual trans people) want trans women in biological women's bathrooms, because that is "full" acceptance.

I agree with you on locker rooms.

Sounds like we agree.  I’ll admit I don’t follow polling numbers of trans folks, but if I had to bet, most would say they just want to use the bathroom of the gender they identify with, and not require new all gender bathrooms 

[jerryskids 6,800]

3 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Sounds like we agree.  I’ll admit I don’t follow polling numbers of trans folks, but if I had to bet, most would say they just want to use the bathroom of the gender they identify with, and not require new all gender bathrooms 

I think where we disagree is that, given the relatively few number of trans people, they could use the "family" (or rebranded as "all-gender") restroom that most airports have these days.  

Unless you define "trans" as people who've physically transitioned, as I said in my post.  If you consider men who claim to be women when they woke up this morning as trans, then we disagree.

[supermike80 1,921]

Its so weird that i read this thread and today at dinner, the restrooms were unisex.  4 full door stalls. No urinals.  But the common area was just that..common.  i didnt happen to run into a woman in there and i think it might have been weird if i did.  But thats my first time

[Strike 5,555]

29 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

I think where we disagree is that, given the relatively few number of trans people, they could use the "family" (or rebranded as "all-gender") restroom that most airports have these days.  

Unless you define "trans" as people who've physically transitioned, as I said in my post.  If you consider men who claim to be women when they woke up this morning as trans, then we disagree.

It's not even ALL  the trans people.  It's the subset that are militant in their belief about bathrooms.  I bet even most trannies don't care whether the bathroom they piss in is labeled men or women.  They just want to piss.  The only reason I use the one labeled men is so as not to get arrested and to be respectful of the women folks' space.

[Gepetto 1,368]

I was just at a brewery, and there's a big open area (hall) connecting the brewery, a cafe and other businesses and I went to the bathroom off of the open area and noticed there was a third but I can't remember what it was labeled but it was the one not marked men and not marked women.

[TimHauck 2,879]

9 hours ago, jerryskids said:

I think where we disagree is that, given the relatively few number of trans people, they could use the "family" (or rebranded as "all-gender") restroom that most airports have these days.  

Unless you define "trans" as people who've physically transitioned, as I said in my post.  If you consider men who claim to be women when they woke up this morning as trans, then we disagree.

No I agree with your first paragraph.  My point was I don’t think those airport bathrooms were created because of “demands” from trans folks. 

Never really thought about how I define trans because unlike the Geek Club I don’t really think about trannies much at all.  I’m not sure I’d say they’d need to get the surgery to be called trans, maybe at least be on some sort of hormone medication.

[Engorgeous George 2,331]

14 hours ago, jerryskids said:

A couple of thoughts on this:

- I wouldn't call it Bathroom for the Mentally Ill, I'll stick with "non-gender".

- It's important to the progressives that women "deal" with it, which is to say, learn to love it.  As has been pointed out before, there aren't that many trans people, so a single non-gender bathroom should be more than sufficient to meet their needs.  But that isn't enough, it needs to be embraced, and trans women (biological men) need to feel 100% accepted, after all.

- Anyone who thinks that individual doored stalls is the same as a row of urinals does not understand queuing theory.  Airport bathrooms are mostly empty, except when flights land, when there is a rush to use them.  Removing urinals will likely create some... issues with this.

Most airports have large planters along their concourses filled with foliage.  Problem solved except for keeping the foliage alive.

 

They can use Amsterdam's greenpee model.

[The Real timschochet 6,779]

6 hours ago, TimHauck said:

 I don’t really think about trannies much at all.  

Then you don’t belong in this forum. It’s all we talk about here, 

[thegeneral 3,218]

Just used these. A pleasant toilet experience! There is a whole wall of urinals in there too for those who thought its the end of the world to not be able to stand in someone’s piss splatter

[DonS 3,292]

51 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Just used these. A pleasant toilet experience! There is a whole wall of urinals in there too for those who thought its the end of the world to not be able to stand in someone’s piss splatter

There weren't any urinals at the one I posted about.  In the main terminal, yes, but not all of them.

[thegeneral 3,218]

Just now, DonS said:

There weren't any urinals at the one I posted about.  In the main terminal, yes, but not all of them.

I will gladly use these over the disgusting men’s ones

Although every time I go to SeaTac these days there’s another new walled off construction area and everything that they have redone has been nice. 

[DonS 3,292]

1 minute ago, thegeneral said:

I will gladly use these over the disgusting men’s ones

Although every time I go to SeaTac these days there’s another new walled off construction area and everything that they have redone has been nice. 

Agreed on the remodel.  They did a nice job on N gates.