My son's last day at elementary school is today.

[IGotWorms 4,058]

I think Voltaire misses Xi and should go back to China.

Or maybe trying out Putin? Seems to be right up his alley as well

[GutterBoy 2,899]

28 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

 

Somebody is trolling...  

The answer is that it is both physiology and environment.  Studies have shown that children of gay parents tend to be more gay, as do abused children.  So environment is a known factor.

In recent years, as LGBTQ+ lifestyle has been increasingly celebrated, particularly with young, confused kids, we've seen the explosion of the social contagion factor.

No that is not the answer.  What you struggle with is correlation vs causation.

While it may be true that having homosexual parents results in more homosexual kids, you can't prove causation.  It's possible that having parents accepting of gays means that more kids would be willing to accept that they are gay.  I would bet the number kids out as gay growing up in strict evangelical households is lower.

[GutterBoy 2,899]

1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

That wasn’t the only reason. There you go again. 

Well you can tell us.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,417]

1 minute ago, GutterBoy said:

Well you can tell us.

No discipline was my main reason. I witnessed it first hand. 

[GutterBoy 2,899]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

No discipline was my main reason. I witnessed it first hand. 

The school wasn't disciplining your kids?  Or your kids were being bullied by other kids who weren't disciplined?

[jerryskids 6,791]

5 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

No that is not the answer.  What you struggle with is correlation vs causation.

While it may be true that having homosexual parents results in more homosexual kids, you can't prove causation.  It's possible that having parents accepting of gays means that more kids would be willing to accept that they are gay.  I would bet the number kids out as gay growing up in strict evangelical households is lower.

That's a fair statement, and I'd have to go back and find/read the studies to see if this was accounted for.

That being said, the scientific consensus is that it is a combination of both.  Pick any link here:

https://www.google.com/search?q=what+causes+homosexuality%3F&sca_esv=7aa4c9402acc2dc6&sxsrf=ADLYWIJLaFh9wLwFPskQ8Lbu6dVJzktAyw%3A1718376346596&ei=mldsZr-LJKn3kPIP0M2GuAs&ved=0ahUKEwi_wOrdqtuGAxWpO0QIHdCmAbcQ4dUDCBA&uact=5&oq=what+causes+homosexuality%3F&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiGndoYXQgY2F1c2VzIGhvbW9zZXh1YWxpdHk_SMUyUABYizBwAHgBkAEAmAGDAaAB0hCqAQQyNC4yuAEDyAEA-AEBmAIQoALvCsICBBAjGCfCAgoQLhiABBgnGIoFwgITEC4YgAQYxwEYJxiKBRiOBRivAcICCxAAGIAEGJECGIoFwgIREC4YgAQYsQMY0QMYgwEYxwHCAgsQLhiABBixAxiDAcICCxAAGIAEGLEDGIMBwgIKECMYgAQYJxiKBcICEBAAGIAEGLEDGEMYgwEYigXCAgUQABiABMICDhAAGIAEGLEDGIMBGIoFwgIKEAAYgAQYQxiKBcICERAAGIAEGJECGLEDGIMBGIoFwgIIEAAYgAQYsQOYAwCSBwQxMy4zoAeUtAE&sclient=gws-wiz-serp

Also, you didn't address abuse.  

[Hardcore troubadour 15,417]

A NYS high school regents diploma was once considered one of the top diplomas of not the top one in the nation. Now the passing grade is 55 and guess who wants to get rid of the regents all together? 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,417]

1 minute ago, GutterBoy said:

The school wasn't disciplining your kids?  Or your kids were being bullied by other kids who weren't disciplined?

No, nothing like that. The public school that I worked in had zero discipline. You don’t know shitt kid. Pipe down. 

[GutterBoy 2,899]

1 minute ago, jerryskids said:

That's a fair statement, and I'd have to go back and find/read the studies to see if this was accounted for.

That being said, the scientific consensus is that it is a combination of both.  Pick any link here:

https://www.google.com/search?q=what+causes+homosexuality%3F&sca_esv=7aa4c9402acc2dc6&sxsrf=ADLYWIJLaFh9wLwFPskQ8Lbu6dVJzktAyw%3A1718376346596&ei=mldsZr-LJKn3kPIP0M2GuAs&ved=0ahUKEwi_wOrdqtuGAxWpO0QIHdCmAbcQ4dUDCBA&uact=5&oq=what+causes+homosexuality%3F&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiGndoYXQgY2F1c2VzIGhvbW9zZXh1YWxpdHk_SMUyUABYizBwAHgBkAEAmAGDAaAB0hCqAQQyNC4yuAEDyAEA-AEBmAIQoALvCsICBBAjGCfCAgoQLhiABBgnGIoFwgITEC4YgAQYxwEYJxiKBRiOBRivAcICCxAAGIAEGJECGIoFwgIREC4YgAQYsQMY0QMYgwEYxwHCAgsQLhiABBixAxiDAcICCxAAGIAEGLEDGIMBwgIKECMYgAQYJxiKBcICEBAAGIAEGLEDGEMYgwEYigXCAgUQABiABMICDhAAGIAEGLEDGIMBGIoFwgIKEAAYgAQYQxiKBcICERAAGIAEGJECGLEDGIMBGIoFwgIIEAAYgAQYsQOYAwCSBwQxMy4zoAeUtAE&sclient=gws-wiz-serp

Also, you didn't address abuse.  

I clicked on your link and the response is

There is no consensus among scientists about the exact causes of sexual orientation, including homosexuality. 

Abuse is the same.  Would someone that has been abused think they are gay as a result of the abuse but actually not be gay? 

Again no answer, no consensus.

[GutterBoy 2,899]

2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

No, nothing like that. The public school that I worked in had zero discipline. You don’t know shitt kid. Pipe down. 

You worked in your kids school?  Janitor?  Security guard?

There are only a couple of reasons to send your kid to private school

1) Kid has problems and needs extra attention/support.

2) Live in a sh1tty area and schools are sh1t

3) Kid is an athlete or otherwise gifted and wants to go to top university

4) Devout faith and want religious education

I didn't know you lived in a sh1tty area, sorry.

[jerryskids 6,791]

32 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

I clicked on your link and the response is

There is no consensus among scientists about the exact causes of sexual orientation, including homosexuality. 

Abuse is the same.  Would someone that has been abused think they are gay as a result of the abuse but actually not be gay? 

Again no answer, no consensus.

Yes, no consensus, likely both.  So saying it is all biological is wrong. Thanks for agreeing with me.

I readily admit there is likely a biological component, you don't do the opposite. 

And no, abuse is not the same.  It makes no sense to conclude someone is gay, but wasn't going to come out, but then did because they were abused.  Occam's razor.

[Mike Honcho 5,269]

Also June 14th, jeez, they keep kids in school forever now. I always go out the first week of June.  

[GutterBoy 2,899]

5 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Yes, no consensus, likely both.  So saying it is all biological is wrong. Thanks for agreeing with me.

I readily admit there is likely a biological component, you don't do the opposite. 

And no, abuse is not the same.  It makes no sense to conclude someone is gay, but wasn't going to come out, but then did because they were abused.  Occam's razor.

I didn't say it's all biological.  My opinion is heavily biological.  I think the environment factor influences the biological.  Example again, if you're told that gays are gonna burn in hell, and you feel like you might be gay, you're gonna deny it and/or keep it secret.  I don't think that you can just learn to gay, or straight, but rather it's something inside you that you choose to either embrace or suppress, based on the environment.  Personally speaking I don't think I could ever be trained to have sex with a man, it's just not appealing to me at all.

Regarding abuse, it's a physical and mental issue.  I'll use the example of Baby Reindeer if you watched it.  If not, then spoiler...... But he was sexually abused by another man and it made him seek out other men as a result.

[GutterBoy 2,899]

12 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

Also June 14th, jeez, they keep kids in school forever now. I always go out the first week of June.  

My kid gets out next week, but he doesn't start until after labor day.

[Alias Detective 1,399]

6 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

My kid gets out next week, but he doesn't start until after labor day.

Out the closet?

[Hardcore troubadour 15,417]

55 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

You worked in your kids school?  Janitor?  Security guard?

There are only a couple of reasons to send your kid to private school

1) Kid has problems and needs extra attention/support.

2) Live in a sh1tty area and schools are sh1t

3) Kid is an athlete or otherwise gifted and wants to go to top university

4) Devout faith and want religious education

I didn't know you lived in a sh1tty area, sorry.

No. Not a shitty area. Or close. And no I didn’t work in my kids school. And here you are, once again, running your mouth about things you have zero clue about. You barely leave the house.  Why do you think young would know those things?  Kids that have problems and need extra help are sent to the public school.  Please, stop talking. 

[GutterBoy 2,899]

1 minute ago, Alias Detective said:

Out the closet?

No he's not gay but i appreciate you going after my kid.  I'd be fine with him if he was gay regardless.

[GutterBoy 2,899]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

No. Not a shitty area. Or close. And no I didn’t work in my kids school. And here you are, once again, running your mouth about things you have zero clue about. You barely leave the house.  Why do you think young would know those things?  

I leave the house every day you idiot.  Feel free to explain yourself, otherwise I'll just assume you live in sh1tsville.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,417]

2 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

I leave the house every day you idiot.  Feel free to explain yourself, otherwise I'll just assume you live in sh1tsville.

The special needs and behavioral problem kids don’t attend the school. Shows how you just run your mouth.  And taking the dog for a walk isn’t really going out in the world. 

[GutterBoy 2,899]

2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

The special needs and behavioral problem kids don’t attend the school. Shows how you just run your mouth.  And taking the dog for a walk isn’t really going out in the world. 

The reason that you send your kids to private school is because there are no special needs kids in private school?

[Hardcore troubadour 15,417]

2 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

The reason that you send your kids to private school is because there are no special needs kids in private school?

You’re just a Fockin idiot. You said that’s a reason to send a kid to private school.  I corrected you and explained that the school doesn’t accept this r kids it gets rid of the bad ones.  They didn’t have the resources. Now Stfu.  

[GutterBoy 2,899]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

You’re just a Fockin idiot. You said that’s a reason to send a kid to private school.  I corrected you and explained that the school doesn’t accept this r kids it gets rid of the bad ones.  They didn’t have the resources. Now Stfu.  

Well how am I supposed to know what kids your school accepts or doesn't accept.  I have friends with special needs kids and some have chosen to send their kids to private schools.  It's a valid reason.  You have not provided a valid reason, therefore the assumption is your public school sucks because of the area you live in.  There is nothing wrong with that, lots of people live in subpar school districts.

[jerryskids 6,791]

25 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

I didn't say it's all biological.  My opinion is heavily biological.  I think the environment factor influences the biological.  Example again, if you're told that gays are gonna burn in hell, and you feel like you might be gay, you're gonna deny it and/or keep it secret.  I don't think that you can just learn to gay, or straight, but rather it's something inside you that you choose to either embrace or suppress, based on the environment.  Personally speaking I don't think I could ever be trained to have sex with a man, it's just not appealing to me at all.

Regarding abuse, it's a physical and mental issue.  I'll use the example of Baby Reindeer if you watched it.  If not, then spoiler...... But he was sexually abused by another man and it made him seek out other men as a result.

You are a middle-aged man, your brain is fully formed.  I am talking about young children, many of whom haven't reached puberty yet, who are still in full development.

[GutterBoy 2,899]

8 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

You are a middle-aged man, your brain is fully formed.  I am talking about young children, many of whom haven't reached puberty yet, who are still in full development.

As a young child, I was never attracted to any of my male friends and I don't believe I could have been talked into it either.

[Stryker Ryker 188]

5 hours ago, edjr said:

He will be the youngest kid in Junior High next year.

Went to pick him up yesterday and one of the gay kids in his class was crying leaving. 

Why are there so many gay/trans kids at the age of 10 and 11?

I blame the school and the parents. 

Awe congrats man. I know it’s a bit tough seeing your kid grow older. At least you’re raising your son right & not like these weirdos pushing their agendas onto kids that have no clue about what’s going on. I’d probably not let my son attend a place that tries to indoctrinate little kids into their cult. Notice how there’s never “drag queen story hours” at nursing homes it’s ONLY done for little kids. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,417]

36 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Well how am I supposed to know what kids your school accepts or doesn't accept.  I have friends with special needs kids and some have chosen to send their kids to private schools.  It's a valid reason.  You have not provided a valid reason, therefore the assumption is your public school sucks because of the area you live in.  There is nothing wrong with that, lots of people live in subpar school districts.

No. It’s highly rated.  As was the one I worked in. Wrong again.  

[GutterBoy 2,899]

6 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

No. It’s highly rated.  As was the one I worked in. Wrong again.  

Highly rated schools filled with undisciplined kids?  Sounds plausible.

[seafoam1 3,017]

1 hour ago, GutterBoy said:

As a young child, I was never attracted to any of my male friends and I don't believe I could have been talked into it either.

...and then one day, it all changed...

 

[BeachGuy23 642]

4 hours ago, Voltaire said:

You know where you grew up better than I do. But i do know where I grew up.

 I find it sad that half the country has gone to rot but I also know that you guys like it like that, chose to make it that way, and like to live in a community like that. 

As far as the cult though. I have a lifestyle of core beliefs that goes back 2000 years, and greatly resembles those of every civilization that humanity has ever produced. You have a twisted sex fetish that became popular ten minutes ago that is detrimentally corroding the civilization built by people like me.

Your lifestyle of core beliefs that are 2k years old include slavery is good, women are less than men, a sky fairy judges your life, and the earth is flat.

Pardon me if I laugh at anyone who thinks holding beliefs 2k years old is something to be proud of.

You should be embarrassed at having the same beliefs as literal savages boyo.

But your low IQ and need for someone to dominate your life and tell you what to do explains how you are so easily controlled and part of the cult.

Love this for you.

[edjr 6,580]

1 hour ago, GutterBoy said:

I leave the house every day you idiot.  Feel free to explain yourself, otherwise I'll just assume you live in sh1tsville.

you could share clothes

[BeachGuy23 642]

54 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

No. It’s highly rated.  As was the one I worked in. Wrong again.  

SAD you cultist need the school system to raise your kids.  We raised our kids to know right from wrong and who they are.

I guess it’s like you idiots needing your master to tell you what’s real and what’s not.

Cucks

[seafoam1 3,017]

5 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said:

I always wear the dress my boyfriend tells me to wear.

Love this for me.

Sounds about right. 

[BunnysBastatrds 2,438]

 Private school is the only way to go anymore. I busted my ass off to ensure she had the best education and experience she could have. She’s twenty four now and appreciates it now, like I knew she would. I spent a hundred grand + on tuition and all other costs it took for her to have the best. It was the best investment you will ever make, your children. 

[GutterBoy 2,899]

My kids all went to public school, all great schools.  We chose to live in the area we did , one of the reasons, because of the schools.  Kids had friends that went to other schools, private schools, not once did we ever feel like our schools were below grade.

[edjr 6,580]

7 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

My kids all went to public school, all great schools.  We chose to live in the area we did , one of the reasons, because of the schools.  Kids had friends that went to other schools, private schools, not once did we ever feel like our schools were below grade.

school is school, parents have a lot to teach their kids as well.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,417]

13 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

My kids all went to public school, all great schools.  We chose to live in the area we did , one of the reasons, because of the schools.  Kids had friends that went to other schools, private schools, not once did we ever feel like our schools were below grade.

This clown thinks people send their kids to schools like Don Bosco because their home schools are so bad. Scarsdale and Chappaqua too. Straight clown. 

[GutterBoy 2,899]

2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

This clown thinks people send their kids to schools like Don Bosco because their home schools are so bad. Scarsdale and Chappaqua too. Straight clown. 

#3 on my list.

Although many parents send their kids to prep schools for status, not a good reason.