EternalShinyAndChrome 4,107 Posted June 30, 2024 30 minutes ago, TimHauck said: There is a video of a United employee saying āit was because of what came out of your mouth,ā and after Longoria says it was about the misgendering the United employee says āthere was more than that.ā So, I am right. Ā Per usual. Seems like you're making some great leaps of logic here.Ā I think you WANT it to be true, not that it actually happened the way you say it did. If the interaction of what they said IS correct then there are certainly more questions than answers.Ā We've seen trannies make sh#t up, lie and get violent when they don't get 100% cooperation.Ā No doubt there is some of that going on here too.Ā Again, we'll need to know more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,878 Posted June 30, 2024 8 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: Seems like you're making some great leaps of logic here.Ā I think you WANT it to be true, not that it actually happened the way you say it did. If the interaction of what they said IS correct then there are certainly more questions than answers.Ā We've seen trannies make sh#t up, lie and get violent when they don't get 100% cooperation.Ā No doubt there is some of that going on here too.Ā Again, we'll need to know more. I want what to be true? Ā TheĀ United employee said āthere was more than thatā but @Patented PhilĀ seems to be ignoring that part. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,878 Posted June 30, 2024 1 hour ago, Patented Phil said: WhatĀ great livesĀ @TimHauckĀ and @squistionĀ have carved out for themselves. Ā Spending all day every day denying reality and issuing propaganda atĀ a focking magic football chat room. Ā Their moms must be so proud. Interesting that youāll say thisĀ but not call out Tranny Overkill for starting his 7,985th thread about trannies (which contains a lie no less)⦠Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patented Phil 1,469 Posted June 30, 2024 42 minutes ago, squistion said: Which she did probably to deflect from her disruptive behavior hoping someone like the OP would jump on this and believe she was kicked off the flight for using the wrong pronoun (like anyone would actually be removed from a flight for that ).Ā This is why scumbags like you have no place in this country. Ā There is NOTHING in any of the evidence here to suggest that the womanās story about being kicked off for misgendering was false. Ā Nothing. Ā Her video is completely believable, and the airlineās story about being kicked off for having too many carry-ons is actually UNbelievable - and contradicted by the United employeeās own statement that is recorded on video. Ā You have your mind made up about a story before you even finish reading it. Ā You immediately dismiss what you donāt like by doing your silly little source-cop thing. Ā Youāre a focking hack. Ā A tired, sad, lying old ex-lawyer who has no interest in the truth. Ā Do us all a favor and get the fockĀ outta here. Ā And get a life. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,878 Posted June 30, 2024 9 minutes ago, Patented Phil said: This is why scumbags like you have no place in this country. Ā There is NOTHING in any of the evidence here to suggest that the womanās story about being kicked off for misgendering was false. Ā Nothing. Ā Her video is completely believable, and the airlineās story about being kicked off for having too many carry-ons is actually UNbelievable - and contradicted by the United employeeās own statement that is recorded on video. Ā You have your mind made up about a story before you even finish reading it. Ā You immediately dismiss what you donāt like by doing your silly little source-cop thing. Ā Youāre a focking hack. Ā A tired, sad, lying old ex-lawyer who has no interest in the truth. Ā Do us all a favor and get the fockĀ outta here. Ā And get a life. 1. United didnāt say she was kicked off for having too many carryons, they said she was kicked off āfollowing a discussion about carryonsā 2. Ā The employeeās recorded statement said it was about more than the misgendering, you keep ignoring that detail Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,878 Posted June 30, 2024 @Patented Phil: yells at people for commenting about this story also @Patented Phil: makes several posts about this story, one posting three different links to it and another with a 10 sentence profanity-laced angry rantĀ Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,107 Posted June 30, 2024 49 minutes ago, TimHauck said: I want what to be true? Ā TheĀ United employee said āthere was more than thatā but @Patented PhilĀ seems to be ignoring that part. Okay, couple questions you should ask yourself before going all in: What was "there was more than that"?Ā No explanation.Ā There was a vague statement made with no facts or explanation to back it up. The United employee could be lying - did you consider that?Ā To cover her @ss? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patented Phil 1,469 Posted June 30, 2024 12 minutes ago, TimHauck said: 1. United didnāt say she was kicked off for having too many carryons, they said she was kicked off āfollowing a discussion about carryonsā 2. Ā The employeeās recorded statement said it was about more than the misgendering, you keep ignoring that detail Youāre a dumbasss. Ā And a liar. Ā She was told at the gate she had too many carryons. Ā After discussing it with them, and likely correcting them, she was let past the gate to board with her son. Ā She then called the he a he, and then was kicked off the flight. Ā The United wording is cleverly worded to say that she was kicked off not BECAUSE OF, but FOLLOWING a discussion about too many carryons. Why I am I arguing with a Leftist pos shitt like you anyway? Ā Iām done with this nonsense. Ā 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,107 Posted June 30, 2024 7 minutes ago, Patented Phil said: Youāre a dumbasss. Ā And a liar. Ā She was told at the gate she had too many carryons. Ā After discussing it with them, and likely correcting them, she was let past the gate to board with her son. Ā She then called the he a he, and then was kicked off the flight. Ā The United wording is cleverly worded to say that she was kicked off not BECAUSE OF, but FOLLOWING a discussion about too many carryons. Why I am I arguing with a Leftist pos shitt like you anyway? Ā Iām done with this nonsense. Ā He wants his version to be right so bad he's willing to ignore actual facts, I think. Even I missed that cleverly worded statement and my guess looks like it may be the correct one.Ā Y'know by questioning things you tend to find the right answer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patented Phil 1,469 Posted June 30, 2024 13 minutes ago, TimHauck said: @Patented Phil: yells at people for commenting about this story also @Patented Phil: makes several posts about this story, one posting three different links to it and another with a 10 sentence profanity-laced angry rantĀ Ā No, @Patented PhilĀ yells at you and SquidTard for for being intellectually dishonest, propagandist pieces of shitt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,878 Posted June 30, 2024 9 minutes ago, Patented Phil said: Youāre a dumbasss. Ā And a liar. Ā She was told at the gate she had too many carryons. Ā After discussing it with them, and likely correcting them, she was let past the gate to board with her son. Ā She then called the he a he, and then was kicked off the flight. Ā The United wording is cleverly worded to say that she was kicked off not BECAUSE OF, but FOLLOWING a discussion about too many carryons. Why I am I arguing with a Leftist pos shitt like you anyway? Ā Iām done with this nonsense. Ā Where does it say she was told at the gate she had too many carryons and thenĀ was let past the gate? Ā That isnāt in any of the links posted in here. Ā The only other thing that hasnāt really been discussed is she is claiming they wouldnāt let her mother board at the same time as her. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patented Phil 1,469 Posted July 1, 2024 17 hours ago, TimHauck said: Where does it say she was told at the gate she had too many carryons and thenĀ was let past the gate? Ā That isnāt in any of the links posted in here. Ā The only other thing that hasnāt really been discussed is she is claiming they wouldnāt let her mother board at the same time as her. https://www.nationalreview.com/news/mother-with-young-child-ejected-from-plane-after-accidentally-misgendering-trans-airline-employee/ Ā ByĀ CAROLINE DOWNEY June 27, 2024 12:12 PM The crew of a United Airlines flight on Wednesday ejected a Texas mom scrambling to get her young child and elderly mother settled on the plane after she accidentally addressed a transgender-identifying employee with male pronouns. Jenna Longoria, a nutrition practitioner and womenās health coach, asked the gate agent at San Francisco International Airport whether she could pre-board her flight, given that she was traveling with her 16-month-old son. The man at the counter, whom she later learned identifies as transgender, informed her that airline policy prohibited her from bringing her sonās car seat on board, āwhich I knew to be untrue,ā she toldĀ National Review. After waiting for a while, Longoria pleaded again with the gate agent to let her party pre-board. The transgender employee rolled his eyes, Longoria said, and handed her a boarding pass. She replied, āthank you, sir,ā which upset him. While Longoria was allowed to board with her child, her 73-year-old mother was held back, she said. Struggling to break down her baby stroller and arrange the car seat to get her crying son situated, Longoria asked a different flight attendant for help, noting that the staff member at the front refused to let her mother pre-board with her. āHe asked who and I said, āthe man at the front,'ā Longoria recounted. āHe told me they were a woman. I said, āIām sorry, [Iām] not well versed in pronouns. He said, āwell sheās wearing a dress.'ā After Longoria again asked the flight attendant for help, he told her to get off the plane, informing her that she was being barred from the flight due to her alleged bigotry, she said. The operations manager told her she may be banned from all future United flights because she made an inflammatory comment about the flight attendantās gender, she said. āItās so confusing these days to keep up with everyoneās pronouns and sometimes you canāt tell by outward appearance what they are identifying as,ā she said. āI was not trying to harm anyone.ā Asked for comment, United denied Longoriaās expulsion had anything to do with so-called misgendering an employee. āA party of three traveling out of San Francisco today was not allowed to board following a discussion about having too many carry-on items,ā a spokesperson toldĀ National Review. āThe matter was resolved and the customers took a later United flight to finish their trip.ā A video Longoria posted toĀ Instagramappeared to corroborate her claim that the staff kicked her off due to supposedly inappropriate language. In the video, Longoria speaks to a United official, whom she identified as Gabriella, who told her she had to get statements from witnesses to āfact find.ā Gabriella said it was the captainās decision to get her removed. When Longoria pressed for an explanation, Gabriella responded that Ā she was being ejected āfor what came out of your mouth.ā āI need you to know that because of this verbal altercation that you had with my staff, you got yourself put off this craft,ā she said. āAnd it was confirmed by the captain. They heard it all.ā Longoria asked again what specific conduct or words warranted this action. āI donāt wanna put words in their mouths because I still need statements, but some transgender comments were made, derogatory comments about being a bigot not being on the aircraft. This is what I heard,ā the United employee said. After being escorted off the flight, Longoria implored staff to let her family get their luggage off the plane because they needed medication that was stowed away, but United refused, she said. After waiting in the airport for three hours, Longoria booked new flights with American Airlines for $1,000. Longoria posted her experience on X, after which United contacted her and placed her party on a later flight to Austin. United declined to answer whether it would compensate Longoria for the $1,000 she spent on American Airlines tickets after she was allegedly told she could be blacklisted from future United flights. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,878 Posted July 1, 2024 19 hours ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: Okay, couple questions you should ask yourself before going all in: What was "there was more than that"?Ā No explanation.Ā There was a vague statement made with no facts or explanation to back it up. The United employee could be lying - did you consider that?Ā To cover her @ss? It was stated that the Captain heard the conversation and made the decision to kick her off. Ā That would give more credibility to the employeeās statement IMO Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,699 Posted July 1, 2024 20 hours ago, Patented Phil said: Thereās a FOCKING VIDEO where a United employee says the reason was āwhat came out of your mouthā. Nice try dumbasss. Link to anyone, ever, getting thrown off an airplane for having too many carry-ons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,878 Posted July 1, 2024 1 hour ago, Patented Phil said: https://www.nationalreview.com/news/mother-with-young-child-ejected-from-plane-after-accidentally-misgendering-trans-airline-employee/ Ā ByĀ CAROLINE DOWNEY June 27, 2024 12:12 PM The crew of a United Airlines flight on Wednesday ejected a Texas mom scrambling to get her young child and elderly mother settled on the plane after she accidentally addressed a transgender-identifying employee with male pronouns. Jenna Longoria, a nutrition practitioner and womenās health coach, asked the gate agent at San Francisco International Airport whether she could pre-board her flight, given that she was traveling with her 16-month-old son. The man at the counter, whom she later learned identifies as transgender, informed her that airline policy prohibited her from bringing her sonās car seat on board, āwhich I knew to be untrue,ā she toldĀ National Review. After waiting for a while, Longoria pleaded again with the gate agent to let her party pre-board. The transgender employee rolled his eyes, Longoria said, and handed her a boarding pass. She replied, āthank you, sir,ā which upset him. While Longoria was allowed to board with her child, her 73-year-old mother was held back, she said. Struggling to break down her baby stroller and arrange the car seat to get her crying son situated, Longoria asked a different flight attendant for help, noting that the staff member at the front refused to let her mother pre-board with her. āHe asked who and I said, āthe man at the front,'ā Longoria recounted. āHe told me they were a woman. I said, āIām sorry, [Iām] not well versed in pronouns. He said, āwell sheās wearing a dress.'ā After Longoria again asked the flight attendant for help, he told her to get off the plane, informing her that she was being barred from the flight due to her alleged bigotry, she said. The operations manager told her she may be banned from all future United flights because she made an inflammatory comment about the flight attendantās gender, she said. āItās so confusing these days to keep up with everyoneās pronouns and sometimes you canāt tell by outward appearance what they are identifying as,ā she said. āI was not trying to harm anyone.ā Asked for comment, United denied Longoriaās expulsion had anything to do with so-called misgendering an employee. āA party of three traveling out of San Francisco today was not allowed to board following a discussion about having too many carry-on items,ā a spokesperson toldĀ National Review. āThe matter was resolved and the customers took a later United flight to finish their trip.ā A video Longoria posted toĀ Instagramappeared to corroborate her claim that the staff kicked her off due to supposedly inappropriate language. In the video, Longoria speaks to a United official, whom she identified as Gabriella, who told her she had to get statements from witnesses to āfact find.ā Gabriella said it was the captainās decision to get her removed. When Longoria pressed for an explanation, Gabriella responded that Ā she was being ejected āfor what came out of your mouth.ā āI need you to know that because of this verbal altercation that you had with my staff, you got yourself put off this craft,ā she said. āAnd it was confirmed by the captain. They heard it all.ā Longoria asked again what specific conduct or words warranted this action. āI donāt wanna put words in their mouths because I still need statements, but some transgender comments were made, derogatory comments about being a bigot not being on the aircraft. This is what I heard,ā the United employee said. After being escorted off the flight, Longoria implored staff to let her family get their luggage off the plane because they needed medication that was stowed away, but United refused, she said. After waiting in the airport for three hours, Longoria booked new flights with American Airlines for $1,000. Longoria posted her experience on X, after which United contacted her and placed her party on a later flight to Austin. United declined to answer whether it would compensate Longoria for the $1,000 she spent on American Airlines tickets after she was allegedly told she could be blacklisted from future United flights. Thanks, but this doesnāt mean the ādiscussion about carryonsā ended at the gate. Ā In fact, what it looks like happened is not related to the car seat,Ā but sinceĀ they wouldnāt let the grandmother board at the same time, it was actually the grandmother that had too many carryons: https://liveandletsfly.com/mother-unjust-removal-united-airlines/ Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,878 Posted July 1, 2024 3 minutes ago, Baker Boy said: Link to anyone, ever, getting thrown off an airplane for having too many carry-ons. Thatās not what United said was the reason. edit: and I already provided a link to someone getting kicked off for arguing about the size of their carryon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,283 Posted July 1, 2024 1 minute ago, TimHauck said: Thanks, but this doesnāt mean the ādiscussion about carryonsā ended at the gate. Ā In fact, what it looks like happened is not related to the car seat,Ā but sinceĀ they wouldnāt let the grandmother board at the same time, it was actually the grandmother that had too many carryons: https://liveandletsfly.com/mother-unjust-removal-united-airlines/ Ā I'm amused that PP keeps offering different articles that say the EXACT same thing, from the EXACT same sources and think it is new information. All the while proclaiming he knows what happened based on the very one-sided version of events(because only 1 side has really presented their side of the events). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,878 Posted July 1, 2024 6 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said: I'm amused that PP keeps offering different articles that say the EXACT same thing, from the EXACT same sources and think it is new information. All the while proclaiming he knows what happened based on the very one-sided version of events(because only 1 side has really presented their side of the events). To be fair, that was the first I read about any disagreement about carryons occurring prior to boarding. Ā But yeah, that doesnāt prove Longoria isnāt leaving out important details about what else was said that led to her getting removed. Ā Lol at how gullible the righties here are if they believe she remained calm the entire time and apologized for the misgendering and was still kicked off. Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,699 Posted July 1, 2024 50 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Thatās not what United said was the reason. edit: and I already provided a link to someone getting kicked off for arguing about the size of their carryon I wasnāt replying to you. Ā Try to keep up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,699 Posted July 1, 2024 21 hours ago, squistion said: Which she did probably to deflect from her disruptive behavior hoping someone like the OP would jump on this and believe she was kicked off the flight for using the wrong pronoun (like anyone would actually be removed from a flight for that ).Ā And no one was ever removed from a flight for having too many bags. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,203 Posted July 1, 2024 Just now, Baker Boy said: And no one was ever removed from a flight for having too many bags. If they cause a scene over having too many bags, yes, they can be removed.Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,699 Posted July 1, 2024 2 minutes ago, squistion said: If they cause a scene over having too many bags, yes, they can be removed.Ā Yes, they will be removed for causing a scene not for having too many carry-ons.Ā Donāt you understand the difference? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,107 Posted July 1, 2024 3 minutes ago, Baker Boy said: Yes, they will be removed for causing a scene not for having too many carry-ons.Ā Donāt you understand the difference? You realize you're arguing with a 70-year-old blue-haired lesbian?Ā They only get their talking points. They don't question. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,203 Posted July 1, 2024 1 minute ago, Baker Boy said: Yes, they will be removed for causing a scene not for having too many carry-ons.Ā Donāt you understand the difference? I do, although it doesn't appear that you do.Ā 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,878 Posted July 1, 2024 Maybe Iām misremembering, but didnāt @Patented PhilĀ claim Longoria ultimately took an American flight? Ā Seems he may have deleted that lie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,553 Posted July 1, 2024 14 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Maybe Iām misremembering, but didnāt @Patented PhilĀ claim Longoria ultimately took an American flight? Ā Seems he may have deleted that lie. One of the articles says she booked a flight on AA, then posted to social media, and United reached out and got her on a later flight.Ā So she didn't actually take the AA flight.Ā This should be easily verifiable and support one narrative or the other. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,878 Posted July 1, 2024 4 minutes ago, Strike said: One of the articles says she booked a flight on AA, then posted to social media, and United reached out and got her on a later flight.Ā So she didn't actually take the AA flight.Ā This should be easily verifiable and support one narrative or the other. Yes my understanding is she purchased the American tickets but did not use them. Ā However, I thought @Patented PhilĀ had claimed she flew home on American but donātĀ see it now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,909 Posted July 1, 2024 My flight to/from Orlando went great. I only saw 1 freak ordering chickfila. Watched Dune 1 & 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,998 Posted July 1, 2024 Pedocrats are offended because she called a Guy a Guy??? Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,790 Posted July 2, 2024 I know flying is stressful, but I can't imagine Dismembering a crew member. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 'Tator Salad' White 120 Posted July 2, 2024 19 hours ago, Cdub100 said: My flight to/from Orlando went great. I only saw 1 freak ordering chickfila. Watched Dune 1 & 2 I thought the freak rainbows boycott cfa? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,909 Posted July 2, 2024 Just now, Ron 'Tator Salad' White said: I thought the freak rainbows boycott cfa? Liberal boycotts don't actually work. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,203 Posted July 2, 2024 10 minutes ago, Cdub100 said: Liberal boycotts don't actually work. They did in the case of Chick-Fil-A asĀ the company stopped making donations to anti-LGBTQ organizations as a result of the boycott and the boycott was discontinued. Since then,Ā gay men, lesbians and transgender folks haveĀ once again been eating those "yummy" chicken sammaches. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,909 Posted July 2, 2024 12 minutes ago, squistion said: They did in the case of Chick-Fil-A asĀ the company stopped making donations to anti-LGBTQ organizations as a result of the boycott and the boycott was discontinued. Since then,Ā gay men, lesbians and transgender folks haveĀ once again been eating those "yummy" chicken sammaches. Chick-fil-aĀ saw record sales and continued long lines when the liberals boycotted. The C-suite at CFA where stupid to stop what they were doing. The religious right never counterprotested. I think as we continue to learn about social media. Companies will stop listening to the loud very small fraction of losers. Who probably aren't even their customer base. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,203 Posted July 2, 2024 Just now, Cdub100 said: Chick-fil-aĀ saw record sales and continued long lines when the liberals boycotted. The C-suite at CFA where stupid to stop what they were doing. The religious right never counterprotested. I think as we continue to learn about social media. Companies will stop listening to the loud very small fraction of losers. Who probably aren't even their customer base. The boycott succeeded because Chick-Fil-A IMO perceivedĀ having difficulty expanding into new territory here and abroad (see London). In the long term they could obviously see that an anti-LGBTQ stance (via their corporate donations) might hurt them by alienating a potential block of consumers.Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,031 Posted July 2, 2024 Just now, squistion said: The boycott succeeded because Chick-Fil-A IMO perceivedĀ having difficulty expanding into new territory here and abroad (see London). In the long term they could obviously see that an anti-LGBTQ stance (via their corporate donations) might hurt them by alienating a potential block of consumers.Ā squiddy.Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,909 Posted July 2, 2024 5 minutes ago, squistion said: The boycott succeeded because Chick-Fil-A IMO perceivedĀ having difficulty expanding into new territory here and abroad (see London). In the long term they could obviously see that an anti-LGBTQ stance (via their corporate donations) might hurt them by alienating a potential block of consumers.Ā I grant you they did change policy which I guess is a win for the freaks. My stance is if they held strong to their beliefs profits would not have changed. I remember reading an article that they actually made MORE money during the mentally ill boycott. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,203 Posted July 2, 2024 1 minute ago, Cdub100 said: I grant you they did change policy which I guess is a win for the freaks. My stance is if they held strong to their beliefs profits would not have changed. I remember reading an article that they actually made MORE money during the mentally ill boycott. LGBTQ folks are not mentally ill (at least according to most psychiatrists and psychologists) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites