RaiderHaters Revenge 4,350 Posted July 16, 2024 4 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: I think we all know that Russia wanted Trump as President over Clinton during that election. Now, do they want him as President again this election? That's the question. who knows, what Russia wants, who cares what to AMERICANS want? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,350 Posted July 16, 2024 3 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: Sure ignore what I said and what I responded to specifically. you never have a point, you come in and its blah blah leftist gibberish centrist gibberish Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,899 Posted July 16, 2024 Just now, RaiderHaters Revenge said: and there is no such thing as gun control that would prevent it either So you're willing to concede that there are things that we can do to decrease the risk of it happening. You want to spend money on armed guards and prison fences. I would rather make it harder to kids/mentally ill to get their hands on very deadly weapons. Agree to disagree. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,399 Posted July 16, 2024 2 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said: It is a question. My counter question would be....what if they do? (Shock horror face) Well... RLLD said that Russian has no interest in Trump being President, so I asked why not, since they obviously wanted him in 2016. Then HT had to throw in his signature, douche bag, jab. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,350 Posted July 16, 2024 2 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: 1)Russia wants the US to stop funding Ukraine 2)Trump has said he will stop funding Ukraine 3)...... you sold me I am voting for Trump we should not be funding proxy wars has nothing to do with Ukraine or Russia, or Israel or Nato, or Gaza, or Iraq, Iran, Syria, Libya, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Venezuela, Colombia, any thing else? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,399 Posted July 16, 2024 2 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: who knows, what Russia wants, who cares what to AMERICANS want? It's just a discussion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,350 Posted July 16, 2024 1 minute ago, GutterBoy said: So you're willing to concede that there are things that we can do to decrease the risk of it happening. You want to spend money on armed guards and prison fences. I would rather make it harder to kids/mentally ill to get their hands on very deadly weapons. Agree to disagree. show me the law in place that allows mentally ill kids to get their hands on deadly weapons, and I will fight against that law spare me your rhetoric prison fences the fence around my yard is to keep my family safe, not to keep them locked in, same with all your libtard heroes, they have plenty of fences and security to keep them safe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,350 Posted July 16, 2024 1 minute ago, Hawkeye21 said: It's just a discussion. I know, I am not attacking between mooney and gutterslop you are getting caught in the bullseye Finland wants Trump...discuss? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,873 Posted July 16, 2024 3 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: Well... RLLD said that Russian has no interest in Trump being President, so I asked why not, since they obviously wanted him in 2016. Then HT had to throw in his signature, douche bag, jab. Oh yea my bad got off track. If you are trying to figure out RLLDs standpoint not sure why I am trying to start a different topic/question. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,399 Posted July 16, 2024 1 minute ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: I know, I am not attacking between mooney and gutterslop you are getting caught in the bullseye Finland wants Trump...discuss? Why does Finland want Trump? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,899 Posted July 16, 2024 1 minute ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: show me the law in place that allows mentally ill kids to get their hands on deadly weapons, and I will fight against that law spare me your rhetoric prison fences the fence around my yard is to keep my family safe, not to keep them locked in, same with all your libtard heroes, they have plenty of fences and security to keep them safe Well 18 year olds in many states can buy an ar-15 with no mental health evaluation. You might say 18 is technically an adult, still too young. Also if someone wants to murder your family, a fence around your yard isn't going to stop them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,350 Posted July 16, 2024 Just now, Hawkeye21 said: Why does Finland want Trump? cause thats what I heard Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,983 Posted July 16, 2024 5 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: you never have a point, you come in and its blah blah leftist gibberish centrist gibberish And your stuff is always "I'm the most centrist poster here.....here is some MAGA sh!t I will spout now...." I get why you don't want to respond to comments. You've been called out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,873 Posted July 16, 2024 5 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: So you're willing to concede that there are things that we can do to decrease the risk of it happening. You want to spend money on armed guards and prison fences. I would rather make it harder to kids/mentally ill to get their hands on very deadly weapons. Agree to disagree. Im one of those insane conservatives that is ok with increasing background checks and what not. But thr slippery slope people just dismiss can sway people because if you give an inch they want a mile. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,350 Posted July 16, 2024 Just now, GutterBoy said: Well 18 year olds in many states can buy an ar-15 with no mental health evaluation. You might say 18 is technically an adult, still too young. Also if someone wants to murder your family, a fence around your yard isn't going to stop them. nope but the fence, the dogs, the security system and my firearms might if 18 is old enough to be in the military and die for the country and vote, its old enough to be eligible for the 2A Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,399 Posted July 16, 2024 1 minute ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: cause thats what I heard I don't know much about Finland. Never considered them much of a threat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,350 Posted July 16, 2024 1 minute ago, Sean Mooney said: And your stuff is always "I'm the most centrist poster here.....here is some MAGA sh!t I will spout now...." I get why you don't want to respond to comments. You've been called out. really, was that part of the I am pro gay, pro abortion thing that makes me maga, or you just ignore it I responded to a very simple thing comparing pelosi's husband to Trump is an absolute farce, it doesn't take MAGA to see that it takes a leftist to equate them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,873 Posted July 16, 2024 How many governments have we had meddling in? Thr USA. Us. Just asking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,350 Posted July 16, 2024 3 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: I don't know much about Finland. Never considered them much of a threat. you get my point we hear who countries want as president, why does it matter? we decide as a nation and who do we hear those things from, I have never heard Putin say he wants Trump, except from the liberal medias projections also, Russia can't even take Ukraine, why are they a threat to US? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,899 Posted July 16, 2024 2 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said: Im one of those insane conservatives that is ok with increasing background checks and what not. But thr slippery slope people just dismiss can sway people because if you give an inch they want a mile. Well we had an assault weapons ban for many years before it expired, and we didn't slide back down the slope. I would be for another one, and background checks as well. Oh, and WHAT R B ASSAULT WEAPON DUH is coming from some jack ass, just watch.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,350 Posted July 16, 2024 1 minute ago, listen2me 23 said: How many governments have we had meddling in? Thr USA. Us. Just asking. more than half I would venture to guess Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,873 Posted July 16, 2024 2 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: I don't know much about Finland. Never considered them much of a threat. This cracked me up Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,350 Posted July 16, 2024 Just now, GutterBoy said: Well we had an assault weapons ban for many years before it expired, and we didn't slide back down the slope. I would be for another one, and background checks as well. Oh, and WHAT R B ASSAULT WEAPON DUH is coming from some jack ass, just watch.... we have background checks and you don't even know what an assault weapon is, hell you don't even know what an AR is Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,399 Posted July 16, 2024 3 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: Well 18 year olds in many states can buy an ar-15 with no mental health evaluation. You might say 18 is technically an adult, still too young. Also if someone wants to murder your family, a fence around your yard isn't going to stop them. I can't imagine allowing an 18 year old to go to war for our country but not allowing them to purchase a gun. Now, I will admit that an 18 year old is given the proper training on how to use a gun in the military. I don't think it's unreasonable for people to have the proper training and background checks in order to purchase a gun or specific models of guns. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,983 Posted July 16, 2024 6 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: really, was that part of the I am pro gay, pro abortion thing that makes me maga, or you just ignore it I responded to a very simple thing comparing pelosi's husband to Trump is an absolute farce, it doesn't take MAGA to see that it takes a leftist to equate them No that's the pandering stuff. It's the stupid ass arguments you throw out there that are ripped from the MAGA handbook that show your real thoughts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,214 Posted July 16, 2024 47 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said: So the precedent is if a non NATO country is attacked we throw the wallet at them? Sound. When Russia took Crimea was it the end of the world? Why? Different president? Do the civil wars in Africa not matter? China is taking Africa over by the way. Things are incremental. Keeping Europe and NATO strong benefits us. They are some of our oldest and strongest allies. Ukraine is unfortunately become a bit of a chess piece, but they said “I’ll be your Huckleberry” so I say arm ‘em. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,399 Posted July 16, 2024 3 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said: This cracked me up All I could think of was Seinfeld. She's from Finland, for crying out loud. Finland! Do you understand?! I know Finland. They're neutral. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,350 Posted July 16, 2024 1 minute ago, Sean Mooney said: No that's the pandering stuff. It's the stupid ass arguments you throw out there that are ripped from the MAGA handbook that show your real thoughts. where do I get the MAGA handbook, that sounds cool, is it like a choose your own adventure book? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
easilyscan 925 Posted July 16, 2024 25 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: Let's move the goalpost back to where they were. Did Russia interfere with the election to try and help him win? Whether it worked or not is not the point. https://time.com/5565991/russia-influence-2016-election/ It appears they did. Was Trump aware of it, I have no idea, but the article goes on to say that it never actually changed any votes. U.S. intelligence agencies have concluded that Russia did not alter actual votes during the 2016 election. But Russians did target voter registration systems or state websites in at least 21 states before Election Day, fully accessed some states’ systems and stole hundreds of thousands of voters’ personal information. https://www.fbi.gov/wanted/cyber/russian-interference-in-2016-u-s-elections I have to agree with RaiderHaters Revenge take. Quote yah, I am sure, there was a guy and he was gonna vote for hitlery but he saw a russian ad and voted Trump! it happened in Wisconsin honest question, has ANYONE ever come out and said I was gonna vote for hillary but changed cause of an ad campaign? there has to be one, somewhere, somehow interference!!! disregard the US and every country always butts their heads into other countries elections Some people did some things, but the effect was negligible at best. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lickin_starfish 1,937 Posted July 16, 2024 Just now, RaiderHaters Revenge said: where do I get the MAGA handbook, that sounds cool, is it like a choose your own adventure book? MAGA handbook: Secure the borders. Strengthen the economy. Stop liberals from abusing children. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,983 Posted July 16, 2024 Just now, RaiderHaters Revenge said: where do I get the MAGA handbook, that sounds cool, is it like a choose your own adventure book? You already do it- just pick the douchiest path on things. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,611 Posted July 16, 2024 3 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: All I could think of was Seinfeld. She's from Finland, for crying out loud. Finland! Do you understand?! I know Finland. They're neutral. Finlands PM and the Finnish people love Trump and lean right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,899 Posted July 16, 2024 1 minute ago, easilyscan said: https://time.com/5565991/russia-influence-2016-election/ It appears they did. Was Trump aware of it, I have no idea, but the article goes on to say that it never actually changed any votes. U.S. intelligence agencies have concluded that Russia did not alter actual votes during the 2016 election. But Russians did target voter registration systems or state websites in at least 21 states before Election Day, fully accessed some states’ systems and stole hundreds of thousands of voters’ personal information. https://www.fbi.gov/wanted/cyber/russian-interference-in-2016-u-s-elections I have to agree with RaiderHaters Revenge take. Some people did some things, but the effect was negligible at best. No it says Russia didn't ALTER any votes. As in hacking voting system and move votes from one candidate to another. Did they change people's minds before election day? I don't think we can ever say for certain, but there are a ton of bots out there spreading misinformation, we all see it, people repeating something dumb they saw on social media. It's probable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,764 Posted July 16, 2024 5 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said: Finlands PM and the Finnish people love Trump and lean right. Yeah not so much https://www.reuters.com/world/finland-should-stay-calm-amid-trump-rhetoric-president-elect-stubb-says-2024-02-12/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,350 Posted July 16, 2024 5 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: You already do it- just pick the douchiest path on things. wow, I can't believe you think abortion to 20 weeks is doushy, my bad Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,350 Posted July 16, 2024 2 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: No it says Russia didn't ALTER any votes. As in hacking voting system and move votes from one candidate to another. Did they change people's minds before election day? I don't think we can ever say for certain, but there are a ton of bots out there spreading misinformation, we all see it, people repeating something dumb they saw on social media. It's probable. you mean like misinformation that Trump is a Russian Spy? that kind? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,873 Posted July 16, 2024 I do think "gun control" boils down to slippery slope. Idc if many of you dismiss it....its real. So I think you have several conservatives like me who dont shoot often. Dont hunt anymore. Yeah check their ass out. Put a wait of some sorts. People who are pro gun have guns they dont desperately need one then and there. At least people I know. But you fall into the whats next phase. And there is always a next phase. People dont want to give that inch even if they would if it wasn't like this. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,764 Posted July 16, 2024 The truth is almost none of our allies like Trump. They all think he’s an idiot (rightfully) and they have no respect for him. They respect Biden because Biden stood up to Putin. And because they think Biden is tough, an alpha, and Trump is a big pu$$y. 5 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,350 Posted July 16, 2024 https://dailycaller.com/2024/07/16/us-reportedly-received-intel-iran-plot-kill-trump/?pnespid=tqRjFCIXafIR0PLdpC6_A4jSs0KtCZlmIPqgnrNi9x5mo1XiyLytyge9UVMgu7igbSagCZVHIQ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,350 Posted July 16, 2024 Just now, The Real timschochet said: The truth is almost none of our allies like Trump. They all think he’s an idiot (rightfully) and they have no respect for him. They respect Biden because Biden stood up to Putin. And because they think Biden is tough, an alpha, and Trump is a big pu$$y. lol, you just made Harry Sisson very jealous gurgling Bidens sack like that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites