TimHauck 2,870 Posted August 5, 2024 46 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: @TimHauck : you avoiding answering the question? I can’t tell if you’re trying to gotcha me into admitting that Khelif is a man, or if you actually think the Thai boxer is a man too. I’ve said I don’t know if Khelif is a man, but seeing as how Khelif was disqualified in the same event where multiple boxers were accused of “trying to trick people into thinking they’re female,” but the Thai boxer was not, yeah that seems like pretty good evidence that the Thai boxer is in fact a female. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,102 Posted August 5, 2024 1 hour ago, TimHauck said: I can’t tell if you’re trying to gotcha me into admitting that Khelif is a man, or if you actually think the Thai boxer is a man too. I’ve said I don’t know if Khelif is a man, but seeing as how Khelif was disqualified in the same event where multiple boxers were accused of “trying to trick people into thinking they’re female,” but the Thai boxer was not, yeah that seems like pretty good evidence that the Thai boxer is in fact a female. Hmmm...I could have sworn you posted that she was VALIDATED to be a female. I need to go back and look. However, I was speaking specifically about Khelif, not the Thai boxer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,870 Posted August 5, 2024 18 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: Hmmm...I could have sworn you posted that she was VALIDATED to be a female. I need to go back and look. However, I was speaking specifically about Khelif, not the Thai boxer. I said it was the Thai boxer that was “validated” to be a female Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,541 Posted August 5, 2024 So more details have come out about the testing the IBA did and it seems very legit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,102 Posted August 5, 2024 20 minutes ago, TimHauck said: I said it was the Thai boxer that was “validated” to be a female I'd have to know what "validated" means, I guess. XX or XY would be my only acceptable outcomes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,272 Posted August 5, 2024 12 minutes ago, Strike said: So more details have come out about the testing the IBA did and it seems very legit. Boxing group answers some questions but raises many more about tests on Imane Khelif, Lin Yu-ting Quote PARIS (AP) — The International Boxing Association raised new questions while struggling to answer others Monday at a shambolic news conference about the opaque eligibility tests that led the Olympics-banned governing body to abruptly suspend Imane Khelif and Lin Yu-ting from last year’s world championships, a decision that has fueled online abuse against the women during the Paris Games. The IBA still refused to disclose nearly all details about the tests and their results or methodologies leading to the disqualifications of Khelif of Algeria and Lin of Taiwan. Those decisions catalyzed a major uproar in Paris around the two boxers, who have clinched Olympic medals despite facing rampant misconceptions about their gender amid a wider divide over gender regulations and identity in sports. Chris Roberts, the IBA’s secretary general and CEO, claimed that the Olympic committees of Algeria and Taiwan wrote letters to the IBA asking them not to disclose information about the boxers at the news conference in Paris. What information it did reveal about the tests was mostly not flattering to the governing body, which received an unprecedented banishment from the Olympics last year following decades of troubled governance and longstanding accusations of a thorough lack of normal transparency Yeah, the most recent news has been glowing for the IBA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,272 Posted August 5, 2024 From The Athletic Quote PARIS — The International Boxing Association, the organization whose decision to disqualify Imane Khelif of Algeria and Lin Yu-ting of Taiwan from the 2023 world championships is at the heart of a firestorm engulfing the Olympic tournament, hosted a news conference on Monday “dedicated to the detailed explanation of the reasons for the disqualification” of the two fighters. Instead, what followed was a two-hour affair of little explanation, a great deal of obfuscation, and a series of evasive answers to reporters’ questions that did nothing to back up the IBA’s claims that the women should be ineligible to compete in women’s divisions, even though they were both assigned female at birth and identify on official documents as women. The controversy escalated last week when Khelif’s round-of-16 opponent at the Olympics, Italy’s Angela Carini, quit their bout after just 46 seconds after taking hard punches from Khelif and saying she couldn’t go on. The unusual and swift ending to such a high-profile fight called extra attention to Khelif and Lin’s disqualifications at the 2023 worlds, an event run by the IBA, an organization backed by the Russian energy giant Gazprom that has been expelled from its association with the International Olympic Committee and the Games themselves. Khelif and Lin were disqualified in the middle of the 2023 tournament, a few days after Khelif had defeated a Russian boxer, Azaliia Amineva. The IBA said Khelif and Lin were found to have “competitive advantages over other female competitors.” Khelif said in an interview published Monday by The Associated Press and its video partner SNTV that she feels her best response to the “fierce campaign” against her is to win a gold medal. “This thing has effects, massive effects. It can destroy people, it can kill people’s thoughts, spirit, and mind,” she said. “And it can divide people. And because of that, I ask them to refrain from bullying.” On Monday, with a platform to lay out their supposed evidence for the disqualifications, IBA president Umar Kremlev spent most of his time speaking in vague terms about upholding rules, defending democracy and dissatisfaction with IOC president Thomas Bach, while repeatedly criticizing the opening ceremony of the Paris Games. The expert doctor the IBA brought to the panel — Dr. Ioannis Filippatos, a former chair of the IBA’s medical committee — offered little in medical specifics, saying, at one point, “I don’t want to speak too much medicine to you.” Asked how anyone could trust the IBA after years of judging scandals, financial corruption and other misdeeds, Chris Roberts, the organization’s secretary general, talked about bureaucratic successes that had little to do with public trust. About the closest anyone got to adding detail was when talking about two separate blood tests they said Khelif and Lin underwent, though no documentation of the tests were provided. One test was performed in Istanbul in 2022 and deemed “inconclusive,” Roberts said. A second test was then performed at the world championships in 2023 that led to their subsequent disqualifications. The IBA officials said the national Olympic committees of Chinese Taipei (the Olympic designation for Taiwan) told them not to disclose private information about any boxers. Instead, the officials spoke in broad and often contradictory terms about gender, sex and their own tests. Kremlev said the testing showed testosterone levels as high as those for men but that he could not give any proof. The comment contradicted IBA’s official statement last Thursday, in which it stated that “the athletes did not undergo a testosterone examination.” But, repeatedly, IBA officials referred to high testosterone levels at Monday’s news conference. “We’re not able to disclose the results of any tests,” Roberts said. “But you can read between the lines about where that sits.” Kremlev said Monday that the IBA would compensate the “women victims” who lost to Khelif and Lin at the Paris Games, saying that they were harmed by the inclusion of the two fighters in the event. He did not express any concern for the mental or physical wellbeing of Khelif and Lin, who have found themselves at the center widespread scorn, though he was asked specifically about them. Khelif’s coach, Mohamed Chaoua, in an interview with SNTV and the AP, dismissed the IBA’s tests as “worthless.” “They (boxing authorities) did some worthless tests, tests that don’t show anything, the only test that matter is the sexual one, the only test to prove a person is a man or a woman, or trans,” Chaoua said in the interview. “They didn’t (do those tests). They took blood samples and said they found this and that.” The IOC — which has said that countries that stay loyal to the IBA are risking boxing at the 2028 Los Angeles Olympics — has repeatedly defended Khelif and Lin’s inclusion in the Games, saying they meet all eligibility criteria. “They are eligible by the rules of the federation which was set in 2016, and which worked for Tokyo too,” where Khelif and Lin also competed, IOC spokesman Mark Adams said last week. “To compete as women, which is what they are. And we fully support that.” Khelif’s quarterfinal opponent, Hungary’s Anna Luca Hamori, added fuel to the controversy before their bout with a series of disparaging social media posts that played into the IBA’s messaging. Their fight went the distance, with Khelif winning by unanimous decision. The two seemed cordial after the fight, but the Hungarian fighter’s camp did not exactly douse the fire in its post-fight comments. “We are not afraid of difficult circumstances and are ready to fight even among difficult circumstances,” said Balázs Fürjes, a Hungarian International Olympic Committee member. “We are proud founding members of the international Olympic family. We are 100 percent convinced that the International Olympic Committee will make the right decisions.” After beating Hamori, Khelif collapsed to the mat in tears. She told the AP the whole ordeal was weighing on her. “I couldn’t control my nerves,” Khelif said. “Because after the media frenzy and after the victory, there was a mix of joy and at the same time. I was greatly affected because honestly. It wasn’t an easy thing to go through at all. It was something that harms human dignity. And this is what affected me at the end of the match.” Nearly two hours into Monday’s news conference, most of the reporters present relocated toward the back of the room, where another Algerian boxer, Roumaysa Boualam, spoke in support of Khelif, her friend. Boualam held the Algerian flag as she called the entire ordeal “disgusting.” “She will box, and she will fight,” Boualam said. “This is unfair, what’s happened. … We have to support her.” Khelif (66 kilograms, 125 pounds) and Lin (57 kilograms, 145 pounds) have already clinched medals by making the semifinals in their respective weight classes. Boxing has no bronze medal bout — the semifinal losers each get a bronze and are not asked to fight again. Khelif fights Tuesday night at Roland Garros, which is converting one of its arenas to a boxing venue with tennis concluded. Lin fights Wednesday night. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,797 Posted August 5, 2024 1 hour ago, Mike Honcho said: Boxing group answers some questions but raises many more about tests on Imane Khelif, Lin Yu-ting Yeah, the most recent news has been glowing for the IBA. AP News once again proving they are not Leftist. "Shambolic"? Stellar newsing there. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,870 Posted August 5, 2024 1 hour ago, Mike Honcho said: From The Athletic On Monday, with a platform to lay out their supposed evidence for the disqualifications, IBA president Umar Kremlev spent most of his time speaking in vague terms about upholding rules, defending democracy and dissatisfaction with IOC president Thomas Bach, while repeatedly criticizing the opening ceremony of the Paris Games. Lol wtf? I’m sure @Strike still thinks this is a respected organization though. Based on this news conference it seems to have made their case worse IMO, for 2 main reasons: 1. Saying the 2022 tests were inconclusive, after their prior official statement said that was taken into consideration for why the boxers were disqualified in 2023. 2. Saying the boxers had high testosterone, after their prior official statement said they didn’t even test them for testosterone Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,911 Posted August 6, 2024 3 hours ago, TimHauck said: boxers had high testosterone I'm all for Tranny's beating the hell out of each other. I think it's great. It should definitely be an Olympic Sport Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,911 Posted August 6, 2024 3 hours ago, nobody said: That's funny Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,870 Posted August 7, 2024 Khelif advances to the gold medal match Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,911 Posted August 7, 2024 "after a sex #chromosome test ruled both of them ineligible". YUP Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,102 Posted August 7, 2024 6 hours ago, League Champion said: "after a sex #chromosome test ruled both of them ineligible". YUP To be honest, how does communist China even let a tranny go public, much less represent them in the Olympics? Communism usually disappears these people into prisons or worse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,911 Posted August 7, 2024 1 hour ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: To be honest, how does communist China even let a tranny go public, much less represent them in the Olympics? Communism usually disappears these people into prisons or worse. They should send them here where they'll be celebrated and heros. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,272 Posted August 10, 2024 GOLD!!!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,983 Posted August 14, 2024 Quote Billionaire X owner Elon Musk and Harry Potter author J.K. Rowling were both named in a “cyber harassment” complaint this week filed by Algerian boxer Imane Khelif. Well that should be fun. Wonder how many Tweets go missing? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,102 Posted August 14, 2024 11 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: Well that should be fun. Wonder how many Tweets go missing? There is no case. She will have to submit herself to genetic testing if she sees this through. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,316 Posted August 14, 2024 On 8/7/2024 at 4:45 AM, EternalShinyAndChrome said: To be honest, how does communist China even let a tranny go public, much less represent them in the Olympics? Communism usually disappears these people into prisons or worse. They didn't, China is immune from the Alphabet people nonsense. This is Taiwan. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,983 Posted August 14, 2024 9 hours ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: There is no case. She will have to submit herself to genetic testing if she sees this through. And they will determine what is already known- she is a woman. I would imagine though there are settlements if this gets far enough though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,400 Posted August 14, 2024 1 hour ago, Sean Mooney said: I would imagine though there are settlements if this gets far enough though Wow, really on the limb. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,102 Posted August 14, 2024 3 hours ago, Sean Mooney said: And they will determine what is already known- she is a woman. I would imagine though there are settlements if this gets far enough though I asked you previously if she tested as XX - you couldn't answer. You just said she has a vagina so that made her a woman which, of course, would be a normal assumption in 99.9% of cases. However, she is not a normal case so what I'm telling you is that she will need to test for XX to determine if she TRULY is a woman. Sounds like she was born with XY chromosomes but with woman parts. If she does, indeed, have XY then she's biologically a male. It also sounds like she was previously tested and she did pop for XY chromosomes which eliminated her from previous competitions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,102 Posted August 14, 2024 2 hours ago, Alias Detective said: Wow, really on the limb. Which sounds like she's just looking for a payday instead of this "bullying" nonsense. It's absurd. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,400 Posted August 14, 2024 1 hour ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: I asked you previously if she tested as XX - you couldn't answer. You just said she has a vagina so that made her a woman which, of course, would be a normal assumption in 99.9% of cases. However, she is not a normal case so what I'm telling you is that she will need to test for XX to determine if she TRULY is a woman. Sounds like she was born with XY chromosomes but with woman parts. If she does, indeed, have XY then she's biologically a male. It also sounds like she was previously tested and she did pop for XY chromosomes which eliminated her from previous competitions. If someone is born with a slit that's good enough to be a women in my book. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
purdygood 352 Posted August 14, 2024 Just now, Alias Detective said: If someone is born with a slit that's good enough to be a women in my book. Is that a Ronnie the Limo driver quote? "How's the slot" haha Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,102 Posted August 14, 2024 28 minutes ago, Alias Detective said: If someone is born with a slit that's good enough to be a women in my book. That's fine, but the problem in sports is that if she actually has XY chromosome she gets all the benefits of those whereas other women don't. That includes the testosterone and everything else that comes along with being a man. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,400 Posted August 14, 2024 11 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: That's fine, but the problem in sports is that if she actually has XY chromosome she gets all the benefits of those whereas other women don't. That includes the testosterone and everything else that comes along with being a man. It's my rule. No one else's. What's next, hermaphrodite Olympics? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,983 Posted August 14, 2024 5 hours ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: I asked you previously if she tested as XX - you couldn't answer. You just said she has a vagina so that made her a woman which, of course, would be a normal assumption in 99.9% of cases. However, she is not a normal case so what I'm telling you is that she will need to test for XX to determine if she TRULY is a woman. Sounds like she was born with XY chromosomes but with woman parts. If she does, indeed, have XY then she's biologically a male. It also sounds like she was previously tested and she did pop for XY chromosomes which eliminated her from previous competitions. Where did you ask me that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,102 Posted August 14, 2024 1 hour ago, Sean Mooney said: Where did you ask me that? Sorry, I had you mixed up with @TimHauck. All you liberals look the same so it's hard to tell you apart. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,983 Posted August 14, 2024 2 hours ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: Sorry, I had you mixed up with @TimHauck. All you liberals look the same so it's hard to tell you apart. Hey I've never compared you to like utilit99 or horseman 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,870 Posted August 15, 2024 On 8/13/2024 at 9:25 PM, EternalShinyAndChrome said: There is no case. She will have to submit herself to genetic testing if she sees this through. This is the first I’ve seen this but if the lawyers are smart my guess is the lawsuit would target people that called her trans, not necessarily the ones that called her a man. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,775 Posted November 4, 2024 Libs of TikTok @libsoftiktok · 4h BREAKING: @ReduxxMag obtained a French medical report of Imane Khelif. It showed he has XY chromosomes, male testosterone levels, testicles, and a micropenis . He stole a woman’s medal after beating up multiple women. Leftists & the media defended him. Democrats hate women. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,672 Posted November 4, 2024 SAD! And the teacher defended it and said he would test female. I guess it's cool for men to beat up women now. Again... SAD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,775 Posted November 4, 2024 On 8/2/2024 at 11:01 AM, TimHauck said: So you think Algeria is allowing someone with a pen1s to pretend to be a woman? Yes , a micropenis 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,775 Posted November 4, 2024 On 8/14/2024 at 6:35 AM, Sean Mooney said: And they will determine what is already known- she is a woman. Update? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,911 Posted November 4, 2024 Tranny: A mentally ill Perverted Man who parades around in a wig and frequents the Girls bathroom. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,983 Posted November 4, 2024 2 hours ago, nobody said: SAD! And the teacher defended it and said he would test female. I guess it's cool for men to beat up women now. Again... SAD Look if a doctor lied on a medical exam report no one would've predicted that was the outcome. And that doctor should have their medical license revoked if they knowingly hid results. And of course it's not cool for men to beat up women. That is an idiotic logical jump to make. It's fair to point out all we have right now is a "leaked report" which has led arguments astray already a few times in the past month or so. Also, Piers Morgan wrote a nice essay on this and including this paragraph: Quote The report concluded that Khelif is impacted by something called 5-alpha reductase deficiency, a disorder only found in biological males. This disorder becomes obvious at puberty, when the person experiences unusual male-like muscle and hair growth, and has no breast tissue development or menstruation. To be fair to Khelif, many males born with 5-alpha may incorrectly believe they are female into adulthood unless they are properly tested. In other words, he may genuinely have thought he was a woman for much of his life. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites