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2 hours ago, Hawkeye21 said:

I agree.  We disagree on what qualifies as murder though.  It's not as simple as you try an make it.

It’s not as difficult has you want to make it out to be.   Unborn babies have a heart beat about 4-5 weeks old, most , but not all, but most woman don’t even know that they are pregnant at that stage of time,   So if you stop the heart from beating, and you kill the unborn baby, that’s murder.  

No other way to see it.  

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1 minute ago, weepaws said:

No other way to see it.  

Of course there are other ways to see it.  This is why we can't agree on certain topics.

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2 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Of course there are other ways to see it.  This is why we can't agree on certain topics.

So to you, if there is a heart beat, and you kill the baby, what’s that called? 

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3 minutes ago, weepaws said:

So to you, if there is a heart beat, and you kill the baby, what’s that called? 

It's still not a function human being.  I told you, it's not as simple for everyone as you want it to be.

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2 hours ago, Hawkeye21 said:

It's still not a function human being.  I told you, it's not as simple for everyone as you want it to be.

So you just said an unborn baby is Human.  Can you now tell me what you mean by function human being? 

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38 minutes ago, weepaws said:

So you just said an unborn baby is Human.  Can you now tell me what you mean by function human being? 

It's not even a fetus yet.  It has no brain or spine.  It's more of a parasite than anything.

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58 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

It's not even a fetus yet.  It has no brain or spine.  It's more of a parasite than anything.

Now your not having a conversation, I’m simply asking you, what do you mean function human being? Now let’s have a conversation.  You are changing your answer, you called an unborn baby human.  Now which way will you go,  or will you keep skipping over the conversation 

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2 minutes ago, weepaws said:

Now your not having a conversation, I’m simply asking you, what do you mean function human being? Now let’s have a conversation.  

Having a heart, brain, skeleton, nervous system and pretty everything else that is required to live outside of the womb.  I've been having a conversation this whole time.

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4 hours ago, Hawkeye21 said:

It's still not a function human being.  I told you, it's not as simple for everyone as you want it to be.

Here you call an unborn baby a human.  

1 hour ago, Hawkeye21 said:

It's not even a fetus yet.  It has no brain or spine.  It's more of a parasite than anything.

Here you do not. 

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4 hours ago, Hawkeye21 said:

It's still not a function human being.  I told you, it's not as simple for everyone as you want it to be.

And here you still won’t answer the question, what is a function human being.  

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21 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Having a heart, brain, skeleton, nervous system and pretty everything else that is required to live outside of the womb.  I've been having a conversation this whole time.

Unborn babies have those things.  Next? 

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Just now, weepaws said:

Here you call an unborn baby a human.  

Here you do not. 

What the hell are you talking about?  Look up what an embryo is and what a parasite is.  I know you don't like reading any of this information but it's all factual.  This is why it's not a simple as calling it murder.

You said by week 5 it can develop a heart and that's your reason for it being murder.  How can it be if it doesn't even have a brain?  When someone is braindead but kept alive by machines, is it considered murder when they turn off the life support?

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5 minutes ago, weepaws said:

Unborn babies have those things.  Next? 

Eventually and that's why I don't agree with abortion after a certain point of pregnancy.  By week 15 their bones are just hardening and their hearing starts.  Before that, how is it really a human yet.  You're usually not even able to find out what sex it is until this timeframe.  

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32 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Having a heart, brain, skeleton, nervous system and pretty everything else that is required to live outside of the womb.  I've been having a conversation this whole time.

This answer you gave, first on the list heart.  At 3:5 weeks the fetus will have formed the heart, then begins the development of the brain and spinal cord, and starts forming the gastrointestinal tract.  

Most woman don’t even know that they are pregnant until 6-8 weeks , so they are killing a human being, like you called an unborn baby.  

Still would like the answer , what is a function human being? Of let’s see if you will actually answer this tough one, be careful. 

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3 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Eventually and that's why I don't agree with abortion after a certain point of pregnancy.  By week 15 their bones are just hardening and their hearing starts.  Before that, how is it really a human yet.  You're usually not even able to find out what sex it is until this timeframe.  

 

Just now, weepaws said:

This answer you gave, first on the list heart.  At 3:5 weeks the fetus will have formed the heart, then begins the development of the brain and spinal cord, and starts forming the gastrointestinal tract.  

Most woman don’t even know that they are pregnant until 6-8 weeks , so they are killing a human being, like you called an unborn baby.  

Still would like the answer , what is a function human being? Of let’s see if you will actually answer this tough one, be careful. 

 

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5 minutes ago, weepaws said:

This answer you gave, first on the list heart.  At 3:5 weeks the fetus will have formed the heart, then begins the development of the brain and spinal cord, and starts forming the gastrointestinal tract.  

Most woman don’t even know that they are pregnant until 6-8 weeks , so they are killing a human being, like you called an unborn baby.  

Still would like the answer , what is a function human being? Of let’s see if you will actually answer this tough one, be careful. 

I gave an answer.  You either didn't read it or didn't agree with it.  I think anything before 15 weeks is a reasonable time to have an abortion.

I probably shouldn't have said "functioning" human being since a new born baby is not really a fully functioning human either.

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9 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

I gave an answer.  You either didn't read it or didn't agree with it.  I think anything before 15 weeks is a reasonable time to have an abortion.

I probably shouldn't have said "functioning" human being since a new born baby is not really a fully functioning human either.

14 weeks old, an unborn baby, they have developed facial muscles, able to make expressions, genitals are developed, and hair, lower limbs are developed, toenails are developed, skin starts to thicken, and able to move their eyes, taste buds also developed, and baby is opening and closing fist, which means they have hands.  That’s a function human being.  Amen. 

God bless, I hope. 

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6 minutes ago, weepaws said:

14 weeks old, an unborn baby, they have developed facial muscles, able to make expressions, genitals are developed, and hair, lower limbs are developed, toenails are developed, skin starts to thicken, and able to move their eyes, taste buds also developed, and baby is opening and closing fist, which means they have hands.  That’s a function human being.  Amen. 

God bless, I hope. 

Yet it still relies on the mother to breath, eat and remove waste.  For every argument you have their is a logical rebuttal.  Once again, it is not a simple topic.

I am not trying to say your opinion is wrong.  I am just trying to make you aware that it is not a clear, black or white issue.  Other opinions that differ from yours have some validity.

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48 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Yet it still relies on the mother to breath, eat and remove waste.  For every argument you have their is a logical rebuttal.  Once again, it is not a simple topic.

I am not trying to say your opinion is wrong.  I am just trying to make you aware that it is not a clear, black or white issue.  Other opinions that differ from yours have some validity.

But I 16 week old doesn’t really on its mother, is that your next move? How about a one day old, how about a 3 month old?  My opinion isn’t wrong, killing a human is wrong.  

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5 hours ago, weepaws said:

But I 16 week old doesn’t really on its mother, is that your next move? How about a one day old, how about a 3 month old?  My opinion isn’t wrong, killing a human is wrong.  

I will keep repeating, not everyone agrees on what stage becoming a human is.

I know you think you are 100% in the right here. Not everyone agrees because there are far too many questions against your opinion.

I suggest reading some articles on the subject outside of the Bible. Something backed by biological studies.