HB Localboy 122 Posted February 22 2 hours ago, peenie said: You might try listening with your ears open: she was correcting misinformation. Things a black racist might say. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark Davis 398 Posted February 22 11 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: It’s both. He’s doing bad things but he’s doing them badly. (FTR, Trump is not close to the most racist President in history. Post Civil War-slaveowners don’t count- that would have to be Woodrow Wilson. Trump IS racist but nowhere near that racist. As for most unfit, I would say yeah a good case can be made for Trump.) Well I'd ask which is it then. He is either doing bad things in the view from the left, by deporting more illegal immigrants than Biden, or he's deporting fewer and therefore is in their argument a fraud. There is no coherent argument to make in tandem because to claim both can't be reality. In my opinion the numbers say that the truth is that he has deported less per day than Biden so far, but has significantly curtailed illegal entries to a trickle, therefore reducing the numbers of deportations needed to reduce the net numbers of illegal immigrants in the country. I'd also further say if one wants to make it about race, he's actually focusing on the criminal element rather than random selections to this point. That would tell me it isn't at all about race but trying to eliminate the violent elements. The argument that innocents are getting swept up in these raids are largely people who are living in the same households with these folks, so it's a necessary situation. That's not to say ICE won't expand these operations in the future, but the numbers now are what they are. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,414 Posted February 22 55 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: It’s both. He’s doing bad things but he’s doing them badly. (FTR, Trump is not close to the most racist President in history. Post Civil War-slaveowners don’t count- that would have to be Woodrow Wilson. Trump IS racist but nowhere near that racist. As for most unfit, I would say yeah a good case can be made for Trump.) FDR put American citizens in interment camps because of their race. You would think he could at least warrant a mention. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,758 Posted February 22 1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said: FDR put American citizens in interment camps because of their race. You would think he could at least warrant a mention. It was certainly one of the worst acts in American history. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,911 Posted February 22 Just now, The Real timschochet said: It was certainly one of the worst acts in American history. Why is that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,758 Posted February 22 Remember the Guantanamo plan? Trump, embarrassed that it wasn’t working (because it was pointless) abruptly killed it: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/20/us/politics/guantanamo-venezuelans-trump-migrants.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,758 Posted February 22 1 minute ago, League Champion said: Why is that? Is this is a serious question? Do you know any Japanese Americans with family that were interned then? I do. They lost everything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,911 Posted February 22 Just now, The Real timschochet said: Is this is a serious question? Do you know any Japanese Americans with family that were interned then? I do. They lost everything. They were detained for their own safety!!! Stop rewriting history. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,414 Posted February 22 1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said: Is this is a serious question? Do you know any Japanese Americans with family that were interned then? I do. They lost everything. You know all the persecuted in the United States. I bet you know some black panthers and Navajos. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,452 Posted February 22 20 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Remember the Guantanamo plan? Trump, embarrassed that it wasn’t working (because it was pointless) abruptly killed it: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/20/us/politics/guantanamo-venezuelans-trump-migrants.html That's not what it was dumbasss. They moved them all to Venezuela. That's the plan idiot, they don't stay there forever. How the fok do you get "killed" Guantanamo plans from that article. And why do you pay for that chit? Trump was bragging about and the use of Guantanamo today in his CPAC speech. The transfer to Venezuela was Thursday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,758 Posted February 22 Just now, Horseman said: That's not what it was dumbasss. They moved them all to Venezuela. That's the plan idiot, they don't stay there forever. How the fok do you get "killed" Guantanamo planes from that article. And why do you pay for that chit? Trump was bragging about and the use of Guantanamo today in his CPAC speech. The transfer to Venezuela was Thursday. Sure @Horseman’s ass. You keep thinking it’s a win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,452 Posted February 22 5 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Sure @Horseman’s ass. You keep thinking it’s a win. 178 douchbags sent back to Venezuela. That's the plan working. Meanwhile army doctors deployed to Guantanamo for extended stay. More troops deployed. You think Trump shut it down. You literally made that up in your head.....or you can explain where the article or any report says it's shut down. You can't. Seek help, you have serious mental issues. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 754 Posted February 22 12 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Sure @Horseman’s ass. You keep thinking it’s a win. Wow. What a jerk response. No doubt you are a fat left extremist. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,452 Posted February 22 @The Real timschochet doesn't need MSNBC or fake news. He can make it up all on his own. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,758 Posted February 23 10 minutes ago, Horseman said: @The Real timschochet doesn't need MSNBC or fake news. He can make it up all on his own. Dude. It was abruptly emptied. Because putting them there was stupid to begin with. I don’t think even the Trump people are asinine enough to start this up again after that embarrassment. Which is why I wrote it was shut down. If they ARE dumb enough you can come in and brag about how the folks you voted for are as moronic as you are. Congrats Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,230 Posted February 23 I am satisfied with the pursuit and impact so far. I do want to keep the pressure on, the criminals that were allowed in MUST be removed. The American people deserve to be protected. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 754 Posted February 23 13 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Dude. It was abruptly emptied. Because putting them there was stupid to begin with. I don’t think even the Trump people are asinine enough to start this up again after that embarrassment. Which is why I wrote it was shut down. If they ARE dumb enough you can come in and brag about how the folks you voted for are as moronic as you are. Congrats Excellent. They are deporting quicker than I thought. Keep rounding them up, send them there, kick them out to make room for the next batch of illegals. Winning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 2,429 Posted February 23 Instead of fighting fires and taking care of victims, the state of California is spending $9 billion to defend illegals against Trump. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,758 Posted February 23 2 hours ago, jonmx said: Instead of fighting fires and taking care of victims, the state of California is spending $9 billion to defend illegals against Trump. It’s not instead of. It’s along with. Both are very important goals and supported by the taxpayers of this state. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HB Localboy 122 Posted February 23 3 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: It was certainly one of the worst acts in American history. You don't know that because you don't have a crystal ball of what might have happened if they weren't interned! Who knows how many terrorists were in that group with intentions of blowing up citiies, naval bases, infrastructure etc... What happens if they would have prevented the Manhatten Project? The whole outcome of the war would be different! You can't say it was a mistake because you don't know what could have happened if they were left to freely roam around the country. It's possible they could have changed the outcome of the war and GERMANY/JAPAN would have been the victors! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 754 Posted February 23 3 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: It was certainly one of the worst acts in American history. Not as bad as Obama and Biden. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,452 Posted February 23 12 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: Dude. It was abruptly emptied. Because putting them there was stupid to begin with. I don’t think even the Trump people are asinine enough to start this up again after that embarrassment. Which is why I wrote it was shut down. If they ARE dumb enough you can come in and brag about how the folks you voted for are as moronic as you are. Congrats It's not shut down. You can't link to that because it's only made up in your head. You need serious mental help. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,911 Posted February 23 13 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: Which is why I wrote it was shut down Where do you get this crap from?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,017 Posted February 23 10 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: It’s not instead of. It’s along with. Both are very important goals and supported by the taxpayers of this state. Poor guy is spinning out of control. Trump is the man!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,452 Posted April 10 Quote The court’s 5-4 ruling Monday night requires those challenging Trump’s use of the Alien Enemies Act to rely on a complicated and rarely successful legal process known as habeas corpus, and to potentially file those claims in some of the most conservative federal courts in the nation. Yeah baby. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,452 Posted April 10 Quote In a Monday evening ruling, the Supreme Court allowed the Trump administration to resume the removals of Venezuelan migrants accused of being members of the Tren de Aragua gang under the unprecedented use of the wartime Alien Enemies Act. The decision, lifting a district court’s temporary restraining order halting the removals, was 5-4, with Justice Amy Coney Barrett joining the Democratic appointees in dissent. Get'em outta here! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,452 Posted April 10 House votes to reign in federal judges not following the SCOTUS ruling. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,121 Posted April 12 A small reminder of how far left the Democrats have moved https://twitter.com/ThomasSowell/status/1910812669852172522 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,208 Posted June 15 Taco Trump pausing ICE raids on hotels, farms, meat processing industries. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,911 Posted June 15 19 minutes ago, thegeneral said: Taco Trump pausing ICE raids on hotels, farms, meat processing industries. They are now going after Management, as they should. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,367 Posted June 15 On 2/21/2025 at 12:26 PM, TrailGuy said: WASHINGTON, Feb 21 - U.S. President Donald Trump deported 37,660 people during his first month in office, previously unpublished U.S. Department of Homeland Security data show, far less than the monthly average of 57,000 removals and returns in the last full year of Joe Biden's administration. https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-set-broaden-arrests-deportation-routes-expand-immigration-crackdown-2025-02-21/ Tom Homan asserts that the ICE arrests and removals under the Trump administration are "far beyond" those under the Biden administration. He dismisses reports that the Biden administration deported more people, claiming those numbers include border removals which, according to him, are not the same as ICE deportations. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,367 Posted June 15 On 2/21/2025 at 12:30 PM, The Real timschochet said: Public opinion per the latest polling remains in favor of deporting non violent undocumented people, 50-48%. However that number is going down. I think it will eventually go into the negatives. I am guessing the public hasn’t really thought this through and once they do they won’t be for doing this. Public opinions don't matter in regards to the law. The deportations are upholding/enforcing US law. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,208 Posted June 15 24 minutes ago, League Champion said: They are now going after Management, as they should. Riiight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,017 Posted June 16 On 9/19/2024 at 9:36 AM, thegeneral said: So how do you all see this working? Please break it down in reality how this would take place. Trump has illegals deported because that's what the public voted him in to do, and liberals cause violence all over the country. Nothing new. Look at it this way, the normals get what we wanted and get the illegals out, and you and your liberal cult get what you wanted by raging violence all over your home town liberal run cities. Now go blame Trump for your insurance premiums and local/city/state taxes going up. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,208 Posted June 16 5 hours ago, seafoam1 said: Trump has illegals deported because that's what the public voted him in to do, and liberals cause violence all over the country. Unless they are working for cheap wages in various industries. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,017 Posted June 16 2 minutes ago, thegeneral said: Unless they are working for cheap wages at various industries. Get rid of them too. What do I care other than getting rid of them. Seems to me they are prioritizing which to get rid of first. I'm all in. It's a tall task after obama and biden. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,208 Posted June 16 1 minute ago, seafoam1 said: Get rid of them too. What do I care other than getting rid of them. Seems to me they are prioritizing which to get rid of first. I'm all in. “Prioritizing” He is stopping raids at certain places because the donors complained. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,017 Posted June 16 1 minute ago, thegeneral said: “Prioritizing” He is stopping raids at certain places because the donors complained. Yeah. You are just making crap up now. Good job. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,208 Posted June 16 1 minute ago, seafoam1 said: Yeah. You are just making crap up now. Good job. Link Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,017 Posted June 16 1 minute ago, thegeneral said: Link It's called prioritizing. It's hard to clean up the mess that obama and biden left. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
