Jury duty pay.

[jbycho 754]

It's funny, I knew nothing about being paid for jury duty, or jury duty details at all for that matter.  I had been notified a couple of times but never ended up having to go in. 

I know this girl who had to go in today (she's there now)  and she had to drive about 20 miles to a democrat run shiithole city and park and deal with the whole thing. They told her that she may have to go back tomorrow if she isn't chosen today to serve as a member. 

It's no big deal to her other than what it would be to all of us. Sucks because it's boring and time consuming, but it's our duty. 

Here's what gets me. Why does the state even pretend to "pay" people for the jury duty? I got curious and looked up what each states actually give out for this per day.

A couple states at the high end pay $50 a day. And at the bottom end a couple states pay $5 a day. 

Ok, $50 may pay for your parking or lunch or whatever, so that is at least something. But $5 a day? I get it, it's more than $0, but isn't that the definition of insulting? It actually costs people money to go and serve? Think of the people who rely heavily on their everyday pay to live? Freaking weird and not a good look. 

Yet let's pay out billions for illegals who live here. 

State	Jury Duty Pay Per Day	Mileage Reimbursement	Employer Paid Time Off
Alabama	$40	N/A	Yes
Alaska	$25	N/A	N/A
Arizona	$12	N/A	N/A
Arkansas	$50	N/A	N/A
California	$15	N/A	N/A
Colorado	$50	N/A	Yes
Connecticut	$50	N/A	Yes
Delaware	$20	N/A	N/A
District Of Columbia	$30	N/A	Yes
Florida	$30	N/A	N/A
Georgia	$50	N/A	N/A
Hawaii	$30	N/A	N/A
Idaho	$10	N/A	N/A
Illinois	NA	N/A	N/A
Indiana	$15	N/A	N/A
Iowa	$30	Yes	N/A
Kansas	$10	N/A	N/A
Kentucky	$12.5	N/A	N/A
Louisiana	$25	N/A	Yes
Maine	$15	N/A	N/A
Maryland	$15	Yes	N/A
Massachusetts	$50	N/A	Yes
Michigan	$12.5	Yes	N/A
Minnesota	$20	Yes	N/A
Mississippi	$5	Yes	N/A
Missouri	$6	Yes	N/A
Montana	$12	N/A	N/A
Nebraska	$35	N/A	Yes
Nevada	$40	Yes	N/A
New Hampshire	$10	Yes	N/A
New Jersey	$5	N/A	N/A
New Mexico	$7.5	N/A	N/A
New York	$40	N/A	N/A
North Carolina	$12	N/A	N/A
North Dakota	$25	N/A	N/A
Ohio	$10	Yes	N/A
Oklahoma	$20	Yes	N/A
Oregon	$10	Yes	N/A
Pennsylvania	$25	N/A	N/A
Rhode Island	$15	N/A	N/A
South Carolina	NA	Yes	N/A
South Dakota	$50	N/A	N/A
Tennessee	$10	N/A	Yes
Texas	$20	N/A	N/A
Utah	$18.5	Yes	N/A
Vermont	$30	Yes	N/A
Virginia	$30	N/A	N/A
Washington	$10	Yes	N/A
West Virginia	$15	N/A	N/A
Wisconsin	$16	Yes	N/A
Wyoming	$40	N/A	N/A

 

 

 

[Strike 5,546]

Many employers pay you for your jury duty.  In most other cases financial hardships is a valid reason to get out of jury duty. 

[kilroy69 1,250]

4 minutes ago, jbycho said:

It's funny, I knew nothing about being paid for jury duty, or jury duty details at all for that matter.  I had been notified a couple of times but never ended up having to go in. 

I know this girl who had to go in today (she's there now)  and she had to drive about 20 miles to a democrat run shiithole city and park and deal with the whole thing. They told her that she may have to go back tomorrow if she isn't chosen today to serve as a member. 

It's no big deal to her other than what it would be to all of us. Sucks because it's boring and time consuming, but it's our duty. 

Here's what gets me. Why does the state even pretend to "pay" people for the jury duty? I got curious and looked up what each states actually give out for this per day.

A couple states at the high end pay $50 a day. And at the bottom end a couple states pay $5 a day. 

Ok, $50 may pay for your parking or lunch or whatever, so that is at least something. But $5 a day? I get it, it's more than $0, but isn't that the definition of insulting? It actually costs people money to go and serve? Think of the people who rely heavily on their everyday pay to live? Focking weird and not a good look. 

State	Jury Duty Pay Per Day	Mileage Reimbursement	Employer Paid Time Off
Alabama	$40	N/A	Yes
Alaska	$25	N/A	N/A
Arizona	$12	N/A	N/A
Arkansas	$50	N/A	N/A
California	$15	N/A	N/A
Colorado	$50	N/A	Yes
Connecticut	$50	N/A	Yes
Delaware	$20	N/A	N/A
District Of Columbia	$30	N/A	Yes
Florida	$30	N/A	N/A
Georgia	$50	N/A	N/A
Hawaii	$30	N/A	N/A
Idaho	$10	N/A	N/A
Illinois	NA	N/A	N/A
Indiana	$15	N/A	N/A
Iowa	$30	Yes	N/A
Kansas	$10	N/A	N/A
Kentucky	$12.5	N/A	N/A
Louisiana	$25	N/A	Yes
Maine	$15	N/A	N/A
Maryland	$15	Yes	N/A
Massachusetts	$50	N/A	Yes
Michigan	$12.5	Yes	N/A
Minnesota	$20	Yes	N/A
Mississippi	$5	Yes	N/A
Missouri	$6	Yes	N/A
Montana	$12	N/A	N/A
Nebraska	$35	N/A	Yes
Nevada	$40	Yes	N/A
New Hampshire	$10	Yes	N/A
New Jersey	$5	N/A	N/A
New Mexico	$7.5	N/A	N/A
New York	$40	N/A	N/A
North Carolina	$12	N/A	N/A
North Dakota	$25	N/A	N/A
Ohio	$10	Yes	N/A
Oklahoma	$20	Yes	N/A
Oregon	$10	Yes	N/A
Pennsylvania	$25	N/A	N/A
Rhode Island	$15	N/A	N/A
South Carolina	NA	Yes	N/A
South Dakota	$50	N/A	N/A
Tennessee	$10	N/A	Yes
Texas	$20	N/A	N/A
Utah	$18.5	Yes	N/A
Vermont	$30	Yes	N/A
Virginia	$30	N/A	N/A
Washington	$10	Yes	N/A
West Virginia	$15	N/A	N/A
Wisconsin	$16	Yes	N/A
Wyoming	$40	N/A	N/A

 

 

 

It is bullshitt that you can be required to miss work and be paid 12 bucks a day in Michigan. 12 bucks a day is not enough to cover my gas and lunch .

[Mike Honcho 5,281]

Whoa, I could get 5 bucks for sitting on a jury, I'm down!

[jbycho 754]

1 minute ago, Strike said:

Many employers pay you for your jury duty.  In most other cases financial hardships is a valid reason to get out of jury duty. 

I looked that up too out of curiosity Private businesses are not required to pay. Federal employers are required. 

Stuff that's been around forever and I just looked it up today. 

 

[jbycho 754]

1 minute ago, Mike Honcho said:

Whoa, I could get 5 bucks for sitting on a jury, I'm down!

So, you never have been summoned. Got it. Or are really broke. 

[jbycho 754]

6 minutes ago, kilroy69 said:

It is bullshitt that you can be required to miss work and be paid 12 bucks a day in Michigan. 12 bucks a day is not enough to cover my gas and lunch .

I think that is the worst part for some people I would imagine. There are people who are not in financial hardship who don't want to lose the money for whatever reasons. I thought things like this are why we pay so much in taxes to both the state and the federal governments. 

What are they actually doing with our tax dollars? Oh wait, illegals, foreign war support, changing a convict's sex because he wishes it so....

[Strike 5,546]

10 minutes ago, jbycho said:

I looked that up too out of curiosity Private businesses are not required to pay. Federal employers are required. 

Stuff that's been around forever and I just looked it up today. 

 

I didn't say they were required.  Many employers do pay for it though. If not claim financial hardship.

[kilroy69 1,250]

11 minutes ago, jbycho said:

I think that is the worst part for some people I would imagine. There are people who are not in financial hardship who don't want to lose the money for whatever reasons. I thought things like this are why we pay so much in taxes to both the state and the federal governments. 

What are they actually doing with our tax dollars? Oh wait, illegals, foreign war support, changing a convict's sex because he wishes it so....

I am a contractor. If I got locked into a trial that lasted weeks or months I would absolutely lose my job and be out thousands of dollars in lost wages. I do not care what the law says. They would release me.  It is not even a question in my mind. 

[Drizzay 720]

Just say something provocative during Voir dire, then you don't have to worry about it.

[jbycho 754]

2 minutes ago, kilroy69 said:

I am a contractor. If I got locked into a trial that lasted weeks or months I would absolutely lose my job and be out thousands of dollars in lost wages. I do not care what the law says. They would release me. 

All I'm saying is that the spending of our tax dollars in this country is farcical. For the government to say, "it's your duty as an American" is fine, but as Americans, we all pay up for residency. For rights. Paying tax money out of every paycheck AND having to serve time while giving up more money and then the government spends it on people who are not Americans and are not paying taxes, is fundamentally wrong. 

[purdygood 352]

My girlfriend is currently on Jury Duty.  It's a DUI case involving being high on marijuana while driving.  The Prosecution said there is no way to test that during jury selection.  So it's her word VS the Officer.  My girlfriend is like" I wanna be on the jury, it's like being in a TruTV episode"  I was like "You want to miss your $20 per hour job for 3-5 days to make $15 dollars per day because it sounds fun?"  Ugh.

[Horseman 2,458]

10 minutes ago, kilroy69 said:

I am a contractor. If I got locked into a trial that lasted weeks or months I would absolutely lose my job and be out thousands of dollars in lost wages. I do not care what the law says. They would release me.  It is not even a question in my mind. 

 

3 minutes ago, jbycho said:

All I'm saying is that the spending of our tax dollars in this country is farcical. For the government to say, "it's your duty as an American" is fine, but as Americans, we all pay up for residency. For rights. Paying tax money out of every paycheck AND having to serve time while giving up more money and then the government spends it on people who are not Americans and are not paying taxes, is fundamentally wrong. 

All you have to do is answer the questions wrong and they won't pick you, it's not rocket science.  Max two days until they eliminate you.  And that's without any of the other excuses you can usually use.

[Horseman 2,458]

Just now, purdygood said:

My girlfriend is currently on Jury Duty.  It's a DUI case involving being high on marijuana while driving.  The Prosecution said there is no way to test that during jury selection.  So it's her word VS the Officer.  My girlfriend is like" I wanna be on the jury, it's like being in a TruTV episode"  I was like "You want to miss your $20 per hour job for 3-5 days to make $15 dollars per day because it sounds fun?"  Ugh.

Must be rough being so poor.

[purdygood 352]

Just now, Horseman said:

Must be rough being so poor.

Oh I make plenty of money.  I just told her, the math ain't mathin.  Luckily she sucks a mean D.

[jbycho 754]

3 minutes ago, Drizzay said:

Just say something provocative during Voir dire, then you don't have to worry about it.

Do people actually do this? I have heard of it a million times but doesn't it piss off the judges? I guess if you act sincerely and say something really bad, then what can they do?

If I did this, I don't know if I would, I would say "I am definitely presumptive of guilt when a law abiding officer arrests someone for something bad. I trust our fine police. I'm not saying that it's right, but somewhat it's just part of the way I think and how I was raised."

 

[jbycho 754]

4 minutes ago, purdygood said:

My girlfriend is currently on Jury Duty.  It's a DUI case involving being high on marijuana while driving.  The Prosecution said there is no way to test that during jury selection.  So it's her word VS the Officer.  My girlfriend is like" I wanna be on the jury, it's like being in a TruTV episode"  I was like "You want to miss your $20 per hour job for 3-5 days to make $15 dollars per day because it sounds fun?"  Ugh.

I imagine it being like sitting in the DMV for 8 hoiurs. 

[purdygood 352]

Just now, jbycho said:

Do people actually do this? I have heard of it a million times but doesn't it piss off the judges? I guess if you act sincerely and say something really bad, then what can they do?

If I did this, I don't know if I would, I would say "I am definitely presumptive of guilt when a law abiding officer arrests someone for something bad. I trust our fine police. I'm not saying that it's right, but somewhat it's just part of the way I think and how I was raised."

 

I told a judge I could not be fair because I did not Trust the police in the arresting city (that I grew up in, I went to HS with most of those idiots).  She emptied the court room and grilled me. I stood fast that i could not be fair because i would not Trust the Police account of what happened.  And she excused me.

[nobody 2,673]

1 minute ago, jbycho said:

Do people actually do this? I have heard of it a million times but doesn't it piss off the judges? I guess if you act sincerely and say something really bad, then what can they do?

If I did this, I don't know if I would, I would say "I am definitely presumptive of guilt when a law abiding officer arrests someone for something bad. I trust our fine police. I'm not saying that it's right, but somewhat it's just part of the way I think and how I was raised."

 

I was on a jury once.  Most of the people say something along the lines of they don't trust cops.  Or a cop killed their cousin or something.  If the jury pool I was in reflected the population, we have a real problem with cops killing people's cousins.

[purdygood 352]

Just now, jbycho said:

I imagine it being like sitting in the DMV for 8 hoiurs. 

I've been called in multiple times where I just sat there for 8 hours and they said.  OK we have a jury you can go home. Expect your check for $12 in 6-8 weeks.

[jerryskids 6,799]

22 minutes ago, jbycho said:

So, you never have been summoned. Got it. Or are really broke. 

Funny timing, as I need to call tonight to see if I have to go in tomorrow.  It's not even the REAL (county) court, it's some muni court that I'm surprised I'm in its jurisdiction.  So if my memory serves from a brief time in a similar courtroom long ago (didn't pay to register a home alarm with the po-po), it will be mostly illegal aliens driving without licenses.

Also, this would be my first time going since my laryngectomy.  Part of me wonders if they would even consider me.  I should give some thought to any special considerations I would need, if any.  

9 minutes ago, kilroy69 said:

I am a contractor. If I got locked into a trial that lasted weeks or months I would absolutely lose my job and be out thousands of dollars in lost wages. I do not care what the law says. They would release me.  It is not even a question in my mind. 

When I was a young salesperson, I got out of jury duty multiple times by claiming (the technically true statement) that I sold a small number of very expensive pieces of equipment, and any one day could make or break my financial situation for the year.  AZ has since cracked down on such claims and requires a note from your company requesting exclusion.  Had I ever gotten onto a jury that was expected to last weeks or months, I probably could have gotten out of it.

[jbycho 754]

1 minute ago, purdygood said:

I told a judge I could not be fair because I did not Trust the police in the arresting city (that I grew up in, I went to HS with most of those idiots).  She emptied the court room and grilled me. I stood fast that i could not be fair because i would not Trust the Police account of what happened.  And she excused me.

Hey, we are who we are. That's not just a random opinion by someone. That has history affiliated with it. Grumpy judges...

[purdygood 352]

Just now, jbycho said:

Hey, we are who we are. That's not just a random opinion by someone. That has history affiliated with it. Grumpy judges...

The defendant court appointed lawyer wanted me on the jury SO BADLY. Haha  He was arrested for DUI because he was napping in the passenger seat of his car, sleeping it off. But his keys were in his pocket, so the cops said he "had intent to drive"

[jbycho 754]

2 minutes ago, nobody said:

I was on a jury once.  Most of the people say something along the lines of they don't trust cops.  Or a cop killed their cousin or something.  If the jury pool I was in reflected the population, we have a real problem with cops killing people's cousins.

Yeah. That's funny. I actually think, that most people are the other way in reality. Guilty until proven innocent. Physical appearance matters very much.  I guess it depends on the various demographics. 

[Horseman 2,458]

6 minutes ago, jbycho said:

Do people actually do this? I have heard of it a million times but doesn't it piss off the judges? I guess if you act sincerely and say something really bad, then what can they do?

If I did this, I don't know if I would, I would say "I am definitely presumptive of guilt when a law abiding officer arrests someone for something bad. I trust our fine police. I'm not saying that it's right, but somewhat it's just part of the way I think and how I was raised."

 

The judge doesn't pick the jurors they attorneys do.  You don't have to say something against the rules that would piss the judge off, just answer the question in a way that you know the attorney asking the question wont like.  Again, not rocket science.  

[purdygood 352]

Just now, Horseman said:

The judge doesn't pick the jurors they attorneys do.  You don't have to say something against the rules that would piss the judge off, just answer the question in a way that you know the attorney asking the question wont like.  Again, not rocket science.  

The attorneys only get so many strikes though.  If you really want off. You have to piss off the judge.

[jbycho 754]

2 minutes ago, purdygood said:

The defendant court appointed lawyer wanted me on the jury SO BADLY. Haha

I could see if I had the interest, and the time to kill, wanting to be on a jury just so I can pretend to be neutral and then show my true colors when all is said and done via my vote. "I don't like the way that guy looks. Guilty bltch." 

[purdygood 352]

Just now, jbycho said:

I could see if I had the interest, and the time to kill, wanting to be on a jury just so I can pretend to be neutral and then show my true colors when all is said and done via my vote. "I don't like the way that guy looks. Guilty bltch." 

I was on a jury once.  The guy was accused of stabbing his girlfriend 12 times.  They said she would be giving testimony against him.  He has been arrested for Domestic Abuse against her 3 times prior but we "couldn't hold that against him".  Bro walked in with his suit.  Had ALLLL the face an neck tattoo's.  I told the judge.  I can't be fair. I already know he did it.

[jbycho 754]

3 minutes ago, Horseman said:

The judge doesn't pick the jurors they attorneys do.  You don't have to say something against the rules that would piss the judge off, just answer the question in a way that you know the attorney asking the question wont like.  Again, not rocket science.  

So you tell the prosecutor, "I hate the police for real." Then you tell the defense, "I find it's true that most people who are accused of a crime are 95% guilty in my eyes." 

 

[jbycho 754]

1 minute ago, purdygood said:

I was on a jury once.  The guy was accused of stabbing his girlfriend 12 times.  They said she would be giving testimony against him.  He has been arrested for Domestic Abuse against her 3 times prior but we "couldn't hold that against him".  Bro walked in with his suit.  Had ALLLL the face an neck tattoo's.  I told the judge.  I can't be fair. I already know he did it.

The only people who would want to be on that jury would be the ones who would pretend to be honest and impartial just so they could convict his ass. 

[Horseman 2,458]

5 minutes ago, jbycho said:

So you tell the prosecutor, "I hate the police for real." Then you tell the defense, "I find it's true that most people who are accused of a crime are 95% guilty in my eyes." 

 

Learn to be a little more subtle.  

Do you think you can be objective in evaluating the testimony from a woman that has allegedly been assailed by her boyfriend?

Sure, but everyone has their own version of the truth, their own story to tell.  

Get it now?

[purdygood 352]

Just now, Horseman said:

Learn to be a little more subtle.  

Do you think you can be objective in evaluating the testimony from a woman that has allegedly been assailed by her boyfriend?

Sure, but everyone has their own version of the truth, their own story to tell.  

Get it now?

The judge always says "can you be impartial and make a judgement based only on the facts put in this box of testimony and evidence?"   Then you reply "No I can not, because I don't Trust the truthfulness of the evidence and Testimony in that box".  Then they will ask you again.  You reply the same again.  Then the judge will dismiss you.

[jbycho 754]

5 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Learn to be a little more subtle.  

Do you think you can be objective in evaluating the testimony from a woman that has allegedly been assailed by her boyfriend?

Sure, but everyone has their own version of the truth, their own story to tell.  

Get it now?

I'm too white and male and not poor. Defenders don't want me on the jury. 

[frank 2,306]

I bet you can stream it for under $5.

[Gepetto 1,368]

I received a Juror summons for a federal case beginning early December, so thanks for starting this thread and sharing that info.

From your link: 

Juror pay is typically a token amount, set by state or local law decades ago, and is often very low due to not being not adjusted for inflation or rising costs of living.

In addition to your pay, you will generally be reimbursed for costs associated with serving as a juror, including parking, tolls, and if necessary, overnight accommodations during multi-day trials away from your home. The courthouse will often provide refreshments and meals during the trial to permit jurors to continue deliberations without leaving.

[Engorgeous George 2,331]

56 minutes ago, Drizzay said:

Just say something provocative during Voir dire, then you don't have to worry about it.

Subtlely play with yourself while looking deeply into the Judges yees while being questioned.  You will be excused for cause.

[TBayXXXVII 2,545]

1 hour ago, Strike said:

I didn't say they were required.  Many employers do pay for it though. If not claim financial hardship.

Define "many".  Or are you including people being forced to take personal or vacation time in that?

[Strike 5,546]

2 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Define "many".

A lot. 

[Engorgeous George 2,331]

Just now, Strike said:

A lot. 

So somewhere between a quite a few and most.  Less than most or all but more than some.  You know as in "Many women find me undesirable, but a few are still willing to go there".

[Mike Honcho 5,281]

1 hour ago, purdygood said:

My girlfriend is currently on Jury Duty.  It's a DUI case involving being high on marijuana while driving.  The Prosecution said there is no way to test that during jury selection.  So it's her word VS the Officer.  My girlfriend is like" I wanna be on the jury, it's like being in a TruTV episode"  I was like "You want to miss your $20 per hour job for 3-5 days to make $15 dollars per day because it sounds fun?"  Ugh.

She doesn't charge me $20 per hour.