A woman's right to choose

[Hawkeye21 2,399]

2 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Weird how men don't get a right to choose when it comes to the selective service and the draft. 

My Body, My choice!!!!

That would be a better argument if we actually wanted women to get drafted and be in the military.  I don't think many here want more women in the military though.

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Just now, Fnord said:

Have you figured out the difference between furor and fuhrer yet?

I already told you you were worked up beyond reason. It has nothing to do with the definition. 

You are trying to hard now. Go away

 

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5 minutes ago, jvrine said:

Kamala Harris, bozo.

so youre saying you already know the outcome bozo?

how many accounts you have to make, maybe if you weren't a retard you wouldn't keep getting banned

[Hawkeye21 2,399]

1 minute ago, jbycho said:

And the kid is his body. They don't get that. If a guy doesn't want the kid, only the woman gets the choice. 

That is not something everyone agrees on though.  Not everyone considers that to be a "kid" yet.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,416]

I’ll say it again. Should have ran Hillary in 2020. She would have won and not done nearly the radical things Biden/ Harris have done. Plus no pinching kids nipples. 

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19 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

so youre saying you already know the outcome bozo?

how many accounts you have to make, maybe if you weren't a retard you wouldn't keep getting banned

Yes I do know and I couldn't resist coming back to watch mooks like you cry about losing

[jbycho 754]

19 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

That is not something everyone agrees on though.  Not everyone considers that to be a "kid" yet.

So the girl gets to decide to kill it because it's her that feels that way. The guy's opinion doesn't matter I guess. 

Why can you not just hold the two people responsible for creating a new life when they have every opportunity to not create one? It is their CHOICE to create one. 

[Hawkeye21 2,399]

Just now, jbycho said:

So the girl gets to decide to kill it because it's her that feels that way. The guy's opinion doesn't matter I guess. 

Why can you not just hold the two people responsible for creating a new life when they have every opportunity to not create one? It is their CHOICE to create one. 

Because it's not that simple.  Do we have the data on what demographic of women have abortions?  Are they they young women or middle aged?  Are they single or married?

You're never going to stop college age people from being irresponsible.  Do you want to force all young women to have an unwanted pregnancy?

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5 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Because it's not that simple.  Do we have the data on what demographic of women have abortions?  Are they they young women or middle aged?  Are they single or married?

You're never going to stop college age people from being irresponsible.  Do you want to force all young women to have an unwanted pregnancy?

It is that simple. All I know, is I am glad I didn't kill my kid. I can't help others learn responsibility. Only my own. 

Why are we catering to the weak and stupid? 

We should be crafting laws to keep people from being weak and stupid. And then let deterrence set in. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,416]

4 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Because it's not that simple.  Do we have the data on what demographic of women have abortions?  Are they they young women or middle aged?  Are they single or married?

You're never going to stop college age people from being irresponsible.  Do you want to force all young women to have an unwanted pregnancy?

Do you think an abortion at 30 weeks isn’t ending a human life? Don’t bring up the overwhelmingly agreed upon exceptions. 

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2 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Because it's not that simple.  Do we have the data on what demographic of women have abortions?  Are they they young women or middle aged?  Are they single or married?

You're never going to stop college age people from being irresponsible.  Do you want to force all young women to have an unwanted pregnancy?

Maybe they should get an IUD as a requirement to get a driver's license and to vote.  For men, maybe they should get a reversible vasectomy before getting a license or being allowed to register to vote.  We then make phucking without protection a crime punishable by sterilization.

[Hawkeye21 2,399]

1 minute ago, jbycho said:

It is that simple. All I know, is I am glad I didn't kill my kid. I can't help others learn responsibility. Only my own. 

Why are we catering to the weak and stupid? 

Were you married?  Did you want to have a child at the time?  Were you prepared to raise a child?  Did you have family and friends as a good support system at the time?

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Abortion is simply the last resort for birth control.   Women want to have sex, and when the natural outcome of that activity results in a baby, they would rather kill it than raise it ,to avoid the inconvenience.

This is why I support abortion.  Chances are if your inclination is to murder your offspring rather than ensure the inconvenience of raising it, you would suck as  parent.

Abortion is a societal good, we should all support, as it avoids the really bad outcomes of sluts raising children.   Therefore, supporting abortion is supporting a better society. 

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1 hour ago, peenie said:

No one forced anyone to get a vaccination. If you didn't want to get it, then don't, but you can't go around unvaccinated if you want to go to work with others that want to be as safe as possible. You can't go to school without being vaccinated either. You weren't bothered about getting your measles, mumps, rubella or polio vaccines now were you?

But the covid vaccine has been proven to be dangerous and ineffective. I am skeptical about vaccines at this point, but at least previous vaccines had gone through rigorous testing with years of use to back up the statistics. The covid vaccine was rushed through.

You are showing your true colors here Peenie. You would rather a mother be not allowed to participate in society because she wouldn't take an experimental vaccine. You would rather see her starve. This doesn't surprise me at all coming from someone who can't understand what the adults are speaking about.

[Hawkeye21 2,399]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

Do you think an abortion at 30 weeks isn’t ending a human life? Don’t bring up the overwhelmingly agreed upon exceptions. 

Where is this coming from?  I don't agree with abortion after a certain amount of time.  I would say 30 weeks is too far to have an abortion unless there is some sort of health risk.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,416]

Just now, Hawkeye21 said:

Where is this coming from?  I don't agree with abortion after a certain amount of time.  I would say 30 weeks is too far to have an abortion unless there is some sort of health risk.

So how long then? 

[thegeneral 3,208]

The real reason to make abortion illegal across the board is to prevent hurricanes.

[Hawkeye21 2,399]

2 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said:

Maybe they should get an IUD as a requirement to get a driver's license and to vote.  For men, maybe they should get a reversible vasectomy before getting a license or being allowed to register to vote.  We then make phucking without protection a crime punishable by sterilization.

Doesn't sound like a very free country if that would happen.

[Hawkeye21 2,399]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

So how long then? 

I don't have an exact time frame but I usually say around 8 to 10 weeks.  I don't think every situation is the same and should be treated differently.

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Just now, Hawkeye21 said:

I don't have an exact time frame but I usually say around 8 to 10 weeks.  I don't think every situation is the same and should be treated differently.

Well then, you don’t believe in a woman’s right to choose. Welcome to the party pal.  

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1 hour ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

yep im not upset women want to kill their babies

stop being whores and you dont have to worry

instead they use the anecdotal 0.001% chance of something happening as their talking point, yet fail to ever admit 99% of all abortions are just cause of irresponsibility and they think abortion is a good form of birth control

 

Today is going to be poetic when archaic views like this collide with our election of the first female POTUS.

Maybe we should let you call her HBIC instead, would that make you more comfortable?

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5 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Were you married?  Did you want to have a child at the time?  Were you prepared to raise a child?  Did you have family and friends as a good support system at the time?

"Were" I married? Yes. And still am. 

We planned because we knew about birth control. and how to use it. Do you think the youth of America don't know what birth control is or how it works? 

And a support system? The "support system" is being smart. So yes. 

So if some 18 year old goes out and gets drunk and drives and kills someone, it's all good? They are just a kid? 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,416]

Just now, OldMaid said:

Today is going to be poetic when archaic views like this collide with our election of the first female POTUS.

Maybe we should let you call her HBIC instead, would that make you more comfortable?

Archaic is all these unwanted pregnancies in 2024. Technology and education hav really made it an obsolete issue if women would make use of what is available here in 2024.  

[Hawkeye21 2,399]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

Well then, you don’t believe in a woman’s right to choose. Welcome to the party pal.  

Are women asking to have the option of abortion at any time of pregnancy?  Is that what they are voting for?

[Hawkeye21 2,399]

1 minute ago, jbycho said:

"Were" I married? Yes. And still am. 

We planned because we knew about birth control. and how to use it. Do you think the youth of America don't know what birth control is or how it works? 

And a support system? The "support system" is being smart. So yes. 

So if some 18 year old goes out and gets drunk and drives and kills someone, it's all good? They are just a kid? 

Your experience is not applicable then.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,416]

1 minute ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Are women asking to have the option of abortion at any time of pregnancy?  Is that what they are voting for?

Yup. Roe V Wade was overturned because Missouri put in a 15 week limitation.   So the left took it to court and lost.  Now here we are. But Trump. 

[Hawkeye21 2,399]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

Yup. Roe V Wade was overturned because Missouri put in a 15 week limitation.   So the left took it to court and lost.  Now here we are 

From what I've seen, women think that abortion is going to be completely taken away from them as an option and that's what they are voting against.  I don't know how many want the option to abort at any point in the pregnancy.  Maybe I'm wrong.  I think the majority of our nation agrees that abortion after a certain time is wrong.

[MDC 7,407]

Republicans tell us over and over how the giver enemy can’t do a single thing right. Except decide for women whether they can get an abortion. 

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1 minute ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Your experience is not applicable then.

Doing things the right way is always applicable. Like I said, if you make a mistake and drive drunk and get caught, you pay for it. 

 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,416]

Just now, Hawkeye21 said:

From what I've seen, women think that abortion is going to be completely taken away from them as an option and that's what they are voting against.  I don't know how many want the option to abort at any point in the pregnancy.  Maybe I'm wrong.  I think the majority of our nation agrees that abortion after a certain time is wrong.

They are being misinformed. It’s been ruled on as a state issue. It reminds me of during one of the mayoral races in NYC and the death penalty came up. Ed Koch reminded the voters the mayor doesn’t decide that , the governor does. The issue went away.  

[jbycho 754]

3 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

From what I've seen, women think that abortion is going to be completely taken away from them as an option and that's what they are voting against.  I don't know how many want the option to abort at any point in the pregnancy.  Maybe I'm wrong.  I think the majority of our nation agrees that abortion after a certain time is wrong.

It's in the states hands. The fear mongering that any woman buys into from the democrats is simply that. She is being duped. It's not real. You can give sympathy for the stupid, but you can't simply allow them to rule the topic, or the nation. 

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1 hour ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

yep im not upset women want to kill their babies

stop being whores and you dont have to worry

instead they use the anecdotal 0.001% chance of something happening as their talking point, yet fail to ever admit 99% of all abortions are just cause of irresponsibility and they think abortion is a good form of birth control

 

I think you should run for office on this platform. Oh wait- Republicans do. 

[OldMaid 2,130]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

Archaic is all these unwanted pregnancies in 2024. Technology and education hav really made it an obsolete issue if women would make use of what is available here in 2024.  

I love it when men think they are the experts on this subject. Maybe since you have never had to take birth control in your entire life you shouldn’t try lecturing women about it.

[jbycho 754]

1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

I think you should run for office on this platform. Oh wait- Republicans do. 

And they got my vote today. 

[jbycho 754]

2 minutes ago, OldMaid said:

I love it when men think they are the experts on this subject. Maybe since you have never had to take birth control in your entire life you shouldn’t try lecturing women about it.

So, taking a rubber? No, I would not know. 

But, is your pleasure worth killing a kid over? 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,416]

Just now, OldMaid said:

I love it when men think they are the experts on this subject. Maybe since you have never had to take birth control in your entire life you shouldn’t try lecturing women about it.

Oh, it doesn’t work at an incredibly successful rate? 

[Hawkeye21 2,399]

Just now, jbycho said:

Doing things the right way is always applicable. Like I said, if you make a mistake and drive drunk and get caught, you pay for it. 

 

I would put good money on there being numerous people on this forum that have had some fun nights with some women back in their younger days.  Some nights where they might have slipped one past the goalie.  Told the girl that they had a strong pull out game or broke the condom.

You can't think of one time in your younger years that there could've been the possibility that you got a woman pregnant and would not been ready to be a father?  Or, did you wait to have sex until you were married and ready to start a family, oh responsible one?

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4 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

From what I've seen, women think that abortion is going to be completely taken away from them as an option and that's what they are voting against.  I don't know how many want the option to abort at any point in the pregnancy.  Maybe I'm wrong.  I think the majority of our nation agrees that abortion after a certain time is wrong.

When is it the right time to murder? No time.  

Revelation 16:9.  And men were scorched with great heat and blasphemed the name of God, which has power over these plagues, and they repented not to give Him Glory.   Indeed Amen Thanks 

[Hawkeye21 2,399]

3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

They are being misinformed. It’s been ruled on as a state issue. It reminds me of during one of the mayoral races in NYC and the death penalty came up. Ed Koch reminded the voters the mayor doesn’t decide that , the governor does. The issue went away.  

I agree and that's why I voted for Trump.  I tried to explain that to my wife but she is also misinformed and wouldn't believe me.  Most voters are very misinformed.

[OldMaid 2,130]

 

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Oh, it doesn’t work at an incredibly successful rate? 

Oh, you’re assuming the point? Why am I not surprised. The fact that you don’t know where this conversation is heading just proves my point.