Discussion of Concerns for Trump Presidency

[Cdub100 3,916]

1 minute ago, Death said:

Tell that to the states that have passed laws restricting access to IVF.

Which states have restricted access to IVF? 

[Death 302]

Just now, Cdub100 said:

This is exactly what I mean. These people have poisoned minds. They live in a world of lies and I'm not sure we can bring them back.

Says the guy who believes the Holocaust didn't happen.

How anyone can come to that belief despite the mass graves and millions upon millions of eyewitness accounts and pieces of evidence is beyond comprehension.

[Cdub100 3,916]

2 minutes ago, Death said:

Says the guy who believes the Holocaust didn't happen.

How anyone can come to that belief despite the mass graves and millions upon millions of eyewitness accounts and pieces of evidence is beyond comprehension.

Which states restrict access to IVF?

[squistion 2,211]

Just now, Death said:

Says the guy who believes the Holocaust didn't happen.

How anyone can come to that belief despite the mass graves and millions upon millions of eyewitness accounts and pieces of evidence is beyond comprehension.

You can't make this stuff up. 

[nobody 2,686]

2 minutes ago, squistion said:

You can't make this stuff up. 

He seems to be doing a good job of making stuff up in regards to IVF.

Perhaps, rusty will surprise us after he's done googling IVF restrictions by state.

[The Real timschochet 6,787]

7 minutes ago, Death said:

Says the guy who believes the Holocaust didn't happen.

How anyone can come to that belief despite the mass graves and millions upon millions of eyewitness accounts and pieces of evidence is beyond comprehension.

Yeah I mostly feel sorry for @Cdub100. I suspect he’s not a bad dude but his mind has been twisted by a hatred for all things Jewish. 

[Death 302]

5 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

Which states restrict access to IVF?

Alabama, Louisiana, Texas, Missouri and Arizona.

[Death 302]

Just now, The Real timschochet said:

Yeah I mostly feel sorry for @Cdub100. I suspect he’s not a bad dude but his mind has been twisted by a hatred for all things Jewish. 

Elementary-school students know about the Holocaust.

To deny that it happened is like looking up at the moon and denying there is a moon. 

It really is the most ignorant thing I've ever seen anywhere.

[BrahmaBulls 768]

14 minutes ago, Death said:

Tell that to the states that have passed laws restricting access to IVF.

What states do not allow IVF?

[BrahmaBulls 768]

3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Yeah I mostly feel sorry for @Cdub100. I suspect he’s not a bad dude but his mind has been twisted by a hatred for all things Jewish. 

Maybe it's just you

[Engorgeous George 2,331]

14 hours ago, Death said:

Trumpo wants to do away with Senate confirmation process.

Here we go!

https://www.vox.com/politics/384356/trump-recess-appointments-explained-senate-confirmation-thune-scott-cornyn-cabinet

Maybe the Senate ought to stay in session. 

 

Still, the positions are all currently filled, there is no vacancy into which to appoint someone and presidents elect have no official power to make appointments. This is not an issue until inauguration.  At inauguration there will be a potential vacancies andrepublican controlled senate so his appointments can go through basically that day if the new leadership prioritizes this.  Long and short, the article does not appreciate the entire process.

[Death 302]

1 minute ago, BrahmaBulls said:

What states do not allow IVF?

I said restrict access, not ban.

Reading comprehension - CATCH IT!

[BrahmaBulls 768]

Just now, Death said:

I said restrict access, not ban.

Reading comprehension - CATCH IT!

Hey jacka$$, I started this by saying everyone has the right to reproduce and you came back with your restrictions nonsense.  Reading comprehension - CATCH IT!

[nobody 2,686]

4 minutes ago, Death said:

Elementary-school students know about the Holocaust.

To deny that it happened is like looking up at the moon and denying there is a moon. 

It really is the most ignorant thing I've ever seen anywhere.

Flat earthers?

Whole life insurance policies?

There's a guy around here who thought football helmets are made of metal.

[Death 302]

Just now, BrahmaBulls said:

Hey jacka$$, I started this by saying everyone has the right to reproduce and you came back with your restrictions nonsense.  Reading comprehension - CATCH IT!

BrahmaBulls: Everyone has the right to reproduce.

Death: Tell that to the states that restrict IVF.

BrahmaBulls: What states don't allow IVF?

Death: I said restrict, not ban.

Your "everyone has the right to reproduce" doesn't even make sense in the first place, seeing as we're talking about abortion rights. This is not a discussion over whether people have the right to fock and make babies. Everyone knows they have the right to fock and make babies.

Death rests his case.

 

[Cdub100 3,916]

9 minutes ago, Death said:

Alabama, Louisiana, Texas, Missouri and Arizona.

100% false.

It's amazing how easily you fall for something that is so easily searchable, which applies to many of the things you believe.

[BrahmaBulls 768]

Just now, Death said:

BrahmaBulls: Everyone has the right to reproduce.

Death: Tell that to the states that restrict IVF.

BrahmaBulls: What states don't allow IVF?

Death: I said restrict, not ban.

Your "everyone has the right to reproduce" doesn't even make sense in the first place, seeing as we're talking about abortion rights. This is not a discussion over whether people have the right to fock and make babies. Everyone knows they have the right to fock and make babies.

Death rests his case.

 

Hey dumb a$$, we weren't talking about abortion rights.  You used the phrase Reproductive Rights.  I said everyone has the right to reproduce.  Fact.   You countered changing your stance to restrictions.  I tried to get you back on track with your original nonsense and now you're just in some silly slap fight because you're a loser.  Have fun.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,459]

3 minutes ago, BrahmaBulls said:

Hey dumb a$$, we weren't talking about abortion rights.  You used the phrase Reproductive Rights.  I said everyone has the right to reproduce.  Fact.   You countered changing your stance to restrictions.  I tried to get you back on track with your original nonsense and now you're just in some silly slap fight because you're a loser.  Have fun.

Gigantic loser. His life sucks.  

[Death 302]

1 minute ago, BrahmaBulls said:

Hey dumb a$$, we weren't talking about abortion rights.  You used the phrase Reproductive Rights.  I said everyone has the right to reproduce.  Fact.   You countered changing your stance to restrictions.  I tried to get you back on track with your original nonsense and now you're just in some silly slap fight because you're a loser.  Have fun.

Aw, look at the cute, post-triggered name-calling.

You should muster what little you have of reading comprehension and read back through the thread, which will reveal a discussion about what issues are state and what are federal.

The term "Reproductive Rights" doesn't refer to the right to fock and make babies. It refers to a woman's choice NOT to reproduce should she get pregnant.

And even when you tried to make it a misguided discussion about the right to fock and make babies, I pointed out that certain states restrict that right through laws affecting IVF.

But it's been fun turning you into a conversational greasy spot. You've been soundly cornered and defeated in myriad ways.

Have a great afternoon!

 

[Engorgeous George 2,331]

3 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

Agreed on the way they entered but disagree strongly on their presence. It’s not hard at all to argue that their presence here is a good thing; I’ve made that argument many times and backed it up with studies and statistics. 

But putting that aside, let me make a simpler argument which is this: any mass attempt to remove these people in large numbers will, at this point, be far more of a detriment to our society than a benefit. In fact it’s hard to find any benefit at all. 

You have backed it up with studies, 12 year old surveys of literature where the surveyor cites, among other articles, their own past articles.  Hardly rigorous studies.  As for your position that they are a net benefit to the country when they don't pay income taxes, if that were so would we all not be a net benefit even if we did not pay income taxes since we would still be paying sales taxes and gas taxes.  No, they are a detriment, a drain.  Their costs are hidden from most evaluations as they are impossible to quantify in a complex economic and political system.  What, for instance, is the cost of school overcrowding on the educational attainment of our children?  When our children don't attain we lose a generation of productivity, how is that factored in? What is the cost of insurance and emergency services for the uninsured?  What is the cost for a murder, or a rape, how is that amortized?   What about the inefficiency of having government at all levels have to produce multiple language copies of forms and to provide interpreters? What is the cost of the reintroduction of infectious deseases previously irradicated here?

 

I am for controlled, legal immigration.  I am for it being proportional to and representative of the world population.  Some from all countries but not an overwhelming and disproportionate amount fom any.  I am for a liberal guest worker program where employers have some responsibility for tracking their workers and returning them to their countries of origin when the job expires.  I do want birth right citizenship to not be extended to guest workers or to any on a visa who have overstayed their visas to give birth.  I don't want there to be anchor babies.  The baby may be a citizen and is welcom in on their 18th birthday individually, but the parents are not.  I am willing to fast track applications to foriegn students in the sciences if they have jobs lines up after graduation and they have committed no crimes while attending universities here.  I would do away with automatic asylum seeking.  Congress has abused the language there to keep the problem going saying or arguing that poverty is oppression.  In times of war, or major natural disasters congress can then make the case at that time for asylum for those specific folks, if they can make the case.  

[Engorgeous George 2,331]

24 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Yeah I mostly feel sorry for @Cdub100. I suspect he’s not a bad dude but his mind has been twisted by a hatred for all things Jewish. 

Maybe start him on the road to recovery by linking him to the top 100 jewish actesses and models page.  He can learn to like that and then maybe move forward, say to the top 25 jewish commics, and then to the top 25 writers, followed by directors.  He may grow.  The one thing he cant be linked to is the top jewish NBA players of the 21st century as the list is basically empty..

[Engorgeous George 2,331]

Here, I'll start.

The 150 Most Beautiful Jewish Actresses in Hollywood

[Strike 5,562]

1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

I understand that they’re able to do it as they’ve been doing it for decades on an individual basis. But mass deportations are a whole different animal. Do you really not understand that? 

I've told you before that the process will be much more involved that simply mass deporting people.   You always revert back to the same tired arguments.

[Cdub100 3,916]

6 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said:

Maybe start him on the road to recovery by linking him to the top 100 jewish actesses and models page.  He can learn to like that and then maybe move forward, say to the top 25 jewish commics, and then to the top 25 writers, followed by directors.  He may grow.  The one thing he cant be linked to is the top jewish NBA players of the 21st century as the list is basically empty..

This is a great idea. Would it be possible to start with the president's cabinet, followed by Media CEO and bankers?

[nobody 2,686]

16 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said:

You have backed it up with studies, 12 year old surveys of literature where the surveyor cites, among other articles, their own past articles.  hardly rigorous studies.  As for your position that they are a net benefit to the countyry when they don't pay income taxes, if that were so would we all not be a net benefit even if we did not pay income taxes since we would still be paying sales taxes and gas taxes.  No, they are a detriment, a drain.  Their costs are hidden from most evaluations as they are impossible to quantify in a complex economic and political system.  What, for instance, is the cost of school overcrowding on the educational attainment of our children?  What is the cost ofinsurance and emergency services for the uninsured?  What is the cost for a murder, or a rape, how is that amortized?   What about the inefficiency of having government at all levels have to produce multiple language copies of forms and to provide interpreters? What is the cost of the reintroduction of infectious deseases previously irradicated here?

 

I am for controlled, legal immigration.  I am for it being proportional to and representative of the world population.  Some from all countries but not an overwhelming and disproportionate amount fom any.  I am for a liberal guest worker program where employers have some responsibility for tracking their workers and returning theem to their countries of origin when the job expires.  I do want birth right citizenship to not be extended to guest workers or to any on a visa who have overstayed their visas to give birth.  I don't want there to be anchor babies.  The baby may be a citizen and is welcom in on their 18th birthday individually, but the parents are not.  I am willing to fast rack applications to foriegn studentsin the sciences if they have jobs lines up after graduation and they have committed no crimes while attending universities here.  I would do away with automatic asylum seeking.  Congress ahs abused the language there to keep the problem going saying or arguing that poverty is oppression.  In times of war, or major natural disasters congress can then make the case at that time for asylum for those specific folks, if they can make the case.  

You post good

[Fnord 2,280]

8 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said:

Here, I'll start.

The 150 Most Beautiful Jewish Actresses in Hollywood

I have some serious issues with this list, and none of them have anything to do with the faith of those pictured. Who the hell thinks Dakota Johnson or Kristen Stewart is more beautiful than Margot Robbie?

[nobody 2,686]

18 minutes ago, Death said:

Aw, look at the cute, post-triggered name-calling.

You should muster what little you have of reading comprehension and read back through the thread, which will reveal a discussion about what issues are state and what are federal.

The term "Reproductive Rights" doesn't refer to the right to fock and make babies. It refers to a woman's choice NOT to reproduce should she get pregnant.

And even when you tried to make it a misguided discussion about the right to fock and make babies, I pointed out that certain states restrict that right through laws affecting IVF.

But it's been fun turning you into a conversational greasy spot. You've been soundly cornered and defeated in myriad ways.

Have a great afternoon!

 

Yeah, you guys haven't caught on to The Party's favorite tactic of changing language to spin a narrative.  It's not abortion anymore.  It's reproductive rights now.

See if you take away the reproductive rights, you are essentially forcing women to have sex and birth babies.  If you take away abortion, there's a shift of accountability for getting pregnant in their that The Party can't abide.

[BrahmaBulls 768]

23 minutes ago, Death said:

Aw, look at the cute, post-triggered name-calling.

You should muster what little you have of reading comprehension and read back through the thread, which will reveal a discussion about what issues are state and what are federal.

The term "Reproductive Rights" doesn't refer to the right to fock and make babies. It refers to a woman's choice NOT to reproduce should she get pregnant.

And even when you tried to make it a misguided discussion about the right to fock and make babies, I pointed out that certain states restrict that right through laws affecting IVF.

But it's been fun turning you into a conversational greasy spot. You've been soundly cornered and defeated in myriad ways.

Have a great afternoon!

 

Don't use terms that embellish what it really means.  Reason 8000 the libs got their a$$es kicked last week.   It's not my fault you can't stay on topic.

[nobody 2,686]

3 minutes ago, Fnord said:

I have some serious issues with this list, and none of them have anything to do with the faith of those pictured. Who the hell thinks Dakota Johnson or Kristen Stewart is more beautiful than Margot Robbie?

Preach.  Margot Robbie should be top 3 at least.  I'd have Gadot first and Robbie second.  Kate Beckinsale should be top 10.  

[Sean Mooney 1,984]

15 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said:

Here, I'll start.

The 150 Most Beautiful Jewish Actresses in Hollywood

Scarlett Johansson is too low on that list.

So are Charlize Theron and Mila Kunis

[Fnord 2,280]

3 minutes ago, nobody said:

Preach.  Margot Robbie should be top 3 at least.  I'd have Gadot first and Robbie second.  Kate Beckinsale should be top 10.  

Gadot is gorgeous, but she's got that exotic thing going where sometimes she just looks kinda weird. Robbie might be the hottest woman on the planet, easy pick for #1. Alicia Vikander might be #2 for me.

[nobody 2,686]

I guess we're talking everyone in their prime, right?  I'd agree prime Johansson is underrepresented on the list.  So is prime jolie and prime Megan Fox.

Maybe there is a longevity component to consider.

[Sean Mooney 1,984]

1 minute ago, nobody said:

I guess we're talking everyone in their prime, right?  I'd agree prime Johansson is underrepresented on the list.  So is prime jolie and prime Megan Fox.

Maybe there is a longevity component to consider.

I'd still think Johansson today is underrepresented on that list. 

Gal Gadot shouldn't be #1 if for nothing but putting that god awful cover of "Imagine" into the world during COVID times

[Fnord 2,280]

1 minute ago, nobody said:

I guess we're talking everyone in their prime, right?  I'd agree prime Johansson is underrepresented on the list.  So is prime jolie and prime Megan Fox.

Maybe there is a longevity component to consider.

Must be cuz Shirley MacLaine is on the list. How did I not know Warren Beatty is her brother?

[nobody 2,686]

Jessica Alba at 98 and Jennifer love hewitt at 107 are the most underrated in my opinion.  I'd have Alba top 10 pretty easily and Hewitt at least top 20.  

Then of course, let's derail this whole thing... Check out 140. 

[Fnord 2,280]

1 minute ago, nobody said:

Jessica Alba at 98 and Jennifer love hewitt at 107 are the most underrated in my opinion.  I'd have Alba top 10 pretty easily and Hewitt at least top 20.  

Then of course, let's derail this whole thing... Check out 140. 

Jesus. EG's list is about to make me anti-semitic. Or at least anti- the asexual rube that assembled this list.

[Sean Mooney 1,984]

7 minutes ago, nobody said:

Jessica Alba at 98 and Jennifer love hewitt at 107 are the most underrated in my opinion.  I'd have Alba top 10 pretty easily and Hewitt at least top 20.  

Then of course, let's derail this whole thing... Check out 140. 

I was fully expecting it to be Joy Behar or something. And yes Alba and Hewitt are criminally low

 

Looking further into that list- Karen Gillan at 148? Mandy Moore at 143? Sarah Wayne Callies at 141? Heather Graham at 125? I'd fight the maker of this list over that. Even today- she was in a movie called Suitable Flesh last year which is a horror movie based on an H.P. Lovecraft story. She gets topless in it and still looks great even at like 53. Also, I mean if we are talking all time- she was Rollergirl...

 

[TimHauck 2,887]

25 minutes ago, nobody said:

Jessica Alba at 98 and Jennifer love hewitt at 107 are the most underrated in my opinion.  I'd have Alba top 10 pretty easily and Hewitt at least top 20.  

Then of course, let's derail this whole thing... Check out 140. 

Melissa McCarty is #73 lol

[The Real timschochet 6,787]

1 hour ago, Engorgeous George said:

Maybe start him on the road to recovery by linking him to the top 100 jewish actesses and models page.  He can learn to like that and then maybe move forward, say to the top 25 jewish commics, and then to the top 25 writers, followed by directors.  He may grow.  The one thing he cant be linked to is the top jewish NBA players of the 21st century as the list is basically empty..

What? Dolph Schayes, hall of famer. 
 

(I would also mention two all time coaches, Red Auerbach and Larry Brown, but I won’t because they’re jerks both of them.) 

[The Real timschochet 6,787]

1 hour ago, Cdub100 said:

This is a great idea. Would it be possible to start with the president's cabinet, followed by Media CEO and bankers?

None of those are going to be anywhere near as hot as the actresses. Well, maybe to you.