OG Maga vs Maga tech bros

[Hardcore troubadour 15,429]

14 minutes ago, The Phantom's Phantom said:

According to the Cato institute they are a net benefit to the economy.

https://www.cato.org/white-paper/fiscal-impact-immigration-united-states

Study ran through 2017 and addressed immigration , not mass migration and illegals. Plus CATO.

[Maximum Overkill 1,988]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

Study ran through 2017 and addressed immigration , not mass migration and illegals. Plus CATO.

@The Phantom's Phantom is clearly a liar.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,429]

11 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

@The Phantom's Phantom is clearly a liar.

He rarely gets it right. 

[Death 302]

Musk tells MAGAturd to face-fock himself.

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/f-k-yourself-elon-musks-reply-to-maga-supporters-as-h-1b-visa-debate-intensifies-7351957

Musk calls MAGAturds "contemptible fools."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/musk-calls-maga-supporters-contemptible-131415717.html

[IGotWorms 4,058]

36 minutes ago, Death said:

 

Musk calls MAGAturds "contemptible fools."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/musk-calls-maga-supporters-contemptible-131415717.html

Finally something I agree with Musk on.

But forgive me if I’m not going to trust a billionaire piece of sh1t to do the right thing for the American working class

[The Phantom's Phantom 254]

Trump comes out in support of H1B visas

Looks like president musk is running the show.

Sorry white people, you're being replaced.

[IGotWorms 4,058]

4 minutes ago, The Phantom's Phantom said:

Trump comes out in support of H1B visas

Looks like president musk is running the show.

Sorry white people, you're being replaced.

You’d think we’d want to educate and train our own people better so they could have these jobs. But you’d have to pay them market rates and couldn’t hold their visa status over their heads.

Man these billionaires are real pieces of sh1t totally selling Americans out before they’re even in office. Can’t say I’m surprised though 

[The Phantom's Phantom 254]

Just now, IGotWorms said:

You’d think we’d want to educate and train our own people better so they could have these jobs. But you’d have to pay them market rates and couldn’t hold their visa status over their heads.

Man these billionaires are real pieces of sh1t totally selling Americans out before they’re even in office. Can’t say I’m surprised though 

It's almost like we said this was going to happen.

The oligarchy has taken over the US.

I wonder how quickly the magas will realize they got duped.

[IGotWorms 4,058]

1 minute ago, The Phantom's Phantom said:

It's almost like we said this was going to happen.

The oligarchy has taken over the US.

I wonder how quickly the magas will realize they got duped.

Does seem like Trump and Musk are overestimating MAGA gullibility but we’ll see. I think their base really does expect pro American worker policies and won’t accept this garbage, but they have sure been willing to disregard a lot in the past

[MDC 7,425]

13 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Does seem like Trump and Musk are overestimating MAGA gullibility but we’ll see. 

Based on the GC I’m not sure that’s possible. The anti-elite MAGAs spent all morning cucking for Musk and Vivek.  

[The Phantom's Phantom 254]

Steve Bannon on Elon Musk: 

“This guy lives on government contracts and taxpayer subsidies. You’re not even an American. All you are is a globalist. You would take a check from Adolph Hitler.”

“YOU’RE NOT EVEN AN AMERICAN”

[The Phantom's Phantom 254]

America first?  You bought that?

Nope.  America first only after we bring in foreigners because Americans are too lazy and r-word

[Hardcore troubadour 15,429]

1 minute ago, The Phantom's Phantom said:

America first?  You bought that?

Nope.  America first only after we bring in foreigners because Americans are too lazy and r-word

You’re lazy. You’re in tech. Maybe they’re right? 

[The Phantom's Phantom 254]

17 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

You’re lazy. You’re in tech. Maybe they’re right? 

You're such a Rube.  The reason Vivek is calling Americans lazy is an excuse; it's better for them to hire foreigners.  They can pay them less and work them harder because they can't easily leave.

 

[Maximum Overkill 1,988]

2 minutes ago, The Phantom's Phantom said:

You're such a Rube.  The reason Vivek is calling Americans lazy is an excuse; it's better for them to hire foreigners.  They can pay them less and work them harder because they can't easily leave.

 

Can you shut up for a few minutes, football is on. 

[Death 302]

1 hour ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Can you shut up for a few minutes, football is on. 

So go watch it instead posting stupid chit and following Phantom around like a love-sick puppy dog.

[Frozenbeernuts 2,264]

8 hours ago, MDC said:

Usually the incoming POTUS waits until he’s taken office before revealing his hypocrisy and making fools of all his supporters.  

This is actually true. Trump didn't wait any time at all.

Argument "We want H1b1 for only super skilled jobs"

Pro Americans "No. Why would we support giving our jobs way to non Americans."

Trump "Hey I use it for my cooks and grass clippers"

[TimHauck 2,870]

Interesting thread with data 

https://twitter.com/RobertMSterling/status/1873174358535110953

 

 

[MDC 7,425]

1 hour ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

This is actually true. Trump didn't wait any time at all.

Argument "We want H1b1 for only super skilled jobs"

Pro Americans "No. Why would we support giving our jobs way to non Americans."

Trump "Hey I use it for my cooks and grass clippers"

Those cook and grass clipper jobs would pay a better wage is dirtbag business owners didn’t undercut US labor. Any job can be filled by an American worker if you pay the right rate. 

[Cdub100 3,907]

It's going to be interesting to see what happens here. 

[Frozenbeernuts 2,264]

15 minutes ago, MDC said:

Those cook and grass clipper jobs would pay a better wage is dirtbag business owners didn’t undercut US labor. Any job can be filled by an American worker if you pay the right rate. 

Agreed. Inflation has made American workers need a higher wage compared to illegals.

[MDC 7,425]

26 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

Agreed. Inflation has made American workers need a higher wage compared to illegals.

Yes inflation only happens in the US.  

[thegeneral 3,209]

Elon Musk sounding like Hillary calling the racisty neckbeard section of MAGA’s “Contemptible Fools”

[The Phantom's Phantom 254]

8 hours ago, TimHauck said:

Interesting thread with data 

https://twitter.com/RobertMSterling/status/1873174358535110953

 

 

Supports what I've been saying, thanks.

[The Phantom's Phantom 254]

7 hours ago, Cdub100 said:

It's going to be interesting to see what happens here. 

Would be interested to see what side you fall on given you are both of the OG hardcore racist America first magas but you're also tech bro adjacent with your crypto investing.

[The Phantom's Phantom 254]

How it started:

"As we speak, we’re finalizing H1-B regulations so that no American worker is replaced ever again."

https://m.economictimes.com/nri/visa-and-immigration/trump-bans-h-1b-visa-workers-on-federal-govt-contracts-fires-tva-chair-over-outsourcing-of-jobs/videoshow/77341750.cms

How it's going:

“I have many H-1B visas on my properties. I’ve been a believer in H-1B. I have used it many times. It’s a great program,” added Trump

https://nypost.com/2024/12/28/us-news/donald-trump-backs-h-1b-visa-program-supported-by-elon-musk/

 

[jonmx 2,429]

30 minutes ago, The Phantom's Phantom said:

How it started:

"As we speak, we’re finalizing H1-B regulations so that no American worker is replaced ever again."

https://m.economictimes.com/nri/visa-and-immigration/trump-bans-h-1b-visa-workers-on-federal-govt-contracts-fires-tva-chair-over-outsourcing-of-jobs/videoshow/77341750.cms

How it's going:

“I have many H-1B visas on my properties. I’ve been a believer in H-1B. I have used it many times. It’s a great program,” added Trump

https://nypost.com/2024/12/28/us-news/donald-trump-backs-h-1b-visa-program-supported-by-elon-musk/

 

 

Trump has greatly matured and has stopped taking the hardline and is now more supportive of productive and legal immigration.  Trump is setting up to be Reagan II, but instead of taking down the Soviet Union is going to take down the deep state, which is my honest opinion was the bigger threat to our freedom than the Soviets ever were. 

[The Phantom's Phantom 254]

6 minutes ago, jonmx said:

 

Trump has greatly matured and has stopped taking the hardline and is now more supportive of productive and legal immigration.  Trump is setting up to be Reagan II, but instead of taking down the Soviet Union is going to take down the deep state, which is my honest opinion was the bigger threat to our freedom than the Soviets ever were. 

Keep bootlicking for Trump and President Musk.

[seafoam1 3,023]

20 hours ago, The Phantom's Phantom said:

President musk posting that anyone who disagrees with him on Visas should fock themselves in the face.  Wonder if that includes Donald.

What happened to creepy joe? He's no longer your president?

[Fireballer 2,642]

No qualified Americans?  At least we’re concentrating on educational things that will close the gap like CRT, DEI, restorative justice, and keeping secrets from parents.  The pendulum should swing in our favor at any moment.

[The Phantom's Phantom 254]

3 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

No qualified Americans?  At least we’re concentrating on educational things that will close the gap like CRT, DEI, restorative justice, and keeping secrets from parents.  The pendulum should swing in our favor at any moment.

You think if we stop teaching CRT and not allowing trans kids privacy that we will have more stem skilled adults?

[The Phantom's Phantom 254]

You mean to tell me the guy that imports all his America first merch from China that you guys buy up is willing to sell out the American worker? 

[Fireballer 2,642]

8 minutes ago, The Phantom's Phantom said:

You think if we stop teaching CRT and not allowing trans kids privacy that we will have more stem skilled adults?

Cultural change my friend.  Your generalization is a cute diversion.  Keep it up.  

[seafoam1 3,023]

16 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

No qualified Americans?  At least we’re concentrating on educational things that will close the gap like CRT, DEI, restorative justice, and keeping secrets from parents.  The pendulum should swing in our favor at any moment.

The sad truth of liberal America. They reject basic education and then say "Americans", instead of "liberal Americans", are not educated and that we need illegals to do the jobs. 

We need a controlled immigration policy of swapping these liberals for educated people from around the world who want to be here. We can give them 5 of ours for every one of theirs but no intelligent, decent, world leader would do that. 

[The Phantom's Phantom 254]

2016 geek club: we can't let these silicon valley oligarchs destroy the American worker

2024 geek club: well maybe these silicon valley tech bros know what they're talking about

 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,101]

1 minute ago, The Phantom's Phantom said:

2016 geek club: we can't let these silicon valley oligarchs destroy the American worker

2024 geek club: well maybe these silicon valley tech bros know what they're talking about

Tell me you made something up without telling me you made something up. 

Your next alias should be named StrawMan.

[The Phantom's Phantom 254]

Geek club: we need to deport 15m illegals who steal jobs from.hard working Americans.

Also geek club: we need to import more foreign workers because Americans are lazy

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,101]

Just now, The Phantom's Phantom said:

Geek club: we need to deport 15m illegals who steal jobs from.hard working Americans.

Also geek club: we need to import more foreign workers because Americans are lazy

Tell me you made something up without telling me you made something up.  

Your next alias should be named StrawMan.

[The Phantom's Phantom 254]

26 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Tell me you made something up without telling me you made something up.  

Your next alias should be named StrawMan.

How do you feel about musk pushing for more H1B visas?

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,101]

14 minutes ago, The Phantom's Phantom said:

How do you feel about musk pushing for more H1B visas?

I don't partake in made up controversies.

This is going to be yours and your pals strategy for the next 4 years.  Make stuff like this up and act like's it's a real problem when in reality no one cares.  And then just keep pushing the fake controversy to make it seem like the administration has a real problem.  Y'know, kind of like last time.