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Was Frontier Airlines racist to Khabib?

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I'm on a Frontier flight from Detroit to Phoenix as I type. 2/3 the passengers are middle eastern or other POC :dunno:

 

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9 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

I'm on a Frontier flight from Detroit to Phoenix as I type. 2/3 the passengers are middle eastern or other POC :dunno:

 

Are they in the exit rows?

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:lol:

wild that he’s flying in coach and then booking a seat in that aisle.

this has nothing to do with race . Clearly it was a little language issue and by the time he understood the question it was about an airline worker on a power trip. It happens everyday. Doesn’t matter what race you are 

Khabib was very calm but I doubt he liked taking orders from a woman 

 

racist gtfo with that manufactured 💩

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2 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Are they in the exit rows?

He's still trying to find a way to make this racist. 😆

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2 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Are they in the exit rows?

Can't tell. I do see a majority white looking backs of heads, but I can't see them all

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5 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

:lol:

wild that he’s flying in coach and then booking a seat in that aisle.

this has nothing to do with race . Clearly it was a little language issue and by the time he understood the question it was about an airline worker on a power trip. It happens everyday. Doesn’t matter what race you are 

Khabib was very calm but I doubt he liked taking orders from a woman 

 

racist gtfo with that manufactured 💩

Would have to see the initial convo when they did the exit row check.  If he’s flying coach now stands to reason he’s done it before and thus would be familiar with the exit row procedures.  His English seems pretty fine 

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5 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Would have to see the initial convo when they did the exit row check

So you admit to jumping to conclusions and you are race baiting. 

Typical liberal. :wall:

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27 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

I'm on a Frontier flight from Detroit to Phoenix as I type. 2/3 the passengers are middle eastern or other POC :dunno:

 

Your Will is all up to date I hope

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30 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

I'm on a Frontier flight from Detroit to Phoenix as I type. 2/3 the passengers are middle eastern or other POC :dunno:

 

Send us your @Venmo. Nobody should travel like that, especially a Geek. 

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Just now, avoiding injuries said:

Send us your @Venmo. Nobody should travel like that, especially a Geek. 

Send pics of your future widow so we can start a GC bidding war for who gets to take over your husbandly duties. 

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34 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

I'm on a Frontier flight from Detroit to Phoenix as I type. 2/3 the passengers are middle eastern or other POC :dunno:

 

Yell “Allahu Akbar” real loud and see if anyone joins in. Then you’ll know who to keep an eye on. 

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Tim Hack gonna hack…

There is zero evidence from that video that racism was involved in the decision to deplane him.

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20 minutes ago, Patented Phil said:

Tim Hack gonna hack…

There is zero evidence from that video that racism was involved in the decision to deplane him.

Really the only possible explanation that doesn’t involve racism is that he knew what they were asking and refused to assist for some reason, which I find hard to believe.

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6 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Really the only possible explanation that doesn’t involve racism is that he knew what they were asking and refused to assist for some reason, which I find hard to believe.

Or, they asked him and didn't get a comfort level that he was understanding enough or supportive of doing the job.  I travel frequently - sat in that row 2 or 3 times this year alone, and I can assure you they take this passenger responsibility very serious.

But go ahead and continue being an ignorant, race-baiting Richard - believing that they just hate Muslims.  It's what you do best. 

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8 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Really the only possible explanation that doesn’t involve racism is that he knew what they were asking and refused to assist for some reason, which I find hard to believe.

You are making it up. 

You have nothing. Race baiting. 

This is the type of person who accuses people for crimes because they are accused of it by dopes like himself. 

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2 minutes ago, Patented Phil said:

Or, they asked him and didn't get a comfort level that he was understanding enough or supportive of doing the job.  I travel frequently - sat in that row 2 or 3 times this year alone, and I can assure you they take this passenger responsibility very serious.

But go ahead and continue being an ignorant, race-baiting Richard - believing that they just hate Muslims.  It's what you do best. 

Based on the video, he was understanding what they were saying just fine.  I don’t think the flight attendant hates Muslims.  I just think they discriminated against him because he had an accent.

Khabib is exactly the type of guy that would be well suited to assist in an emergency…

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@TimHauck  Let me ask you a couple of questions, and TRY to think about this LOGICALLY.  IF the flight attendant was racist, I assume the presumption is that she didn't want anything to do with Khabib.   Do you think she's dealt with Russians or whatever ethnicity she thought he was before?  Do you think it's her SOP to discriminate against people of his ethnicity?  If so, how do you think she still has her job considering she must deal with people of that ethnicity regularly?  Lastly, she asked him to move seats.  How is that going to make her have to deal with him any less than she would have with him in an exit row? 

Look, the last thing I want to deal with if the plane goes down and is on fire is a person in the exit row who the crew has deemed unsuitable.  Contrary to popular belief, flight attendants do a lot more than just serve coffee.  They are trained to create the safest environment in the cabin in the event of an emergency.  A commercial airplane cabin is the LAST place we should be worrying about being WOKE. 

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1 hour ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

why the fock is he flying frontier

 

Spirit is like "Air France" compared to Frontier.

Missed a flight and had to take Frontier once..actually was hoping they would escort me off.

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8 minutes ago, Strike said:

@TimHauck  Let me ask you a couple of questions, and TRY to think about this LOGICALLY.  IF the flight attendant was racist, I assume the presumption is that she didn't want anything to do with Khabib.   Do you think she's dealt with Russians or whatever ethnicity she thought he was before?  Do you think it's her SOP to discriminate against people of his ethnicity?  If so, how do you think she still has her job considering she must deal with people of that ethnicity regularly?  Lastly, she asked him to move seats.  How is that going to make her have to deal with him any less than she would have with him in an exit row? 

Look, the last thing I want to deal with if the plane goes down and is on fire is a person in the exit row who the crew has deemed unsuitable.  Contrary to popular belief, flight attendants do a lot more than just serve coffee.  They are trained to create the safest environment in the cabin in the event of an emergency.  A commercial airplane cabin is the LAST place we should be worrying about being WOKE. 

No I don’t think she “didn’t want anything to do with him.”  I just think she might have discriminated against him because he has an accent.  Obviously I’m sure she deals with many foreigners and maybe her other experiences are why she has preconceived notions about their understanding of the English language.  But Khabib is not a normal foreigner and I would certainly want him assisting in an emergency (although I’m guessing they didn’t know who he was)

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8 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

so racist
 

FAFO

Also Frontier, interesting.  Maybe they have some dumb policy where if the person doesn’t reply “yes” right away then they move them.  I fly American often and it’s pretty common for people to just nod their head at first and the flight attendant will say “I need a verbal yes” and then no issues.  Frontier is horrible in most other aspects so maybe they are horrible with this too.

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7 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

No I don’t think she “didn’t want anything to do with him.”  I just think she might have discriminated against him because he has an accent.  Obviously I’m sure she deals with many foreigners and maybe her other experiences are why she has preconceived notions about their understanding of the English language.  But Khabib is not a normal foreigner and I would certainly want him assisting in an emergency (although I’m guessing they didn’t know who he was)

What, you think an MMA fighter has some special powers or something?   Specifically, why would Khabib be better suited than, say, @jerryskids to assist in an emergency on an airplane?

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6 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Also Frontier, interesting.  Maybe they have some dumb policy where if the person doesn’t reply “yes” right away then they move them.  I fly American often and it’s pretty common for people to just nod their head at first and the flight attendant will say “I need a verbal yes” and then no issues.  Frontier is horrible in most other aspects so maybe they are horrible with this too.

Maybe they are.  But you're undermining your own argument here.  If they CONSISTENTLY remove people from the exit row if those people don't follow the book immediately and  100% then it has nothing to do with discrimination.  It has to do with their POLICIES that they BELIEVE create the safest flight.

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2 minutes ago, Strike said:

Maybe they are.  But you're undermining your own argument here.  If they CONSISTENTLY remove people from the exit row if those people don't follow the book immediately and  100% then it has nothing to do with discrimination.  It has to do with their POLICIES that they BELIEVE create the safest flight.

Frontier trying to create the safest flight is funny.  

2 incidents doesn’t really prove a pattern, I’d be curious if there were any similar videos of white folks.  Because you know there have been Gen Z dudes with headphones on or something not paying attention that didn’t answer right away.

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7 minutes ago, Strike said:

What, you think an MMA fighter has some special powers or something?   Specifically, why would Khabib be better suited than, say, @jerryskids to assist in an emergency on an airplane?

Because he’s strong and agile, dummy.  If there was turbulence that caused people to hurt themselves he could pick people up to get them off the plane

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1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

Because he’s strong and agile, dummy.  If there was turbulence that caused people to hurt themselves he could pick people up to get them off the plane

That's not what you're asked to do when you sit in an exit row.  And he's retired.  You have no clue what shape he's in.  He could look like Shaq for all we know.

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3 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Frontier trying to create the safest flight is funny.  

2 incidents doesn’t really prove a pattern, I’d be curious if there were any similar videos of white folks.  Because you know there have been Gen Z dudes with headphones on or something not paying attention that didn’t answer right away.

Yeah, you know, you're right.  I'm sure Frontier has NEVER booted a white person from an exit row.   You really need to be tested for autism dude.  You HAVE to be autistic with your thought processes and the hills you choose to die on.. 

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4 minutes ago, Strike said:

Yeah, you know, you're right.  I'm sure Frontier has NEVER booted a white person from an exit row.   You really need to be tested for autism dude.  You HAVE to be autistic with your thought processes and the hills you choose to die on.. 

Not saying it’s never happened, but we often see videos like these on social media, and if this was actually a policy of Frontier I’d think we’d have seen more videos of it happening.  I just did a quick search and the only other one I’m seeing is the one @HellToupee posted.  It seems the claim there is that the lady made a joke saying “I won’t help anyone I’m going to save myself.”  Which if true basically goes back to my earlier point about the only explanation for this that doesn’t involve racism is if Khabib refused

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12 minutes ago, Strike said:

That's not what you're asked to do when you sit in an exit row.  And he's retired.  You have no clue what shape he's in.  He could look like Shaq for all we know.

I’m gonna go out on a limb and say that Khabib is probably in better shape than @jerryskids (sorry Jerry) as well as about 95% of airline passengers.

You’re asked to help people deplane as well as possibly open the doors.  You may not be “asked” to carry people but I’m sure someone would do it if they were capable, someone needed help, and they weren’t completely selfish

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39 minutes ago, Strike said:

What, you think an MMA fighter has some special powers or something?   Specifically, why would Khabib be better suited than, say, @jerryskids to assist in an emergency on an airplane?

Cause, jerryskids is a puzzy.  

Deuteronomy 24:16.  The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers, every man shall be put to death for his own soul.   Indeed Amen Thanks 

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2 hours ago, TimHauck said:

Frontier trying to create the safest flight is funny.  

2 incidents doesn’t really prove a pattern, I’d be curious if there were any similar videos of white folks.  Because you know there have been Gen Z dudes with headphones on or something not paying attention that didn’t answer right away.

So you think the black flight attendant was being racist against the black passenger?

God you one insufferable idiot.

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Frontier issued its statement today:

“On Jan. 11, 2025, as flight 4401 from Las Vegas to San Francisco was preparing for departure, a flight attendant initiated the customary briefing for exit row passengers. Customer Khabib Nurmagomedov, who was seated in an exit row, was asked multiple times if he was willing and able to assist in the event of an emergency. According to the flight attendant, Mr. Nurmagomedov did not respond, despite repeated attempts, which placed him in non-compliance with FAA requirements. The flight attendant informed Mr. Nurmagomedov that he could be moved to a different upgraded seat or exit the plane.

“Videos circulating on social media platforms do not capture this interaction, and instead show a subsequent interaction after a gate agent entered the plane and reiterated the option to be reseated. As a result of the customer’s initial unresponsiveness and repeated declinations of a seat change, he was asked to deplane per airline and FAA policy. The decision to deplane the customer was in no way related to his ethnicity and we have refunded him and his traveling companions for their flights.”

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I love seeing these hot take videos that don't start until the very end to push a narrative. 

Reminds me of folks screaming about racist cops and then the police release the full body cam footage. 

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2 minutes ago, Patented Phil said:

Frontier issued its statement today:

“On Jan. 11, 2025, as flight 4401 from Las Vegas to San Francisco was preparing for departure, a flight attendant initiated the customary briefing for exit row passengers. Customer Khabib Nurmagomedov, who was seated in an exit row, was asked multiple times if he was willing and able to assist in the event of an emergency. According to the flight attendant, Mr. Nurmagomedov did not respond, despite repeated attempts, which placed him in non-compliance with FAA requirements. The flight attendant informed Mr. Nurmagomedov that he could be moved to a different upgraded seat or exit the plane.

“Videos circulating on social media platforms do not capture this interaction, and instead show a subsequent interaction after a gate agent entered the plane and reiterated the option to be reseated. As a result of the customer’s initial unresponsiveness and repeated declinations of a seat change, he was asked to deplane per airline and FAA policy. The decision to deplane the customer was in no way related to his ethnicity and we have refunded him and his traveling companions for their flights.”

I’m guessing Khabib,because of his culture , totally ignored her as a person of authority 

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