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How come none of you MAGAts have discussed Elon Musk giving a Nazi salute, twice, onstage?

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13 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

Yeah, you can find a lot of crap on the internet. You can find whatever you want to fit your narrative. I look at what happened in 2020. Liberals look for any reason to find violence in their lives. They believe whole heartedly in wanting socialism, and they blame white people ad adnausium across many topics. They are trying to white males at a disadvantage in the work place, in schools, etc.

White supremecy is old news BS now. There are as many black people that hate white people as white people sho hate black people. That is not white supremecy. That's simply what liberals call it. Conservatives don't call merit based living, white supremecy. 

My point is that Musk had been retweeting that person & others like him. Musk isn’t some random shtposter web crawling like it’s 1995. He’s created a whole AI platform & reconfigured the algorithm of one of the planet’s most powerful influence & information machines.

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On 1/21/2025 at 5:59 PM, gas said:

Only reason I can see is you’re either Nazis, or you’re at least cool with being in bed with Nazis.  

How come none of you libtards never talk about the country-wide destruction you caused in 2020? 

You are all pansies. 

"NAZIS!!!!!!!! :cry:"   :lol:

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"I will vote for anyone who is running against Trump or his team regardless of what their policies are."

The definition of boot licker. The democrat party took it straight in the ass when the DNC refused to give the nomination to Bernie. Bernie and the rest of the party bent over and took it with a smile on their face. Then they begged for more. Weirdos.

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11 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

My point is that Musk had been retweeting that person & others like him. Musk isn’t some random shtposter web crawling like it’s 1995. He’s created a whole AI platform & reconfigured the algorithm of one of the planet’s most powerful influence & information machines.

Now to google. 

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8 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

"I will vote for anyone who is running against Trump or his team regardless of what their policies are."

The definition of boot licker. The democrat party took it straight in the ass when the DNC refused to give the nomination to Bernie. Bernie and the rest of the party bent over and took it with a smile on their face. Then they begged for more. Weirdos.

People should vote for their best ideological fit, the general election is essentially an open primary. Vote for the Constitution Party if it suits you best. And there are some core values liberals & conservatives agree upon.

RFKjr used that very term to describe maga in 2024. Then he joined maga to his great power & profit.

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10 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

People should vote for their best ideological fit, the general election is essentially an open primary. Vote for the Constitution Party if it suits you best. And there are some core values liberals & conservatives agree upon.

RFKjr used that very term to describe maga in 2024. Then he joined maga to his great power & profit.

Is "maga" a political party now? Or a golf club or something? 

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3 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

That was RFKjr’s term, he specifically chose that.

I never heard him say it. Doesn't really matter though. 

I've only heard liberals use it as derogatory term for people who don't have a burning hatred for this country.. What it really is, is a political slogan.  

But it sure doesn fire up liberals. There is this mail carrier where I work who can't stop her ignorant self (everyone knows she is a miserable loud person, but that's neither here nor there), from ranting on Trump every other day. She last said something about being at a flea market and ACTUALLY saw someone wearing a MAGA hat. She ranted about that for 20 minutes. I don't know how these people get so freaking out of control in their daily lives over a political slogan. 

I don't put stickers on my car, but would I for any reason ever dare put a MAGA or Trump sticker on my car? Fock no. Bacause I know something bad would happen to it. 

Liberals put political bumper stickers on their cars all the time. Becaues they know no one will target them. 

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37 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

I never heard him say it. Doesn't really matter though. 

I've only heard liberals use it as derogatory term for people who don't have a burning hatred for this country.. What it really is, is a political slogan.  

But it sure doesn fire up liberals. There is this mail carrier where I work who can't stop her ignorant self (everyone knows she is a miserable loud person, but that's neither here nor there), from ranting on Trump every other day. She last said something about being at a flea market and ACTUALLY saw someone wearing a MAGA hat. She ranted about that for 20 minutes. I don't know how these people get so freaking out of control in their daily lives over a political slogan. 

I don't put stickers on my car, but would I for any reason ever dare put a MAGA or Trump sticker on my car? Fock no. Bacause I know something bad would happen to it. 

Liberals put political bumper stickers on their cars all the time. Becaues they know no one will target them. 

Just fyi this was RFKjr. To my mind he’s an opportunist, that’s all, & there are others in the administration like that.

I also don’t put signs in my yard, or have bumper stickers or wear tshirts. And the reason isn’t that I don’t want the hassle, it’s because I think it’s a bad idea to be dogmatic & identify with any movement. But I do believe in ideology. We could call it something else besides maga - America First, nationalism take your pick. But IMO it’s not Republican & it’s not conservatism, & I get that’s part of its appeal.

And I agree with you about the lady at the flea market. I know what you mean, I’ve felt that way my whole life.

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On 1/12/2026 at 5:03 PM, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Sorry, why exactly did you choose the name Voltaire as a handle? He’d be revolted.

I've long thought it was too much hubris on my part at the time. 

But one thing holds: unlike worthless white leftist sh*tbags, I fully appreciate Western civilization.

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2 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

I've long thought it was too much hubris on my part at the time. 

But one thing holds: unlike worthless white leftist sh*tbags, I fully appreciate Western civilization.

Voltaire was pure reason, a great man & he despised reactionaries.

I don’t think you do actually. Immigration is an inherent part of western civilization. It’s the east that has always rejected it.

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20 hours ago, Fnord said:

When you said you moved to the rubiest red place you could find I hadn't realized that meant you'd maintain utter ignorance of what's occurring. 

Astounding times we live in.

White leftoids are worthless cancer. The scum of the plant. The unwiped exit point in the lower middle of the buttocks. I was trying to avoid communist idiots who hate themselves, their country, kneel for the flag, celebrate terrorists, want criminals to go free, and tear down statues of Washington and Jefferson.

But, hey, it looks good on you.

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1 minute ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Voltaire was pure reason, a great man & he despised reactionaries.

I don’t think you do actually. Immigration is an inherent part of western civilization. It’s the east that has always rejected it.

So lame. You don't even know the times you live in. This isn't the 1800's. 

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21 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Voltaire was pure reason, a great man & he despised reactionaries.

I don’t think you do actually. Immigration is an inherent part of western civilization. It’s the east that has always rejected it.

I find it odd that someone would take a break from cheering on Hamas terrorists, drug smugglers, and communists, kneeling for the flag, tearing down Jefferson and Washington statues, explaining their pronouns, making indigenous land statements, assuming the county hasn't changed since 1920s Alabama, and lubing their butth0le for intersectional trannies to give me a lecture on Voltaire.

Maybe rather than bashing someone who clearly and unaplogetically deeply loves Western Civilization, you could assuage your white guilt by making a large donation to Patrisse Cullors instead.

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33 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

So lame. You don't even know the times you live in. This isn't the 1800's. 

So much bloviated nonsense 

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5 hours ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Voltaire was pure reason, a great man & he despised reactionaries.

I don’t think you do actually. Immigration is an inherent part of western civilization. It’s the east that has always rejected it.

You’re like a child. 

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11 hours ago, Voltaire said:

White leftoids are worthless cancer. The scum of the plant. The unwiped exit point in the lower middle of the buttocks. I was trying to avoid communist idiots who hate themselves, their country, kneel for the flag, celebrate terrorists, want criminals to go free, and tear down statues of Washington and Jefferson.

But, hey, it looks good on you.

 

11 hours ago, Voltaire said:

I find it odd that someone would take a break from cheering on Hamas terrorists, drug smugglers, and communists, kneeling for the flag, tearing down Jefferson and Washington statues, explaining their pronouns, making indigenous land statements, assuming the county hasn't changed since 1920s Alabama, and lubing their butth0le for intersectional trannies to give me a lecture on Voltaire.

Maybe rather than bashing someone who clearly and unaplogetically deeply loves Western Civilization, you could assuage your white guilt by making a large donation to Patrisse Cullors instead.

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Sheeeeeesh...

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11 hours ago, Voltaire said:

I find it odd that someone would take a break from cheering on Hamas terrorists, drug smugglers, and communists, kneeling for the flag, tearing down Jefferson and Washington statues, explaining their pronouns, making indigenous land statements, assuming the county hasn't changed since 1920s Alabama, and lubing their butth0le for intersectional trannies to give me a lecture on Voltaire.

Maybe rather than bashing someone who clearly and unaplogetically deeply loves Western Civilization, you could assuage your white guilt by making a large donation to Patrisse Cullors instead.

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I like how 2 of your bullets have to do with trannies.  You guys really think about trannies a lot.

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4 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

I like how 2 of your bullets have to do with trannies.  You guys really think about trannies a lot.

It's all they have.  The economy is cratering, costs are up, we're invading and bombing nations all over the globe, rampant corruption, we're being attacked by the Gestapo, but at least we solved the tranny problem.

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5 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

I like how 2 of your bullets have to do with trannies.  You guys really think about trannies a lot.

No one thought about them until the left started involving kids in their perversion.  Being one yourself should make that easy to recognize. 

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7 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

You’re like a child. 

I know who Voltaire was (nothing special in that, @Voltairemust also). For instance I know he said, “Anyone who can make you believe absurdities, can make you believe atrocities.”

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59 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

It's all they have.  The economy is cratering, costs are up, we're invading and bombing nations all over the globe, rampant corruption, we're being attacked by the Gestapo, but at least we solved the tranny problem.

Wat?

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13 hours ago, Voltaire said:

White leftoids are worthless cancer. The scum of the plant. The unwiped exit point in the lower middle of the buttocks. I was trying to avoid communist idiots who hate themselves, their country, kneel for the flag, celebrate terrorists, want criminals to go free, and tear down statues of Washington and Jefferson.

But, hey, it looks good on you.

Cool, but hey, isn't it the "leftoids" that are supposed to be turning down the rhetoric? 

I've always held you in pretty high esteem despite our obvious differences of opinion. It's sad to me that your true feelings are that I'm worthless cancer and scum. I've certainly never said that about you.

And you're the one supporting full-on fascism, at least if I use the same rules of identifying scum as you do.

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1 hour ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

I know who Voltaire was (nothing special in that, @Voltairemust also). For instance I know he said, “Anyone who can make you believe absurdities, can make you believe atrocities.”

TBF- the person you are conversing with thinks Voltaire is a person who plays for the University of Tennessee

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2 hours ago, TimHauck said:

I like how 2 of your bullets have to do with trannies.  You guys really think about trannies a lot.

You’ve noticed? 🌈 😂 

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1 hour ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

I know who Voltaire was (nothing special in that, @Voltairemust also). For instance I know he said, “Anyone who can make you believe absurdities, can make you believe atrocities.”

How apropos.

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2 hours ago, TimHauck said:

I like how 2 of your bullets have to do with trannies.  You guys really think about trannies a lot.

Sounds like the "tranny" word really triggers you libtards. 

Timhack is hurting again folks. 

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9 hours ago, Fnord said:

Cool, but hey, isn't it the "leftoids" that are supposed to be turning down the rhetoric? 

I've always held you in pretty high esteem despite our obvious differences of opinion. It's sad to me that your true feelings are that I'm worthless cancer and scum. I've certainly never said that about you.

And you're the one supporting full-on fascism, at least if I use the same rules of identifying scum as you do.

When I first noticed how badly things were unravelling was the kneeling for the flag nonsense and the utter dread/shock I felt over the popularity of that. Then the Summer of Floyd happened and that was the breaking point. Until then you could agree to disagree but when you see half the population turns out to be unAmerican shitbag asswipes, there's a rift that won't mend easily.

Reasonable people can disagree on foreign policy or tax rates or heath care or energy/environmental issues or any number of issues but insult the flag and/or the founding fathers and its time to wonder what the hell is wrong with these people and there's no conversation to be had anymore. Its time to totally give up on them and circle the wagons.

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9 hours ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

I know who Voltaire was (nothing special in that, @Voltairemust also). For instance I know he said, “Anyone who can make you believe absurdities, can make you believe atrocities.”

Voltaire, the French philosopher, had sex with his niece. 

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Didn’t @Voltaire live in China or something?  And has now complained multiple times about people kneeling during the National Anthem lol (which of course was recommended to Kaepernick by an Army Green Beret to still show respect for the flag rather than sitting)

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44 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Well @voltaire can answer that one too!

Some people are flawed. Most all the female relatives in my family are gorgeous and i have no attraction to any them whatsoever. The vast majority of us feel the same way, Apparently Voltaire not only didn't have this funcrtional off-switch but he also didn't seem to care much.

I'm not a big fan of going through historical figures and beating them up for such indiscretions. I fully understand why people respect Voltaire, and it's for many other reasons. Do it enough and you'll be able to sh*t on everyone other than Jesus.

Looking at it, it doesn't seem like then or now, the French ever cared that much about inappropriate relations. While I didn't live through the late 1700s France to comment, in today's France, the current president married his High School teacher who is 24 years older than he is, and that hasn't made a dent in his political career.

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15 hours ago, Voltaire said:

When I first noticed how badly things were unravelling was the kneeling for the flag nonsense and the utter dread/shock I felt over the popularity of that. Then the Summer of Floyd happened and that was the breaking point. Until then you could agree to disagree but when you see half the population turns out to be unAmerican shitbag asswipes, there's a rift that won't mend easily.

Reasonable people can disagree on foreign policy or tax rates or heath care or energy/environmental issues or any number of issues but insult the flag and/or the founding fathers and its time to wonder what the hell is wrong with these people and there's no conversation to be had anymore. Its time to totally give up on them and circle the wagons.

Insulting the flag may be distasteful but it's a guaranteed right that we have in this nation. Seems like people care more about a representative piece of cloth than they do about their fellow countrymen that march under the same banner.

What you're talking about is really just differences in perception. I am convinced that MAGA is an un-American movement full of shitbag ass-wipes, but that doesn’t mean I think everyone that voted for Trump is beyond reason or a bad person.

Respectfully, grow up.

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9 hours ago, Fnord said:

Insulting the flag may be distasteful but it's a guaranteed right that we have in this nation. Seems like people care more about a representative piece of cloth than they do about their fellow countrymen that march under the same banner.

What you're talking about is really just differences in perception. I am convinced that MAGA is an un-American movement full of shitbag ass-wipes, but that doesn’t mean I think everyone that voted for Trump is beyond reason or a bad person.

Respectfully, grow up.

Insulting the flag, while providing cover and making excuses for those that do is expected of all you baizuos. You hate your country, you hate the people who built it, you hate all it stands for. Even if you claim you don't, the words are empty becuause -as this post demonstrates- you'll still do your part like this post by standing shoulder to shoulder in solidarity with every single group that does. It's who you people are.

Hopefully the structural advantage the GOP has in the Senate, SCOTUS, and electoral college can keep the county afloat indefinitely, but I know full well politics is cyclical in nature, and the GOP won't hold serve forever. It's just a matter of time. People forget, others will want change, each election allows the Democrats a fresh opportunity to get 51% of the vote. Historical trends indicate the Dems will pick up House seats in the midterms, then we have another existential threat in 1028 but JD most likely, if not Rubio or DeSantis should be more formidable that the Team Satan candidate and from there the House seat distribution electoral college situation should provide a better margin for error.

 

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9 hours ago, Fnord said:

Insulting the flag may be distasteful but it's a guaranteed right that we have in this nation. Seems like people care more about a representative piece of cloth than they do about their fellow countrymen that march under the same banner.

What you're talking about is really just differences in perception. I am convinced that MAGA is an un-American movement full of shitbag ass-wipes, but that doesn’t mean I think everyone that voted for Trump is beyond reason or a bad person.

Respectfully, grow up.

An ignorant child telling an astute adult to grow up.

This is your typical liberal. Fdork is a dumbass. 

 

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13 hours ago, Voltaire said:

Insulting the flag, while providing cover and making excuses for those that do is expected of all you baizuos. You hate your country, you hate the people who built it, you hate all it stands for. Even if you claim you don't, the words are empty becuause -as this post demonstrates- you'll still do your part like this post by standing shoulder to shoulder in solidarity with every single group that does. It's who you people are.

I don't want to put words in your mouth, especially when those words have trended recently toward madly flinging around insipid claims like the above, so I'll try to word this carefully.

Your post, to me, shows that you don't really believe in FREEDOM, you believe in it on your terms, for your people. Bub, this ain't China. If you think liberalism is such a horrific cancer, perhaps you should have stayed in the authoritarian state you seemed so comfortable in, as opposed to cheering on the desecration of this nation while the guy you still enthusiastically support does his level best to duplicate the paradigm you fled from.

Your words will not get me to believe the entirety of Trump voters are stupid, bad people. But I am quickly reconsidering my evaluation of you being a stupid, bad person. And I don't say that lightly because, again, I had significant respect for you and your opinions until very recently.

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Every time at the end of nearly all concerts it's funny to see the band members give nazi salutes to the audiences. I saw a couple people walking down the street yesterday give a nazi salute to each other. Saw a bunch of times people hailing cabs in the city by giving a nazi salute and the yellow cars immediately pulled over for them. Once I was at a ballgame and these people were giving nazi salutes to the vendors going up and down the stairs. 

This is crazy all these nazi salutes that happen every day across the US. 

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